Ms Molli, This is a federal case. The state has no control over any of
the decisions on what amount of money should be spent. It is federal money, a
federal case, and federal decisions. There are no, and I mean no, state
decisions.However, why is Welner's pay an issue but not DeMier's?
DeMeir never put forth the effort to even try to understand the religious mileiu
that Mitchell belongs to. His testimony indicated no familiarity with the FLDS,
let alone with the much more inportant to this case loaner claimants to being
"The One Mighty and Strong" or to the extreme notions of Bo Gritz, who
Mitchell was at one point a follower of, and whose extrimist notions are closely
connected with Mitchell's excommunication.The fact is that there are
lots of other people in Utah and surrounding states who make claims to being the
"one mighty and strong" or the "Davidic King" on as little
grounds and with as little following as Mitchell. Yet of them only Mitchell
kidnaps a girl from her bedroom. His religious beliefs forcing him
to his crime does not add up.
It is odd that Welner's pay becomes an issue but not that of DeMier or the Utah
State Hospital operator whose name exscapes me. The later has a true conflict
of interest, because keeping as many people like Mitchell out of prison and in
state hospitals is the key to that guys job.Welner wins either way.
The key to his job is tough debates and close calls about conpetence and sanity.
If he does his job so throughly we realize that claims of incompetence to stand
trial and not guilty by insanity are inherently flawed, we could revamp the
system to get rid of him.Thus, the defense is going after the wrong
person in identifying who has financial conflicts.Anyway, the
question of what Welner is paid seems out of context. What were these defense
experts paid? What are similarly situatated and experienced forensic
psychiatrists paid? What type of staff organization does Welner have to
support? What are the costs of having an office in New York?
It is not just this case... the cost of obtaining "justice" is
horrendous,and leads many to not even bother to try, even if they can afford the
cost. Therefore many a guilty party escapes prosecution, and many an innocent
cannot defend themselves.Most "expert" witnesses, and legal
representatives play the game, and judges are usually divorced from reality.
@Jack-P"Of course he's going to say whatever the prosecution wants
him to say."Except that what he has to say is UNASSAILABLE,
logically and factually. If he WERE "just" saying "whatever the
prosecution wants him to say," his testimony would be eaten alive by the
Defense. But that is not the case (although Defense is kicking and screaming).
:Welner said he has billed the government for more than $746,000... a
discounted rate of $425 an hour... He is being paid $5,000 a day to testify, (2
½ days so far)... He also has the government reimburse him for airfare
and hotel costs."Listen, I think Mitchell is guilty too. He
could be mentally ill. I don't know, but this is obscene. This adds up to
nearly ONE MILLION DOLLARS for ONE witness. It's beyond overkill. Of course
he's going to say whatever the prosecution wants him to say.
Excuse the typo in my last comment. $500 instead of %500
Almost %500 an hour and $5,000 a day to testify!Not only does
Mitchell make me sick, but this psychiatrist does too!A case of
I think this trial will set a precedent. Anyone who wants to play the insane
card like Mitchel will end up in prison rightfully. It's my tax money too but I
woulnd't want a criminal ending up in a mental hospital instead of prison.
The only thing that could redeem our justice system from all the tax dollars
wasted in this case is to make certain that Brain David Mitchell and every
convicted offender is given the worst death penalty possible. Not like the
already nice electric chair,firing squad,and others we already have.More
like the dark ages. These people lost their Constitutional rights when they did
what they did.Otherwise our system will remain a joke forever.
Rifleman -- it is a lot to spend. I'm very torn about how the State or the
Federal Government decides which cases to spend tons of money on and which not
to, cause I don't think in many cases it has much to do with which cases will
most likely find a guilty verdict. There are many victims of horrendous crimes.
Yet we don't have an unlimited budget to spend to prosecute everyone. So I
understand your thinking here. I'm not sure what the solution is. Perhaps
Mitchell is considered to be extremely dangerous to others (and I would agree
with that if he was), and due to that danger we need to spend whatever resources
need to be spent to make sure the public will be safe from him.
So do you want Mitchell to get the lesser punishment?
Billing $500.00 an hour for his services seems a bit excessive. How many
millions has Mitchell and his attorneys cost the taxpayers?