Utah Utes football notebook: Utes say TCU deserves a shot at national title

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  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 10, 2010 1:36 a.m.

    Another year same old story. Last year Ute fans felt that TCU must be the best in the nation because they spanked Utah. Before last year's bowl game Ute fans boldly claimed that BSU had no chance against TCU. Ute fans were clearly wrong last year.

    Likewise, TCU does not have anything over BSU this year. Cruising through the MWC is no more impressive than crusing through the WAC.

    Keep drinking the red kool-aid Utes.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 9, 2010 9:24 p.m.

    PJ, I guess a lot of Utah fans are pulling for TCU since they are in the Mt. West vs. BSU in the WAC. Truth be told BSU is a great team too. I think if either team gets a shot at the NC (and one of them should be) I think they'll win it. Unfortunately there is a good chance that due to a rigged system neither will get the chance and maybe even one of them will be left out of a BCS bowl altogether which would be a serious miscarriage of football justice. I wish both teams well and lets all hope that Auburn or Oregon lose in the mean time to help the situation. Sorry for my earlier unjustified digs on BSU.

  • PJ Logan, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 9:08 p.m.

    Rock, I do mean this year and agree Utah's postseasons make them the best non-AQ from a history standpoint. I'm just curious though, what has TCU done to seperate themselves from Boise? The MWC isn't that much if any better than the WAC this year, similar non-conf. schedule strength and please don't say TCU "would crush" Boise. You guys sound like Nick Saban. I thought all the non-AQ's were on the same team so to speak but I guess not.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 9, 2010 8:04 p.m.

    PJ, really #3 AQ program at best? Maybe this year but overall in terms of what non-AQ teams have done in the post season I would say Utah is the overall #1 non-AQ team. First TCU as great as they are this year has only been to one BCS bowl and lost when it had the chance. BSU has been to two and won both but by very slim margins (no beat downs there). Utah on the other hand while being the first BCS buster also has beat down both teams it played in BCS bowls. BTW, I think TCU should get the nod over an Idaho team; for pete sake, it's Idaho. Go Horn Forgs in the NC game.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 6:59 p.m.

    Ben, I too like the statement that they win with class.

    It makes it a whole lot easier when you have only 150 fans.

    You forget that Gary Patterson called the Muss "obnoxious" in the article before the game.

  • PJ Logan, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 6:07 p.m.

    I don't understand the beef Utah fans have against Boise. The "overrated" chants during Saturday's Gameday while the Boise/Hawai'i game was being highlighted was totally classless. I guess you guys are upset you have the number 3 non-AQ progam at best.

  • UtahBronco Lehi, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 5:56 p.m.

    now Tomahawk, that's just what guys like you said last year before the 2010 Fiesta Bowl - remember?

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 5:36 p.m.

    That's a good one...

    It's easy to discredit your remarks because your hate for the U is very apparent.

    Sorry to bust your hater bubble, but Utah is a great team and they weren't exposed in the least. They will clobber all four teams left this season.

    TCU would clobber BSU too. Sorry, but TCU is far better than BSU this year. You wanna talk about a team who hasn't proved anything this season, its the broncos. Their schedule has been even worse than utahs this year.

  • UtahBronco Lehi, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 5:36 p.m.

    Boise State also has better wins this year over common opponents with TCU (Oregon State and Wyoming).

    I, for one, do believe that BSU would kill the Utes on their home field this year. Too bad the Utes backed out on their scheduled return game to Boise next year. I understand the stated reasons for their backing out but through blue & orange glasses it appears somewhat suspect.

    11/6 Gameday fans, now tell us again who's overrated???

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 5:31 p.m.


    TCU is better than BSU, both this year and in 2006. If TCU got a chance to play BSU again this year, the broncos would be blown out.


  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 12:42 p.m.

    Whitt has always had class as well as most of the Ute players. There a few who post here pretending to be U fans that could take a lesson.
    TCU has had a tougher schedule than BSU and I think they look a little better this year. Both of them should be in BCS games if they don't lose. I would love to see TCU paly Oregon for the title.

  • njustus7 Foster City, California
    Nov. 9, 2010 11:53 a.m.

    If we are looking at last season, we should also look at the one before, basically the only team to beat TCU in the last two years is BSU, but the only team to beat BSU was TCU - so it's a wash. What hurts BSU is the same that hurts TCU right now, you can only prove how good you are by the schedule you have in front of you.

    TCU has a better schedule and beat a solid top 10 team, BSU will not have that opportunity. It's unfair, yes - but it's also the reason TCU is not #1 or #2 in the BCS - which is also unfair. TCU could beat anyone in the nation this year on nuetral field - which is exactly what the NC game is.

    No disrepect to BSU, I wish you guys the best, you belong in a BCS AQ conference just as much as Auburn, and I think it will come in two years with the superconferences. As to the ranking, kho knows, maybe it will be BSU playing TCU in the NC game and we'll finally get a chance to break the tie.

  • njustus7 Foster City, California
    Nov. 9, 2010 11:44 a.m.

    Kyle Whittingham and the Utah players are such a class act, I'm going to miss playing them. They have a better team then what the showed this weekend, I wish them the best in the Pac-10 and will continue to root for them. IF TCU gets a chance to play for the NC, it will largely occur because of the respect the Utes got from *shocking* Alabama.

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 11:40 a.m.

    That's a good one,

    that was LAST year. TCU does not have to prove that they are better by beating boise head to head, they don't play each other. They can prove that they are better by people who watch teh games. Boise would not beat Utah that soundly at home. Sorry, if you think so, you are dreaming.

  • That's A Good One Meridian, ID
    Nov. 9, 2010 11:15 a.m.

    Of course, NC talk aside let's show, by the raise of hands, who will think the BCS system is valid if Boise State goes undefeated, spends EVERY SINGLE WEEK of the season ranked in the top 5 and doesn't get an invite to a BCS bowl as recent prognosticators have alluded?

    Maybe if Boise falls on the sword the BCS will come unravelled once and for all.

  • That's A Good One Meridian, ID
    Nov. 9, 2010 11:10 a.m.

    Big Ben - What does last season have to do with this season? Well, for starters Boise State is almost exactly the same team it was last season when it beat TCU in the Fiesta Bowl. Like TCU Boise State has had an easy schedule this year (uncluding TCU's effertless beatdown of the easy Utes) but has blown out the competition in every instance except Va Tech, where Kellen Moore impressivly pulled out his 2 minute drill skills and won the game.

    I'm not taking anything away from TCU, they're obviously good. But to just replace Boise State in the conversation with TCU is unwarranted until TCU can show that they can beat this Boise State team.

    I think Auburn will lose a game to drop out of the picture but it's a shame that Oregon (who BSU also beat last year), TCU and BSU couldn't be involved in a playoff (assuming they all remain unbeaten) to determine a NC. I'm not saying BSU is "the best" I'm saying they could be as good as TCU and should be allowed to prove it...just like Utah was (although they failed miserably and were exposed)

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 10:07 a.m.

    Well said Coach, as it stands now it's TCU vs. Oregon, not BSU. The bandit school Auburn should not be involved in the NC 2010.

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    Nov. 9, 2010 10:07 a.m.

    Winning with class. Something TDS AND Utah could learn from.Boise State, I've given up on them showing class. Custer, that 2006 team was good, that Fiesta bowl was as god of a game as I've seen but, I was at RES in 2006 and at the game saturday. They put a beat down on a good Utah team (11-1 mark my words) that I haven't seen in 16 years of season tickets. They are outstanding in every phase of the game. They made Utah look bad and I'm still convinced Utah's a decent team. If they don't play in the NC game, it will just prove how bad the BCS is. and we know it's pretty bad.

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2010 8:37 a.m.

    what does last season have to do with anything? Last season is just that, its LAST season. TCU is hands down a top 2 team in the country.

    I also like the statement that they win with class. TCU is in a league of its own.

  • custer Boise, ID
    Nov. 9, 2010 7:40 a.m.

    Coach Whittingham I think has forgotten the Boise State team that totally dominated his Utah team at RES in 2006 by the score of 36-3. The Utes couldn't even score one TD during garbage time. That BSU team went on to an undefeated season including the famous win over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

    How about BSU deserving a shot at the national title? Afterall, the Broncos defeated both TCU and Oregon last season.