Brad Rock: With Jerry Sloan at helm, Jazz fought good fight

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  • Sokol
    May 12, 2010 4:49 p.m.

    I am in agreement with all those who say that the MVP of the playoffs was CJ Miles...for the Jazz anyway. I am not a huge fan of his, but he played with intensity and desire everynight. I think he will be a main scorer next year.

  • SportzFan
    May 12, 2010 9:27 a.m.

    Bugoff, the Jazz moved up to get Deron. Were you not paying Attemtion?

  • Jazzsmack
    May 11, 2010 11:17 p.m.

    RE: Peck34 | 2:10 p.m

    If the lakers have 9 1st rounders,
    and the jazz only 3 1st rounders,

    lakera a bunch of championships,
    the jazz none.

    Then there is a problem.

    SLoan is not developing the 1st round draft choices, ( the same way jackson is, sloan believes it is beneath his position to teach them anything, that player should somehow magically figure it out for themselves.)

    they haven't had much success in the second round either ( russell a mediocre SF with good work ethtic, and and overpaid undersized milsapm, that's it in over two decades)

    OR Management and sloan are not drafting the right players, an are lacking in the ability the evaluate talent and poltential

    I believe it is both.

    and therein lies the problem.

    not to mention the jazz are TOO dependent on sloan and his system,

    it affects their game, who gets to play and develop, who they sign or let go, trades, and who they draft.

    while it works inthe regular season, playing at home, and playing mediocre or lesser teams,

    it doesn't work sowell in the playoffs, against better teams, and most success there has come from luck.

  • Large Tuna
    May 11, 2010 5:28 p.m.

    i've never been a CJ Miles fan... until last night when he stuffed the ball down Fisher's throat. Welcome to my good side CJ!

    He has improved quite a bit. I think its pretty obvious that the biggest plus-side of this year was matthews, but CJ really stepped it up the last half of the season.

    I think Boozer is over-rated in that he is as good as he is because of the pick and roll system and a pg like dwill looking for him. put him on a team with a crappy pg and watch his stock plummet. In other words, he's replaceable. i'm excited to see who we pick for the draft. maybe try to trade up to get a derrick favors player? we did it before and ended up getting the best pg in the game, let history repeat itself KOC!

  • RichN
    May 11, 2010 3:55 p.m.

    I love Sloan for his just gritty, let's play together and scrap out a win or two. Otis1978 said it perfectly as he pointed out the Jazz weren't even favorites over the Nuggets, but here comes Jerry's coaching them to victory.

    The problem with the Laker's, besides great talent and a clear height advantage over Utah, is their coach, Phil Jackson. Yeah the same coach who handed Utah, by care of Chicago and Jordan, their first playoff great run to getting beat. Jackson just has Sloan's offense and defense figured out. If Utah is to start winning over Phil's teams Sloan is going to need to change something.

    Problem here = Sloan Change? The guy is still a farmer and still farming probably the same way his dad taught him and he's probably great at it. Farming and Basketball are a little different though. Jerry's grind it out winning is great for 80-90%, or more, of the league, just not when playing against Jackson, coached teams.

    Maybe a new, younger, assistant for help Jerry, but please mentor the kid with what you already do before leaving, OK?

  • Rick
    May 11, 2010 3:53 p.m.

    The Jazz will NEVER make it back to even the W.C.F. with sloan trying to coach...He is too old & can barely walk, never gets out off his seat & can't even raise his voice anymore...The leader of your team needs to be tuff & show emotion, neither is given by this person...The sooner Jeff H. becomes coach, the sooner Utah gets the ship directed in the right direction..He'll teach the guys how to make foul shoots, play tuff defense by showing them on the court...Jerry probably can't stand for more than 10 mins. straight..Jeff will demonstrate on the court how to give a hard foul to a driving player, especially in the playoffs..Even Reggie Miller stated last nite that he's shocked this is Utah's elimination game & this is the tuffness ther're showing...Reggie mentioned a few times that Utah should give a hard foul !!!! I've been preaching that all year long on this blog site...Utah has NOBODY (except Fes) that will clock another player..I saw every other playoff team do it many times except Utah....Jeff would bring that tuffness to the team !!!

  • Fuzzbrain
    May 11, 2010 3:25 p.m.

    Most of us are sick of the Lakers, that goes without saying. However if you took Bynum & Gasol out of their lineup, or Kobe & Odom--they'd have struggled to win the same way the Jazz have without Okur & Kirilenko. Kirilenko isn't my favorite NBA player but at full health he probably would have contributed more than CJ Miles did in this series. I'd be willing to bet Artest won't be a Laker next season.

  • Peck34
    May 11, 2010 2:10 p.m.

    I found some info for all you Sloan haters out there:

    The Jazz roster has 3 1st round draft picks (Williams, Kirilenko, Koufos). Only 1 in the top twenty (Williams).

    The Lakers, on the other hand, have 9 1st round draft picks on thier roster. 4 in the top ten and 7 in the top twenty.

    Either Jazz management is doing a great job at picking the diamonds in the rough or Sloan is doing a great job with what he has.

    I want to see a Jazz championship as much as anyone - but I personally don't believe Sloan is the problem here.

  • CJ Miles
    May 11, 2010 2:10 p.m.

    My man CJ was great against the Lakers. He is going to be a huge asset the the Jazz next year.

  • TrueFan
    May 11, 2010 1:39 p.m.

    A very solid season, but one that unfortunately ended the same way as the previous two seasons. If I'm GM, what do I do? Resign Boozer, trade Kirilenko (his expiring contract is very attractive for teams looking to be players in next seasons free agency market), draft the best available center with the ninth pick (assuming our draft position doesn't change), and keep your fingers crossed that the team will be completely healthy for the playoffs next season. This team is very close to contending for a title. They just need a defensive presence in the middle, and a healthy roster when it matters most. They are still a pretty young team. Only Memo is over 30 years of age.

  • louisiana jazz man
    May 11, 2010 1:30 p.m.

    we will win about the same amount of games with or with out boz or okur. most games this year okur was on the bench at the end of the game millsap and boz and kirlinko were in. the ones okur was in was about 5 we lost 3 of those. when ever boz was on the bench we seemed to play better. most games we were behind and had a run boz and williams were on the bench. but we caint beat lakers with boz and millsap even tho they played good for the most part. fes and kufes have to get more playing time or boz or millsap have to go for a bigger player.think that means boz has to go he will want 15 mil. millsap 8 mil. probly get a player for 6 to 8 mil to replace boz that may be better than boz in the systeam.

  • scodyshootfight
    May 11, 2010 1:04 p.m.


    Booz is NOT a top 2 or 3 power forward. I just can't believe you would pay him all that money (that will cost the Jazz double, because of the luxury tax) to bring him back when he can't play D or demand a double team. The rebounds and the sweet left hand can get you some stats in the regular season, but all that goes out the window if you can't play DEFENSE and have the ABILITY TO COMMAND A DOUBLE TEAM. If Booz can't do that, then let's get his lazy attitude off the team, send Memo with him, and get a team we can enjoy watching again; a team that doesn't chicken out when they go on the road and start looking for their own stats.

  • Bugoff
    May 11, 2010 12:12 p.m.

    The Jazz have been dismal in drafting in the first round. They also are not willing to move up to get the talent they need to draft.

    Fix those problems and Utah can get the talent to beat LA.

    The problems are not UT and it's life style. The small market is a myth. This is one of the most profitable NBA teams. It has nothing to do with city size.

    The Jazz have done a lousy job of getting the right talent and enough of it.

    Stop hiding behind "small town" and "culture". SA is a smaller SMSA than SL. They have 4 rings. They got the talent they needed. Talent attracts talent.

    Get a big PF who can shoot and defend and replicate the Stockton Malone days. That included wings who can shoot and a team that can defend and has some depth.

    The problems are in the front office and are fully fixable.

    Make changes when they need to be changed. Don't wait until they are forced on you.

    The fans deserve better. Except the ones who think all is well and are happy to get bounced by LA.

  • ECR
    May 11, 2010 11:45 a.m.

    Hubie Brown explained that Deron Williams, Steve Nash, and Chris Paul (and maybe even Chauncy Billups) are perfect point guards for the situation they are in - for where they're at. I think that same thing could be said for Jerry Sloan. His 'no nonsense', small town attitude is perfect for Utah (Salt Lake) but may not be suited for other cities/teams/players. Much was said about the fact that the Jazz are short on lotterie picks (which means they almost ALWAYS have playoff seasons) and long on player projects (second round or undrafted players). That is the kind of player that appreciates working and living in Utah and that works for the Jazz. It seems they are one looooong player away from becoming a great team. Maybe Fez can get there in 2-3 years. Maybe they pick someone up in the draft/trade. Congrats to the Jazz (team and coach) and thanks for the entertainment. You were great this year and you'll be better next year.

  • Bugoff
    May 11, 2010 10:56 a.m.

    I will give you one some coaches who could replace Sloan.

    1. Adelman. He adapts to the capability of his players and can get the most out of what he has to work with. He does have two systems or approaches and uses them both as needed. He is weak on defense. He is happy in HOU and has a better situation than UT. He is as old as Sloan.

    2. Gentry has improved the PHO system and got a lot out of turmoil, to stars and an bunch of no names. He is flexible and does what he needs to win. He will only get better.

    POPs, McMillan, obviously the LA coach and the OKC coach are some others who could replace Sloan. McMillan is about the only one who might move.

    I thought this was Sloan's best coaching year. He deserves credit for doing really well with difficult circumstances and for making changes that he should have made 2 or more years ago.

    In my opinion he is a top 5 coach but the Jazz could replace him with the right coach and still win just as many if not more games.

    Beating DEN was great.

  • B Russ
    May 11, 2010 10:45 a.m.

    I agree with Doug that Boozer a top 5 power forward in this league offensively, but only during the regular season on a contract year.

    Defensively for power forwards, he is probably around 59th or 60th, if that.

  • Bugoff
    May 11, 2010 10:37 a.m.

    I would disagree to some extent on Fes. He hit Kobe in the head and also again when he came into the lane. He hit Gasol hard.

    This game was the best I have seen Fes play for a long time. The Jazz went forward (for the most part) when he was in and immediately went behind when he went out.

    He finally rebounded. He has a long ways to go on offense but based on what I have seen in the playoffs if he gets 20-30 minutes a night next season he will progress pretty fast.

    It will take him 2-3 years of solid playing time to become an offensive force. He may never become Shaq. But he can be as good as Bogut in the long run.

    One reason Bynum did not do well is Fes. Gasol also took some jump shots. He was paying a price on the inside.

    I have no delusions about Fes being great right now. He started to live up to his defensive potential last night. He has to get an offensive game to really be helpful.

  • SC Jazz Fan
    May 11, 2010 9:14 a.m.

    I only missed a game or two on TV this season and it was an enjoyable season. They generally played hard and I can live with great effort in a losing campaign. I agree with Rock that 2003-04 was probably Sloans best coaching year and it was great to watch that team win 42 games. This year it is frustrating that the Jazz could not get one more season win, the division title and avoid the Lakers until round 3. All, history I guess. Fes is still a long way from a serviceable center but calmed down a bit on the court in the playoffs. The Jazz are better with Booze but the Jazz will not stay in the luxary cap to keep him. Maybe a lucky ping-pong ball with come! I am looking forward to the end of October. (Go Celts, Suns, Magic!)

  • Doug10
    May 11, 2010 8:38 a.m.

    Scody shooter

    Can you tell me which team in its right mind would look at getting rid of the 2nd or 3rd best PF in the NBA? I can't conceive of that and think I know anything about basketball.

    The result might just be similar if we went to the finals as I suspect Lakers would be there taking advantage of our 2 starters out and injured.

    You are correct in that the team did take on anyone and everyone this year, and beat them regardless if they were good or bad and it was enjoyable.

    You are out to lunch thinking Fes will have a breakout year. He has about 1/10th the talent of Bynum and Bynum is still learning and he had a whopping 7 points last night.

    Fes is years away from making a big impact on the outcome of games. He has the athletic prowess of Eaton but is 5 inches shorter.

  • Buzz
    May 11, 2010 8:32 a.m.

    Good fight Jazz. Hopefully for your sake you can get a great player in the lottery and join the elite of the NBA soon.

  • scodyshootfight
    May 11, 2010 7:28 a.m.

    Our season "ended" on that last regular season game against the Suns. We win that and we're in the conference finals.

    On a positive note, this team, despite being swept, turned into a team I could root for again, because the effort was there. I don't care if my team gets swept as long as they're laying it out on the line. They haven't been doing that for the past two years, and I believe it's in large part been due to Memo and Booz (and CJ). They've been such lazy players. I like our new guys coming up because the majority of the guys now getting minutes are busting their butts and will improve dramatically with an entire season of playing time. I predict a breakout seaons for Fes on the offensive end of the floor. About the only time he tried a low post move on Bynum he scored. Getting Memo and Booz off the team will change our attitude, especially on the road. Thanks to all the players who finished the season with pride.

  • otis1978
    May 11, 2010 5:36 a.m.

    I'm a Lakers fan, but I have to say, the Jazz always play hard, and a lot of the reason is Jerry Sloan. I think he's a great coach, who gets the most out of his players. The Jazz were just over-matched with two starters out and not the same caliber of players. I think realistically, everyone knew the Lakers were going to win the series, but the Jazz put up a good fight. On paper, the Lakers should have won by 15-20 points every game. For those of you who are hating on Jerry Sloan, there's a lot of lousy coaches out there. The Jazz over-achieved this year. No one outside of Utah thought they would get by the Nuggets, who fell apart with bad coaching once George Karl was out. Good luck to the Jazz in the coming years.

  • the Mailman
    May 11, 2010 2:14 a.m.

    Is this guy for real?
    Brad Rock is a PR man for Jerry Sloan and the rest of the Jazz front office.
    I've never heard so many excuses for failure in my life. Hey Brad, can you give me a run down on the previous 21 seasons?