BYU football schedules home-and-home against Central Florida

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  • UtahBlueDevil
    Sept. 8, 2010 6:48 a.m.

    Lets see, how many Pac 10 top 25 teams do we have this week. Ummm, that would be three (7,16.25), and one of them is ineligible. The MountainWest has three (3,4,20). If this were next year, and we pull USC for obvious reasons, the Pac10 would be 7,20 and 25. Hardly a power conference. Utes shouldn't be thumping their chest too hard here.

    The negative side of me sees both BYUs and Utahs moves as being cowardly. The conference they built together was passing them by. They went from fighting each other for 1 and 2 in the conference to being the third and fourth at best in conference. MWC wasn't about them anymore.

    To all you who laugh at Central Florida, you really have no clue what you are talking about. I don't think CF is better than TCU or BS, but they would kill the majority of the MWC teams. They have amazing speed. They would be a mid top tier team in the MWC, probably 5th, capable of beating even, yes, Utah on a given day.

    Good luck BYU, I still think it was a dumb idea.

  • Dave from Taylorsville
    Sept. 7, 2010 5:04 p.m.


    It's going to be the PAC 12 with two divisions. You will probably NOT be playing USC each year. It all depends on how the conference alignment goes.

    You'll probably be playing Wash. State every year. . . good luck.

  • Where's Stockton ???
    Sept. 6, 2010 8:14 a.m.

    It's early people...for heaven sakes...Most teams already have their schedules for 2011 set in concrete. What do you expect for a team that just unlocked a week ago the MWC ball and chain that has held them back for the last 10 years....Plus along with later games with FSU it opens a little wider the small crack in recruiting in that area of the country...Where BYU has had little opportunity before. You 've gotta get a schedule set and set soon...So quit your belly aching for crying out loud. The contract with ESPN alone, along with their promised support to help in scheduling other big name teams is a key factor that you are not even considering in your immediate first look. Grow up Cougar fans...and uties...unless and until you outdo Arizona and Arizona States dismal transformation to the PAC I wouldn't be so vocal either. Both Teams made smart moves and at a time when it was critical so lets all throw our support behind both Utah and BYU and hopefully keep the rivalry going for the only game that to many of us really matters.

  • SLCWatch
    Sept. 5, 2010 11:19 p.m.

    That's the trouble, both are just mid majors.

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 5, 2010 10:54 p.m.

    Re: SLCWatch | 7:35 p.m. Sept. 5, 2010

    "Choices, choices."

    I'd say play mid major directional U. In fact, load up with home and homes with those mid major directional schools.

    Clearly a its a better fit for mid major independent U.

  • SLCWatch
    Sept. 5, 2010 7:35 p.m.

    Okay, while the complaints about strength of schedule rage because Washington pulled out of a contract to play a cupcake BYU and the Cougars picked up a game with Central Florida lets do a comparison between possible games. Play in Orlando and face a team with recent success in football, in a 45,000 seat stadium, where a very large number of BYU fans are, where the fans have been called rowdy, vulgar and they throw beer on you, and you can go to multiple theme parks the days before the game or you can go to Salt Lake, play with a team that has recent football success, has a 45,000 seat stadium, there are a large number of BYU fans, where the fans have been called rowdy, vulgar and throw beer on you and you can go to Pioneer Park, Jordan Park and Rosepark the days before the game. Choices, choices.

  • Utah Utes1
    Sept. 4, 2010 3:18 p.m.

    Howard S. | 2:37 p.m. Sept. 4, 2010

    Hey, everyone needs their cupcakes.

    BYU gets Directional Florida U, and Texas and ND get BYU.

    Well said.

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 4, 2010 2:37 p.m.

    Re: Kyle loves BYU/Jazz | 1:48 p.m. Sept. 4, 2010

    "Apparently they are really upset about Notre Dame and Texas playing BYU."

    Hey, everyone needs their cupcakes.

    BYU gets Directional Florida U, and Texas and ND get BYU.

    It's like the circle of life in college football...

  • GoUtah
    Sept. 4, 2010 2:13 p.m.


    "Strength of schedule means nothing."

    Are you serious? BSU is where they're at due to how they ended last year and who they're bringing back. duh? The same with TCU.

    The tds' weak schedule will NOT get them ranked and each week they play a weak opponent, they'll not climb in the polls.

    It's clear that "post-season" play is NOT the priority for the tds. It hasn't been for years and can't be in the near future given their independence and up-coming schedule(s).

    The big question is how the tds fans will react to their home schedule including San Jose St., New Mexico St., LA Tech and Hawaii (among other far weaker opponents).

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 4, 2010 2:10 p.m.

    Re:hedgehog | 1:24 p.m. Sept. 4, 2010

    "Now about actually playing like them......"

    Hedgeie -

    Perhaps I did overstate the point.

    BYU has a long way to go (two BCS bowl games) to be like Boise.

    But hey... if their "Quest for Cupcakes" is successful they might have a shot at an undefeated season and a BCS game.

  • Utah Utes1
    Sept. 4, 2010 1:52 p.m.

    BYU 26 Utah 23 | 12:07 a.m. Sept. 4, 2010

    "It'll be hillarious to watch all of the cream puffs Utah will be scheduling to balance out having to play those amazingly tough PAC 12 opponents Washington State and Colorado."

    Do you know what will be even more fun to watch? BYU begging the Utes to play them. BYU is about to learn they DESPERATELY NEED the UofU ESPECIALLY as Utah now carries the PAC 12 brand.

    My thoughts go something like this...

    Dear Dr. Hill,

    Please do not give a slot in Utah's OOC schedule to BYU. BYU officials will claim that agreeing to a multi-year home and home series with them will be in the Utes' best interest. Do not trust them. Utah State University trusted BYU and now have no conference in which to play. BYU's interest is in themselves only and they desperately need a PAC 12 school to legitimize their independence.

    Please do not afford BYU the opportunity to use the University of Utah as they used Utah State University. BYU will debase themselves to the lowest levels it takes to accomplish their own objectives.


    Ute Nation

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz
    Sept. 4, 2010 1:48 p.m.

    Live Hard I'm a little confused by your comment at 5:07 PM. Did you think Laramie is in Colorado??

    Central Florida is pretty good for a last minute fill in for next year. Plus the Cougs get another chance to play in Florida which as everyone else has pointed out is much better than pretty much all of the MWC locations.

    I love the Ute fans going crazy. Apparently they are really upset about Notre Dame and Texas playing BYU. What did you want BYU to do? Add Alabama and Florida too? Be realistic people. They are trying to find games for next year!

  • hedgehog
    Sept. 4, 2010 1:24 p.m.

    Howard S.

    Basically your right. BYU is the new Boise. Now about actually playing like them......

    Who would have thought former junior college would become what tds strives to be.

  • Hellooo
    Sept. 4, 2010 1:18 p.m.

    Absolutely a perfect schedule. As it is said, "just win baby", and you will be looking at a BCS bowl BTW look at that great 2008 schedule that made the U number 2 ranked in the country at the end of the year. Look at the schedule of the number three ranked team in the country this year. Strength of schedule means nothing. It is simply away for the $ conferences to jigger the ratings to try to justify collusion, and for sports shows with hosts from outside the area to sound like they know something.

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 4, 2010 12:28 p.m.

    Re: CG | 11:13 a.m. Sept. 4, 2010

    "Wishful thinking, hyperbole, and extreme jealousy on the part of another delusional Utah troll."

    Yeah right... Utah's dream is home and homes with "Directional Florida U" and replacing Boise in ESPN's weeknight lineup.

    BYU has become the new Boise.


  • Marky
    Sept. 4, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    @Cougars - We Will Always Be YOUR Big Brothers. You really want to talk smack about the Sagarin ranking of the Central Florida team? Well, the same rankings show that the Golden Knights would be right behind Air Force in the MWC and AHEAD of CSU(90) - WYO(100) - UNLV(100) - UNM(101) - SDSU(107). So, yeah, playing Central Florida is a big upgrade over the bottom feeders in the MWC. The same MWC teams that are whining about BYU leaving are the very teams that are part of the reason why BYU is leaving. And Central Florida is still rated higher than your in-conference rival, Washington State from the "Conference of Champions." Enjoy.

  • CG
    Sept. 4, 2010 11:13 a.m.

    "ESPN is the boss, not a friend of BYU, and that boss will pull the plug in a heartbeat if BYU stumbles."

    Wishful thinking, hyperbole, and extreme jealousy on the part of another delusional Utah troll.

    The Utes would love "to be owned by ESPN", because that would show that the Utes are a valuable enough product for THE SPORTS LEADER to own.

    It's driving the Utah trolls nuts that BYU is the only team in Utah that has that distinction.

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 4, 2010 10:53 a.m.

    Re: hedgehog | 9:39 a.m. Sept. 4, 2010

    "They are owned by ESPN."

    Amen hedgeie -

    I like the spin that BYU has a friend in ESPN.

    With the departure of BSU ESPN had weekday time slots to fill and BYU was willing to fill them.

    ESPN is the boss, not a friend of BYU, and that boss will pull the plug in a heartbeat if BYU stumbles.

  • SportsFan
    Sept. 4, 2010 10:28 a.m.

    The hysteria and temper tantrums being thrown by the hill trolls shows that BYU's move to independence has really gotten under their skin.

    The Utah trolls are in full panic mode now because they know that it's entirely possible that BYU could indeed become the "Notre Dame of the West", while Utah sinks into obscurity buried in the middle of the PAC.

    BYU doesn't need to schedule a full slate of Top 25 "name" teams in order to fulfill their goals of national exposure and recognition. A few wins over big name teams, coupled with a great record, will have the Cougars highly ranked and make them a serious player on the national stage.

    The biggest upside to independence, however, has already been achieved.

    BYU fans nationwide and worldwide will now be able to watch EVERY BYU football and basketball game, as well as, most of BYU's other sports.

  • hedgehog
    Sept. 4, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    Make no mistake, tds is "Independent" in name only. They are owned by ESPN. Only ESPN will decide if the tds will succeed or fail.
    When ESPN says jump - tds says "how high".

    BYUtv is simply a gimick and will not move the dial on exposure, money and most importantly - power.

    TDS better schedule great and they better win or your new "master" will pull the plug.

  • TrueBlue
    Sept. 4, 2010 9:26 a.m.

    Insights from a Navy Blog:

    Contrary to the irrational, emotional responses you might be reading elsewhere on the internet, this is the right move for BYU. This isn’t about BYU being "arrogant" or "delusional." It’s all business.

    Let’s address some of the other talk floating around about BYU’s move:

    BYU is just arrogant. Without the Mountain West, they’ll become irrelevant.

    --This is not BYU being arrogant. This is BYU being pragmatic. And frankly, the idea of an alliance with Wyoming and New Mexico being the path to national "relevance" is ridiculous. BYU adds value to the Mountain West, not the other way around.

    BYU won’t be able to fill its schedules as an independent.

    --In the past 5 years alone, BYU has scheduled Boston College, Notre Dame, Arizona, UCLA, Washington, Oklahoma, and Florida State. If those teams will play a Mountain West BYU, they’ll play an independent BYU--especially when ESPN is brokering the deal. In the last two weeks alone BYU has announced future series with Texas and Notre Dame.

    For more, see thebirddog [dot] wordpress [dot] com/2010/09/02/welcome-to-the-club-byu/

  • SoCalUtahFan
    Sept. 4, 2010 9:06 a.m.

    ...We Cougar fans just simply want to watch our team play their games. That's it. If we win, it's a bonus...

    We all know that you guys would just want to watch BYU playing...even against Holy Cross, Central Florida, Florida Atlantic...just about any long as it's not in Big 6 conferences.
    Actually, honestly answer many times have you guys watch a replay of 1984 Holiday bowl vs Michigan on BYUtv? Or on a beta tape?

    I, myself, look forward to see Utah in FSN here in Southern Cal --a dream comes true since I've not been able to watch much of Utah since moving here.

    It feels soooooo gooooood to be a Utes fan!!!

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 4, 2010 8:36 a.m.

    MichiganCoog | 11:57 p.m

    "BYU will be playing on National TV on a regular basis."

    Dear MichiganCoog -

    Cut through the spin and you see that BYU replaces BSU in the ESPN weekday lineup.

    BSU graduated from that spot to join the MWC.

    BYU on the other hand believes it graduated to the weekday ESPN lineup and the WCC???

    Weird... but more power to ya...

  • ed in atl
    Sept. 4, 2010 7:59 a.m.

    I went to see my son play at CFU when he played for Memphis 3 yrs ago. They were the worst fans ever. Make sure the game is played at the Citrus Bowl stadium and not the campus stadium. It is a long walk through campus to the stadium through tailgaters and heckling the whole way with a beer thrown at us. That is also the year that TX came in almost lost to CFU. They are not a step below the WAC.

  • rford28213
    Sept. 4, 2010 7:52 a.m.

    WOW!! This is the reason I am happy that BYU and Utah are going in different directions. You schedule naysayers can't believe your own words...can you?? Teams tied to leagues only have so many games they cam schedule against non-league opponents and they typically schedule out 3 or more years and typically can't/won't change those scheduled games. BYU's bold move to independence will take more than 3 years to get their schedule where they want it because they will have challenges scheduling in the next 3 years. The model that BYU boldly created with ESPN as partners is financially the envy of most schools playing college football who know the specifics of the deal...and maybe the Utes also!! But seriously, this is not about the money (though honestly, that is going to be a plus for the BYU sports programs) this is about exposure of the BYU brand and not about the MWC and Craig Thompson telling BYU how to conduct business and how they can televise BYU sports programing!! BYU has patiently tried to resolve this issue for 11 years, but it was never going to happen!! Bye bye MWC.

  • Utefan
    Sept. 4, 2010 7:09 a.m.

    Ybu has scheduled Central Florida? The fabled Golden Knights of football lore who plays in Orlando, home of Disney World?!

    I'm impressed!! I take back everything I ever said about Ybu not being able to schedule quality teams if it went independent!

    I can see ESPNU's opening shots of the Epcot Center as their Thursday or Friday night Game of the Day opens its National coverage!

    Meanwhile on Saturday, Utah is playing UCLA in the Rose Bowl!

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 4, 2010 12:39 a.m.

    Utah might've won the NC in 2004 or 2008 if given a chance. Just like other MWC and WAC teams might have if their was a legit playoff system.

    Only have-no-life-weenies are anti-BYU or support the BcS. Classy Ute fans don't spew the same things trolls on here do.

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 4, 2010 12:38 a.m.

    CG | 7:05 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010

    "Utah had more wins over top 25 finishing schools in 2008 than the National Champion did."

    And with all those wins over top 25, Utah didn't impress enough poll voters to finish higher than #2/#4 because Utah hasn't paid their dues long enough to earn the national respect necessary to win a national championship.


    Stupid on so many levels.

    The fact that Utah had more wins than the National Champion, including beating the same team that was the NC best win, just shows how stupid, illogical and corrupt the whole BCS thing is.

    "Pay their dues?" BYU paid their dues and won a national championship, so the "haves" scrapped that system, created a monopoly and threw the "top 14 bone" to the non-BcS schools. If Boise and/or TCU go undefeated they STILL won't make it into the Championship. Mark my words.

    The BCS is supported by many of the same schools which were last to integrate -- no coincidence.

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 4, 2010 12:24 a.m.

    Kameron | 4:46 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010
    "Teams ready to play BYU are Portland State"

    They'd have to get out of their scheduled games with PAC lo teams Arizona State and Oregon if BYU wanted to play them this year.

  • Uteology
    Sept. 4, 2010 12:18 a.m.

    Big Hapa | 4:14 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010
    seem's that you would do your home work on teams that are lining up with the BYU before you type on the blogs.


    Teams like Fresno and Nevada?

    Oh wait, they rather pay a $5 million fine then to play BYU.

    Maybe Washington? Oh wait they canceled a game with BYU already.

    Look Texas and Notre Dame are two for one deals, great pickups but not teams they will play annually.

    SOS is still to be determined but without BCS teams look for the 2011 SOS to be similar to Boise.

    Unless that is if they pick up teams like LSU and Okalahoma in 2011.

  • BYU 26 Utah 23
    Sept. 4, 2010 12:07 a.m.

    It'll be hillarious to watch all of the cream puffs Utah will be scheduling to balance out having to play those amazingly tough PAC 12 opponents Washington State and Colorado.

  • MichiganCoog
    Sept. 3, 2010 11:57 p.m.

    Howard S:

    Yeah, Utah does get USC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington and Oregon etc. etc, and along with that 5-6 losses each year...If you haven't figured it out yet, that great victory last night will soon become a thing of the past. Great team? Yes, but how many weeks in a row can your beloved Utes win overtime games against overrated Pitt teams at home, and hope to improve upon that stellar 1-10 road record against these PAC10 teams since 1994, during your best years of Football prominence? Enjoy you day in the sun, because it will be short lived...Whereas, BYU will be playing on National TV on a regular basis. NOBODY will be watching your UTES when they'll be playing most of their games after 10:00pm EST, when most of the major population centers have gone to bed.

    As for this huge cash payout that you've been licking your chops for, by joining the PAC12, is not going to be coming for another 3-4 years, and will be watered down, to keep USC, UCLA, Oregon and Stanford happy. BYU will be much better off, even if they have some patsies...

  • DiamondDad
    Sept. 3, 2010 11:52 p.m.

    Now that Utah is in a BCS conference and BYU is an independent desperate for significant opponents, Utah will be OK with playing BYU. However, it will need to be a 2 for 1 with 2 games played at RES for every game at LES. Take it or leave it! Or just schedule SUU or No. Arizona!

  • Old Gregg
    Sept. 3, 2010 11:47 p.m.

    @ Dennis,

    "My guess is by 2015 BYU will have Alta and Skyline on their schedule.

    My money is on Skyline!"

    Really dennis, that's really what you think? Man, you are so SMRT!

    I like one of the above comments about Utah being stalkers. Might be the best word describing their true love and jealousness for the cougars.

    I say let the Utes keep posting their comments on these boards. It always makes for a good laugh to go back and read their ridiculous comments like dennis above, or hedgehog telling us to mark his words that Tom Holmoe will be fired within a week. Good call hedgie, got any more? It's so cute when utes talk about things they don't know much about.

  • CaliforniaCougar
    Sept. 3, 2010 11:22 p.m.


    We Cougar fans just simply want to watch our team play their games. That's it. If we win, it's a bonus. There are just as many of us fans living OUTSIDE of Utah than there are of us living there. We just want to watch the games. For example, tomorrow, BYU will introduce its two-headed QB tomorrow against Washington and many of us will not have the chance to see it. Yes, it is on TV, but not my TV and not the TV of many other fans. Yes, I want to see BYU against Washington, but I won't. Next season, I can happily watch the Cougars play San Jose State, Central Florida, Idaho, etc. and I don't care. I just want to see the Cougars. In a few years, I know the schedule will improve as the bigger programs, such as Notre Dame, Texas, etc. will have open schedules. ESPN is on board and they will make it happen. It will only improve.

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 3, 2010 11:18 p.m.

    I predict that the promise of a long term home and home agreement with BYU will entice UVU to start up a football program.

    And it will be suuuuwwwweeeet.

  • Howard S.
    Sept. 3, 2010 10:59 p.m.

    Utah gets a perpetual home and home with USC, Oregon, UCLA, Stanford, Washington, etc.

    BYU gets a single home and home with a directional Florida school.

    Ahhh... livin' the dream of independence.

  • goodDr.
    Sept. 3, 2010 10:22 p.m.

    Bad Hiring? Really we want to talk about that? Just look at your last two basketball coaches and tell me what it's like to have an AD who never makes any mistakes. You had one of the best bball teams in the country, and now you can't even get players to stay for more than their freshman year. Any Y fan who doesn't have on blue blinders will admit Crowton was a mistake, but for you to sound off like Chris Hill has batted 1.000, man you have on some crimson tinted, gas station, uv blocking glasses that only come in one size: denial!

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Sept. 3, 2010 10:16 p.m.

    I hope this wasn't 2 for 1 as well. Those aren't good.

  • Anti Bush-Obama
    Sept. 3, 2010 10:16 p.m.

    HA! Just like I predicted. The first of many garbage teams on BYU's independent schedule. I guess this is what Tom Holmoe meant by "Storied Programs".

  • Ernest T. Bass
    Sept. 3, 2010 10:15 p.m.

    This is exactly the type of game we need to schedule all the time. This will give us a ton of exposure just like we need.
    It's these games that will win us the National title.

  • GoodGuyGary
    Sept. 3, 2010 9:56 p.m.

    Looks like more posts from Utah fans than BYU fans here, interesting.

  • tyndale1
    Sept. 3, 2010 9:34 p.m.

    Let's see; Laramie? or Orlando? Albuquerque? or Orlando? Ft. Collins? or Orlando?

    Orlando sounds pretty good. How do I get on the travel squad?

  • Osgrath
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:44 p.m.

    JohnInSLC @ 5:59 p.m.

    Understand, the administration of today is in all aspects different than that in place back then: different university president, different V.P. of the A.D., and different A.D. In fact, the fallout over Gary Crowton is what got Val Hale fired.

    So yes, I trust the group in charge right now.

  • fyre
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:40 p.m.

    Way to go BYU...even though I am a Ute fan I am happy for BYU independence and UCF is a great place to go play. I lived in that area and there is a lot of BYU fans in that area and all around Florida. You will be pulling fans from Tampa too. Excellent move BYU. How many BYU fans will travel to Orlando to hit a game and any of the theme parks? LOTS I bet

  • Utah Utes1
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:33 p.m.

    Did anyone see SportsCenter on Versus last night before the Utah game? They commented on BYU going independent. Not something the BYU faithful would want to hear.

  • CaliforniaCougar
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:26 p.m.

    It was already known that BYU would have an abnormal scheduling system in 2011 and 2012 since most teams across the nation are locked into scheduling commitments in those years. Scheduling Central Florida of course is out of the norm, but a decent find when there are slim scheduling pickins. However, in 2013 and beyond, ESPN will hook up to find more than Notre Dame and Texas such as Penn State, Oklahoma, USC, Miami, etc. BYU has already played each of those teams on ESPN and would certainly do it again. ESPN would not have made that contract without the ability to add more quality opponents. It will happen.

    Beyond the big schools, there are a lot of current BCS teams -- Purdue, Kansas, Kentucky, Virginia, Stanford, etc. -- who are looking to get more visibility. I wouldn't be surprised to see several of those schools jump at the chance to get on National TV. It will happen.

    Also, I would like to see BYU keep things local and schedule Utah, Utah State, and Weber State on an annual basis.

    Go Cougars!!

  • SoCalUtahFan
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:13 p.m.

    Next is the announcement for 6-game series with Holy Cross

  • Cougars --Best Little Brothers
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:11 p.m.

    Wow...this is great. Influence of ESPN TV package must help Holmoe to land this series with Central Florida (ranked 82nd by Sagarin).

  • FLCougar
    Sept. 3, 2010 8:05 p.m.

    Glad to hear BYU is coming to Orlando in '14. UCF would beat up the bottom half of the MWC.

  • Dennis
    Sept. 3, 2010 7:28 p.m.

    ms. fresnogirl, it is not flatter your reading.

    My guess is by 2015 BYU will have Alta and Skyline on their schedule.

    My money is on Skyline!

  • CG
    Sept. 3, 2010 7:05 p.m.


    "Utah had more wins over top 25 finishing schools in 2008 than the National Champion did."

    And with all those wins over top 25, Utah didn't impress enough poll voters to finish higher than #2/#4 because Utah hasn't paid their dues long enough to earn the national respect necessary to win a national championship.

  • SportsFan
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:57 p.m.

    The SportingNews just announced their position rankings for the 2010-2011 season:

    1. Jared Sullinger, Fr., Ohio State
    2. JaJuan Johnson, Sr., Purdue
    3. Enes Kanter, Fr., Kentucky
    4. Tyler Zeller, Jr., North Carolina
    5. Matt Howard, Sr., Butler

    Power Forward
    1. Marcus Morris, Jr., Kansas
    2. Jon Leuer, Sr., Wisconsin
    3. Trey Thompkins, Jr., Georgia
    4. Perry Jones, Fr., Baylor
    5. Mason Plumlee, So., Duke

    Small Forward
    1. Kyle Singler, Sr., Duke
    2. Harrison Barnes, Fr., North Carolina
    3. Kris Joseph, Jr., Syracuse
    4. Elias Harris, So., Gonzaga
    5. Chris Singleton, Jr., Florida

    Shooting Guard
    1. Jacob Pullen, Sr., Kansas State
    2. Durrell Summers, Sr., Michigan State
    3. LaceDarius Dunn, Sr., Baylor
    4. Nolan Smith, Sr., Duke
    5. Shelvin Mack, Jr., Butler

    Point Guard
    1. Jimmer Fredette, Sr., BYU
    2. Malcolm Delany, Sr., Virginia Tech
    3. Kyrie Irving, Fr., Duke
    4. Kemba Walker, Jr., Connecticut
    5. Josh Selby, Fr., Kansas

    The WCC and future WCC member BYU were represented. NOBODY from the PAC 10.

  • fresnogirl
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:50 p.m.

    I think it's funny that so many Utes care so much about what the team the next county over is doing, that they can't resist reading every article they can about us. Kind of flattering in a stalker kind of way.

  • duggity
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:39 p.m.

    re;Hellooo. Might want to check your facts. In case you missed it, Utah had more wins over top 25 finishing schools in 2008 than the National Champion did. Pretty sure that would be more than 1 quality team. TCU had several in 2009 as well.

  • Solomon the Wise
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:33 p.m.

    Utahfan2: Didn't Texas play in Laramie just last year? Was that game scheduled out of desperation?

    hedgehog: Yes.

  • scott
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:27 p.m.

    The Deuce

    "Another great team has been scheduled, San Jose State."

    Sat, Sep 25, 2010 8:00 pm

    San Jose State at Utah

  • scott
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:22 p.m.

    Everyone makes mistakes JohnInSLC. Grow up.

    Most BYU fans trust the current administration because we've seen the progress that has been made for the past five years. A program that was in shambles in 2004, that has finished in the Top 25 with 10+ win seasons each of the last four years.

    You use "admit" like BYU fans are hiding something about Crowton.

    Unless you've lived under a rock for the last decade, it was BYU fans who overwhelmingly demanded that BYU get rid of Crowton. He was a great offensive coordinator, but he was bumbling incompetent as a head coach.

  • Jealous U
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:10 p.m.


    If you didn't know that Central Florida existed, then you obviously don't know much about college football. The Knights are probably better than several teams in the MWC and at least a couple of teams in the future PAC 12.

  • Hellooo
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:06 p.m.

    Just the kind of teams necessary to, also, get into the BCS. Please check the schedule of the 2004 & 2008 Utes, Hawaii, 2009 TCU, 2009 BSU, and the 2010 BSU. The formula 1 quality team, 11 good teams, win the bowl game. This is not rocket science.

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:01 p.m.

    "BYU isn't playing BCS teams."

    You mean BCS teams like Vanderbuilt of the vaunted SEC which has ONE winning regular season in the last 30 years? (5 wins only 9 times in 30 years).

    This year PAC lo teams are playing Sacramento State, UC Davis, Montana State, Portland State, Northern Arizona, Toledo, the Citadel and BCS weeners like Syracuse and Louisville.

    Being a BCS school doesn't always mean a school is a tough opponent.

    Take Utah, for example. BYU has taken 3 of 4 from them.

  • Solomon the Wise
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:00 p.m.

    Live Hard

    "Gosh you sound so eloquent in the thought process."

    From everything I've ever seen you post, I doubt there's any thought process at all going on there.

    BYU fans have been alienated by the do nothings of the MWC for years. I seriously doubt any BYU fans are broken-hearted about the ungrateful, jealous temper tantrums now being thrown by fans who have been "alienated" because BYU no longer wants to play in their sandbox.

    Now's their chance to prove that they can stand on their own two feet and make something of themselves without having to rely on BYU to do all of the heavy lifting.

  • The Deuce
    Sept. 3, 2010 6:00 p.m.

    Another great team has been scheduled, San Jose State. For those of us in California who are familiar with college football, this is about the same as playing De La Salle High School. At least De La Salle has a national ranking. Come on, get seroius with the schedule or get back to the MWC. This is starting to look pathetic at best. Do you really think that ESPN is going the nationally televise this game? OK, this has been a nice joke and we are all laughing. Now let's get back to reality.

  • JohnInSLC
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:59 p.m.

    "That's the team that finally drove the nail in the coffin of Gary Crowton's coaching career at BYU."

    PAC Man: Yeah, he was a bad hire. It's nice to hear a BYU fan admit, in a roundabout way, that the whole "trust the administration to know what they're doing and it'll be fine" thing doesn't always work out.

    But you trust them now, right?

  • BoringGuy
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:57 p.m.

    The good thing about Cougar independence, I can expect to get exposed to a number of college football teams I never realized existed -- such as Central Florida.

  • Henry Drummond
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:49 p.m.

    Well ... I guess its going to take some time to get the schedule really up to snuff.

  • Jealous U
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:49 p.m.

    Any Utah troll/BYU hater mocking BYU for scheduling Central Florida is simply proving how clueless they are.

    UCF is a good football program smack in the middle of one the country's top recruiting hot beds.

    Playing the Knights, almost certainly on ESPN, will give BYU both southeast regional as well as national exposure, and give BYU fans a fun excuse for a late summer/early fall vacation. Disney World is only a short drive.

  • hedgehog
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:41 p.m.

    "NOBODY plays 12 Top 25 teams, in fact, even the Ohio States, Floridas and Texases of the college football world play several "breathers" in conference and OOC every year. Didn't Texas play in Laramie just last year? Was that game scheduled out of desperation?"

    Not being part of a BCS conference will force tds to schedule out of desperation. You must schedule top teams and you must win them all. If not, you will be shunned.

    Making deals with the devil has a few clauses.

  • Utah Fan2
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:23 p.m.

    Playing ANY schedule on ESPN and BYUtv is better than playing a full MWC schedule on theMtn!

    Most games are scheduled years in advance, so it's silly to compare what could have been in the MWC next year to who BYU plays in 2011 when BYU is scrambling to fill a schedule less than a year away.

    The full impact of going independent won't be seen for a few years, but the fact that BYU is already starting to schedule home-and-home games with teams like Texas and Notre Dame is a good sign that BYU will not be lacking for good teams to play in years to come.

    NOBODY plays 12 Top 25 teams, in fact, even the Ohio States, Floridas and Texases of the college football world play several "breathers" in conference and OOC every year. Didn't Texas play in Laramie just last year? Was that game scheduled out of desperation?

  • Bugoff
    Sept. 3, 2010 5:13 p.m.

    Holmoe was very clear that the first 2 years would be make do schedules as most teams were already scheduled.

    At least they got a team outside of the Intermountain West.

    CFL gives BYU exposure in Orlando which is a lot better than in Vegas where they are already well known, having played there for years.

  • armchairQB
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:59 p.m.

    I think Central Florida is a good addition to the schedule as many of you have posted. They have been one of the best teams in conference USA the past few years which has some pretty good teams, E. Carolina, Houston, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, Marshall (they didn't fare too well last night). If I were scheduling for BYU I would try to schedule the best teams from every FBS conference, of course some of them will be weaker than others, but at the end of a successful year no one could claim that your schedule was inflated.

    As many others have noted, it will take a few years to get their schedule to include all the teams they would like.

  • eagle
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:57 p.m.

    Central Florida is one of those programs that has came out of nowhere based on their charismatic coach (George O'Leary). They play pretty good football with good team speed that should frighten Cougar fans.

    Now the bad, they can easily disappear into total football oblivion just as fast. No Central Florida is not Weber State but easily could be if O'Leary leaves or retires. This is a program in a state full of talent but fifth down the list behind Florida, Miami, Florida State, and South Florida and could in the end could be fighting for talent with Florida International.

    It's the type of game that in the end the Cougs have more to lose because Central Florida right now is a program that is actually better than most people believe.

  • dferg
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:56 p.m.

    All you bitter Ute fans - duggity, kidicky, Chris B, Uteology, Live Hard - are being absolutey ridiculous. It's like you're throwing a childish tantrum because someone has something you can't, so you've thrown yourself down on the floor, started kicking your feet, crying and calling the person that has the thing names. What is the deal? Stop being so jealous! Utah got the invite to a BSC conference, so quitcherbellyachin'.

    If you'd have bothered to listen or read ANYTHING Tom Holmoe said at Wednesday's press conference, you would have noticed he did say that scheduling for 2011 and 2012 would need to be fleshed out a bit since schedules, especially non-conference schedules - pay attention, now; you should know this - are generally made several years in advance. Teams with already inked schedules can't "unink" them without consequences, I'm sure.

    And what? BYU is supposed to completely fill their schedule, week after week, with the likes of the 'Canes, the Longhorns, the 'Huskers, the Sooners, etc.? Even those teams don't play high-caliber teams every week; they have "cupcake" games as well.

    So lay off; get a life.

  • PAC man
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:53 p.m.


    " In your struggle to find a Ute put-down, you apparently forgot that one of those other 8 patsies was . . . wait for it . . . BYU"

    Actually, I didn't forget at all, in fact the 2004 BYU team (4-8) was one of the worst BYU teams in the last 50 years.

    That's the team that finally drove the nail in the coffin of Gary Crowton's coaching career at BYU.

  • duggity
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:53 p.m.

    PAC "man". Why are we jealous? And there is no team out there that schedules top 25 teams for every OOC game so your response is not valid. Here's the thing. If I were a BYU fan I would be ticked off at this schedule. If they had a tough schedule and were adding Central Florida in order to give the team a break from the constant testing than I would understand it. But this schedule is BAD. Only two good teams in Oregon and Texas with the possibility of adding Utah. From there you have five (possibly four depending on how much Utah State improves) pure sugary cupcakes. I would be angry at spending my money on tickets for those kind of games. And they follow that by adding a cream puff like Central Florida? I'm not trolling or ripping on BYU here. I'm complaining at the lack of decent teams on the schedule. This is exactly what BYU and Utah fans were ripping on Boise State for for the last several years. I just hope the Notre Dame thing happens so their SOS won't be so low. BYU still needs two more good teams.

  • kellyd
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:51 p.m.

    I think the cougars should follow the Utes example and schedule tough teams like Weber State. Maybe if BYU scheduled Weber State like the Utes did in 2008 they could have gone to the BCS too?

  • donburi
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:50 p.m.

    UCF is an up and coming football program. They are decent now, and could be very good by 2014. Good opponent I think.

  • Kameron
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:46 p.m.

    This is huge. Oh my heck! Isn't Central Florida one of the top 8 teams in Florida? Teams ready to play BYU are Texas Southern, Oral Roberts, University of Anchorage, Portland State, Idaho State, Middle Tennessee State, Mesa Community College, Grand Junction Technical College, North Dakota, South Dakota and Dixie State. It's wonderful to see the talent lining up to play.

  • Warrik
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:46 p.m.

    Lets take a look at how the schedule would be if BYU would have stayed in the MWC.

    conference games:
    Boise State
    Colorado State
    New Mexico
    San Diego
    Air Force

    Out of Conference:
    Utah State

    the 4 teams they had sceduled OOC are still on thier schedule. Now the other 8 that take the place of the conference schedule look like it will be:

    New Mexico State
    San Jose State
    Notre Dame (possibly)
    and two more schools.

    I'd say playing ND on national TV is much better then playing either Boise State or TCU on the MTN. UCF may not be the greatest team but they're better then half the MWC teams, so it's a trade up there. And if BYU can get a visit to Hawaii and add 3 more quality (even if they aren't the top schools in the nation) teams, then I think the schedule has improved as an independent.

  • PAC man
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:44 p.m.

    Live Hard's favorite team's schedule is full of patsies, but he's too much of a coward to post that.

    What clueless naysayers like Live Hard are unable to comprehend is that playing in recruiting hot beds like Central Florida will be good for recruiting, plus it will give BYU fans in other parts of the country a chance to watch a BYU game live and in person.

    Orlando in September or Laramie in November.

    What OOC cupcake will Utah be playing September 6, 2014?

  • ouisc
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:41 p.m.

    I am the opposite of a BYU fan, but seriously, scheduling UCF is a great call. UCF is a solid opponent, one of the better football programs in Conference USA, has defeated BCS teams, has been to bowl games in recent years, and provides some exposure to the Southeastern U.S.

    Those who want to complain about BYU ought to find a different topic.

  • Wally West
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:40 p.m.

    re: Kid from Oregon | 3:37 p.m. Sept. 3, 2010

    Or, it could be that UCF is desperate for $ And recognition? So, it seems the Golden Knights are ideal partners.

    I'm sure Bronco & Mickey will have one heckuva fireside in 2014.

  • Utah Utes1
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:37 p.m.

    Given the result of BYU's actions (or in action) BYU should be looking to schedule Utah State at least 8 times in 2012. It's the least they could do.

  • JohnInSLC
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:32 p.m.

    "In 2004, Utah only played 3 regular season teams with winning records."

    PAC man: In your struggle to find a Ute put-down, you apparently forgot that one of those other 8 patsies was . . . wait for it . . . BYU.

    Good one. Do more, please.

  • mgdhunter
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:20 p.m.

    Central Florida could beat most of the bottom half of the MWC, so why is this a bad idea?

    Sept. 3, 2010 4:15 p.m.

    Uh, wake up folks, most schools already have schedules for the next few years. As was expressed in the press conference, it'll take a little while to get the schedule where they really want it. They just cleared their schedule earlier this week from the MWC games. Now they need to finish filling it. This is just a start.

  • Big Hapa
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:14 p.m.

    Let see the U of U has scheduled or wants to schedule with th Y and using the analogy that Utelogy is using that would put Utah in the joke, patsy circle, seem's that you would do your home work on teams that are lining up with the BYU before you type on the blogs.

    "POLY" Cougar Nation

    Sept. 3, 2010 4:13 p.m.

    Uh, hello, most schools already have schedules for the next few years. As was expressed in the press conference, it'll take a little while to get the schedule where they really want it. They just cleared their schedule earlier this week from the MWC games. Now they need to finish filling it. This is just a start.

  • PAC man
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:10 p.m.

    In 2004, Utah only played 3 regular season teams with winning records.

    This year, the Utes have San Jose State (2-10) at home.

    Until the Utes start scheduling Top 25 teams for every one of their OOC games, their pathetic troll fans should just keep their jealous, clueless comments to themselves.

  • red rocks
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:08 p.m.

    It's amazing to see how many of you are experts at scheduling teams to play against BYU. I am quite sure that most of you can't even schedule an appointment with your dentist when you want. Schedules are made years in advance and having a conference takes up 75% of the schedule. It won't come overnight but most of you can't figure that out because you still don't know who to call when you have a tooth ache.

  • Cougars - Wise Older Brothers
    Sept. 3, 2010 4:01 p.m.

    When the Utes join the PAC 12, watch them schedule a bunch of OOC cupcakes and then use the convenient excuse that their conference schedule is already too tough, even though they already have two cupcakes, Washington State and Colorado, built into their schedule.

  • kansascougar
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:59 p.m.

    The schedule could be considerd equal or improved to what they were playing in the Mountain West. The WAC-Pack doesn't help the SOS. But considering this whole process basically destroyed their conference we owe it to those teams to keep playing them as long as they would like.
    Oregon St., Notre Dame, Utah, Texas, UCF and TBD are the non- WAC
    USU, NMSU, SJSU, Hawaii, Idaho, L-Tech.

    The only opponent not confirmed is ND, but they do have a schedule hole in 2011 and it's highly likely.

    Rumored 12th opp. is KAnsas State or Arkansas or both because the Hawaii rule lets them add a 13th game.

  • BYU 26 Utah 23
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:56 p.m.

    Gotta laugh at the usual hypocrisy of the Utah trolls.

    Utah schedules San Jose State (2-10, 0-4 versus ranked) and Iowa State (7-6, 0-2 versus ranked) OOC, and then the Utah trolls whine about BYU scheduling Central Florida (8-5, 1-2 versus ranked).

    All things considered, I'm pretty sure most BYU fans would much rather be playing in Orlando, rather than Laramie or Pullman.

  • Uteology
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:45 p.m.

    2011 Schedule so far:


    New Mexico State
    San Jose State
    Utah State

    BCS Teams:


    If they get 2-3 more BCS schools they might be able to match thier MWC SOS. I am not sure if MWC teams will play them anytime soon so looke for more CUSA teams.

  • DoughBoyFresh
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:42 p.m.

    Hey CRB,

    Care to explain to me why Notre Dame is playing Western Michigan, Utah and Tulsa this year then?

    All you people are acting like we have to play a top 25 team every week. Just get over it. This will be a good game and I'm quite excited for it. Besides, it's not like we scheduled Florida International.

  • Pedro2885
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:40 p.m.

    Of course the Cougs will schedule some schools like UCF. Hopefully we can even do a home and home with Army or Navy and other schools as well as the storied programs like ND and Texas. My only problem is that both of the dates that were released are Fridays. I am excited about the ESPN deal but I really hope we don't be playing on all different days of the week. College football is meant for Saturday with maybe one game a year on a Thursday. I've never been a fan of the Friday night games.

  • Kid from Oregon
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:39 p.m.

    UCF future schedule includes Boston College, Kansas State, Pittsburgh, South Carolina, Connecticut, and Texas. Looks like BYU is in good company.

  • Kid from Oregon
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:37 p.m.

    Seems Boston College, Kansas State, Pittsburgh, South Carolina, Connecticut, and Texas have no problem playing University of Central Florida. Check the schedules. Looks like the Cougs are in good company.

  • Whoa Nellie
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:33 p.m.

    Once again the morons are out in force to comment on anything BYU. Chrissy, kidicky, and duggity you may now go back to your Wii and wee, wee, wee all the way home.

    Scheduling Central Florida is much better than scheduling a team like, say. . . a Southwest Baptist Bible College. They're good enough for bowl games so they're good enough for me.

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:23 p.m.

    Chris B, which of those 10 high school teams are you the water boy for, or are you and "alumni" water boy?

  • SportzFan
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:22 p.m.

    IN 2009 UCF played three teams ranked in the top 25 at game time, losing to Miami 27-7 and Texas 35-3 while beating Houston 37-32 near the end of the season.

    They were second in their division of Conference USA, and tied for second among all schools in Conference USA.

  • CRB
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:21 p.m.

    Now Central Florida will really raise the level of play. That will sell some season tickets. If BYU wants to make independance count and be considered as a BCS player they need have their schedule resemble a BCS conference schedule. That means 8-9 BCS teams. Only 4 need to be top 25 but 9 need to be in BCS leagues. How in the world does scheduling another non-BCS team help other than to fill the schedule. I know 2011 will be difficult to fill but come on, UCF has to count as one of your 3 walk-over games. Independance will not bring anything better than the MWC in moving the national meter if you don't schedule games that can do it. Drop all the WAC and MWC games and get to it. Its only been a week. This still sounds like a desperate program to me. Take a little time and do it right. Don't panic.

  • I_Love_America
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:20 p.m.

    What a bunch of losers you all are. They scheduled Notre Dame and Texas. You guys are pathetic.

  • wwookie
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:20 p.m.

    Now that BYU is independent, they can get tough opponents like the, the, ...what are the central floridians? the chippewahs or something?

    Just razzin all you blue faced cougars. Good luck to the cougars when they play central florida.

  • Chris B
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:06 p.m.

    Two big games and 10 high school teams - that's how the cewgies will be from here on out

  • kidicky
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:03 p.m.

    And this establishes your reputation as a national powerhouse how?

  • sports-junkie
    Sept. 3, 2010 3:01 p.m.

    Wow. This scheduling thing IS proving to be very difficult.

    Go Cougs!!! Beat UW!!!

  • BlueSaint
    Sept. 3, 2010 2:57 p.m.

    Good Times!!

  • duggity
    Sept. 3, 2010 2:56 p.m.

    Central Florida?! Are you kidding me? This is part of the amazing schedule that's supposed to come from being independant? These guys are a step below the WAC. Shouldn't this be 2 at home and one away for BYU scheduling a team this lowly? Is it supposed to be the recovery game for after Texas? What gives?

  • Timp
    Sept. 3, 2010 2:54 p.m.

    Pretty bleak 2011 home schedule, but hopefully just takes time to get the bigger matchups.

    Playing in Orlando is fun and great to see the flexibility the national schedule helps provide