Utah Jazz: Kentucky's Patterson benefitted from extra year

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  • Captain L
    June 11, 2010 7:12 p.m.

    Re Large Tuna : If the Jazz can't get Udoh, or Monroe or even Paterson, I would be OK with them getting Babbitt or George, both are long athletic 3's, with very good offensive games and the Jazz have a need at the 3 and then in 2011 they can bring Tomic over from Europe and he can give us some of the length we need. Which ever way they go I'm pretty sure we can get a quality player at #9 to help build the team to be able to complete for a championship in the near future.

  • Large Tuna
    June 11, 2010 2:39 p.m.

    CaptainL: I see you're point, and I agree Udoh over Patterson. I'm just saying its not the end of the world if we don't have a 7ft power forward; its been done before without one.

  • Captain L
    June 11, 2010 1:19 p.m.

    Re Large Tuna : Your right you can win with smaller PF's but that's not the question, the question is do we take Paterson who is shorter, with a shorter reach or take Udoh or Monroe who are taller & longer. As far as talent is concerned each one has his strengths and you could argue for each one but we want to and need to get longer if we can and there isn't much if any difference between the players talent wise. What I mean by that is that not one of them is head and shoulder better than the other two. Patterson seems alittle stronger and more physically mature than almost any of the PF's in the draft and that is a plus for him but how much of a plus? I like Udoh's game better, he is a better rebounder, shotblocker and loves defense, we need that. Uhoh's offense is more versatile, he can go outside and put the ball on the floor and create more like a wing and yet he can score inside with either hand.
    To complete with the Lakers we need to get taller and longer.

  • Large Tuna
    June 11, 2010 12:42 p.m.

    @jazzsmack: It doesn't matter if the pf position is undersized, it matters how the team plays together. Look at some undersized bigs who DO have rings:

    Ben wallace (6'9") C
    Udonis Haslam (6'8") PF
    Alonzo Mourning (6'10") C
    Glen Davis (6'9") PF/C
    Dennis Rodman (6'7") PF

    I could make a bigger list too. These guys listed aren't as good as the players you mentioned, and they have rings, so your argument makes no sense. Yea size helps, but its not a requirement. If Detroit can beat a tall Lakers team with a 6'9" center, then anyone can succeed without a lot of height.

    ...and come on, you're putting Larry Johnson in the same category as Malone and Barkley?

  • Maverick
    June 10, 2010 8:51 p.m.

    Jazz Brass...please pick Patterson. We need a replacement for Boozer.

  • Jazzsmack
    June 10, 2010 8:10 p.m.

    All the jazz need is another undersized power forward,

    How many championships do these great undersized high scoring, power forwards have?

    karl malone,
    charles barkley,
    elton brand,
    larry johnson,

    actually I could go on with dozens more,

    but answer is ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, 0.

    GET a tall lengthy defender, get someone who is physical, at power forward.

    YOu don't waste your time and money bulding a team around player who can not dribble and create offense,

    or who is not a great center.

  • BillM75
    June 10, 2010 7:16 p.m.

    Had the Jazz been willing to pay the luxury tax, we could have Pau Gasol. Memphis was giving him away.

  • BillM75
    June 10, 2010 6:57 p.m.

    Patterson seems like a good tough kid who'll be an effective backup PF, but 9 is too high. Would love to see the Jazz take at 15 or so while getting a great shooter at 9.

    But the fact is you can take the guys who'll be picked in the first round outside of Wall, Favors, Turner & Cousins and throw 'em in a sack and then draw one.

    They're all intriguing, but they all have substantial questions. 2-3 will be excellent, 5-6 will be megabusts, the rest will range from pretty good to mediocre/fringe, based mainly on where they wind up and how they adjust to the NBA on & off-court, which no one can know. Total turkey shoot.

    The predicted performance (based on history) falls off dramatically with each subsequent pick in the first round.

    Outside the first round, guys like Sap, Ginobili & Hornacek are like hen's teeth.

  • Jazz Cop
    June 10, 2010 2:21 p.m.

    Its hard not to like patterson, who knows, he might be the best player left at nine, he looks like he'll have a long and pretty good career. I watched his interview and I decided to be more positive for one day, so i'm starting tomorrow.

  • BillM75
    June 10, 2010 2:00 p.m.

    We have TWO 7 footers on the team already, why do we need to "go big"?

  • Large Tuna
    June 10, 2010 1:12 p.m.

    I think this guy is going to be the surprise pick in the draft and go much higher than anticipated. Most teams really like him; i have a feeling he'll be gone before #9 anyway. I also think Cousins will slip the most out of the top 10 players. I haven't heard anything about teams being crazy about him. Seems like another Beasley headcase.

  • Large Tuna
    June 10, 2010 1:10 p.m.

    I like Patterson; i'd be excited if the Jazz pick him. seems like another millsap/matthews type of player. Yes, we need to get bigger, but i think its more important that we get bigger at the C instead of PF. Like mentioned above, Boozer had a hard time defending gasol because we dont have a decent center to help out. The C's in the draft @ 9 are not going to be the answer; the best bet is to find someone in free agency. I'd much rather have a center who has already been in the league a few years that you know what you're going to get out of, instead of a gamble in the draft. Way too risky with big guys in the draft.

  • Captain L
    June 10, 2010 12:57 p.m.

    The problem with keeping Booz is the money, he wants max or close to it money and it would cripple management. Making trades or signing FA's would be very very difficult if they resign Booz. It would put them way over the cap and cost double what they pay him. He is alittle better than Milsap but not so much so that his money demands would make it worth keeping him. Milsap is a better defender and he is developing his offense, who knows how good offensively Milsap can be.
    Draft Udoh or Monroe and let Booz go!! If we can't get Udoh or Monroe, draft Babbitt and sigh a PF FA for a year, until Tomic can come over.
    Has anyone heard how any of the players the Jazz are considering have done in their workouts?

  • Tyler
    June 10, 2010 12:00 p.m.


    I would LOVE for us to pick up Gerald Wallace. Could you imagine how good our defense would be with AK and Wallace on the floor at the same time?

  • areyouinthere
    June 10, 2010 11:21 a.m.

    Jazz fans won't like this, but I'd be really happy about re-signing Boozer, drafting Patterson, and seeing if we can make a trade with Millsap for a legit 3. Boozer isn't undersized at the 4, he just has a hard time against the 7 foot Gasol without any help. EVERYONE DOES.

    Patterson measured taller than Boozer AND almost a full two inches taller than Millsap. He's 6'9"+ in shoes. Add his athletic ability, and he reminds me of Karl Malone. The guy is a stud, and he'd fit in perfectly with this team.

    Use Millsap to bring back a legit 3 (someone along the lines of Gerald Wallace), use the MLE on Brendan Haywood, and you've got yourself a basketball team. I'd think that PM would be very valuable. He's proven, and since his contract was so front-loaded, he's a bargain at around 6 mil. You'd think we could get something really nice for him.

    Haywood/Okur/Fes or Kosta
    Legit 3 (Gerald Wallace)/AK

    Now that's a team.

  • Jazz Source
    June 10, 2010 10:05 a.m.

    I think I am going to be ill.

    Here we go again?

    From the article:

    "And he's stretched an arguably UNDERSIZED body – 6-foot-8 without shoes, 6-9 with, 240 pounds and a wingspan of just 7-1,............into one capable of competing with those taller and longer.

    "I have no worries at all with my size going into the league, going into the next level," ....

    "If you can play, you can play," he added. "It doesn't matter how SHORT you are. It's all about your heart and how well you compete on the court."

    Great...he can play and he can compete.

    Newsflash..we already compete. We need a difference maker and yet another undersized player who can "compete" is NOT what we need.

    It think we have already seen the rerun of the movie of Millsap and Boozer standing underneath the Laker tall trees unable to see the rim on offense and stand as witnesses on defense as the tall Lakers get unimpeded views/shots at the basket.

    No thanks.

    Go BIG or go home.

  • Captain L
    June 10, 2010 8:19 a.m.

    There are things I like about Patterson, he is more mature, he has worked on his outside game, he's tough and a big thing is his motor. BUT we need to get taller & longer. We need to not forget what it is we need to be able to complete against the Lakers, Celts or other elite teams.
    Until I learn different, I like Udoh, & Monroe. Udoh is only an inch taller but he is 3.5 inches longer. Monrpe is 2 inches taller and 1 inch longer.