Utah Jazz hit by a Heat wave

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  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Dec. 9, 2010 3:35 p.m.

    The Jazz starters were played too many minutes in the first quarter. AK and whoever was supposed to be accountable for Wade failed to keep track of him and Lebron during key moments of the game. Anyone in their right mind don't let these players roam unaccounted for all game long. You put a body on them before they have any chance to touch the ball. Unfortunately no one is on the Jazz roster to do that job.

    Miami is just a superior team and nothing can be done by Sloan to stop them. So quit complaining and enjoy the action. AK was off on his shooting, so he was relatively worthless. The way the game unfolded, players like Millsap and CJ did not get enough touches. The Jazz got killed on the boards, so their number of posessions were critically limited. The "Z" man, Ilgastus buried the Jazz with unmolested outside shooting. The Jazz don't match up with anybody in the league, so they must play that disgusting zone defense, which doesn't work on teams like Miami.

    You gotta love this "league". The only better league is the NFL.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 9, 2010 3:08 p.m.

    We have been winning games because Jerry was using Watson and Price. Last night he didn't even look at the bench for minutes. Bad idea.

  • Pete Queen Creek, AZ
    Dec. 9, 2010 1:59 p.m.

    A lot of wagon jumpers on today. It is not the end of the world. When things are going good, everything is great, loose a game and you want to get rid of everybody. It will be ok.

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Dec. 9, 2010 1:21 p.m.

    I agree with CJ. Way too many minutes

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Dec. 9, 2010 12:23 p.m.

    Trade CJ so that we have no scoring off the bench. Great idea...........

    When LeBron and Wade are both on fire, you are not going to beat the Heat. Simple as that..........

    Jerry played his starters too many minutes and it showed in the fourth quarter. Miami closed out the game and the Jazz didn't........

    It's one game....Move on

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 9, 2010 11:56 a.m.

    There is a scale that I feel is the most vital to team success a different plus minus: It is a PLUS figure-Pete Arbogast former USC basketball play by play discussed this when I first heard it and it makes a lot of sense.

    Road Wins-Home Losses.

    This gives you an idea where a team is, the higher plus the better.

    Ideally a Plus 0-10 means a decent season with a chance at the playoffs.

    Plus 10 or more is getting elite.

    Example: Ideally you want to win 3/4 of home games and a little over half the road, of course you would like to do better,.

    If a team goes 31-10 at home and 22-19 Road that is 53 wins...So you can see a plus 9, 10 or more is ideal.

    What is concerning the Jazz are only doing a little better than they should have but not much. Much of road wins are now being offset by home losses, and the road wins will not continue at this pace.

    Now it is only plus 2--7 road wins, 5 home losses.

    At this pace we will only finish Plus 7

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 9, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    No one is calling for SLoan to be fired, we are making comments on the game and trends lately like human beings do. Okur rebounding, low post option and shooting is becoming more obvious. What may have taken me 40 years too long to learn is this:

    The first month of the season has only some meaning that every win then you do not have to get later. The Season to me really starts in January. After 2 months as we are learning, things even out. Teams like New Orleans fades (as I predicted), others that get off to slow starts like Atlanta, Orlando and Miami and Denver come on..

    As we are all noticing, the Jazz are starting to see opponents for the 2nd time, and some later 3rd and 4th. These teams are figuring out how to slow us down and are making adjustments.

    As the season wears on, the weaknesses are always exposed.

    I thought the Jazz should have tried to acquire a wing on off season like Joe Johnson or Andre I.

    Okur is needed back for any chance at a long playoff run. That is reality. Size, shooting, low post, rebounding, etc etc

  • JustAnotherAverageGuy Holladay, UT
    Dec. 9, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    Guys, you can't win all 82. We got 'em at their place when they played less than great, and tonight at our place, we played less than great and they took it.

    They're one of the top teams in the East - no great shame in losing this one - step away from the ledge.

    Now if we lose to the T-Wolves again this year...

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Dec. 9, 2010 11:05 a.m.

    AK is a 17 million dollar starter. AK is getting paid SUPERSTAR MONEY!!!people are blaming CJ streaky play, who cares he is not a starter and he is not getting paid SUPERSTAR MONEY. AK is past his prime! If anyone on this starting 5 has been exposed, it is AK. Lebum left AK wide open to shoot jumpers and packed the paint. No team respects the Jazz outside shooting. If I were game planning to play the Jazz I would force the Jazz to shoot jumpers and pack the paint too. The Jazz need a scoring threat from the wing and please don't say Memo is the cure, he will help, but this offense is way to inconsistent. The Jazz need an athletic shooter to help D-Will. Raja should be coming off the bench, we need our 2 guard to avg. 15-20+ pts.

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Dec. 9, 2010 10:11 a.m.

    Wow What a bunch of crybabies here. Like always. Game loose fire coach trade everybody who has bad game. You guys don't even spare star player . Last year someone wanted to trade Deron.
    Jazz playing sloppy lately. I guess preparation or some mental staff and Deron not playing well. Without Fes second unit is too small. Last game Jazz was soft no hard foul ( Fes is good at it). Queen was all over place.
    It's NBA you cannot come out flat and win games.

  • phnehme La Jolla, CA
    Dec. 9, 2010 10:01 a.m.

    CJ is a run killer for us and run enabler for the other team....Jacking up three's at critical times enabling the heat to get a long rebound and run cost us the game in the 4th. Sloan finaly realized it and yanked him, unfortunatly the damage was done and they ran out to a 10 point lead. Deron also has to be smarter in the 4th, forcing passes at critical times have killed us in several games.

  • Idahoan Burley, ID
    Dec. 9, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    Is it too late to swap CJ for Matthews??? LOL

  • Idahoan Burley, ID
    Dec. 9, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    I feel that Sloan does not trust his 2nd team well enough yet. The Watson/Price combo was not utilized to start the 4th. That is when Williams gets a bit of a breather and allows those two to have a pit bull attitude on defense to spark the Jazz.

    CJ has to quit looking for 3s when he hits the floor. Attack the basket, get a flow going, then pop the 3s.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Dec. 9, 2010 8:35 a.m.

    If cj is the go to guy we are in trouble...he seems to launch bricks at the most in-opertune moments

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    Dec. 9, 2010 7:24 a.m.

    Jazz shot 1-14 from the 3. The Heat shot 9-20. That's the difference maker right there.

    Is CJ really worth keeping around for his one good game out of every five?

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2010 6:04 a.m.

    Too much is made of getting 2 fouls in the first half and sitting down. Last I checked you were allowed 6. Knock somebody down, use the fouls. Princess James had his way all night. CJ and AK should both be traded by the deadline. At least Harpring did not say D-Will is the leagues best point guard all night long as he proved last night that he isn't.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2010 4:24 a.m.

    It was just great was it not? Awesome performance by the Heat.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 8, 2010 10:59 p.m.

    I know Sloan will not likely do this. However, I think CJ is better to start than come off the bench. If he gets a couple early it feeds him to have a big game. I am also leaning to want CJ to get back in starting lineup at #3 with Millsap and AJ and Kirilenko off the bench,

    AK gets off to bad starts it seems then comes on later somewhat with his shooting. The Jazz it appears as we are getting more into the season, I would have to agree for once with DOug10, that Okur is needed. We need his 3 point shooting to open things up for AJ and Paul. They are doing well, earning the points but always seem to be swarmed with tough defense by taller and longer guys. AJ is not 6'10 guys and gals, more like 6'9 tops.

    Once the Jazz have a full and complete healthy squad, then we will have the answer looking for by the trading deadline. There will be enough time to see, if a full squad is seriously capable of challenging the Lakers and at least getting to the West Finals. Or just another team

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 8, 2010 10:54 p.m.

    The Jazz need Okur back.

    All the experts said at the beginning of the season that the Jazz would really miss how Okur spaces the floor, but what the Jazz are really missing is Okur's consistent rebounding.

    The Jazz got out rebounded 42 to 28, and let Miami get 15 offensive. I'm pretty sure that they have been out rebounded in every loss this season.

    I see Okur's ability to space the floor as a luxury, but his ability to rebound as a necessity. If the Jazz can turn around their rebounding woes they can contend, if not, I see them getting the 6th or 7th seed.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Dec. 8, 2010 10:51 p.m.

    This town has been in love with AK seemingly forever. The Heat are playing to theyr'e potential, fact is they are a better team than the Jazz if 4 starters like tonight play that way every night. The only weak spot is Arroyo and that could be exposed in the playoffs by Boston when the teams likely meet in the East Final..

    However, the Jazz got exposed for one of the few times this season with the biggest complaint I ever had on SLoan philosophy----3 point field goals.

    The Jazz have been one of the best defensively on 3s allowed and rotations have improved. Tonight, however, outscored by 21 from 3s. Nothing else mattered. That was the difference. Lebron hit some tough ones early. However, on most of the others, again too much separation between defender and shooter.

    AJ was great. Millsap held his own and came on. Raja was fine. CJ was not. He is still too up and down. DWIL was not his best tonight and his one negative is he is still not shooting well from 3 point line.

    I felt Price and Watson needed more time tonight. SLoan thought game would get away...

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Dec. 8, 2010 10:38 p.m.

    The Jazz should trade AK. 17 million? for what? He is not worth mid level. I wish the Jazz would make a push for Iggy. Dont let the Mavs get him. We have assets to make a deal happen. This team is good, but not great. Remember when the Jazz traded Girececk to 76's for Korver? Right now people leave AK unguarded and crowd the paint. AK got his head dunked on, seriously, UPGRADE NEEDED!LETS GO JAZZ!

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Dec. 8, 2010 10:32 p.m.

    I like how AJ played, I thought offensively this was one of his best as a Jazz. CJ has got to find a way to become consistant, his outside shot is just too inconsistant, if he is hitting the Jazz will probably win, but if he is missing, like tonight it is hard for the Jazz to make it up. Someone needs to tell him to adopt Ray Allens pre game workout / shooting schedule.
    Rebounding was a big problem too.

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Dec. 8, 2010 10:20 p.m.

    Deron can't do it alone.

    I'm tired of AK's inconsistency.

    Troubling that the Jazz can't dominate on their home court.