BYU, Utah State basketball: Cougars hold off Aggies

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  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:35 p.m.

    Just Me

    The scoreboard thing was real, and, it really wasn't anything to get your delicate feathers ruffled about. You've said plenty of stuff far more insulting on this blog, than the mild blurb posted on the scoreboard for about 5 seconds.

    Stop whining!

  • Just Me SLC, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:03 p.m.

    Idaho Guy:

    Your comments just go to show that fans like you believe NOTHING bad could ever happen at byu.

    Wow. AND HOW would you know its a myth? How would you know it's an outright lie CONCOCTED to make byu look bad?

    Trust me...they do a great job ALL BY THEMSELVES!!!!

  • posterized Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 4:46 p.m.

    No, the scoreboard thing is real. Read the articles about it. I was sitting behind the student who posted it and saw him as he was making it.

    Good game overall. Wesley's dunk in the first half was phenomenal and made ESPN top 10. Jimmer started off on fire, but BYU needs to trust each other a little more. Jackson trying to draw the foul calls on the 3's is a smart play, but is only a foul if the player's falling on you and not if you're jumping into him. Should have just repositioned for a clean shot on both of those plays. BYU shoots poorly despite some good looks but still gets the grind it out win.

  • Idaho guy Meridian, ID
    Nov. 18, 2010 3:57 p.m.

    The scoreboard thing is a myth. No message was derogatorily posted about USU. If it was there would be a photo of it widely distributed, but it is just an out and out lie concocted to make BYU look bad.

    Truth is BYU won a tightly contested game between 2 really good programs. Kudos to both teams for a hard fought game, and hopefully they will both make the NCAA tourney as conference champions!

  • Utah_State_Fan Logan, Utah
    Nov. 18, 2010 2:45 p.m.

    What an exciting game to watch, how about Brian Green, what a ball player.

    @ TGR-BLUE,

    speaking of class, didn't BYU have up on their scoreboard, after the game, something about "Dear Utah ST, enjoy the loss, your big brother BYU." Did you hear about that?

  • Humm?? tropic, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 2:38 p.m.


    Whaa, Whaaaa,

    "Tried to drown us out" How many vs how many?

    "Wild Bill's overweight body" Well it's not as overweight this year - because he got sick and almost died.

  • TGR-BLUE West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 2:17 p.m.

    USU has good players, but I think USU fans have an attitude problem that might be reflected by the coach and the administration. I sat below the USU students. They were very loud and that's great, but they were OBNOXIOUS and RUDE. Whenever BYU sang their school song they tried to drown us out. When Byu shot a free throw, they made rude sounds and if the BYU player made his first free throw they erupted with "You still suck" repeated several times. I saw the USU-BYU game last year and "Wild Bill" sat right behind BYU's basket and made gross gestures with his obviously overweight body trying to distract BYU'S players as they shot free throws. When asked about "Wild Bill" Morrill gave a weak remark about his lack of concern and indicated it might help them win games.
    My question is why doesn't USU or Coach Morrill have the decency to at least register a concern and ask their fans to have more class???

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 18, 2010 1:40 p.m.


    It hurts my feelings that you're not impressed with the Marriot Center. I'll have to see the spectrum right away. The spectrum must sell beer. Is there an Artic Circle close by?

  • gus15 Mantua, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 12:18 p.m.

    K as much as I was surprised that they turned the foul into an intentional, we cannot blame the ref's for losing. BYU 's offensive boards and missing free throws (including the front-end of 1 and 1's)did us in. I have a few friends that are BYU students. The first thing they said to me was the ref's screwed the aggies over and they outplayed us.
    He also said the atmosphere was better than usual for a preseason game. So if he is right I am thoroughly unimpressed with the Mighty Marriot. BYU fans on here always talk it up but it is nothing compared to the Spectrum. He also said BYU students were very impressed with the Spectrum on Wheels.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 18, 2010 11:12 a.m.

    What I saw was a well played game. Utah State played catch-up most of the game and the refs called a tight game on both sides. There is no shame for either team and both should make the big dance. Both teams will lose to the Utes--(just kidding).

  • Cougs4Life Gilbert, AZ
    Nov. 18, 2010 11:02 a.m.

    What a great game, especially for November...very entertaining and well fought on both sides.

  • Swimmer Honeyville, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 10:59 a.m.

    For those of you complaining about that call, just have one thing to say:

    Want some cheese with that whine?

    Calls happen in every game that affect the game. Get over it. Even Wesley manned up and said he knew about the new rule about throwing elbows and he made no excuses. Follow his lead.

  • Superzero Farmington, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 10:18 a.m.

    RE: Utah Man

    Shot clock violation? Serious still bitter about that one? There is this thing called technology that showed definitive proof that shot a couple of years aga was the right call. Frustrating glitch (or whatever you call it) the proof was there.

    And although some Aggie fans are complaining about the call. I'm not. I thought for the most part the officating was pretty fair. There were bad calls both ways and when it comes down to it the shots and free thows missed sealed the Aggies fate not the call.

    The "Home cooking" goes to BYU (not the refs) for finishing out the game.

    Go Aggies!

  • Superzero Farmington, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 10:10 a.m.

    I thought this was a great game considering I predicted BYU would win by 15. So I'm glad to see that I was wrong and that it was a hard fought fight. Both teams played hard and I think both can have awesome seasons.

    I'm not one to complain about officating, and I'm not going to start today. Besides, the Aggies missed key shots and free throws down the stretch so the blaming officating arguement has as much holes as swiss cheese. BYU finished the game out fair and square and the call against Tai, frustrating as it was, is the correct call according to the rules.

    But I'm proud of my Aggies for hanging tough with a highly respected program in BYU. I really hope these two teams come to a scheduling agreement soon as last night's game was really good.

    Nov. 18, 2010 10:10 a.m.

    I knew this was going to happen. Whiney little Aggie fans blaming the refs. usu only had one more foul called on them on the road. Unusual usually the home team has more of a descrepency than that. I thought wesley should have fouled out earlier. He should have had a technical in the first half when he clearly shoved Fredette after a play. This game was close, because BYU shot the ball so poorly, and usu had two roll players have carreer nights. BYU is definately still trying to find their true identity this year. USU is very well coached. All BYU haters always say BYU is overrated, but they have finished in the top 25 the last two years and they'll do the same again this year, and with the rest of the year to gel coach Rose will have the Cougars in a great spot to make a run in the NCAA tourney. GO COUGS!!!!!

  • Humm?? Somewhere in, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 10:01 a.m.

    Just remember that USU starting center did not even play. Could have had a big impact for USU.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:56 a.m.

    It's a tough loss against a quality opponent. Hope that all those that thought it would be a blow-out gained a little appreciation for Stew & Co. These are clearly the best two teams in the state. The players of both teams know they were in a dog fight.

  • Utah Man Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:53 a.m.

    Hey Logan State... Now you know how it feels to be homecooked by the referees. Whether it is multiple clock malfunctions or biased referees up in Logan, you guys finally got a taste of your own medicine down at the Marriott Cultural Center. Well played game, but an unfortunate ending. Both of these schools are going to have good seasons.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:51 a.m.

    Live Hard,
    Just more sour grapes. More cheese with that whine?

    The rule CLEARLY states that the player does not need to make contact with the elbows for it to be an intentional foul. Certainly the referees know the rule better than you and they looked at the replay for two minutes! They knew they had to get it right since it was at a crucial point in the game and that it would heavily scrutinized by everyone. Point is, they got it right, as much as it may pain you. Man up and admit it and get over it. Stop sounding like a whiny little brother.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:45 a.m.

    Great early season game that will give both teams plenty of film to school their players. Enjoyed the cheering from the Aggies fans that were a few rows above me. This game should have been a seal out. Shame on both schools for not filling up the arena. Both teams played hard. Aggies missed way to many inside shots in the first half, Cougars didn't react quick enough to Green 3s. Poor Jackson got a few aggression fouls (refs were calling some plays very tight-of course its an early game for them also). I agree his jumping into a player that has left his feet trying to shoot a 3 is Kobie-like but he never got the call and both shots were way off the mark so he should just shoot the ball normally. Overall good performance to watch now on to Saturday. Play one game at a time.

  • Resident Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:38 a.m.

    Good win, BYU! Was very impressed with USU's execution. I think we saw to very good teams battle it out on the court.

    @ Just Me: Thanks for the laugh. Love how you call out BYU for whining as you continue your 5-paragraph rant.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:36 a.m.

    Good win for BYU. When the NCAA selection committee decides on a seed, this win will be a check in the "quality win" category.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:33 a.m.

    Mr. Mustard,
    You heard correct. Stewie said exactly that, "The bad guys won." He seems to be a great coach of basketball but he could use some training in communication and etiquette. I know because I too could use that. It takes one to know one, and I am one of those classless fans so I should know.

  • Unbiased Viewpoint Draper, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:24 a.m.

    As an Unbiased Viewpoint the following facts must be looked at. Keep in mind I have no leaning either way just looking at it from a 200 foot perspective.

    Score when the Wesley foul was called. BYU 72 USU 69. Final USU score total 72 (note USU got a gimmie two free throws on Collinsworth fould out next trip down).

    Foul or no foul likely would not have changed the outcome.

  • Mean Mr. Mustard Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 9:07 a.m.

    Did I mishear the Aggie coach last night saying "the bad guys won"? Maybe I heard it wrong, but if I didn't that seems like pretty poor sportsmanship.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 8:47 a.m.

    Good Win Cougars. Good game Aggies and hope you win on Georgetown.

  • JustintimeY Boise, Id
    Nov. 18, 2010 8:07 a.m.

    Great game to watch until the very poor foul call on Wesley with two minutes to go. That being said there was a clear foul on Noah H going to the rim on a layup no call. The Wesley defensive rebound should have been a no call in my Cougar opinion. It seemed to me that USU played harder and set the tempo, USU is cleary a very good team this year. Also Wesley has shown that he is a great player and that the Y made a Huge Mistake by not offering him as they did his older brother. Not sure BYU is a top 15 team or a team that can make it to the sweet 16 this year. They relay to much on the fast break and threes, and have a suspect half court offensive, with no low post options. We clearly miss Miles low post defense and JT's ability to stretch the floor. Jimmer will be a treat to watch all year.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:42 a.m.

    @Tin Man:

    You set yourself up for a "sore" loss with all your trash talk - in reality you're lucky the score was as close as it was. The Cougars missed too many free throws and the overall shooting percentage was low.

  • 42istheanswer SLC, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:39 a.m.

    Good job Jimmer. Tough call for USU but good job making it a game. Both teams looking good. Best of luck to both of you this seaason. Go Utes!

  • jazzlover Highland, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:30 a.m.

    Aggieforlife -- Yeah, I thought the Kobe Bryant moves of trying to draw the foul at the three-point line were pretty ridiculous. But overall, glad to see the Cougs win!

  • Just Me SLC, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:29 a.m.

    One thing is for sure:

    byu players spend a lot more time before the game on their hair!!! I some some really cute styles out there.

    As for Aggie fans whining??? That's a funny one coming from kittie fans. The entire state knows byu has a corner on that market.

    Aggies make you free throws as simple as that. It will help you overcome the bad calls. As for the ref's doing final fours and NCAA championship games. I believe it. Probably the year John Wooden won his first Championship!!!

    The call before half time was a Harry & Lloyd classic. byu player goes over the back on a missed byu free throw. UsU knocks it out as he gets pushed, mashed, and FOULED. No call , but the ref correctly gives the ball back to usu saying it went out on byu (smart move). Then Lloyd comes running in and says "Harry, you have it wrong, it went out on USU"

    As fro emery.....square up and shoot the ball. You look pathetic when you flail all over the place.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:20 a.m.

    We all agree the officiating was horrific for both teams, but it evened out. The bottom line is BYU made the plays down the stretch and USU did not. It helps to have home court as well. To the person who said USU lost it and BYU didn't win it, remember that BYU had to make their free throws to win. BYU clearly won it in the last two minutes. Making a bunch in free throws in crunch time is a sign of good players.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:16 a.m.

    Cougars made a serious mistake not signing Wesley.

  • YtxPat Sugar Land, TX
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:11 a.m.

    Great win for the Cougs! After watching the Lobos and Aztecs do great earlier this week I look forward to a very good MWC schedule and some excellent basketball. We still need to move the ball around more and secure the shot in the paint. We are relying to much on the 3 pointer.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:06 a.m.

    Bad calls!? Basketball is a game where too much of the outcome is determined by the judgement of the officials, especially offensive fouls (charging) versus blocking fouls. I have never been able to understand the difference and it seems to vary from one official to another and from one league to another. Even who the player is (has Kobe ever been called for an ofensive foul?) Football is a much more pure sport in my opinion because there are fewer judgement calls made by officials, with the exception of pass interferance. Part of the game is to understand how the officials are calling the game and adjust play style. The best player always do that well.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 18, 2010 7:00 a.m.

    No idea how anyone could say Wesley's flagrant was a bad call. The refs went to the monitor and looked at in in slo mo to make sure they got it right. However, it clearly was a game changer. It was a back and forth battle until the foul, but BYU had the momentum from that point on. Too bad these two teams don't play a home and home each year. I think BYU could have won in Prove last year, and USU probably gets the win in Logan this year. Two evenly matched teams with a lot of pride on the line. Great rivalry.

    Too bad the Utes can't play at this level.

  • Y4LYFE Provo, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 6:52 a.m.

    Regardless of ref calls, it'd be the same outcome either way.

    BYU wYns.

  • yewtyzoob Springville, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 6:13 a.m.

    Love it when Utah State JC fans turn to cheers as their way of dealing with a loss.

    The refs were terrible for both teams. Hard fouls weren't being called and ticky tack fouls were called too often.

    @ Live Hard: Utah State does have excellent defense and shut down lots of BYU inside shooting, but most of the outside shots BYU took during the game were open and missed; USU didn't take away much from the outside game because BYU did that themselves.

    I want to finish up by saying Wesley's brother is better and always will be.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Nov. 18, 2010 5:54 a.m.

    Glad this one was played in the Marriott Center. USU will do well this season and their fans will have a lot to continue whining about.

  • 3rdGenAggie Logan, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 2:15 a.m.

    Davies's problem is that he went to BYU where they woefully misuse their good big men. If you can't shoot the 3, Rose doesn't want you! ;)

    Great game though...too bad the zebras had to make their presence known so much instead of letting the boys decide it. Regardless, both these teams will go places this year.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 1:29 a.m.

    Ogden Aggie, Tin Man, Live Hard,

    Hate to admit it but you are aright. Wesley should have never been called for the elbows.

    I mean, as Stew said, it's the correct call.

    But he should have fouled out earlier. Not for too physical fouls, those no-calls ya deal with.

    Throwing Jimmer to the ground, grabbing the jersey chasing the ball.

    Wesley need to stay on the floor and not the bench. It hurts his team.

    Jonsie, calm the guy down, he needs to play basketball.

    Aggies, stop complaining about the officiating. I think you got your share.
    tron527 | 10:07 p.m. Provo, UT
    "Was the referee a BYU alumni,(?)"

    According to the announcers, all three have called Final Four and the lead ref had called a NCAA Championship game. Cheese with your whine?


    USU needs to hit front ends of one and ones. BYU will win many more games this year because they can MAKE their freethrows.

    But they will lose some unless they run a few more sets.

    Awe, Props out to the UofU football team. Carrying the in-state water tonight for the school.

    Cheer up, Utes on the schedule.

    Wesley is a stud.

  • reno-aggie Sparks, NV
    Nov. 18, 2010 12:42 a.m.

    Perspective is a funny thing. Both sides feel they got worked by the refs. When you take emotion out of the equation & look at the #'s the refs were consistently inconsistent for both teams. That being said, the Wesley call was huge! When you take off your partisian blinders & watch the play from a non baised view, a few things become obvious:
    1-The rebound was in traffic and contested
    2-Collinsworth reached in & had his arm wedged between Wesley's body & the ball.
    3-Wesley stepped back, ripped his shoulders through with his elbows pointed down to free himself.
    4-Wesley's elbows did not make contact.

    Here's were perspective comes in:
    1-Could Collinsworth been call for reaching in? Probably
    2-Did Wesley commit a foul? Probably
    3-Could the refs have let the play go? Probably
    4-Is it hard to believe an intentional foul was called when no contact wss made? Definetly

    USU fans, the Wesley call hurt, but the Ags buried themselves by missing free throws.

    BYU fans, the Cougs deserved the victory, they made more plays down the strech. But ask yourself how you would have reacted if the roles were reversed?


  • geezergary Salem, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 12:15 a.m.

    Bad call that sent Wesley to the bench. I thought USU outplayed us. The cougs weren't really in sync tonite but it's only the second game and I expect Rose will have them well oiled as the season moves on. What's the deal with Davies? We're still waiting for all that potential to come to fruition.

  • Aggieforlife Logan, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 12:14 a.m.

    As an Aggie fan in attendance for this game I though the officiating was bad both ways, but the game didn't hinge on the foul calls at the end. The game like it always does hinges on taking care of the ball and making free throws, amongst other things. The cougars played well, I thought the Aggies played good defense and controlled the tempo of the game well. My one question is this though. Does Jackson Emery think he's Kobe Bryant with his shot fakes from the 3 point line and then trying to lean into the defender and draw the foul? Just a thought and maybe no one will agree with me that it was ridiculous. Hopefully both teams can have great seasons and win their big games, especially the Aggies on Dec. 4th when they go to washington d.c. to play the Georgetown Hoyas.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:48 p.m.

    I also thought the officiating was particularly bad on both ends of the court. Terrible no-calls and lots of calls for phantom fouls. It was really bad for both teams. BYU was lucky to win this. Other players need to step up and Jimmer has to quit forcing the shot unnecessarily. When he gets double- or triple-teamed he needs to learn to pass to the open man. He should be able to pick that apart mercilessly.
    I'd like to see Rogers get more time. He played really well for the short time he was in.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:43 p.m.

    Does anyone know what happened to Davies tonight?

    He only played one minute and didn't appear to have much energy.

    That was a tough game, but the Cougars did well against such a tough opponent so early in the season, especially while they're still breaking in several new players and returned missionaries.

  • nehu Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:13 p.m.

    I enjoy excuses and besides our free throw shooting the real excuse for the Ags is the lack of size and depth inside. Bottom line we have Bendall our STARTING center I think we win that game, still a close game but we still pull it out.

    I've often said BYU has better players but thank goodness for Stew who gets more bang for his buck out of his players.

    Is Bendall coming back or is his foot that messed up?

  • TheSpiker Alpine, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:11 p.m.

    Live Hard

    Always proving that you really don't know anything.

    The officials spent an extraordinary amount of time watching the video of the elbow call and determined that it was an intentional foul. The USU coach when asked about the call in the post game interview said himself that there was a rule change for this year and that, based on the rule, the call was correct.

    Thanks for your interest in all things BYU.

    By the way, was that a junior college that Wyoming lost to yesterday?

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:06 p.m.

    Anybody who whines about refs calling fouls have a very week case in college basketball. There are far too many violations ignored for the sake of "letting them play".

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:05 p.m.

    Nice win Cougars, but that was not a good shooting performance tonight, 38 percent wont get it done most nights. Still they kept battling and found a way to win and thats what great teams do in close games. Go Cougars!!!

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:05 p.m.

    Please try and avoid the BYU habit of predicting conference championships and deep runs into the NCAA. It just makes you sound arrogant and naieve.

    I was impressed with the defense USU played on Fredett by doubling him up at the top of the key. teams did it some at the end of last year but I thought USU did it very well while still not furtint their other defensive assignments. BYU will need to play a lot better to win the conference.

    By the way, what is up with Davis.

    Oh, congratulation to Anderson. Great to see him contribute.

  • In Reserve Sandy, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 11:01 p.m.

    Three refs looked at the replay to determine if the foul was flagrant. One of the refs has worked a final four, another is one of the best in the MWC. Having determined that it was a flagrant, aren't they also in agreement with the original calll? They obviously believed they got it right. I'll live with it.

  • LOTR Baltimore, MD
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:48 p.m.

    Live Hard

    Quite obviously, Wesley's elbows weren't at his side or he wouldn't have been whistled for a flagrant foul for swinging his elbows.

    Since when have you ever been objective about anything concerning BYU?

    How about those Cowboys!

  • Love the Game American Fork, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:45 p.m.

    Does BYU have any offensive sets that get shots for post guys? Why don't we take advantage of Abuo's huge body on mismatches inside? Our offense seems to be pass it to Jimmer until he is double or triple teamed and then when he passes it, which isn't often, we must get it back to him as soon as possible.

    Come on coach. This won't win us the title this year.

    Jimmer: Game 1 you played like an NBA point guard. Game 2, you looked like a gunner on the church ward ball team.

  • kat Ogden, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:43 p.m.

    Speaking of not getting it - USU shut down the Y's shooting? How do you explain the score??
    Wesley's elbows were above his shoulders, and were swung faster than the rotation of his body - read the rule, and watch the replay. The refs did for about two minutes!
    What flavor is that Cache Valley Kool-?

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:43 p.m.

    Proud to be American

    Leave the arm-chair quarterbacking and soothsaying to the pros. There's a reason you weren't on any of the half-dozen or so selection committees who named Jimmer pre-season, first team All American.

    Check out the front cover of Sports Illustrated's College Basketball preview:

    Sports Illustrated's All-America Team

    Staff writer Seth Davis and senior writer Luke Winn combined to come up with their selections for the best starting five in the country.

    G: Jimmer Fredette, Sr. BYU
    G: Nolan Smith, Sr., Duke
    G: Jacob Pullen, Sr., Kansas State
    F: Harrison Barnes, Fr., North Carolina
    F: Kyle Singler, Sr., Duke

    The Aggies were just lucky that Jimmer was a little off tonight, or it would have been a double-digit win for the Cougars. Last year, Jimmer shot 44% from 3-point. Tonight he only shot 36%.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:20 p.m.

    Despite the referees' best efforts, the Cougars won.

    The game was a good, hard-fought game. But serious about the officating, what on earth were they doing? There were bad calls and no-calls everywhere for both teams (although I wouldn't hesitate to say the bad calls favoring USU outnumbered the ones favoring BYU about 4 to 1). USU was better than I thought. I would like to see better shooting by the Cougars. That wasn't their best.

  • PJ Logan, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:18 p.m.

    I was very surprised at the poor free throw shooting by Utah State, we're usually in the top 5 in the country in FT% but unfortunatly tonight they left 11 points on the line and in a six point game that was the difference. Cougars didn't beat USU, the Aggies beat themselves but we'll rebound Saturday. Go Aggies.

  • Proud to be American West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:11 p.m.

    Sorry folks, but BYU again proves why they will not go anywhere this year. They cast up way too many three pointers, and their lack of discipline in their shot selection is unbelievable.

    BYU will get through their standard NIT or first round NCAA calibur season with an over-hyped guard that chucks up terrible shots all over the place.

    Mark my words on that.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:10 p.m.

    Worst call you've ever seen?

    Come on, Tin Man!

    Wesley clearly swung his elbows and the rule is you don't even have to make contact in order to be whistled for a flagrant foul if you swing your elbows.

    Every high school player knows that.

    BYU 22, one player disqualified, two with four
    USU 23, one player disqualified, two with four

    If it makes you feel better to blame the refs, knock yourself out. The truth is, the officiating dead even.

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:09 p.m.

    Utah State plays a real tough, physical, half court style. Pretty much the antithesis of BYU, so it makes for a battle of wills whenever these two teams meet. It was a good game and the refs blew quite a few calls both ways. Not to mention the horrible announcers...Ugh please let the torture from the mtn end soon!!

    Jimmer forced a few too many tonight. He started out hot but at least made some good passes in the second half. Hartsock was a beast. Great rebounding and blocks tonight.

    Wesley plays hard and has great low post moves, but he did throw Jimmer to the ground in the first half and those elbows were up too high. Collinsworth is lucky he didn't got hit harder. I don't think he intentionally swung at Collinsworth, but Collinsworth wasn't really trying to tie him up, he was trying to get back on defense. There was no need for Welsey to try and clear space by swinging his elbows like that.

    Either way I'm glad that Green kid finally missed and the Cougars pulled it out.

  • tron527 Provo, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 10:07 p.m.

    Was the referee a BYU alumni, probably not but you never know. The MWC already had to change one sport because of BYU this year :) Anything less than the sweet 16 from this team will be a major disappointment, they are really good.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:59 p.m.

    Tough, hard-fought game for both teams. Wesley needs to learn to not swing his elbows after a rebound. Lots of ticky-tack fouls called on both teams.

    Utah State is going to have an excellent season.

    The Aggies were fortunate that BYU shot so miserably from 3-point range.

    It's too bad this game couldn't have been played a month later. Both teams are still working out a lot of the early season kinks.

    Congrats Cougars!

    A tough early season test passed.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:51 p.m.

    This is a very good Utah State team with an inside and outside presence. This team will be a major factor in the WAC.

  • Tin Man Layton, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:48 p.m.

    First let me say that I fully acknowledge that free throws and offensive rebounds cost USU the game...but that was the worst call I've ever seen. The elbow call was weak, but the extra free throws? And BYU students, try and invent some of your own cheers...

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:47 p.m.

    Way to go Cougars. Great game with USU and both teams played very well. Difference in this game and last years game was home court advantage. If it was in the Spectrum, likely a different outcome.

  • JapanCougar Apo, AP
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:45 p.m.

    Great win for the Y! We looked good, but need to try to get some more touches in the paint.
    Utah State will be a very good team this year. I was really impressed with Tai Wesley. His brother was a great player for BYU.
    Good luck Aggies, hope you win out the rest of the season.

  • catram North Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:38 p.m.

    Sweeet. Trust me, that Utah State team is very good. We were lucky to get a win tonight. Roll Cougs!!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:33 p.m.

    Great game BYU! Great win! Thanks usu for getting votes to up BYU's ranking next week. Never doubted for a second BYU would lose. They close out games so well, especially at home. Utah now has to deal with their fans....glad BYU is done with them! They'll probably storm the court if they beat Utah. LAME!

    Can't wait to play Utah later...BYU's only rival.

  • Ogden Aggie Ogden, UT
    Nov. 17, 2010 9:31 p.m.

    It is sad to see the refs taint what was such a close, hard fought game with 2:04 remaining. Let the boys play ball. Either way, look for the Aggies to go on a crazy win streak from here on out that will be capped off with a big win at Georgetown. Go State!!!