Deficit panel pushes Demos, GOP

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  • USA Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 10:24 p.m.

    If President Obama's commission's proposals actually get approved and implemented as written, he may be one of the greatest presidents in the history of the country. We pray for his success.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 4:09 p.m.

    I agree with other comments on this board: vote out any politician that won't vote for these recommendations or other similar recommendations. American citizens need a clear-cut, well defined plan proposed by our government for getting us out of debt over a defined period of time. If someone votes against the plan, get them out of office.

    We the People must stand up and take charge. We must be informed. We must vote. We must be involved in the process by letting our representatives and senators hear us. Of course getting our country back onto solid financial footings will be painful. But everyone knows what will happen if we don't make these changes.

    "Change", now that is an interesting word that we heard a lot of from our president 2 years ago. We know the kind of "change" he was talking about now, don't we? He is the exact opposite of what this country needs. Barack will expand government, increase spending, and enslave everybody.

    Barack has got to go.

  • unaffiliated_person Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 1:45 p.m.

    For those who think this will put a dent in...look at the pie chart of federal expenditures. Most of the money goes to Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, Defense, and that order. The rest of the federal government is a tiny sliver. Entitlement spending is where we need to focus in the long term. It is not sustainable.

  • first2third Elmo, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 11:39 a.m.

    $3 in cuts for every $1 in tax increases. I like it a lot. Grover's comments are spot on. The problem is these recommendations are needed and responsible, so they won't be enacted. Pelosi "The commissions recommendations give us a non starter." That comment alone tells the nation why she led her party out of power. They wont even talk about fiscal responsibility.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 10:48 a.m.

    The far-right hates it, the far-left hates it. It must be okay.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 10:38 a.m.

    You need to remember that the "debt commission" was something created by this Pres. The "raising taxes part" will MOST LIKELY HAPPEN. Not so much with the "cutting government part"!

    Americans don't mind paying for essential services, what we DO MIND though, is seeing mass amounts of waste, higher than average salaries for federal employees, sending OUR TAX DOLLARS to the U.N. directly, and supporting illegal aliens INDIRECTLY.

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Nov. 12, 2010 8:36 a.m.

    This commission is spot on. I will not vote for anyone who opposes the ideas put forward by this commission. We as a nation are living way beyond our means. In 2009 we had a $1.4 Trillion dollar deficit.

    It is absolutely impossible to have a balanced budget without cutting something from everything, military, social security, medicare, and medicaid. I like lower taxes, but I'd be willing to pay a little bit more in taxes if it means the governments has strict rules and laws that require it to live within a budget.

    I'm so sick of the government talking head politicians, that just dance around the topics to get reelected and never solve anything.

    Quite frankly if you aren't willing to consider, work on, and support this proposal you don't belong in office. This is what are representatives are paid for.

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 8:29 a.m.

    I like what this commission is coming up with. Hard choices have to be made. As a nation we need to grow a spine, turn down the rhetoric a notch, and move forward.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Nov. 12, 2010 8:26 a.m.

    Hopefully the Deficit panel pushes Demos, GOP off a cliff soon.

    Conservatives are the conservators, or conservationists, with regard to the Constitutional government, and make all policy decisions based on the dictates of the principle that these few delegated powers are all that the federal government is allowed to do, and anything beyond this is unconstitutional, unless the GOP fully intends to stay involved, interested in money, greed, corruption, above the law, (ignore us common people unless they need your votes while re-campaigning again), career politician's who will take money from any special interest and say or do anything to keep his hold on power. It's secret government by the insiders, for the insiders only today. That's for BIG BUSINESS "ONLY" and their deep pocket's.

    Liberals are those who constantly push the limits of the national government's constitutional mandate, to include powers that are specifically prohibited. Leftists fall into this category because everything they attempt to impose is specifically prohibited by the Constitution.

    In 2008 we had to think about living within our means, paying cash for purchases, and purchasing what we need, if we had anything left.

  • pat1 Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 7:54 a.m.

    Well, our debt problems cannot solely be blamed upon the current administration. Any country who fights too many overseas wars is bound to incur a lot of debt. How much did the Iraq war and its follow-on policing as well as the war in Afganistan cost us?

    Our job problems began 20-25 years ago when we went for cheap labor overseas and became a service economy. WE decided to end manufacturing here, with disastrous results.

    There is enough blame in our current situation for everyone, which is why the Tea Partiers annoy me so much.

    I can see that younger people in my family are beginning to think about living within their means, paying cash for purchases, and purchasing what they need instead of what they want and doing without. They also know now that bad times happen. (duh) That's a good start. Too bad it took a national economic crisis for them to think this way.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 7:26 a.m.

    Once again, serious proposals that hold up a mirror to the size of the mess we are in are called everything but serious by those who have to go on record voting for them and then try to get reelected. Both parties know that cutting anything has a peril, where borrowing to pay is what sells to the public. BOTH parties made the mess (at our urging) now let's see them act like statesmen and women and put real proposals on the table if these are not workable. The election is over, the time for governing is here.

  • dave4197 Redding, CA
    Nov. 12, 2010 7:20 a.m.

    The article's leading lines miss a key point of this commission, whacking military spending. Simpson and Bowles are spot on. Our foreign military bases are an extreme waste of money, the cold war has long ended and these people are our friends. End our Korean occupation, the troops never stopped the one problem there, old man Kim, now South Korea is on its own 2 feet economically, remove our troops. And work on diplomatic solutions to the Korea problem, and we've demonstrated we can act militarily if necessary without remote bases.

    The debt reduction plan proposes some very small changes to social security, that are badly needed. Because we are living longer, and we're not paying enough into ss. Means test all recipients of ss, we don't need to supplement those people who already have ample income. Make capital gains income subject to fica, and remove the upper limit upon which we pay fica. Yes it's income redistribution, a time honored policy since Robin Hood, it's a good thing.

    Got more ideas too, when you're wealthy you better be generous. Stop the military industrial complex already.

  • sniggy Payson, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 7:17 a.m.

    Alan Simpson (give us a break) Cut Congress pay and Pensions. Social Security has already been cut by no increases. A 15 cent added federal gas tax a joke?
    Cut administration in all Government. Alan go back to Wyoming dude.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 6:56 a.m.

    Cut social security, cut public television and other entitlement programs. We're not entitled to anything, especially those who don't work from their own laziness.

    We need to make being unemployed a little more painful to make going back to work a better plan than living on welfare.

    I would rather stop paying into social security and invest that money on my own. Currently social security gurantees or predicts 75 cents back on every dollar I invest with them. That's just 25% loss of my money. Or I can invest that money into the market and get a 10% return. I would rathe grow my money instead of losing 25% and then some to the federal government. I could have had my house paid for if it weren't for that tax.