Catholic Bishop John C. Wester pushing immigration reform

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  • ? Fort Knox, KY
    Dec. 20, 2010 6:48 a.m.

    By this point, why not erase the boarders and become one America?

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 19, 2010 8:20 a.m.

    Enforcement of the laws on the books, not rewarding bad behavior, is the answer.
    The crux of the problem of ONE THIRD of the immigrants in the USA being here illegally is this: Crime pays.
    The likelihood of detection is low, and those who are identified will typically not be deported. Our politicians and clergy are apologists for them.
    That needs to change. The pressure to come here from the third world is increasing. PUSH BACK is the answer. Saying NO to the DREAM Act is a step in the right direction.

  • van Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 18, 2010 10:02 p.m.

    Bishop Wester God bless you.

    I am sorry there are so many people that are so blinded by hate that they are willing to withhold a childs way to become a part of a country that they have lived in most of their life.

    I am LDS and I am amazed of the hatred within the members my own church on the immigration issue.

    I am republican and I can't believe the hatred that flows from the republican party on immigration.

    If you care about immigrant children, or support a pathway to citizenship you are an automatic liberal..or you don't care about the people that are jobless or you support law breakers.

    With good people like the Bishop, the folk that signed the Utah Compact...maybe some day goodness will overpower ignorance and hate.

    Bishop, my prayers are with you and the good people of your church.

  • Brian the engineer Columbus, OH
    Dec. 18, 2010 7:50 p.m.

    I am disappointed that the DREAM act didn't pass. As we know, it isn't possible nor productive to

    A. Deport Everyone
    B. Give citizenship to all illegal immigrants

    Obviously some sort of compromise is required.

    This act would have provided a small benefit to a large group of people and a big benefit to a small group of people. Instead we continue with the status quo, where nobody benefits.

  • Jazz Bass Man Wellsville, Utah
    Dec. 18, 2010 2:43 p.m.

    The Dream Act was voted down in the senate, so GREAT news for all of us who believe in the rule of law, and preserving America frmo being overrun by illegals. Maybe they're finally getting the message that the people are fed up with this amnesty for illegals garbage.

  • jbc1 Mount Carmel, UT
    Dec. 18, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    Striving to make America a quality country where our children can grow and prosper is made a frustrating struggle by people like the Bishop. Our schools have become very expensive to operate. One question that comes to mind that harkens back to times past when the American colonies were ruled from Europe. Is the Bishop speaking as an American or as a citizen of the World?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 18, 2010 9:40 a.m.

    Back in the olden days clergy used to impress upon their congretations the moral imperatives to obey the law.

    I guess the message has changed slightly!

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    Dec. 18, 2010 8:20 a.m.

    @ John C. C., you are incorrect, this bill will be up for review in seven years (but still continue)(SEC. 16. GAO REPORT). Until then it's an open invitation to illegal immigrants to come here.

    The congressional budget office estimates at least 2 million ADULTS are eligible. That is not a small number, and new adults will become eligible each year.

    Amnesty is letting people here illegally stay. It's giving them what they broke the law for. It's not persecution to enforce laws. If these children went to their home country before their 19th birthday, they could apply for legal citizenship.

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    Dec. 18, 2010 7:52 a.m.

    This is not about bright and talented, it's about just graduating from high school or a GED, and being between 18-30. Many remember their home country because the culture moved here with them.

    With no graduation requirement, and allowing vocational training, it's all about amnesty. The few that do graduate will be taking jobs from your children. A reward for their parents breaking our laws.

    Why is this even being discussed?

  • CJ Murray, UT
    Dec. 18, 2010 7:48 a.m.

    Why don't you and the Catholic Church pay for them Bishop? Like all bleeding heart liberals, you are generous with other peoples money.It never fails. Where is your compassion for the children of America who were born here and obey the law? Guys like you make me physically sick, your phony compassion hides a hidden agenda and we all know what it is.The talents of illegal aliens can be developed in their own countries where they belong. They need to go home and take you with them.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    Dec. 18, 2010 6:23 a.m.

    The Deseret News mistakenly characterized the Dream Act as an amnesty. According to the Immigration Policy Council, the DREAM Act is not a mass amnesty, but a stringently defined exception which allows only a small number of college students/military service members to qualify. These are individuals who suffered through the indignities heaped on the undocumented, even though they are innocent of the choice of coming here illegally. They probably resent the way their parents are treated. In return they graciously obey our laws and prove that they are willing to become productive citizens.

    Some will oppose anything they see as "amnesty" because they fear it will encourage more illegal entry. Not so. This version of the DREAM Act only applies to those who were already here five years before its enactment. Any children who are not already here will not qualify.

    I guess anything short of an indiscriminate buzz saw of persecution will be considered amnesty by some people.

    Dec. 18, 2010 2:31 a.m.

    There are 5 different versions of this bill. This is the last one. HR 5281 EAH

    Here is one reason to vote against it.
    SEC. 10. (b)
    The Attorney General shall stay the removal proceedings of any alien who--
    is at least 12 years of age; and is enrolled full-time in a primary or secondary school.

    Any children 12-18 can not be deported. Since it would be impossible to deport the parents without the child, it would give amnesty to all the family until the last child graduates from high school. That would stop deportation of over half the families here illegally. The program is also scheduled to be an ongoing program, not a one time deal.

    This is not about schooling, it's about giving amnesty to those here illegally while people are busy preparing for the holidays. At a annual cost of 6 billion for the expected 1 million, and two million adults 18-30 eligible, the cost could double.

    It's not just for those here now, but those that come here illegally in the future. Pope Benedict XVI has told us that people need to immigrate legally.