Utah Jazz handle LeBron-less Cavaliers

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  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    Dec. 21, 2010 11:55 p.m.

    I don't have stats but it's pretty easy to see that ak47 is playing pretty good, despite the recent poor shooting, his offensive stats are good because he's a smart player on offense and he either creates good shots or gets a good shot, and fesenko needs minutes but not ak's, ak is playing so good i'm not sure a trade with any of those players make us better in the short term or long term, because if the trade doesn't work out...at least ak is proven and he has more playoff experience than any of those guys.
    cj is great in the sixth man, if he keeps developing consistency maybe a starter down the line, u knew he could do it, i feel the same about fesenko, he could be a big part of successes.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 8:43 p.m.

    Don't take it the wrong way, I love AK, just not his contract. If AK was making half of what he is making now, nobody would say anything. Bottom line is our highest paid player is not our best player and if we have a chance to make a deal to get better financially and as a team, I think you do it. My point is, the Jazz can make some deals to get better for the future and they should. AK is not the same player he used to be, he is very inconsistent, so is Bell. I love this team, but I would love a chance to win a title too and right now we are missing some pieces that we could have if AK's contract was not hand cuffing the finances. Imagine Iggy, or G. Walace, Marrow, Crawford, we would be a much better team no question about it.

  • phnehme La Jolla, CA
    Dec. 21, 2010 4:42 p.m.

    No team has 5 starters that average 20 points a game. AK's role on this team is to play strong defense and distribute the ball, any points above 10 a game are gravy.....when he gets 4 steals, 5 assists and 10 points in a game we usually win. I agree with those that say his contract makes you less objective. Keep in mind he signed the contract the Jazz put in front of him, as would anyone, and at the time he was the Jazz number one option. It's not his fault KOC signed Boozer and Okur a year later...

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    Dec. 21, 2010 3:37 p.m.

    Re: Blauch-
    Thanks for the facts as opposed to so many biased opinions. The salary issue just has so many others down on AK, despite his effecient performance on the court. Although I sometimes cringe when he shoots, his offensive stats are really very good.

    As you say, his defensive stats are unquestionable. He gets injured because he lays his body on the line on every play.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 21, 2010 3:23 p.m.

    Except when CJ hoists 5 or 6 3s in a row, because he made a couple thinks can hit every one and you come up all those possessions with nothing, that does not help the Jazz. Statistics never tell the whole story Blauch. ALthough, I am certainly glad and thankful Andrei has been healthy, and is great when he plays well, his poor shooting over the last month does not help the Jazz. Then again, no one ever talks about leaving baseline open and watching teams burn the Jazz with 3 point shooting. The first month of the season was better, but as I say when the season goes on, teams make adjustments and find your weaknesses.

  • blauch Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 2:35 p.m.

    Sorry Pete you are wrong. The Jazz are not missing Wes Matthews that badly. I really like Matthews and wished the Jazz took him with the 2nd round pick. But the Jazz are a better defensive team this year

    We are better because Millsap is defensively better than Boozer and Jefferson is defensively better than Okur.

    Trading AK is a mistake. Every statical analysis shows the Jazz are a better team because of AK. But they are better entirely on the defensive end.

    Since Stockton and Malone left the Jazz Kirilenko has missed 119 games over 8 seasons during which the Jazz have won 50 games. If you just look at the last 6 years (since Williams has been here the Jazz are 39 and 35 in games AK has not played. Please show me how AK DOES NOT HELP THIS TEAM.

    As far as Miles being a dime a dozen. I agree that Wallace and Richardson are better players, but Miles is getting paid 1/3 the cost and is almost as good. He get to the line. He plays defense for the most part and he is a streak shooter.

  • redcliffs Ivins, Utah
    Dec. 21, 2010 2:23 p.m.

    If last night was a breakout out game for Bell, all this talk of trading for a 2 guard might not even be necessary. I want to see if Bell can get into a groove now and start shooting the ball. Historically he is a good shooter and defender. If last night was a fluke and he starts shooting bricks I would like to see Sloan change the starting lineup and go with Watson at the point, D-Will at the 2 guard,then Milsap, Jefferson, and AK or CJ, or Memo as the bigs. I like Watson at the point with the energy he brings and D-Will could be a great 2 but he would still handle the ball more than the average 2 guard

  • pate123 willard, ut
    Dec. 21, 2010 1:19 p.m.

    I guarantee the CJ Miles and AK are not helping the Jazz like you think, they do not have the consistency. AK can be a special player at times, however CJ is a dime a dozen! Why do you think we are missing Wes Matthews so badly, because of his toughness and his consistency. Anybody can score in the league if you hoist the ball everytime you touch it like(CJ). It's like the Boozer comparison, we miss some of the intangibles Boozer could bring, however we are a better team without him because of chemistry problems; it just didn't work and that's what I'm saying about CJ and AK. Trade them for a guy like Andre Iguodala,Gerald Wallace or Jason Ricardson and we'll improve instantly to an ELITE team in the NBA!

  • cedar Holladay, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 1:08 p.m.

    getting that tall kid from spain would be alike a high draft pick and would be fun to see him develop in the nba, i understand he was once a guard and i think he is fast enough to play small forward and would be ausome. i understand he is a poor mans gasol. i think his name is tomac.

  • cedar Holladay, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 1:04 p.m.

    do we have any draft picks this coming year with the big al trade and owe chicago the second pick with the sign aand trade booz loss this year exception and do you know if we might try and get the tall seven two foot player we drafed a couple of years back and we should have some extra rookie money if we don't have any picks.

  • blauch Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 11:24 a.m.


    When Millsap takes 14 shots they are 9 and 1
    When he take 16 shots the Jazz are 5 and 0

    Millsap is shooting 13.6 shots a game in wins and 11.2 in losses. On Average he is taking 12.8 shots a game. Which is 3 highest on the team. He needs to be # 1 or #2.

    When Millsap gets 10 or less shots a game the Jazz are 4 and 3.

    Harpring is correct they need to run more plays for Millsap. if the Jazz can get Boozer 14 shots a game for 4 straight seasons they should be able to get Millsap 14 shots a games

  • 1tobeamup Murray, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    2 teams right now need a big - Houston and Orlando. My hope is we can package Fes for a great shooting SG or SF - like Battier or Redick or J. Richardson (if they decide they don't need him from the trade after all). Any thoughts?

  • blauch Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 11:08 a.m.

    Just so everyone understands that when AK shoots less than 6 shots in a game the Jazz are 5 and 4. When he shots over 6 shots a games the Jazz are 14 and 5. When he does not shoot the ball the Jazz are a very bad team. Him and Miles are playing great basketball and they both need to shoot the ball so teams respect the Jazz's outside game and it opens the inside game.

    Williams, Millsap and Kirilenko have the best PPS (outside of Evans who only takes dunks). Really if the Jazz want to become an elite team Millsap NEEDS to shoot over 16 shots a game (Jazz are 9 and 1 when he does that) He needs more shots than Jefferson.

    Kirilenko is actually having one of the greatest statistical defensive seasons in the league (Small Forward Opponents are shooting 40% from the field while going to the line only 2.9 times a game.) Those numbers are better than James, Pierce, Durrant. Actually Kirilenko is the best Defensive small forward in the entire league.

    And as far as

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Dec. 21, 2010 11:03 a.m.

    I second that opinion.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    Coach Sloan is by far the Greatest Coach without a Championship.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 10:07 a.m.

    CJ Miles Needs to keep doing what he is doing, we need him to keep shooting the ball, it forces teams to guard him and not pack the paint. It gives our bigs a chance to rebound. Keep working hard, GO JAZZ!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 21, 2010 9:49 a.m.

    10 3's is what the Jazz need to open up the inside. He should take that many every game. He made four of them and that is like shooting 60% from 2.

    It doesn't matter if AK has better stats. AK is not a difference maker like CJ on offense. The Jazz need CJ to win close games or to beat better teams. AK isn't that type of player.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 9:43 a.m.

    Wes Matthews was 3/6 from 3 and 7/8 from the line last night along with 7 boards, Raja was 5/6 from 3...cj Miles jacked up 10 three pointers and if the game was about 2 minutes longer the Cavs may have caught us with cj Jacking and bricking 3's with plenty of time on the shot clock. cj is a very athletic and talented athlete but his descision making is suspect.

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Dec. 21, 2010 9:27 a.m.

    It was great to see Bell finally break out on the offensive end 19-pts 5-6 from 3. It would be great to be able to get those type of numbers from our 2 guard every night.

    As far as CJ is concerned ... 10 3-pt attempts is way too many in a game.

  • Your dead Uncle Saint George, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 9:13 a.m.

    Does AK have a clause in his contract that if he steals the opening tip then he gets first shot?

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 8:45 a.m.

    I would understand if the Jazz decide to trade AK for cap reasons. AK is getting paid like a superstar with his 17 million, that is really 34 million when you consider Lux tax, having to match dollar per dollar. TRADE AK!!!This team is not a championship caliber team right now. We are good, not great yet. The Jazz have assets to pull off a trade or two that woiuld make this team better now and for the future, but will they? I say the Jazz should get involved with the rumored Carmelo multi-team trade, Bring in a higher caliber shooting guard to help compliment D-Will in the back court. I trust our GM KOC, he has the inside track that fans dont see, but from the outside looking in, I think a trade is likely the best thing for this Jazz team not only for now, but for our future. GO JAZZ!

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    Dec. 21, 2010 7:57 a.m.

    again:look it up
    ak shooting percentage much higher than cj, in every category. and I really do like cj's game. without these 2 guys we do not have a sf and we are weak at sg. The system wins lots of games but is not geared for offense from those two positions

  • cjm Layton, UT
    Dec. 21, 2010 12:55 a.m.

    i cant believe im actually praising him and giving him a huge pat on the back (no pun intended) but a HUGE congratulations goes to jerry sloan who is not only tied with pat riley now but is about to be in 3rd place for all time wins in nba history all by himself after the jazz next win. to win that many games as an actual nba head coach is truly amazing but to do it with one franchise is a huge understatement.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 21, 2010 12:00 a.m.

    CJ is not good every other game. He had 16 points and 7 rebounds the last game. He is a factor on defense every night. His rebounding and scoring is way up this year along with his assists. He is one of the main reasons for the hot start.

  • Rodgers Sandy, UT
    Dec. 20, 2010 10:06 p.m.

    Where is Evans? He has been spectacular! What is Sloan doing? Is Jeremy hurt?

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 20, 2010 10:05 p.m.

    CJ this is why Houdini I will listen over you because if you do not think Fes deserves time, it is misguided. WHen you say CJ AGAIN has a great game, hey-----I have said he should be the one starting because it is best for the Jazz and CJ. Kirilenko every time he shoots, i say "NO!", he is back out of form. I support the players, but he bothers me more than anyone. I guess why is the money he is making. He is still a shell of what he once was...He is getting all these minutes, Tonight for example, tell me: Why did he have to come right back in start of 2nd quarter instead of FEsenko?

    CJ is an enigma. I am sorry to tell you he is not "great again" He is maybe "every other game"

    Every other game will help have us finish 2nd in the Northwest Division. The Jazz MUST win the NW to have a realistic playoff run....

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 20, 2010 9:57 p.m.

    Pate you should coach the Jazz!!

    CJ was spectacular once again. 22 points, 4 rebounds and 5 assists.

    The reason Hayward doesn't get more playing time is because AK is 3 times the player. Not even close.

    I see Fes is warming the bench again. I don't agree with Jerry on this one. Not that Fes really deserves to play either. The problem is the Jazz nedd Fes come playoff time. Jerry needs to think ahead and develop his players.

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    Dec. 20, 2010 9:05 p.m.

    With how AK is playing I don't get why Hayward doesn't get more playing time. It isn't like we are losing anything without AK on the floor, his defense hasn't even been good this year. And I swear he is always the one who gets the first shot of every game and it is a jump shot he bricks. His shot was lookin good at the beginning of the season but since then it has been horrid.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 20, 2010 8:32 p.m.

    Good win for the Jazz. It is important they hang around the top spot long as possible with all these road games.

    Millsap always seems to come out ready, I wish we all did every night. He started sharp. It was good to finally see Raja come out of his shooting slump. He seemed to take it slower than quicker release, it appears he has worked in practice hard on the shot. Miles was his good self tonight, played well, disappointed he became "3 point happy" after making a couple, but was important.

    All night the Jazz were better team. Good scoring from all starters except AK, who is awful shooting. I wish CJ would replace him but another time.

    Important was the good work, especially AJ with the offensive boards, helping us stay ahead with 2nd chances.

    1/2 court Defense was good, but the Jazz again refuse to guard the "3" kept Cleveland in it. They did get help with Jamison bad shooting night.

    DWIL got hot at the right time late in the 3rd and AJ warmed up, as we had enough.

    Seemed like Earl was quiet, yet solid again, 3 assists, 0 t/os, 4 boards

  • pate123 willard, ut
    Dec. 20, 2010 8:29 p.m.

    The Jazz officials must be showcasing CJ and AK for a potential trade;or why else wouldn't you play Evans more. Tonight the Jazz got decent shooting from the two, and when we do this we are tough to beat. So KOC trade these two(CJ&AK) and get us a quality legit two guard and let's contend out here in the west!