Elite fan club sues Jazz for $19 million

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  • Riles
    June 8, 2010 9:10 a.m.

    While I can sympathize with what the Jazz are trying to do as far as controlling their own ticket sales rather than letting scalpers do it, they are violating their contract. I am an upper-bowl season ticket holder, yet I think we should avoid the temptation to just kick the 100 Club Members in the head because they happen to have money.

    The fact is, they signed a contract with the Utah Jazz that benefitted the Jazz greatly at the time. If it was meant to have an expiration date on it, they should have thought of that 25 years ago. As it stands the two parties should have the right to a redress of their grievances. This is simple sanctity of contract. It's the constitutional law (at least it should be).

    Not sure why everyone is angry with the club members, it's the Jazz brass (also not poor) who violated their contractual obligation. Maybe it was a calculated move to create greater future opportunity. If that is the case, the Jazz have a right to back out and incur the default judgment as outlined in the contract.

    It's really basic civics folks.

  • The Final Word
    June 7, 2010 11:07 a.m.

    Unbelieveable really.

    I can't believe all the hatred on here for the (rich/privileged) people who payed ALOT of money for their Jazz seats.

    This would be somewhat equivalent to YOU buying a house in an exclusive gated upscale neighborhood. Then the city knocks down the fence and puts in a trailer court which DRASTICALLY DEVALUES your property and investment. Would you care about that?

    Suddenly different viewpoint huh? Or how about a company starts selling your car for 20% what you paid?

    Obama and his cronies mentality of socialism is creeping into your brain. Everybody is starting to hate/resent the rich just because they have for the most part worked hard and achieved the American dream.

    This is a flawed mentality if you like freedom and entrepeneurship...and keeping your own money.

    This whole Jazz issue is just a microcosm of that. People who don't earn things believe they are entitled to the same things everyone else has regardless of what it takes to earn it.

    Obamaites call it "fair" but I call it insidious and destructive.

    Anyone has a right to try to maintain their value of an investment and so do these club owners.

  • steve
    June 6, 2010 12:20 a.m.

    wiley your right,sorry on the @,& i still hope for a reasonable decision to be made on this & keep the Jazz here,instead of somewhere else.

  • rj
    June 5, 2010 11:41 p.m.

    I wouldn't be too worried, Elite People or whatever you are. There is not a fixed price on your tickets. They're subject to market forces in a free trading system, if I understand this correctly. If the demand for your courtside seat is great enough (making it truly elite), then the price will go up and you sell to the highest bidder. Where that will end up, nobody knows, but in affluent SLC it will certainly go higher than your "paltry" 20 grand. Only now you have to make an effort to sell them, if that's what you want. (I thought you wanted to keep the seats and watch basketball though...)

  • Wiley Old School
    June 5, 2010 6:20 p.m.

    @ = "at"
    & = "and"

  • Henry Drummond
    June 5, 2010 4:18 p.m.

    I have one of those "premium seats" and people have been "buying and selling" them for years. All the Jazz are doing is cutting out the scalpers.

  • jazzfan12
    June 5, 2010 2:24 p.m.

    Has anyone else checked out the website where the Jazz allow their season ticket holders the ability to transfer their seat rights? It's a pretty cool service that the Jazz have created for their 11,000 season ticket holders.

    It's called the Jazz Seat Transfer Marketplace. You can google or access through the Jazz website on the ticket page.

  • chuckie
    June 5, 2010 11:36 a.m.

    "fishead | 3:27 a.m. June 5, 2010
    Chucky, are you for real? Someone shells out $200,000 just to be able to purchase court side seats each year and they aren't real Jazz Fans?"

    I would guess that anyone that would sue the Jazz for $19 million that could go to purchase some talent isn't that big of a fan. I propose they are bigger fans of themselves.

    I would also go furher to assume that one of these member is a lawyer, and that this is not costing them much to file this suit.

    This will never go to court. A settlement will be reached.

    The Jzz are a business, and in todays hard economic times should be able to make decisions that help them financially.

  • Karl
    June 5, 2010 10:30 a.m.

    I think it's funny how people are attacking the Jazz 100 club as being snooty elitists. For one, it's just class jealousy re-capitulated. For another, this is not a tug-of-war between a bunch of "haves" and "have nots." Both sides of this argument are rich (Jazz 100 club and franchise owners). So even bringing their social status into the question is inane.

  • byronbca
    June 5, 2010 9:47 a.m.

    What a bunch of elitest posers! No wonder the Jazz are getting rid of their tickets

  • Cedar Jazz Fan
    June 5, 2010 9:44 a.m.

    I see several apologists for the Jazz 100 snobs claiming they have kept the team in town. I would love to know, outside of buying some expensive tickets, what these alleged "saviors" have done to really keep the Jazz in Utah. And exactly what is their loss from other season ticket owners having the ability to own their seats? They will still have the best seats to sell if they actually do sell them.

    I hope the Jazz stand their ground and prevail against these elitist bums. The Jazz 100 better have it in writing that it is an exclusive right or a judge should throw this nonsense out. Either way the Jazz 100 can take a flying leap.

  • County Resident
    June 5, 2010 9:10 a.m.

    I think this shines poorly on the Jazz. If the Jazz offered the 'Jazz 100' (i.e. the city movers and shakers) to keep the team in town, they should honor it. I wouldn't look down on the Jazz 100 club members. If they got something to keep the team in town, the team ought to keep their end of the deal.

  • Legalese
    June 5, 2010 9:02 a.m.

    Anyone stupid enough to pay a membership fee of $200,000 to watch a bunch of semi-illiterate men show off their tattoos and diamond ear rings should lose their money.

  • Not_Scared
    June 5, 2010 8:20 a.m.

    This abuse of the wealthy must end. I'm sick of hearing about how bad the homeless and unemployed have it.

  • Esquire
    June 5, 2010 7:59 a.m.

    What's so elite about this bunch. Good grief, grow up.

  • Jazz Cop
    June 5, 2010 7:50 a.m.

    as most people would get season tickets, just to get play off tickets, this group does the opposite, they plan on selling their playoff tickets to highest outoftown bidder, and then have the shamelessness to show up and act like nothing is wrong, i know these types.

  • Bugoff
    June 5, 2010 6:53 a.m.

    This was a very good and logical move by the Jazz. Allowing 11000 season ticket holders to sell their seats enhances the value of those seats and is the normal arrangement for many clubs. It makes it a lot easier fill the arena and sell season tickets.

    I am not sure if there is ground for the suit unless the original 220 club tickets included an exclusive right that allowed only those tickets to be resold and a specific clause that prohibited extending resell capability to other seats.

    It probably gets settled out of court.

    It is set of businesses arguing with another over fine print. It is basically business as usual.

    It also means that the Jazz organization is focused on it's very broad community fan base and considers that to be the future of the franchise.

    If the Jazz are ever sold I hope they do like Green Bay and sell the organization to the fans. Basically take it public or quasi public.

  • RichardB
    June 5, 2010 4:38 a.m.

    These are the people that helped keep the franchise in Utah. They bought their seats as an investment in the future.

    Poor planning by the Jazz. The treat the people that support them poorly.

  • fishead
    June 5, 2010 3:27 a.m.

    Chucky, are you for real? Someone shells out $200,000 just to be able to purchase court side seats each year and they aren't real Jazz Fans? How much should they have to pay out to become a "real" fan? How much have you paid out to obtain your "real" status. What have you been smoking???

  • steve
    June 5, 2010 3:10 a.m.

    how to lose your favorite team,in 19 million dollars or less.y didn't the 100 club go to the Jazz front office and try to settle this?there is no way the Utah Jazz can pay 19 million dollars and stay here..ive lived @ died with this team since 79,i hope there is a reasonable way to settle this.if it doesn't im going to be spending my time,wishing we had a team here,o,ya we did..this is great..

  • steve
    June 5, 2010 2:29 a.m.

    let's say the 100 club wins.aren't they so post to be the foundation of financial support,@ love of heart of keeping the team here? y couldn't they go to Jazz management @ work out this with them? there's no way the Utah Jazz can pay 19 million dollars law suit,and stay in Utah..when they win this,@ the Jazz are in Anaheim,or Louisville,will they show up to the ESA in febuary and sit in a blue seats,@ wait for an NBA team to play a game,from 2 other city's @ cheer for 1 of them that's from Louisville,or Seattle. can u here the conversation with 2 of the people there saying,i hope we get an NBA team here soon,o ya,i used to be in the Jazz 100 club,it was great,i got all this money from the law suit @ now i fly to phoenix and catch as many Suns games i can.this could only happen to me @ my team,that ive died for since 79..thanks 100 people..now i can have boring winters..

  • Chucky
    June 5, 2010 1:04 a.m.

    These aren't real Jazz Fans

  • Flashback
    June 5, 2010 1:01 a.m.

    So, some more rich dirtbags are complaining. Too bad. Maybe this is the source where the scalpers get their tickets from. What a bunch of crybabies. Put them up on the top row so they can see how the rest of us live.

    Stinking whiners.

  • Elcapitan
    June 5, 2010 12:01 a.m.

    Every athletic club has it elite group...people that want to be identified with the club royalty at any cost.
    Now the Jazz Elite 100 shows it's head. I wonder who they are and if they are really the "elite". Hmmmmmmm

  • Joe Moe
    June 4, 2010 11:53 p.m.

    So they bought these seats with the expectation of selling tickets on a regular basis? I can see why they'd be mad if they intended to sell their seats for a significant number of games, helping cover the cost of their membership. If they're regular attenders, then they're out nothing really. They still get to sit where they always sat. It's just the resell value that takes a hit. I can see why they'd be mad, whether I'm sympathetic or not (not, really).

    As far as entertainment goes, it will be interesting to see how this goes down legally. As far as how much I care, well...whatever.

  • Carpe Diem
    June 4, 2010 11:41 p.m.

    I'm trying to figure out if this 100 Club thinks highly of themselves. Cry me a river! Sheesh.