High school sports: Highland's move to 3A highlights realignment debate

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  • VB Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 6, 2010 12:37 p.m.

    If it all is because we have to keep the southern schools in the same region for "Travel" so therefore the 3A numbers are a joke, We should just split the state into 2 states... Utah and Not Utah then u can have the UHSAA and the NUHSAA I think that solves it! ha

  • mcshooter23 Wellsville, UT
    Nov. 21, 2010 12:21 p.m.

    Oh noooo!! Logan is staying in 4A....Looks like they will never get a state championship again.

  • WeberCatBasketballFan Midway, UT
    Nov. 18, 2010 4:24 p.m.

    Funny that there were a couple of comments about Orem and Highland winning all the state championships. Hilarious that someone said Orem will win the next three basketball titles. A quick history lesson, just last year Wasatch beat Orem by 26 in basketball and beat Timpview (the eventual 4A champs). Juan Diego beat Springville, who is in the 4A state title game, in football! There is no way these schools will compete with Juan Diego in baseball or Judge and Park City in swimming or tennis. Probably have a tough go against Park City in cross country. Obviously, they don't have a chance in wrestling.

  • bulldog72 Holladay, UT
    Nov. 16, 2010 4:55 p.m.

    Westlake#1 fan

    Cmon, those schools have been around a long time. What an insult to say that you've never heard of them. Let's line up all of the people in this state who have never heard of Westlake...I will bet that it's WAY more than people who have not heard of Hillcrest, Murray, and Cyprus combined!

  • footballisgood Holladay, UT
    Nov. 16, 2010 4:53 p.m.

    HIJrod - you may want to correct yourself on that Kingsford comment, since Larry Wilson came in and did a pretty dang good job following him (and, if I recall, had WAY more success against Skyline). I don't want to get in to comparing the two cause they were both good, but this is certainly not a nosedive. In fact, I think that they got better when Wilson stepped in for Kingsford

  • SLC gal Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 15, 2010 7:06 a.m.

    Do they realize that West in 5A and East in 4A broke one of the hottest high school rivalries in the state????? And I belive this also means an end for "Outclass Highland" week at East???... Can't believe I'm now sighing for the "good ol' days".

    Go Leopards!!!!!

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    Nov. 14, 2010 8:38 p.m.

    Well 'ExTBird' the smaller schools in this state that are far from the major populations, only have the students that are in thier comunitties. If there are only 300 students ALL the boys that want to, play football. 6' 5", 250 lb boys are rare among us. There are no tryouts these boys are all we have. Yes talent is talent no matter the class, but when there are only 20 kids on the team there are no backup players.

  • ExTBird Springville, US-UT
    Nov. 14, 2010 3:41 a.m.

    Why do some of you people insist on acting like the "A" rating system has anything to do with how skilled your team is? Copper Hills is 5A and 0-10, Granger is 5A and 1-9, Roy is also 1-9. Should we move them all to 1A for being terrible? Or should we move Duchesne (1A school) to 5A for being 11-1?

    Bottom line is that Highland qualifies for 3A based entirely off the schools population. It doesn't matter in the slightest if they take the 4A title this year or not. Highland fans need to seriously get over themselves. This new system is not a insult to your school, or your teams ability in the slightest. It's not the Board of Trustees fault that you tie the "A" rating system directly to your egos. Also acting like your players now have less chance of going to college is a completely baseless assumption. Talent is talent and scouts don't care if it comes from 5A or 1A.

  • HIJrod Kaunakakai, Hi
    Nov. 13, 2010 9:14 p.m.

    Public of Utah please show up to the public hearing on Wednesday November 17th to put a stop to these foolish alignments! How is Logan to Provo a good travel plan? That is 2 hours to and 2 hours back. Why is 5A the only one that makes the most sense? Does it really even matter? I mean really? In an era of furloughs why are you forcing schools to spend more money on sporting costs? I say give it a try, a one year trial and if it doesn't work change it back!

  • HIJrod Kaunakakai, Hi
    Nov. 13, 2010 8:52 p.m.

    I'm glad to see that some of the misnomers about Highland's strength in things other than football were previously addressed! Seems to me that the Rams have actually been to Basketball State a few times recently. More so than during the tenure of what's his face (80's-90's). After Kingsford the football team kind of took a nose dive for a while. This was written before Highland crushed Springlville 46-21. There are some teams that could make it tough for Highland in 3A. How many of those do they play before state though? How many of them would have beaten 5A Skyline?

  • 4A Tennis Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 5:05 p.m.

    FYI Highland took state in TENNIS last year...

  • Just my opinion Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 4:26 p.m.

    Alignment Part Two:


    Region 5 - Skyview, Logan, Moutain Crest, Roy, & Bonneville

    Region 6 - Clearfield, Bountiful, Woods Cross, West, East, & Highland

    Region 7 - Skyline, Olympus, Murray, Hillcrest, Herriman, & Westlake

    Region 8 - Timpanogos, Mountain View, Timpview, Provo, & Salem Hills

    The following are the changes from the alignment the UHSAA has listed. Region 5 none, Region 6 add West and Highland, and move Skyline and Olympus to Region 7. Cyprus moved up to 5A for West, and Timpanogos moves down to Region 8. Region 8 adds Timpanogos and drops Springville to 3A.

    Lowers travel on average 4.5 miles per team per school for the whole classification. Big winners - Highland: less 100.23 miles per trip, Timpanogos: less 41.89 miles per trip, Cyprus in 5A: 27.54 miles less per trip, Hillcres: less 13.25 miles per trip. Biggest losers: Springville: increase 51.53 miles per trip,


  • Just my opinion Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 4:17 p.m.


    Mapquest directions for all these schools and you will see that the over all travel will be less for more schools with the below listed classifications and regions then the one the UHSAA came out with for the hearing next week (yes some schools travel goes up, but they go up way less then others go down. So it's still a positive towards lowering the travel for all schools combined). The classifications and regions I list below only change schools that the UHSAA listed as bubble teams anyways. Keeps the rest in the classification they where put in.


    Region 1 - Weber, Fremont, Syracuse, Northridge, Layton, & Davis

    Region 2 - Viewmont, Cyprus, Granger, Hunter, Taylorsville, Kearns

    Region 3 - Cottonwood, Brighton, West Jordan, Copper Hills, Jordan, & Alta

    Region 4 - Bingham, Riverton, Lone Peak, Lehi, American Fork, & Pleasant Grove.

    The only change to 5A is Cyprus in place of West. This make almost no difference in travel for 5A (a 0.66 miles difference per school, per trip). But see the positive effect having West in 4A has to travel for them.


  • AKR-TK Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 1:50 p.m.

    Does it sound right to have a Highland football team in the 4-A Championship game this year dropping down to 3-A? They just dominated Springville in the semi-final and Springville ran over every one in 3-A with the exception of Juan Diego. Think about the size of your kids stacking up against a Highland team that is a lot bigger, deeper and skilled. If our starter goes out we turn to a 125 pound sophomore. Football will take on the biggest impact of size difference. It will not get kids hurt.

  • HSCOACH Heber City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2010 12:32 p.m.

    Your proposal might cut travel for 2 schools but it triples the travel for 6 schools. But I know; 3A doesn't count.

  • MantiCoug Manti, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 11:26 p.m.

    What an absolute joke! North Sanpete, Juab, & Delta in a region with Spanish Fork and Orem?!?!?! Put these small rural schools (NS, Juab, Delta) together in 2A along with Emery, Manti, Richfield, Gunnison, South Sevier, etc...
    City schools have an advantage over rural schools. Keep rural schools in the same classification.

  • IntheUC10 Lehi, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 7:35 p.m.

    Lehi back in 5A? Really??? They just split off Westlake and are still finding a their stride as a 4A school again. And Viewmont not even in the mix in Davis Co.? Shows that even the numbers don't tell the whole story. Once again, the schools who are on top, get to stay on top and the principles turn a blind eye to transfers.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 6:43 p.m.

    Why putting Springville in 3-A is better than Highland?

    1) If Springville goes 3-A it still has traditional rivals like Spanish Fork and Payson in its league along with Orem. Highland will have no traditional rivals in its league, except maybe Judge nearby, which is a stretch.

    2) If Springville goes 3-A it will travel a bit more with two teams in its league outside of Utah County. But the furthest journey would be to Delta around 50 miles. If Highland goes 3-A they will have to go to Vernal and Roosevelt, 180 and 150 miles respectively.

    3) By keeping Highland 4-A you can create a league where Timpanogos can be shifted to a region with Utah County teams. This decreases travel now for a third party. If Springville moves to 3-A Carbon is shifted to the region Highland is now assigned.

    Since the UHSAA seems dead set on its 24/24/28 model for the top 3 classifications, understandably tough decisions must come about. But to me, the most logical is to keep Highland 4-A as it will drastically reduce travel for two schools (Highland and Timpanogos) vs. one.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Nov. 11, 2010 6:04 p.m.

    In Texas you can ask to move up a classification for sports. So if you are a 3A powerhouse, you can move up to 4A with a simple request.

  • DaCougz Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 4:56 p.m.

    UHSAA has been pretty open with the details leading up to the region and classification realignment for several months. Go to their web site and look at the power point from August along with the school poulation numbers poasted last week.

    We knew the number of schools per classification and that school 11th and 12th grade enrollment numbers this year would be the main criteria to allocate schools.

    I'd have done a couple of things differently, (re: Highland -> Region 6, Olympus -> Region 7, Timpanogas -> Region 8, Springville -> Region 11, Carbon -> Region 10) but it's time to live with the realignment.

    We know that two years from now things will change again.

  • Westlake#1Fan Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 4:48 p.m.

    Hillcrest, Murray and Cyprus?!?! I've never even heard of those schools! Where are they? Plus, why separate the three schools in Orem into 3 different regions? BOGUS.

  • Dr Rush Saint George, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 4:37 p.m.

    Well you have to empathize with the UHSAA because they figured it out 17 different ways, and each time they figured it,it was no good,because no matter how they figured it,somebody didn't like the way they figured it,So now, theres only one way to figure it,And that is every school for themselves, So good luck and may the best school win, Except for Hurricane of course...their never happy....:))Their you go GDOT

  • exhighland/union Roosevelt, Utah
    Nov. 11, 2010 3:24 p.m.

    I'm not on here saying that Highland is going to dominate 3A because I know some of those schools in the south are just as good and should be 4A along with Highland. But I played in a region with Union, Uintah, Park City, Wasatch and then transfered into highland for my junior and senior year and I'm telling you that the talent level I experienced was tremendous. I have followed Region 10 these past few years and always keep an eye on Highland and I have no doubt in my mind that Highland will be the favorite in boys sports in Football, Basketball and high in Baseball in this region. I however am excited for a Highland @ Union Football game!

  • first2third Elmo, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 2:30 p.m.

    The number of teams in the given classifications is what I question. 24 in 4A and 5A, 28 in 3A, 20 in 2A. Why not 24 in each and drop N. Sanpete and Delta? Or why not 28 in 5A and 4A and include some of the 1A schools in 2A? Oh wait, I see, this is all about keeping the Southern teams in the same classification. Never mind all my equal the playing field talk. It is not about competitiveness or number of students. It is about which schools have the most clout. 2A and 1A are after thoughts. Look at 1A Football what are there 6 total teams and one will be state champ???

  • rick 86 cedar city, utah
    Nov. 11, 2010 2:11 p.m.

    There are a lot of comments about how bad this is for SLC and Utah county. Two years ago St George was complaining, they redrew their boundries and now they are all where they want to be. Call your school board members redraw your boundries and in two years your problems with this realignment will be someone elses.

  • Hon Jensen South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:08 p.m.

    It is strange to see West Jordan in a different region from Bingham. But WJ hasn't beat Bingham in football since the 3OT victory in 2001. Since then Bingham has stomped them year in year out.(although WJ gave them a good first half this year)

    Maybe some time off will do the Jaguars good, just like when Olympus and Skyline took some time off from each other.

  • kbdayton Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:06 p.m.

    I think they should have added 8 more teams to 5a and 8 to 4a (32 each total, 4 regions of 8) they still take only 4 teams (half) of each region to the playoffs. It seems WAY more logical to me. This is a cluster for teams like Lehi, Spanish Fork, all Orem Schools, etc...

  • Boo Ya!!! SLC, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 10:50 a.m.

    Just to show how STUPID this all is...

    We want to reduce travel and align with geography blah, blah, blah

    SO RIchfield goes 2A and drives past North Sevier, Gunnison, and Manti to get to a "region" game in Emery AND NONE of the three they passed through are in their region.


    And the 3A stuff is an absolute JOKE!!! Hey, the-powers-that-be, need to start fixing the system instead of 5A & 4A. 3A has always got the shaft. HEY GUYS...you are on the right track, just even out the RATIO's at the top, make 4-8 team regions in 5A & 4A and see what happens.

    Yep....politics as usual.

  • the-buzz Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 10:42 a.m.

    Most think the Highland change was the bad one and I agree. Factor in past competitive performance and it would be better. Wished they would have put Cyrus and Highland in region 6 instead of Skyline and Olympus. It isn't all about the numbers, nor the travel, especially if they were talking 5 or 10 miles ultimately being the determining factor, it's also about how competitive they are and that should be a factor. Tradition determines how good they are in many cases and this current formula doesn't.

    Two years between review is much better than 4 years, less damage!

  • Dejac West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 8:49 a.m.

    Region 4 looks like it will be fun to follow for the next couple of years in most sports. Regions 1 and 3 look soild, but 2 will be weak come playoff time.
    Hope Herriman, Bingham, Riverton will play each other still. I think that can become a fun 3 way rivalry.
    Not having West Jordan and Bingham in the same region for the first time in 30 years looks strange also. I hope that that game will still happen as well, but I know it will be hard.
    Hope Riverton enjoyed all those 2nd place finishes in football because now they will be fighting just to get in the next two years. Maybe they should have whined harder this time around also.

  • RD1025 Springville, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 8:46 a.m.

    To Mary-Cate and POD: Getting recruited for college has nothing to do with what classification you play in. Just look at any of the sports rosters from any university in Utah, and you will see athletes from all over the state. As far as the decision being Mr. Cluff's. I believe it was Highland's principal who was one of the people who came up with the formula for realignment.

  • Mary-Cate cedar city utah, 847320
    Nov. 11, 2010 8:17 a.m.

    This change for Highland is absolutely ridiculous. Highland has dominated this region and has even beaten been able to beat 5A schools such as beating Skyline 5 years in a row. They have made it to the championships and are very respected in their region. The athletes at Highland have been successfully recruited to many schools and lowering their division will greatly decrease their opportunities to play at a good college level. This decision belongs to the school not Mr. Cluff, they have the support of the principals and community.
    Where does the rivalry lie in this change? The East Highland rivalry has been recognized for decades, the Skyline Highland rivalry has also been known and supported. Now the rival is going to be Judge? No way. Their commute is longer so I don't know what you are talking about.. I hope they are happy with their decision and I hope Highland will be able to dominate 3A and continue to produce NFL football players. Good Luck Highland Athletics!

  • POD Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 7:16 a.m.

    I've read through these comments and it seems clear to me that 3 Orem schools in 3 different classifications, 3 SLC schools in 3 different classifications and Viewmont not playing anyone in Davis county tells me that the formula was just wrong. Theres more to high school sports than simply numbers. As a formula, this is E= Mc³.

    Beyond sports, however, the effect on the Salt Lake District, particularly Highland will be devastating. No aspiring athlete will play for a 3A school. The population of the school will continue to dwindle and the schools closing seems a real possibility. Even two years of this will destroy any Highland sports program and, if numbers are the only criterion, it will never come back to 4A. Failure to consider this will lead to disaster.

  • Proud to be American West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 5:19 a.m.

    Bingham and Riverton were slated to go south last time around, and then Riverton whined at the meeting until the UHSAA switched it over.

    Putting Bingham and Lone Peak in the same region is the right thing to do. Both schools are always good in sports due to the fact that both have larger numbers than most as well as great socio-economic areas to draw from.

    The fourth place teams in the state tourney that draw Region 2's first place team will have a very legitimate chance to pull off an upset in the state tourney. Region 2 teams would have a hard time competing in 4A, let alone 5A.

    I like the regions as they are proposed all things considered, now let's leave them as they are this time around instead of pulling crazy last minute changes like last time around.

  • sky2k1 Saint George, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 1:41 a.m.

    I love how everyone has the "best solution" to this situation. It's more like your best solution, and what you like most. Problem is, they have to try and make the whole state work, not just Provo or Salt Lake. I'm sure it's difficult to take (being from St. George we had realignment issues too) but by going off numbers it takes away the arguments of playing favorites. So let's all just shut up, and let the kids play ball. Sometimes I think we forget that it's not us out there.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 1:14 a.m.


    You will be very, very surprised next year.

  • Gdot-aka-whitelightning Roberts Ranch, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:51 a.m.

    Nahh man. Hurricane will take the 3A title in basketball. :) A 39-9 record the past two years isnt too shabby either :)

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Nov. 11, 2010 12:22 a.m.

    Re: Big Hapa .. obviously we can read and the desnews edited the story to include Alta.

    People .. if you go to the UHSAA website you can see the enrollment numbers they used to classify teams. They did as good as they possibly could IMO. The great thing about this new alignment process is that it will be implemented quicker and will only last 2 yrs before it's re-evaluated.

  • jasper99999 Eagle Mountain, ut
    Nov. 10, 2010 11:55 p.m.

    Sky View and Mountain Crest moving to 4A? Thought they already were 4A. As a Westlake fan, I wont enjoy the extra traveling to Cyprus, Murray and Hillcrest, but have to like being in a region where the other teams were a combined 18-33 this year.

  • ExTBird Springville, US-UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 10:54 p.m.

    After watching the Timpview vs Springville game I am really happy to see Springville stay 4A. I can't wait for next years match up against these two amazing football programs.

    I have great respect for the Highland team as well but even if they some how manage to defeat Springville I just can't imagine the game being as epic. The season basically ended for me when I say Timpview walk off the field totally stunned at the beating they just took. Game of the year hands down. Game of the last few years even!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 8:44 p.m.

    All three Salt Lake schools in different classifications and all three Orem schools in different regions. Only the UHSAA could dream up this stuff.

    Put Highland in 4-A, move Springville to 3-A, move Timpanogos to the region with Provo, TV, MV etc., move Carbon to the region with Uintah and it's a done deal.

    That Region 4 does look like war in sports like football, volleyball and baseball.

  • KSDBN Murray, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 8:26 p.m.

    Orem is gonna win the next 3 state titles in basketball.

  • Tommy Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 8:16 p.m.

    Highland competes regularly in boys basketball and football in 4A with very small numbers (last year semi finalist in basketball, this year semi finalist in football) Add to those small student numbers the fact that a number of students use English as a second language and never partcipate in any sports. it makes the school even smaller for sports.

    It's a credit to the Highland athletes, students adminsitration and community that they do so well with so few numbers.

    3A will be interesting to say the least.

  • KSDBN Murray, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 7:48 p.m.

    Hey no name...you live in Provo...JDUB was referring to YOU as city folk...He is from Nephi...he is the hay bucker...Juab is welcome to come up to the "big city" anytime. Good luck getting out without a 40 point drubbing.

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2010 7:22 p.m.

    3A sports just got a little tougher! Having Sp.Fork and the southern schools together for baseball will be interesting. There are 10 schools now in 3A that played 4A this year. Regions 10 and 12 look the toughest. I hate to burst your bubble Highland, but you're not going to win everything, especially the big sports, boys or girls! As for traveling to Vernal, being from Wasatch, we've done it for years, and it does suck, especially in winter. Going through Strawberry in a blinding snow storm makes the outcome of a game seem meaningless! But the fans from Uintah are good people and they have to make the drive more than us so power to them! Looking forward to the renewal of the wrestling rivalry with Uintah.

  • razorback South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 6:51 p.m.

    With smaller regions in 5A, only five region games will be played allowing teams from all regions to schedule as many as 5 non-region games. Plenty of room to still schedule any rivalry games where teams may have been split up in the new alignment.

    I would just hope that teams schedule all non-region games before October so no one gets tempted to cancel a game that they deem meaningless in October.

    I predicted the Viewmont move to R2 but I'll admit that I never saw the Bingham Riverton move to R4 coming.

    I do think the alignment is good for 5A and look to to some good opportunities for quality non-region schedule where teams are willing to go out and do it.

  • HHS fan St. George, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 6:44 p.m.

    Are you kidding me? What sport is Orem good in? It's not football that's for sure. Highland won't win at all sports either. They might compete in some, but you obviously didn't read my previous post.

  • Wildcat Gillet! Woods Cross, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 6:34 p.m.

    re: kiaoraguy
    Timpview WHO?

  • eing6888 South Pasadena, CA
    Nov. 10, 2010 6:22 p.m.

    Awyeaaaaaah!! Go Rams!!!!

  • kiaoraguy Provo, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 6:09 p.m.

    Congrats to all the contributors for the lack of Timpview bashing- I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to blame TV for coercing UHSAA into this mess- I think the cleaning crew accidentally bumped the HS name magnets on the floor and hurriedly threw them back on the board- What a freakin' mess

  • No name Provo, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 5:40 p.m.

    azamatbagatov and ramfan: Are you really going to whine about a sixteen mile bus trip and finally having to travel more?! the smaller classifications from most 3a schools to 1a travel at least an hour to the CLOSEST school. try a 6 hr ONE WAY trip to Monticello or San Juan, plus those schools have to travel to every game. I have no sympathy for you big schools. Welcome to reality. NUGENT/JDUB: I agree. smaller 3a schools get riped off by bigger teams, and all smaller classifications get riped off by private schools. I hope the farm kids take it to the city slickers. We might be from small communities, but we know how to work hard and know what sports are SUPPOSED to be about, and I can tell you you can't buy it or work the system. It's not always about winning, it's about tradition, and being your best.

  • RAM2010 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:57 p.m.

    Highland will do fine in all the sports. They will not take state in every sport like those people a saying but they will challenge in almost all of them. Whoever says that springville is more rounded than Highland is crazy and doesn't know what they are talking about. Highland is consistanly great at Football, basketball, golf, both soccers, tennis, volleyball and cross country! The only sport that will struggle immensly is girls basketball. Do some research before you say things like that.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:45 p.m.

    People, read the article and you would all see Alta listed very first in region 3 focus.

    Interesting alignments, Viewmont no longer is part of any Davis county rivalry or affiliated with Davis County teams at all.

    Bingham actually has some competition, Skyline is a 4A school along with Clearfield and Roy is back down to 4A where they belong.

    Region 1 is now only six teams instead of the 9 it did have. All in all things look more competitive.

  • uintahutefan Vernal, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:36 p.m.

    Hey ramfan, what is your problem with one 335 mile roundtrip to Vernal while Uintah has to travel that much for just about every road games in the winter. Get over it or don't come to Vernal with your whining about the travel.

  • POD Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:32 p.m.

    The heavy reliance on a formula, as a means to avoid hard decisions, has shown only that the formula was inadequate to create a useful competitive environment. Three SLC schools in three different classifications? Moving schools away from traditional rivalries? Expensive, long-distance travel for students during a recession? I heard that the UHSAA considers 700 miles of travel to be essentially the same as no travel. If common sense cannot be used, reduce the number of classifications to 3 and do what the UHSAA says it always wants to do: play where you live.

  • FB_Grandpa Murray, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:29 p.m.

    Not sure why the question on Herriman. They are the 43rd size in 2 grade class enrollment (821) and 36th in 3 grade class enrollment (1422). They are not even at the top of 4A. In two years, they should be at the bottom of 5A and in 6 years should be in the top 5 of 5A. This is a great example and justification of the 2 year realignment issue. It would be nice to have all the numbers posted so that people don't respond out of ignorance but can comment with facts.

  • JHP Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:12 p.m.

    Orem and Highland will win state in every sport every year as long as it is aligned this way.

    Somebody needs to knock some sense into the UHSAA.

  • sid 6.7 Holladay, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 4:04 p.m.

    Highland I kind of understnd but how in the heck does Herriman end up in 4A?

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 3:53 p.m.

    i feel for Lehi in football. Hilcrest coach was worried about kids getting hurt what about the kids at Lehi, they have lost like 29 games in a row wow,wow. IDK what to think.

  • jdub Ephraim, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 3:39 p.m.

    What I am waiting to see is how well the country kids in 3A stack up against the city kids in 3A. Won't that be a great matchup! I hope the video gamers get it handed to them by the hay-buckers.

  • south fan washington, utah
    Nov. 10, 2010 3:31 p.m.

    Every year the best 3a schools are just as good as the best 4a schools and most of the 5a schools in most sports, there are just fewer good schools in 3a.

  • Nugent Delta, Ut
    Nov. 10, 2010 3:25 p.m.

    So what the UHSAA is saying is that schools like Orem and Sp. Fork are pretty much the same size as schools like Sanpete and Delta. I know that not every one can or will be happy with the new realigment, but hasnt these small 3A schools done their time already and dont they deserve a shot at being the Big Dawg in their classification?

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 3:12 p.m.

    Coolbrees and SLC boy,

    Get ready to be embarrassed fellas. Really like Coach Benson and the HHS program, but you won't even be the best in your region. I'm delighted HHS is gonna be in 3A though and I'm sure PV, Hurricane and the rest of Region 12 can't wait to get them on the schedule.

  • ramfan Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2010 3:03 p.m.

    The move to 3A does not guarantee any titles for Highland. It looks like a tough region with PC, JD, Judge and Wasatch. the only guarantee is long distance travel to see the games. I am not looking forward to 335 mile round trip drives to Vernal to watch basketball in the middle of winter.

  • The Short Bus manti, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:58 p.m.

    I can't wait till Manti VS Wasatch Academy when do tickets go on sale I'm sure that will be a sell out. and I agree the North Sanpete Vs Spanish Fork baseball will be one of those nail biters. I wonder has SF even lost as many games over the past 5 years as NS has won. dought it.

  • Timp South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:39 p.m.

    yea, that's pretty funny having 3 Orem schools in 3 different regions.

  • azamatbagatov Lehi, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:29 p.m.

    I think it is ridiculous to put Timpanogos in a region where the closest school is 16 miles away. You want to take away travel concerns, put Springville in 3A and they can keep their rivalry with SF, and move Highland into Timpanogos' spot, and put Timpanogos in with the UC schools and keep the rivalry with MV.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:28 p.m.

    Really? Putting Orem, Mountain View, and Timpanogos in 3 different regions is the best they can come up with? Time for Alpine School District to realign the boundaries for the high schools in Orem so we have a decent amount of students at each school.

  • 2afan Layton, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:26 p.m.

    I hate to see LCA forced back to 1a and stir up issues that their voluntary move up to 2a had resolved.I hope the board will think this out instead of hiding behind a rigid fomula.

  • johnny pigskin Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:24 p.m.

    How many teams from each region qualify for play-offs in each sport?

  • Dejac West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:23 p.m.

    Region 4 looks strong 1 and 3 look balance 2 looks pretty weak. You can never make everybody happy, but this has been one of the better ways to split the classifcations.
    It will be weird seeing Skyline in a lower classifcation.
    I hope Riverton Bingham and Herriman will keep playing each other for the next two years. That can becomme a fun 3 way rivalry.
    WJ and Bingham not in the same region for the first time in 25 years was werid to see. I hope they can keep playing but making it happen will be hard.

    Next 2 years should be fun to watch in all 4A,5A sports.

  • shadow Midway, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:21 p.m.

    Highland will not win a title in any sport 3A, 3A has beat a lot of top 4A schools and Highland isn't the best in 4A the ONLY sport they will win their region in is Football and that is touch and go with PC, and Wasatch. They don't have a chance in basketball, definetly not baseball,wrestling, and soccer. Girls sports I am not sure how they rank. Don't be embarrased when you don't win against 3A teams just be humbled like Springville was this year when Juan Diego beat them in football and when Wasatch beat them in Basketball last year. 3A is tough and will be a challenge for them especially if they have a chip on their shoulders when they go into the new alignment then you will be humbled for sure.

  • Ernest T. Zass Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:20 p.m.

    Looking forward to that huge Spanish Fork vs. North Sanpete baseball rivalry.

  • TCnewsie Tooele, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:14 p.m.

    I really don't know why the Highland principal is throwing such a tissy. The only sport that Highland is good in is football and boys golf, besides that they are sub-par in the majority of their sports. Springville on the other hand is good in football, softball, both basketball teams and baseball so they have a better rounded sports program overall.

  • johnny pigskin Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 2:11 p.m.

    Region 2 looks a little weak? Other than that it looks pretty good across the board.

  • HHS fan St. George, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:54 p.m.


    Good luck with that prediction. It seems to me Pineview just gave Highland everything they could handle, and they beat Highland last time. Hurricane beat PV pretty convincingly earlier. The new region 12 will dominate.

  • G Felt Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:37 p.m.

    Alta is in Region 3 with Brighton and Jordan. There was discussion about Alta and Jordan staying in Region 4 with the Utah County schools, but it was decided that Bingham and Riverton needed a turn traveling around the Point of the Mountain.

  • SLCBOY Moodys, OK
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:33 p.m.

    The winner of this game should stay in 4A

  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:32 p.m.


    They are taking all three Orem schools and moving them to different regions.

    This would be a complete joke.

  • Lone Peak High School Fan Alpine, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:32 p.m.

    wow bingham and lone peak in the same region... That's going to become a big rival between all sports. They will be fighting for region in everything. I'm sure bingham is happy. Lots more compitition then in the weak region 3. I can't believe spanish fork moved down... They are a 4A school all the way.

  • SLCBOY Moodys, OK
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:27 p.m.

    WOW why would they do that to the RAMS. oh well here comes a bunch of state championships for us

    Go Highland beat springville on friday

  • CoolBrees Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:26 p.m.

    Obviously, they forgot to include Alta in Region 3, which is the only 5A with 5 teams, so Alta would make it 6. Highland should be able to dominate 3A or it will be embarrasing.

  • nts61 South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:24 p.m.

    I like the division of traditional power schools in regions 1, 3 and 4. Hate to see the Bingham, West Jordan rivalry diminished by being in different regions. Is it just me or does region 2 look a little soft?

  • RCR Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:08 p.m.

    Alta is left out. Are they in Region 3?

  • RCR Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:07 p.m.

    So is Alta in Region 3?

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:02 p.m.

    Alta must be getting promoted to the collegiate level.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:01 p.m.

    pretty tough looking region 4