Dick Harmon: True freshmen QBs are mostly struggling

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  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 12:15 p.m.

    Wow I am agreeing with Hedge Hog weird.

    Heaps has been forced down our throats this year. The coach's started down the slippery path and now changing course this late in the season would expose there blunder.

    Unchecked pride always produces mediocrity.

    "POLY" Cougar Nation

  • BYU Blue 2003 Waco, TX
    Nov. 11, 2010 7:22 p.m.


    ...but instead you're robbing the stat sheet of all other passes that would have been a completed DURING THE DRIVE. (Dropped passes are literally drive killers.)

  • BYU Blue 2003 Waco, TX
    Nov. 11, 2010 7:20 p.m.

    Here's something to chew on. If Heaps had been given the preponderance of reps during Fall practice, as he should have been, and if the Cougar receivers had actually been able to catch the ball most of the season, he would be much higer on this list. What some forget is that when a pass is dropped, you aren't just robbing the team and QB of the actual yardage that would have been gained by a completed pass, but instead you're robbing the stat sheet of all other passes that would have been a completed. It's an exponential loss of yardage and potential TD passes, not a strictly cummulative one. Those who bash Heaps obviously haven't taken these things into consideration. He'll be great with some more experience and added confidence.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 5:33 p.m.

    Why will Jake Heaps be a great QB?

    Work Ethic.

    --Jake has been putting in the time going to QB camps and training since he was TEN years old. He has devoted his whole life to being the best he can be as a QB and a person. This work ethic was obviously portrayed throughout his high school career, leading his team to 3 straight state championships. And a #1 Scout.com ranking at the QB position. Not to mention the prestigious Elite 11 QB camp MVP Award.
    As a true freshman Jake has been required to make some huge adjustments to his game, and he has taken it all in stride. He is staying after practice working with receivers and doing his best to improve. Next season will be an eye opener. Mark it down.

    Everyone who is intent on tearing down a great kid who is doing his best. You are pathetic.

    By this time next year he will be a top 10 QB in the nation. MARK THAT DOWN!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Nov. 11, 2010 5:02 p.m.

    I agree with other posts.

    Heaps should not have recieved more than a 2 star rating.

    I'm sure UW is breathing a sigh of relief to have nott thrown away a scholarship on a player who would have road the bench i the PAC12

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 11, 2010 3:39 p.m.

    How many stars did Steve Young have coming out of high school?

    Texas Longhorns are full of star studded players and share the same record with the cougs. They lost to Baylor, Kansas State, and Iowa State.

    What about star studded Notre Dame? Same win/lost record. Southern Cal is struggling and they're team out starred Oregon.--Neveda are winning without starred players.

    Star ratings are not very accurate.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 3:38 p.m.

    There are alot of things you "don't see". Doesn't mean they aren't there or won't happen. Open your eyes and your mind. It is highly likely that Jake Heaps will be one of the top 3 QB's of his class in the country when he graduates. Great athletes and coaches lead to successful teams. Great QB's lead them.

    Too bad you don't get a vote to determine the star rating of high school athletes. Only those who know how to rate them without bias do.
    I must write your comments off as jealousy.

  • ucfmike Orlando, FL
    Nov. 11, 2010 3:04 p.m.

    Guys use some common sense. Taylor Martinez is a redshirt freshman and should obviously be left off a list comprising only TRUE freshmen. Also, the QB for oregon (#1 team in the country), Darron Thomas is a SOPHMORE. Neither of these players are true freshmen. Get a grip.

    Go UCF, Jeffrey Godfrey is the best freshman QB in the country.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Nov. 11, 2010 1:04 p.m.


    Because including Martinez in the analysis would lead to one of the following two conclusions:

    1. The talent around BYU doesn't "reload" as Bronco claims nor is it on par with the other programs, under Bronco BYU is the 4th mid-major in developing NFL talent.

    2. Heaps wasn't really a 5 star but more around 3-4 range.

    Both would go against the DH narrative so why bring up Martinez.

  • bluecougarfan Syracuse, NY
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:44 p.m.

    I agree with Pavalova, why isn't Taylor Martinez from Nebraska in this article???

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:32 p.m.

    Some people in Ann Arbor, MI consistently have blinders on and still think the Utes will be NC 2010.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:25 p.m.

    the number one team in the country seems to have a freshmen qb too if i'm not mistaken

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 11, 2010 11:23 a.m.

    What about Taylor Martinez at Nebraska. He's a freshman and he's tearing it up.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 10:36 a.m.

    hedgehog | 7:13 a.m. Nov. 11, 2010
    Ann Arbor, MI
    I wonder if Dick would have written this article if the BYU QB had a ranking better than 100.

    I don't see Heaps being any better than average in his college career.
    I agree with the first part...
    Second part--You must not understand football. He clearly has everything a qb needs except experience and time with his receivers. He will be great by his junior year and very good next year.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Nov. 11, 2010 9:00 a.m.

    Heaps is showing improvement every game. His arm is obviously very strong. He has a lot of poise and is showing positive leadership. Many of his interceptions have come when BYU has been forced to throw because they have been behind in many of their games. I don't know if Heaps will be great, but he will definitely be very good. His upside is incredible.

  • Mr. Obvious Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 11, 2010 8:57 a.m.

    Gridiron battle results will always go to the Air game.
    Advantage Colorado State.

  • TizTheSeason logan, utah
    Nov. 11, 2010 8:20 a.m.

    And the purpose of this article?
    It would have been more interesting if DH would have used the same outline for each QB to see a better comparison. I think that some of these, though "True Freshman" have had a positive impact on their team.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Nov. 11, 2010 7:13 a.m.

    I wonder if Dick would have written this article if the BYU QB had a ranking better than 100.

    I don't see Heaps being any better than average in his college career.