Catholic school leader criticizes Gov. Gary Herbert for private school comment

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  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Oct. 2, 2010 7:12 a.m.

    Our children are over taxed with school and homework as it is. Kids need to be kids. The biggest problem with education in Utah is that our legislators don't want to spend a dime on it. They hide behind choice banners and charter schools while in reality they are funneling money into their own pockets... All legally of course. Get rid of the tests. Teach to the core and fund education. Those are the keys.

  • Doctor
    Aug. 31, 2010 5:26 p.m.

    The LDS school system is the seminary. And somehow, through no cooperation with the state land is available next to every school. And school administrators do the scheduling for you. (I went to Catholic school)

  • sodiedog
    Aug. 31, 2010 11:11 a.m.

    Hey, Jane, so where is the LDS school system? what did Pres. Benson actually do to back up his words re the importance of education? Are you aware that release time in other states is often in the early morning before classes begin. Math and Science are important, too.

  • PK Highsmith
    Aug. 31, 2010 9:30 a.m.

    If I paid $21,000 a year in tuition for my kids to get educated at that school, I'd expect them to get my back too.

  • jane
    Aug. 31, 2010 9:21 a.m.

    Maybe I misunderstood what I read earlier. I do realize that Seminary is no credit. In our (not Utah) area, the schools have gradually added so many required credits that the LDS kids have to go to summer school in order to also take Seminary. That makes it tough for kids who need or want to work in the summer, especially since our school year is now 10 months. Also makes it hard for those families who take vacations.

    Frankly, I think a lot of high school is a waste of time--and most of my teacher friends agree. Four of my kids actually started at the community college at 16--much more useful in life.

  • In Reserve
    Aug. 31, 2010 4:46 a.m.

    I am disillusioned by both canidates. I thought I was a Carroon supporter but now, this is so petty. Herbert seems a bumbling fool. Why does Carroon want to be his shadow?

  • souptwins
    Aug. 30, 2010 11:38 p.m.

    The ONLY candidate I've heard -- and I've been trying to listen closely-- bring up religion is Herbert. He brought up the scare tactic with seminary and now he's bringing up the school Carroon's kids go to. The most appalling part is that he's trying to make it look like Carroon is the one being divisive. Are you dumb enough to believe his spin? I'm not! I've probably voted more R than D in the past but this R is failing to impress, miserably!

  • Maudine
    Aug. 30, 2010 11:29 p.m.

    @ jane: Release time seminary counts for no credits anyway. The total number of credits required for graduation is not changing. The only thing that would change would be that there would be an extra year (2 credits) of math and an extra year (2 credits) of science.

    That is, however, 4 credits less of electives. So kids will have to choose - take a non-credit seminary release time class or take a for credit (but not needed for graduation) elective in something else that interests them.

    Last year, Buttars recommended cutting the 12th grade totally as most kids do nothing but electives that year anyway. (There is one required English class that year because English is required every year.) This would simply mean that Seniors would have 3 required classes instead of one.

    High school students have 7 class periods per year - 6 are required for graduation. This changes nothing.

  • jane
    Aug. 30, 2010 7:38 p.m.

    What I thought was a bit ironic was that someone who obviously values both a good and a religious education for his own children is apparently (from the reports I read) advocating the ending of released-time LDS seminary for LDS high school students--or at least making it much more difficult for them to both attend and graduate with the appropriate number of credits on time.

    Many LDS parents would love to send their kids to an LDS school if possible and affordable--failing that, they send them to Seminary and public school.

    As to supporting public schools, President Benson once said that the education of our children was too important to be left to a monopoly of the public schools
    Competition in education is like competition in everything else--it meets more and varied needs and leads to excellence.

  • Downtownchrisbrown
    Aug. 30, 2010 6:51 p.m.

    So, following the logic, if you buy books you don't support public libraries then.

  • regis
    Aug. 30, 2010 6:41 p.m.

    Herbert, if you or any of your campaign advisers are reading this, let me give you a bit of advice:


    Getting into petty squabbles like this is just plain foolish.

    The only way Corroon can beat you is through controversy -- and he's doing his best to sucker you into saying stupid things. And it looks like he's succeeding.

    Stay above the fray. Do your job. Focus on your positives. Let the other guy look foolish and petty.

  • eagle
    Aug. 30, 2010 6:23 p.m.

    Sounds like either one is likely to continue down what many perceive is the path to dismantle public education in Utah.

  • Democrat
    Aug. 30, 2010 6:11 p.m.

    While I do agree that it was a cheap shot to say that kids are off limits one day and then to bring up Corroon's the next, I don't think it is helpful to the Corroon campaign for this person with the Madeline School to weigh in. These comments risk making this a divisive issue and the centerpiece of the campaign. That is neither good for the Corroon campaign nor the community. But I also think the Governor's spokesperson is throwing gas on the flames to respond to Glenn as though he represents the Corroon campaign. If the Corroon campaign did encourage Glenn to weigh in it was dumb; but I think the best thing now is for everyone to shut up. If Herbert wants this issue brought up it reflects poorly on his character; and if Corroon wants it brought up then it reflects poorly on his political judgment.