Arizona helped deport thousands without new law

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  • ObamaRepublican
    July 30, 2010 9:54 a.m.

    Migration is not a crime, if we take a look at what a church Elder had to say:

    “The church’s view of someone in undocumented status is akin, in a way, to a civil trespass,” said Elder Marlin K. Jensen of the Seventy, relating it to coming onto someone’s property uninvited. “There is nothing inherent or wrong about that status.”

  • Speak English - USA
    July 29, 2010 7:36 p.m.

    Hey Pagan, what part of illegal do you not understand? I am so tired of reading your comments. Hey guess what? My ancestors immigrated to the U.S.A. about 200 years ago. They came here for a better life. They came here to escape tyranny. They came here to enjoy freedom.

    You know what the best part of this story is? They became LEGAL CITIZENS of the United States.

    Get the illegals out of our country!

  • Tekakaromatagi
    July 29, 2010 6:56 a.m.

    "Joanne Lin, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, said it is alarming that one Arizona county is responsible for a disproportionate share of deportations."

    Well there are two ways to fix that. Arizona: Stop what you are doing! Or "Everyone else: Get on the ball!"

    What will happen is some Al Qaeda types will pay some Mexican coyotes to get into Arizona. They will get pulled over by a police officer for speeding or something. He will think that they are here illegally but he will have to let them go after he gives them a speeding ticket.

    They'll go and blow something up.

    Then everyone will go, "There needs to be better communication and coordination between different law enforcement agencies!"

    Basically, we are codifying a system for different law agencies to not communicate about a problem that could potentially involve terrorists attacking the US.


  • Sokol
    July 28, 2010 3:47 p.m.

    Why are Mexicans give special treatment over all the other races and nationalities, when the federal government conspires to break their own laws in favor of one group of people over another?

  • Pagan
    July 28, 2010 2:02 p.m.

    12:20 p.m., thank you.

    All this talk of 'illegal immigrants'...

    and most forget they are decended from people who immigrated to this country themselves.

  • onewhotries
    July 28, 2010 12:20 p.m.

    When will you people understand that this is not your country. And therein lies most of the problems for white America,especially the white MALE living in America.Time's about up so I understand you don't want to give up the ship but, shall we fight, surrender, or go down ship and all???
    And while they're "rounding up the rest of the illegals", better get in line, Dustyredcliffs, 'cause if you check you'll find that you can trace your line back to being an illegal immigrant yourself!!!
    Everyone needs to grow up, learn,and develop some intelligence.

  • Tom Smith
    July 28, 2010 12:00 p.m.

    Still Jim's comment is quite astute. 40 years ago Law enforcement truly served our communities. Remember "if you ever need help you can always trust a police officer". TODAY, Law Enforcement is totally tilted to find something wrong with even the most innocent social interaction, and prosecute it with multiple charges to the fullest extent so that the DA can plea bargain for a conviction. The entire attitude is to create a problem even if one does not exist. The US is rapidly becoming a military state, ruled by groups of bullies and thugs, interlinking groups of SS. Law enforcement is out of control and I am not sure it can be stopped.

  • Dustyredcliffs
    July 28, 2010 10:39 a.m.

    Well now,Looks like Arizona can now round up the rest of the illegals,
    Go Arizona, America wants our country back.
    Your finly making it happen.
    THAN YOU....

  • FRED8
    July 28, 2010 7:49 a.m.

    I remember reading in text that in the late 1930s to 1945 something similar to this was happening,are our horns starting to show again there must be a better way.

  • Still Jim
    July 28, 2010 7:41 a.m.

    Officers are taught to lie in the academy and perfect it after leaving. They will not investigate theft, they will not investigate themselves, but they will investigate somebody who is a little different and who might make points for their year end bonus if they can be arrested. My wife, a hispanic, has been stopped twice for violating no law or ordinance and they officer was extremely rude each time.

  • KM
    July 28, 2010 7:29 a.m.

    Whats your point? The AZ law mirrors the federal law and its against the law to just ask for papers or identificaton with out a crime being committed.
    I like this Sherrif Arpaio, and I wonder who is behind the federal investigation. I'm sure its Eric Holder and the ACLU.

  • raybies
    July 28, 2010 6:12 a.m.

    The Arizona law, regardless of its original intent or the powers that exist in Arizona, really isn't about Arizona any longer. It's about a broken federal system. In that respect, even before coming into effect, it has been an enormous success in pointing out the impotence of Homeland Security's Immigration nod.

  • MikeRidgway
    July 28, 2010 4:14 a.m.

    The tilt of this story is so ridiculous. As reported in that other newspaper, I was, a year and a half ago, sitting in front of an apartment that I had lived in for years talking on a cell phone at about 10 in the morning in the Avenues. I was doing nothing suspicious. Just sitting in the car talking on the side of the road, like everyone in the legislature tells you you should be doing every time they think about making it illegal to drive and talk by mobile.

    A Salt Lake City policeman pulls up behind me. He comes to my door. What's the first thing he does? He asks me what I'm doing. I give him the only possible answer. I'm talking on my cell phone.

    What's his next request? Papers please, of course. I knew he had no reasonable suspicion that I was committing a crime, so I pushed back and asked what his basis for asking for my license was since I wasn't driving, and since I was obviously not committing a crime. Funny. The SLC Police chief didn't get investigated for violating my civil rights.