Dick Harmon: Unfortunate injuries mar Friday's tilt at Utah St.

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  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 1, 2010 4:40 p.m.

    Dick Harmon,
    Question. Possible article in the future.

    Overall, many commentators are saying our USA society has become more coarse, crude and hateful. From reading the diatribes, rants, raves, abusive language (even without the naughty words)and hate speech so prevalent on the Comment sections here and elsewhere, I've got to believe our society is going totally down the toilet.

    From your position have you found that to be true -- that people disagree more and are beyond disagreeable in doing so?

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Oct. 1, 2010 4:13 p.m.

    You give too little credit to Nevada and UTEP. They will each score at least 40 on their opponent.

    I love how USU fans predict these wild wins with absolutely zero logic on why that would be the score. The list of serious injuries is almost double BYUs. Just looking how both teams played last week, the edge for sure goes to BYU. Only predicting a TD victory is hardly being a homer.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Sept. 30, 2010 5:22 p.m.

    HedgeHog! Your hallucinating again. BYUs win over Oklahoma was big. So was the win over Oregon which the utes could'nt even do. BYU has even beaten Southern Cal a few years ago (it happened). Keep playing San Jose State & New Mexico.

  • RaininTime Orem, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 5:21 p.m.

    Big Ben---it looks very jr and sr. heavy and the freshman and soph's you are mentioning.......well honestly, I have never even heard of the names on that team....I'm just saying.

    So Friday night will be a bunch of 2nd string players against each other. I guess we'll see who emerges.

    Harmon is 31-4 and he picked UNR last week, hardly a "homer." People, you need to read his entire articles as they usually have quite the perspective into BYU athletics.

    As far as who has been the most open and critical of BYU coaching this year, it has been Harmon. The other guys have sort of tip-toed around the coaching issue----which Mendenhall openly admits he was wrong.

    BYU has lost games against AF and UNR because of their Spring and Fall camps. I think Mendenhall has admitted as much. The question is can BYU recover?

    A loss to USU would tell me a resounding "No."

    A win against USU would tell me, progress has been made. I see this week as a make it or break it (season wise) game.

    I'll be there.

  • Big Ben 2.0 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:55 p.m.

    I have to disagree with MichiganCoog.

    Utahs 2007 Starting lineup:

    LT-Zane Beadles (soph)
    LG-Caleb Schlauderoff (freshman)
    C-Kyle Gunther (senior)
    RG-Mike Conley (junior)
    RT-Dustin Hensel (junior)

    QB-Brian Johnson (junior)

    RB-Darrell Mack (junior)

    WR-Brian Hernandez (senior)
    WR-Derrick Richards (senior)
    WR-Bradon Godfrey (junior)
    WR-Freddie Brown (junior)

    On Defense

    DE-Pual Kruger (freshman)
    DT-Gabe Long (senior)
    DT-Kenape Eliapo (sophomore)
    DE-Greg Newman (junior)

    LB-Malaki Mokofisi (senior)
    LB-Joe Jiannoni (senior)
    LB-Kyle Brady (senior)

    CB-Sean Smith (sophomore)
    CB-Brice McCain (junior)

    FS-Robert Johnson (sophomore)
    SS-Steve Tate/Joe Dale (senior, sophomore)

    Outside of the linebackers, thats hardly a "veteran" team.

    Just saying..........

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:38 p.m.

    "As soon as BYU starts out a season with a big win over a big name opponent and an undefeated September.."


    Talk about hyperbole..LOL!

    Silly kewg, BYU doesn't get "big wins" over "big names".

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:26 p.m.

    1) Why do you cougar fans bother to argue with hedgehog? I know he is annoying, but lets just move on ok?

    2) MichiganCoog
    I love the posting in Bronco-speak. To sum up what you said:

    you find it humorous that Utah fans look down on BYU. In 2007, Utah was in a similar predicament and came out of it, beginning with a game 5 victory over utah state. This year, Utah has not played anyone good. BYU has had a more difficult schedule than Utah.

    Did I miss anything?

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 4:16 p.m.

    ...to continue my point about Utah's 2007 and BYU's 2010 team...BYU's is a freshman and sophmore dominated team, whereas Utah's 2007 team was a veteran team, that did not face any ranked teams on their way to a 9-4 season. If BYU pulls that off (which they will not), it will prove to be a much bigger accomplishment (season-wise) because of how many teams they will have faced w/ winning records this year. So far, an 11-4 record, and 2 ranked teams ahead. We can only watch as it continues to play out. First the Baggies, then SDSU at home. Go Coogs, turn this around!

  • Solomon the Wise Alpine, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 3:54 p.m.

    "If you lose it will take years to change public perception."

    As usual, hedgehog, you're full of hyperbole, but short on understanding.

    ONE WIN to start next season will completely erase the lethargy of BYU's 2010 rebuilding season.

    You see. a national reputation that has been built on decades of football excellence, is only going to suffer a slight bruise from an occassional rebuilding year.

    As much as BYU haters try to minimize it, BYU's national championship is like a golden ticket to credibility. As soon as BYU starts out a season with a big win over a big name opponent and an undefeated September, the talking heads will immediately start talking about BYU's previous journey to the peak of college football.

    A been there, done that, they could do it again.

    Instant credibility. Instant exposure. Instant relevance.

    Because of years of previous success!

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 3:52 p.m.

    One thing I hope is that BYU plays to win and that they don't play not to lose. This game is more mental than physical. They've just got to play smart, play hard, and they will be alright.

    Go Cougars!

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 3:41 p.m.

    You know it is funny how many Ute fans on here, and on the airwaves that say how horrible BYU is at 1-3, and have a major case of amnesia concerning how bad Utah's 2007 season started, losing 0-27 to that lousy 3-9 UNLV team, then faced Utah State in their 5th game only to turn it around. Yes, BYU is facing a much more difficult schedule w/ SDSU, TCU, and an unproven, than Utah's 2007 schedule, and their overrated 2010 Utah squad that hasn't faced anyone w/ a pulse yet. I guess we'll see how BYU fares going forward, but I like their chances going forward. Again the major factor between BYU's 2010 schedule, and Utah's 2007 schedule, is that BYU has faced a 10 fold more difficult schedule...

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 30, 2010 2:48 p.m.

    Fiddler: DESPERATELY grasping at straws!!


    Go Aggies!!

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    Hey Fiddler,

    what does "cant even fight their way through UNLV and UNM LOL!!!!!!" mean? That just makes no sense?

    Wait, why did I even ask? Fiddler is out of posts for this thread.........

  • PJ Logan, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 11:46 a.m.

    No question the injuries at USU have had an influence on the 1-3 start but not once has Coach A used that as an excuse but we all know if (again, IF) the Ags win Friday night that the Cougs will be full of them. Better get started now to think of something good and original.

  • Fiddler Orem, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 11:22 a.m.

    "That being said, Fridays ESPN game is definitely “do or die” for the cougars. You see, from a national fan base and media perspective, this is the only college football game on TV. 99.9% have little to no vested interest in BYU or USU."

    Opposite ends of the spectrum here. What channel was Utah on Saturday? Funny that a 1-3 BYU team becomes the only team on tv and an undefeated Utah team that is top 15 can't even fight their way through UNLV and UNM. LOL!!! Now you tell me who "99.9% of the people have little to no vested interest in."

    You guys really do make things to easy. Other than that, beat us at something then come talk.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:30 a.m.

    Funny, I think most rational coaches and fans realize injuries are part of the game — not excuses.

    That being said, Fridays ESPN game is definitely “do or die” for the cougars. You see, from a national fan base and media perspective, this is the only college football game on TV. 99.9% have little to no vested interest in BYU or USU.

    The national fan base and media will walk away from this game with one of two impressions.

    If the kewgs wins - the nation will look at the BYU program as weak but attempting to rebuild
    If the kewgs lose — the nation will look at the BYU program as irrelevant and a complete joke.

    Remember tds, when it comes to “exposure” perception is reality. If you lose it will take years to change public perception.

  • Fiddler Orem, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 10:09 a.m.

    No matter what happens Friday, I hope USU knows that it took BYU less than 24 hours to all but rid this state of their whole program so watch what you say or we may just complete what almost happened a couple months ago.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Sept. 30, 2010 8:42 a.m.

    After watching the cut block on Fuga I realized that

    1. AF, the Texans and DEN Bronco's use that as their primary blocking scheme.

    2. It is dirty. It is also legal (barely in Fuga's case) and it is dangerous.

    3. There should be additional restrictions on blocking below the waist in both college and the NFL for obvious reasons.

    The problem lies in the current rules. QBs have all kinds of protection by the rules. So do punters because they are in vulnerable positions when they get hit. The line also needs some additional protection from cut blocks.

    On another topic, BYU spend all summer putting in plays for Nelson. Too bad they did not include some Pistol plays. That would make the LB reads much harder. BYU's offense is SO predictable that decent defensive teams and 1/2 of the fans know what the play is before it is run.

    Do not be surprised next year when Nelson is back and running the offense at least part of the time.

    BYU will never be great until they learn to disguise their plays better. The defense has to much warning.

  • nehu Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2010 7:20 a.m.

    Re: Dallas Aggie

    I normally don't care for Dick's stuff either as I am a fan of the Ags myself but at least he had the "facts" straight in understanding how bad our injury situation really is. He even had a couple of pre-season injuries on there I was unaware of.

    Both squads healthy and at full force or simply missing one or two players each and I would go with the Aggies for sure this year. Turbin and Morrison are the type of athletes that BYU has not had much success handling over the years and frankly this BYU team has really missed expectations as Heaps has not been worth all the hype.

    However looking at it I just see USU too damaged to get over the hump.

    If we win I will revert back to my 1993 (58-56 USU), I think the posts will be coming down:)

  • Bo Jangles Meridian, ID
    Sept. 30, 2010 12:13 a.m.

    This all points to the necessity of building a program with overall team depth. Appears neither program has it right now.

  • dallas aggie Minneapolis, MN
    Sept. 29, 2010 11:00 p.m.

    Harmon is such a homer. Oh well, the same goes for me. I expect USU to win 35 - 17. Our boys know how important this game is to USU and our plan to reestablish our team. It means MUCH MUCH more to us, than to BYU. The time has come to box up a win and put it under the Christmas tree. Go Aggies!