A giving heart: Providing housing first helps homeless the most

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  • LgnUt Logan, UT
    Dec. 1, 2010 1:41 p.m.

    To Anon 64: Thank you for the sermon on how worthless I am...I had a job interview yesterday and apparently such a loser that I wont get to the second round.Thanks for kicking someone when they are already down. I was working two jobs for the past two years before we lost everything--the house, my jobs, all our household stuff, and my car. Would you be able to be more compassionate or has all that sun and sand gotten to you?

    I am not a free loader, tried all the resources I could before things got to this point. Bishops, church groups, family all turned us away. If there is anyone who knows who else I could talk to, it would be greatly appreciated.

  • Ex-Pat of Zion Lititz, PA
    Nov. 29, 2010 12:07 a.m.

    Government has been looking at the LDS model for decades. Why? Because it works. Bishops expect (it's probably in the manual)service of some sort in exchange for the help rendered ... for the recipient's self esteem more than a tool to recoup costs (i.e. cheap labor). I've seen FDR criticized for his "make work" projects. Obama for many of the same reasons.

    The next private sector job offered to these folks will be the first. The self righteous call them lazy and tell them to go get a job but won't hire them or educate them ... or allow them to live (even temporarily) in that foreclosed home down the street on "McMansion Hill" in Draper.

    Segregation is the price of comfort. At a soup line in the article, all a poor woman wanted was a hug (that, by the way, would be equivalent to acceptance)

    Two closing thoughts to shake up your Stepford lives: "one thing thou lackest" and Lazarus being welcomed into the bosom of father Abraham.

    Forced redistribution of wealth is a phony imitation of the United Order, but I prefer it over ...um...just read Mormon. We're headed there

  • Patrick Henry West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 28, 2010 8:32 p.m.

    The government should follow the LDS Welfare system. You want help you got to do something to earn it. Even if you are wheel chair bound and your hands are crippled there is something you can do to contribute and feel like you have earned the help you are given.

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    Nov. 28, 2010 7:25 p.m.

    There is an old saying about the Church: We teach a person how to fish and then they fish to support themselves.

    The problem with the Government Welfare system is that it is a bandaid effect. It doesn't cure the problem it just puts a bandaid on it hoping it will go away. President Reagan saw the Church's welfare program and thought that is the way the government needs to go. Unfortunately, many do not see that.

    The Church helps those who are in need but it is only temporary, not a permanent solution. The Perpetual Education program is there to teach someone a trade and get them a job, then they provide for their own welfare. In time they pay back the fund if they can.

    One must be willing to seek aid and then to work to get them out of their situation. Unfortunately, we are so close to the unemployment of the Great Depression and the economy has not grown at the pace it should have. We need to create jobs to put people to work. How is really up to each and every American.

  • maidenwings westvalley, Utah
    Nov. 28, 2010 5:55 p.m.

    my aunt and myself bring in donations few times
    its very hard time to find a job!
    Besides a very high price to rent a place,wish them well

  • Anon 64 Oahu, HI
    Nov. 28, 2010 5:34 p.m.

    Logan: I know some people in Cache Valley, they are good people.

    Getting Help means different things to different people.

    Some people want to just be given, and given and given, there will never be enough in those Welfare Checks.

    Others want Jobs, really want jobs and really want work.

    I believe that some people want to just talk about getting a job. Its like talking to a Drunk in a Bar about being Sober.

    Or a Fat Person about losing weight at a Vegas Buffett. Not much happening after the Meal.

    For the most part the Drunks remain drunk and the Fat Remain Fat.

    Logan if you are homeless where did you find the Computer to Gripe On?

    In Hawaii we have kids who depend on their free breakfast and free luch because often thre is little or No Dinner. However at least its 83 over 70 and living outside because your parent won't follow shelter rules is not to bad.

    As a Homeless child in the late 50's, I will tell you a Group Home is better then a Car any day. no matter how much you may or may not love your parents.

  • Penelope Ellsworth, ME
    Nov. 28, 2010 5:32 p.m.

    We all need to take notice. Notice or our lifestyles. Wants vs Needs!

    I see poverty here in Maine in excess!!! Not that unemployment and homelessness is not everywhere... but in some locations it is worse.

    There has got to be a better way of teaching skills and self reliance. I know the LDS church has a wonderful program, but it can't seem to reach all those in need. Our government welfare program STINKS! It perpepuates the problem from one generation to another!

  • LuVePacifica westvalley, Utah
    Nov. 28, 2010 4:52 p.m.

    not agreat time to be in this situation..
    some time soon they will be able to afford the most important things in life..

    As of right now they have the love of thier mother or father in care to guide them,Godbless

  • Ex-Pat of Zion Lititz, PA
    Nov. 28, 2010 3:24 p.m.

    Bishop Burton in the May '97 Ensign cited the Samaritan parable and issued a challenge. I would add to that a "parable" by Brigham Young about the man (member) who took a widow's cow for a pledge and thanked the Lord that night for HIS good fortune.

    I have my own take: The "traveler" (through life)is the man who held down an IT job. The "thieves" who stripped him of his raiment and left him for dead were the executives who made money (bonuses) buy cutting head counts. The Priest and the Levite the unscathed class (the beautiful people) and the Samaritan the bureaucracy that administers to the poor. The Church and the government are doing difficult work here. The Church is criticized for its customs (Samaritans were generally despised) by the left and the government (entitlement programs) criticized by the right.

    Do not adorn yourselves with that which hath no life and suffer the poor to pass you by and notice them not. Members of the church who have made the highest covenants (and fail to keep them) with the Lord should be particularly warned. Mockery will not be tolerated

  • LgnUt Logan, UT
    Nov. 28, 2010 1:30 p.m.

    I am glad to see someone getting help. My children and I have been homeless in Cache Valley since May and no one cares or turns a blind eye to our requests. We are in a situation where my youngest son and I have mental health issues, and the apathy is more than I can bear at times. Too bad the residents here don't live up to their reputation...

  • awsomeron1 Oahu, HI
    Nov. 28, 2010 12:47 p.m.

    Homelessness is Child Abuse.

    I know this from having been Homeless as a Child.

    This is why I have a Foster Home License and help by cleaning up the Poka. Not the Keiki but the Society that creates this condition.

    I find myself in Court so often the Juvie Judge knows us by name.

    Where there is Not Substance Abuse, I am enfavor of Programs.

    Where there is Substance Abuse, Not so much because Re-hab so often fails. Its kind of take the kids and the heck with the adults kind of thing, but you have to draw the line somewhere.

    I am about the keiki and someone else can be about the Adults Abuseing Substances and Refuseing to Stop.

    Anyone like Mrs Christansen who is a success story, I am on her side.

    Homeless Little Girls do Not Become Behive Presidents (please prove me wrong) they mostly become "ota here/there as soon as they can.

    They often become Victims of the failure. We have had time enough now to have another generation of Homeless people. Like it runs in the family.

    We do Not Have Trailers in Hawaii. But some people, live on the Beach for Years.

  • NewMexicoUte Albuquerque, NM
    Nov. 28, 2010 8:05 a.m.

    It just kills me to see homeless families struggling to find shelter/food at any time of the year. The picture above with mother and four daughters just kills me! That is why my wife and I try to donate as much food and clothing as we possibly can, and volunteer whenever a thrift store or food bank needs help. It is one way for me to give, if nothing else! God bless homeless families and their children.