BYU football: Losing streak is a first for Cougars

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  • 3genUTE Chicago, IL
    Oct. 4, 2010 12:39 p.m.

    So far I have not been allowed to post on DN BYU blogs because I suggest that Bronco and the LDS church are injecting too much religion into the football program.

    I think that it hurts a very successful program, and disrupts team unity. LaVell Edwards would never have (publicly) talked about his football program and it's success as a part of the LDS church missionary effort. Bronco has, and I suggest that the decision to go independent as a means of getting more airtime for the Church is a disaster for the future of BYU football.

    Now, can this thought be allowed to be debated?

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Oct. 4, 2010 10:00 a.m.

    and many more to come...all I can say!

  • optimist Sun City, CA
    Oct. 4, 2010 12:42 a.m.

    Is this the first time in the past 43 years that we ever had a young team?

    Is it the first time in 43 years that we lost our stars to the NFL or graduation?

    Are we the only team among those like Boise State, TCU, Utah, or even Hawaii, Nevada, Fresno State and Houston, that need to rebuild instead of reload?

    Do we sometimes make too many excuses instead of getting down to the real problem.

    The real problem is that we don't make football important enough to give it our total effort.

    We even list fireside chats as more important than football for our players.

    Is it any wonder why balls bounce off the chest of receivers or out of their hands. Is it any wonder why we make no game time adjustments? Is it any wonder why we don't spend enough tme in film rooms? Can we really blame Hill for the letdown in all areas of our team, starting with the coaches, the receivers, the OC lines and the DL, the kicking, and all else that goes into losing a game? Hill is the scapegoat.
    Truman said, "The Buck stops Here"

  • optimist Sun City, CA
    Oct. 4, 2010 12:22 a.m.

    Sooner or later, after 5 years of hearing that football is not all that important, it seems like the team is starting to believe it.

    Perhaps Hill believed it.

    Perhaps, we should never say those words again.

    Maybe it wasn't Hills fault. Maybe it isn't the teams fault. Maybe everyone involved in the losses and more importantly the attitude on the field, when receivers have perfect passes bounce off their chest or though their hands, is that winning is just not that important.

    Maybe the fact that there are no game time adjustments before half time, shows the attitude, that football is just not that important. That is what we have all heard from our head coach for the past 5 years.

  • sbnjac80 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 10:44 p.m.

    I am still trying to figure out how in the world they are going to beat San Diego State. Look for that streak to go to 6 with losses to San Diego St. and TCU. This will be Bronco's 1st season w/o a bowl appearance. When does basketball season start again?

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 12:35 p.m.

    The very fact that you need to go back 30 years to find historic precedence of a bad season start for the Cougars speaks volumes.

    Pride and the blind stubborn's to hold to the ridicules captivity of the heaped up hyped up leadership put on a boy to lead a team of men, not inexperienced 18 and 19 year old boy's, but men who some are married have kids, etc. simply ridicules.

    The lack of faith and trust that this team has in it's coach's is evident with this sound beating at the hands of lowly USU, the Cougars now are a huge laughing stock in the State of Utah.

    Not even the Aggie faith full expected that USU would not only win the game but beat the Cougars so soundly.

    "POLY" Cougar Nation

  • Jrifkin48 Fayetteville, NC
    Oct. 3, 2010 12:15 p.m.

    truetoU- Utah did what it had to do to get out of the MWC and was luckily thrown a line by the PAC12. Utah is just a regional program and this was their one and only chance to get out. BYU has always had the influence to go Independent and make it work, Utah can't. If the PAC-12 really wanted you they wouldn't not have disrespected you with that horrible no revenue contract after their Texas deal fell through. The U has a good football program right now, I hope they can sustain it for the sake of the locals. Anyways, I see years of being beat down by BYU has really made you a bitter. Cheer up, you got your BCS move and are the last guys to beat Alabama. Focus on the good at the U and quit worrying about BYU.

  • truetoU Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 11:52 a.m.

    dear jrifkin48 - you said so many things that are just not accurate that I don't/won't even bother to point them all out.... except for "they signed the deal in desperation", really...... are you kidding me. I'm not even going to bother trying to explain to how this is a rediculous comment because you will believe what you want to believe.... whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by the way good luck with that independence thing... was friday night the kind of exposure you all were hoping for when you signed that espn deal.... I bet it wasn't espns. and actually you guys may have an easier time scheduling games with teams like texas, michigan, or whomever because they will want a usu/byu result on national tv for all their fans and recruits to see.....

  • Jazzman72 Springville, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 11:44 a.m.

    Every program has down years. This is a young team. They'll take their lumps this year, and come back next year with a bitter taste in their mouths and a lot of motivation.

  • Jrifkin48 Fayetteville, NC
    Oct. 3, 2010 11:33 a.m.

    Cheer up BYU fans. Having a losing season happens once in a while, but we will bounce back with our Top 25 recruiting class from last year. Besides look to Utah for inspiration. They've been horrible for decades and now they are doing alright. Our future is bright and independence is going to help. Utah isn't even going to get any revenue next year from the PAC 12. Why? They signed the deal in desperation. We were lucky enough to have the prestige to go Independent and get sponsored by ESPN. BYU will be alright.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 10:18 a.m.

    Get used to the losing streaks little brothers.

    Now that Utah is in a real conference, has shown TWICE now we can actually have quests, continually beat BCS opponents, get up for big games, have coaches that know how to win and not just say "execution" thousands of times it isn't going to be a tough choice for future recruits.

    BYU will continue to get the slowest of slow players who just love the honor code, and we'll all see many 5-7 seasons in the future. Loving it!

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 9:49 a.m.

    Our family moved to Utah in 1976. My dad joined the Cougar Club and we enjoyed attending and watching BYU football games from that time forward.

    Sadly, by the third game this season, I told my siblings this is the worst BYU football team I've seen in that 34 years.

    They're horrible!

    What amazes me (and a lot of fans and non-fans alike) is how a team can go from being a top-15 team to a bottom-15 team in just a few months.

    And firing Jaime Hill isn't the resolution. How is that going to help receivers catch balls? How is that going to help Special Teams?

    There is something wrong--and I don't think it's that the team isn't doing enough firesides either.

  • mile high cougar Littleton, CO
    Oct. 3, 2010 8:40 a.m.

    Fall and fallen hard is an understatement. Bronco has lost it. It shows in this team's poor preparation, his inability to hold his staff accountable, mainly Robert Anae (the guy that should have been fired) and he can't make a decision to save his life (ie starting QB, starting TE, and firing the right guy). Also this team and coaching staff are lazy. They don't practice well, they don't watch film, they just show up to games hoping they will win. I beat most of the players and coaches have forgotten where the film room is. What an embarrassment this team is. Utah, BSU and TCU reload, BYU falls apart.

  • trv Pleasant View, UT
    Oct. 3, 2010 7:44 a.m.

    As a diehard, bleeding blue, Cougar fan I continue to support the team and the coaches through wins and losses. I'm optimistic that BYU will pull out of this struggle and have a great year. They have the players and coaches with the kind of character that will rise to the top. Heaps, DiLuigi, Rich, Logan, and Bradley and all the rest are the kind of players we know will rise to the top. Go Blue.

  • softbear Olympia, WA
    Oct. 3, 2010 3:05 a.m.

    No one likes to lose and I'm sure our team feels the same way. Was firing Jamie the answer, time will tell, it was pretty clear the defense wasn't getting the job done. But the defense wasn't dropping passes, gaining very few yards on the ground, missing blocks on the line. Jake seemed to never go to his secondary receivers, is that his fault or Anaes? I have to 2 questions: Where is the BYU that at halftime would make adjustments and come out and get the job done? And where is the big hard hitting (either blocking or running) fullback? Surely with all the talent we have there should be someone that can bruise the middle, especially against some of the defenses we have played against.

    I still have faith in this team and believe they are capable of finishing strong. But those receivers are going to have to help Heaps out by catching the ball. Some say he throws to hard, but his high school teammates seem to catch those balls without much trouble. We've had our pre-season, now let's get serious and get the job done.