I think we will see in Boozer what we have seen with many players who have come
through SLC...they will not be as successful with another team and in another
system. Boozer has benefited from playing on a team that so strongly features
the PF and who has an exceptional point guard. Derrick Rose is good but he is
not D. Williams.
Miller is wildly overpaid, or will be, for what he brings. Biedrins
is slightly better than Koof & Fes.Monta Ellis is the biggest
ballhog/launching pad in NBA history; he & Sloan wouldn't last three days
Quit talking about "20-10" like a parrot, people! There's more to the game.
His defense was so bad that last year the Jazz were 2pts per 100 possessions
BETTER with him off the court, and he was ranked 240th in the league in adjusted
plus/minus. Do a little research.Factoring in durability, mobility &
toughness and Millsap's an upgrade.Boozer will do well (when not
"injured" 28% of the time) in Chicago. Why? They have a PG almost as good as
DW and they have a center who is orders of magnitude better than what we have,
at least defensively and athletically, who can cover for him.Boozer
should not be booed. He took the biggest/longest contract, like he always does.
He cost us nothing to get, and now we have a nice trade exception for a 2nd
round pick.We knew exactly what he was when we picked him up, this
shouldn't have surprised or offended anyone at all. It's always been about the
money for Boozer, nobody can be naive enough to think anything else. Bully for
him, the Bulls gave him way more than the Jazz would've.
We need to get Brad Miller.... then trade kerilinko for Monte Ellis and Andres
Biedrens...Good riddance Boozer ...
Old Timer:Part of the ESPN PollAll of them are now
coming out of the woods proud of themselves for where we areWhere
Boozer is a LOSER!!!!!!!!! get out of Utah carlos! please let the door slam you
on the way out! when you come back to play our Jazz, you WILL be
Boozer is a good player .... just not worth anywhere near what the Jazz paid him
and certainly not worth the 80 mil the Bulls will pay him. Boozer and Joe
Johnson of Atlanta are REALLY overpaid for what they produce and I think the
Jazz are lucky to unload him. Boozer was a decent rebounder but not a good one.
Boozer could score 30 some nights but often didn't show up when the Jazz needed
him the most. Boozer missed alot of work which you just don't do if you are paid
what he was paid. I think the Jazz can do better and I doubt the Bulls will be
satisfied with him.
I will not miss Boozer, but I think it would be really lame to boo him when he
comes and plays in Salt Lake next year. What is the point? I also very much
disagree with booing Fisher. I actually kind of like the guy... at least as much
as I can kind of like a Laker. I like giving people the benefit of the doubt.
Millsap has more upside potential than Boozer. Boozer is a better offensive
player (except against LA) until he is injured. The FA markets is
crazy right now. I do not see the right PF out there right now. The Jazz might
be able to get one near the trade deadline. PF is the least of the
Jazz worries. C is the big problem. The options are very limited.
The Jazz should be able to get Amundson or Mahimni for relatively cheap. That
adds some depth to PF/C.Trading Korver for Brewer is a bad mistake.
Getting Brewer for 2.5 mill and using him as a back up is a smart move. Without Boozer the Sloan Flex will morph into a different mode. They
will play small ball. The Jazz will need more outside shooting and rebounding.
Fes/Koufos can rebound but the points are going to have to come from the
wings.Brewer could be useful at SF if Mathews can shoot well enough
to open the floor at SG. It will take time for Hayward to learn the system and
develop. If the Jazz get a TE for Boozer they will eventually get
the right PF.
Anonymous infinityI agree with you on the depleted bench talk. To me
Boozer needed to be traded so we got something back but the jazz are always
scared to pull off anything. And Mcnamara, yes Millsap is shorter than Boozer
but on defense Millsap plays much bigger.
re:ennayrOk, who do you think would do better?A teacher
playing a NBA game, or a professional basketball player teaching a classroom of
kids?Careful, remember quite a few of the professional basketball players
have college degrees and are over 6' 6" tall.
Re: CougarClassicAre you suggesting that teachers deserve more money than
people out there signing contracts for huge money as in athletes, movie stars,
rock stars, and yes politicians. Give me a break. Teachers know going in what
their salaries will be. Why don't we just raise the minimum wage to $20, $50,
or whatever. Get real. These people don't have guns to the heads of team
owners, movie producers, etc. You nee to study economics. Of course athletes
are over paid. We all pay for all these things by the products we buy or they
wouldn't be making the money they do.
Anyone with half a brain cannot be celebrating the departure of Carlos Boozer,
simply because the Jazz are no longer a legitimate team. I don't care about the
detractors who maintain that he plays little defense or that he is unavailable
to play due to too many injuries. I don't care about that either. The Jazz
play team defense. In the first place they do not have enough quick athletic
players to contend with the elite teams. They refuse to guard the three point
line; and paranthetically the three has to go. I'm serious! It has completely
changed the game for the worse. Paul Millsap cannot replace a Boozer
talent-wise and this will denegrate the bench productivity. This will be a
transitional year for the team, particularly if they don't sign Matthews and
Korver. I think the Jazz are beginning a serious decline. They will not have
the guns to mount any hope of a playoff spot....period. I lament Boozer's
departure and the overall fact that the league is out of control with this free
agency situation. I thought the owners were going to hammer the Players
Association because of no money. Ha!
Re: The JudgeI happen to be a teacher and think your comment is
ridiculous. Try stepping into my classroom for a day and we'll talk!!
I see Snoozer and Osterdrag in the same league. Big mouths, little production
when it counts and only out for what is best for them. I was glad to see Drag
go - now I am ecstatic to see Snoozer go to where he can play down to the talent
he really has...
Chicago just shoe themselves in the foot. They are paying too much money for a
guy that won't play if his feeling are hurt let alone has a hangnail. Boozer is
soft and won't risk his body to take a charge or play hard defense. Good
I just don't see the point in bringing back Brewer. I'd rather bring back
Korver. Mathews gives you all the skills Brewer had plus he is a much better
Cougar Classic,It's not that society places a higher value on sports
figures than teachers. It's that there's not many guys that can score 20 points
in an NBA game.Most of us could be teachers or policemen. Not many
people can play in the NFL or NBA. That's why they make millions. They're hard
to replace. If only 360 people could be teachers or cops, teachers and cops
would get paid a lot more.
I wish the Jazz would try and keep Korver. I think he is a good shooter and a
great player. I think he will only get better. I will miss him next year he
reminds me a little of Hornacheck and I think that is what the Jazz need along
with a big man in the middle. I am glad Boozer is gone he did not really want to
play in Utah anyway so bye bye. Millsap will be great. I understand how hard it
is for the jazz to get big name talent in Utah not many players want to play in
Utah. So please please keep Korver and Matthews. Can't wait till the season
You malcontents have been bagging on Boozer for being "Undersized" the entire
six years he's been in Utah......You wanted Millsap and now you've got
him!!......You just got "SMALLER" and you're stuck with him!!
Like I said "This is the best money never spent". I was never a Boozer hater
because he played for my team. Now that he is outta here, I will be the loudest
JAZZ FAN BOOOING and cheering when D-Will drives through the lane and Boozer
lets him right past him in true Boozer defensive form. Trust that JAZZ NATION!!!
One reason I avoid NBA games is the lack of loyalty by the players to their
teams. I think college hoops are much more fun to watch. The difference in money
between 10 million and 15 million (or any such numbers) is ridiculous. Unless
you are giving it away, how would you notice? Your steaks won't be any better,
your bed any softer, nor your car any faster.Money corrupts and
makes many of these players insufferable (think Kobe). As much as I disliked
Karl Malone's attitude (sometimes) and his grammar (all the time), he was a true
professional and gave 100% ALL the time.
Are some of you that clueless about basketball?20 & 10 mean nothing
when the guy you're defending gets 25 & 15.
If I was a betting man, I would lay money on the table that Boozer will have one
of his mystery "injuries" when Chicago visits the Jazz next season to avoid the
torent of boos that would otherwise rain down upon him. On the other hand, if
Boozer plays in more than 75 games for the Bulls next season, we'll all know
what a fake he really is.
Fans, fans, lets all take a deep breath. Spouting and raging is bad for your
health and the image you give off regarding our city and state. I believe that
when the dust settles this year we are going to be a fun and exciting team to
watch and cheer for. We would not have won a title w/Booze and regarding other
losses we may suffer before everyone in free agency is done could lose other
quality players. But I believe the Jazz will present and have a "very"
competitive team this coming year, just watch! I predict we will finish as good
as this years team.
What kind of offer did the Jazz extend? Most likely none, it never got that far.
They sat on their hands until they could "see what kind of offers he was
getting" before they made their move. Funny thing about being an UNrestricted
free agent, though, is that when you accept an offer YOU LEAVE! It's not the
same situation as Millsap last year with the Blazers, you don't get a chance to
match on unrestricted guys. By the way, this is the same approach
they're using with Wes Matthews and if they're not careful they'll get bit on
that one too.
Boozer's only after $$ and has no commitment to any team. He showed that when
he bolted Cleveland and he's showing it again now (and last year). He's good
but he was supposed to be the next Karl Malone, which he isn't. And now that
he's signed with Chicago Lebron's choice is more limited; I'd be very surprised
if Lebron ever chose to play with Boozer after the Cleveland incident.As for missing Boozer I really doubt the Jazz will miss him that much. He
helped get us to the playoffs but that's it, there's no championship to show for
it and that, in my mind, is only slightly better than mediocre. And it seems
like it'll be sign-and-trade so the Jazz will still get something out of him.B'bye Boozer, good luck playing in Jordan's shadow!
I am curious what offer the Jazz extended to Boozer. Similar to thte Chicago
deal?Koufos looked good last night, granted against D-league talent.
Looks significantly thicker. He has to step up for the solid minutes open for
him.Wish we could have had a look at Tadija Dragicevic. He could be
an interesting addition next year.
Before someone gets their panties in a wad,when I said "we`ll be fine"...I meant
at the PF spot,with AK/Millsap,also Brewer would help at the 2/3 spot not at
5,too much coffee this morning
A couple things:1) It is really hard to get good coverage on this
issue. KFAN just says whatever the jazz want them to. The guys at the zone are
literally crying (BTW, with monson out, 8 hours a day of John and Hans is too
much).2) Im not too worried. Boozer was a great talent, much more
offensively talented than Paul. However, Paul makes up for it with effort.
Even with boozer, we were not going to compete for a title this next season. I
think that now we have a chance to really evaluate our talent. AK will be
inspired to have a good year, it being a contract year. AK always played better
w/o boozer anyway. I think w/o boozer, it opens playing time for Koufus, and
Fesenko and we can see where they are at and if we want to keep them long term.
Tomic could come in year after. We would have about 15-20 million next year to
try to pick some guys up. We are going to be ok. I think effort will improve
across the board.
Starting lineup,Williams/Matthews/Big Problem/AK/Big Problem...first the 3
spot,Miles....what can I say,Korver,probably gone,Hayward,potential,but a
rook,as I say big problem at the 3,I`d say Millsap,he`d get burned some but he
would give as well as he gets,makes our bench really weak.Now the 5 spot,Bigger
problem...Memo out,Koufos and Fes so far have shown very very little,getting
Brewer back would help some but not the answer.I love my Jazz....but we have big
Good player,but won`t get us to the next level,I`m thinking Millsap is gonna
tear it up this year along with AK,we`ll be fine...Hayward to the D-leaque???? I
don`t think so...oh and Millsap`s inside game better than Boozer??? what a laugh
Sorry Jazz fans looks like you ain't gonna have any improvement for the next
season. While every team in the NBA have either upgraded/improved their stock,
the Jazz aren't doing anything. KOC gambled and drafted the wrong
player....should have gotten Ed Davis or Patrick Patterson. Looks like Jazz are
aiming for the draft again next year. Well better say bye bye to Deron
Somebody wake up cougar classic and tell him what an average PF does...it is not
close to 20/10 in the worlds best league.Boozer was not appreciated
by the fans. His team who played with him and his coach who watched him are all
behind him as a man and a player. To me that speaks volumes and is better than
whiny fans who cannot see the forest for the trees. Boozer was great and Utah
will be lucky to find anyone with half his talent willng to play here.Ronnie Brewer returning? Did Kobe ask the JAzz to do that? Nobody in the NBA
has to guard Brewer outside the key. Nice guy but no shot.Jazz are
in danger of falling off the map. They have 3 centers none of which can play
center in the NBA and they are talking about Brewer returning????
re bugoff i think millsap inside game is way better than boz. boz was more of a
fade away jump shooter
Booz did good, but others will step up to fill the void he leaves. I'm not
worried. Milsap is awesome and our 7 footers are still evolving.All
will be well.I'm just hoping we can retain Korver.
Seriously, what NBA player would want to play in a town like SLC. You don't
aspire to be an NBA player so you can live in a "family friendly" environment.
You aspire to win an NBA Championship...just ask the Lakers!!!
Booze has been hated everywhere he goes because he only cares about money for
the minimum effort possible to get it, and has no heart or love of the game! I
Guarantee Chicago will regret this decision at least for THAT kind of money,
especially when the new CBA comes out and they see they are stuck paying a long
term contract double what they should have. That is a Worse overpaid contract
than AK's! ha ha ha! Good Riddance!Millsap fills the stats
just like booze when given the starting role and plays with heart and better
defense without crying about a sore stomach/toe and missing half the season to
keep himself fresh!Don't let the door hit you!
Boozer's not worth 80 mil. He wasn't worth it when he came to the Jazz and now
that he's older, he's even worth less than that.
Jazz fans like Chris Cook are so ignorant and don't appreciate the things that
Boozer has done for this organization. SHAME ON CHRIS COOK!!!
Fan House is quoting KOC as indicating the Jazz may get a TE for Boozer (nothing
else) as soon as Thursday. He also indicated he plans to get depth.
Not just anyone but someone who can help win. He indicated he would
contact Brewer to see if a deal could be worked after Mathews signs. The Jazz
plan to go smaller at least in the short run according to KOC. If
the Jazz have a 12 mill TE from Booz, a 6.5 from Harp and a 2.7 from Brewer and
get Brewer for 1/2 of the MLE they can add some very decent players between now
and the trade deadline. If Brewer comes back. Heyward goes to
D-league for much of the year. Who is going to shoot the 3s? Who is
going to rebound? Fes/Koufos can rebound but someone needs an inside game.
Boozer is a very good talented player when healthy. However, he was not the PF
the Jazz needed to win the West. He will help CHI when healthy. I think CHI is
stronger than MIA at the moment. MIA has no supporting players.The
Jazz can now regroup. They have to replace both Okur and Boozer plus maybe
Korver. Unless they get a TE from CHI for Boozer they only have the Harp and
Brewer TEs to get new players with. The current choices are limited. The Jazz need to be patient and get the right PF and C. They may have to wait
2 years to get the right ones. They might get a great player at the trade dead
line. The new CBA might change all of this insane free agency
posturing. There needs to be a hard cap at about 75 to 80 mill. Why should 2 or
3 teams hog all the best talent and reduce the other 28 teams to foils and
The idea that society places enough emphasis on sports that a very average NBA
power forward can make $80 million over the next 5 years is in and of itself the
issue at hand. We have teachers who have to work two jobs to survive, we have
police officers who always seem to be at-risk of losing their lives, we have
spent over a $trillion dollars on a war wherein innocent people have lost their
lives, we have people losing their homes right and left, we have both
politicians and corporate CEO's as corrupt as the day is long, and all we care
about is winning games and who likes our city versus some other city. The seemingly endless obsession with Labron James and the other Free Agents is
bordering on a societal detachment of reality wherein any reasonable thinking
person would discount such as hyperbole and a emotion-filled frenzy of an
aimless and leaderless nation.
As much as he made me angry, we just lost a 20 & 10 guy that won't be replaced,
well milsap will replace him but with memo out for maybe a year who's gunna fill
in? fes? Koufos? ha ha, they might work five times as hard and never have as
much production as booz did! This will be interesting. . .