Poll shows Sen. Bob Bennett in trouble with Utah GOP delegates

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  • majmajor
    April 27, 2010 8:12 p.m.

    REF: Laurels | 7:35 a.m. April 25, 2010
    The below are the lead statements from your paragraphs. My statements will follow each starting with the "---". Can anyone explain to me how the U.S. Military are represented in this process:

    "The people who attend the caucuses typically have a higher level of engagement in the political process." --- Military put their lives on the line to protect our freedoms. There is no higher engagement.

    "The delegates elected at caucus meetings spend time attending functions where they interact face-to-face with the candidates." --- Service member are not given this opportunity.

    "Is the caucus system unfair? To suggest that those who take the time to engage in this effort don't represent the will of the people is lame." --- I don't think that either party wants to tell the members of the U.S. military that they are, "lame." They patrol while you sleep warm in your bed.

    --- The U.S. Military guards the door. Members serve with pride, but are alienated by the mass meetings. They pay Utah Taxes, but receive little or no services from this Great State. The primary is their first chance to vote.

  • haybob
    April 27, 2010 7:21 p.m.

    It is laughable to call Mr. Bennet a liberal. He is a pragmatic Conservative. He has done a good job for the state of Utah, and it's people. Our Republican Party is not going to be the majority party again if we continually run off anyone who is one iota to the left of Rush Limbaugh

  • state_delegate15
    April 27, 2010 9:17 a.m.

    As a delegate, I have spent countless hours attending meetings with candidates, researching their stances, separating truth from slander, and making informed, educated decisions. Whenever I get feedback from non-delegates, many of them don't even know who the candidates are, much less what they stand for.

    I'm a believer in the delegate system. It is a way for those people who truly care and have the initiative to do their homework to be involved and make informed decisions. Their votes are based in fact and research, not in reaction to a big name or a cool sound byte. It also filters big money out of the process; why does Bennett need $3 million to cater to 3,500 delegates? He doesn't. Money is needed in a primary, and this is where a lot of corruption, and the perpetual, blind re-election of incumbents usually occurs.

    The claim that bringing in Mitt would influence me is laughable; maybe that will hold sway in a primary, but not with delegates. I haven't spoken to one delegate yet who is blindly voting based on emotion, anger, hatred, or awe of celebrity.

  • Utah_1
    April 27, 2010 8:21 a.m.

    With time running out?
    There are 4 candidates that seem to have a chance of winning the GOP nominee for US Senate. Mike Lee, Cherilyn Eagar, Tim Bridgewater and Bob Bennett.

    As the pollsters learned 2 years ago when Jason Chaffetz won, trying to guess what will happen at convention is pretty tough.

    We do have two county delegate polls taken at Weber and Utah GOP County Conventions. Both had Cherilyn Eagar taking 2nd place over Bob Bennett and Tim Bridgewater. These two counties represent over 27% of the state delegates.

    With a 3 round ballot system, any of those that make it through the 1st round could win, even if they don't get 1st place for round 1.

    I believe that Cherilyn Eagar is the only one running who has supported and been active in fighting for conservative values for the last 30 years at the local, state, national and international level.

  • Conservative Veteran
    April 26, 2010 3:21 p.m.

    I as a state delegate was never polled on this election. As for myself, I will definitely be voting for Mike Lee. The negative destorted adds of Bennett will not help his cause.

    As for Mitt's influence, not only will I not be voting for Bennett, but I will not be voting for Mitt if he becomes a candidate for President either. He has become the endorser of choice for RINO's nationwide.

  • goatesnotes
    April 26, 2010 12:36 p.m.

    Such a laugher -- when the caucus rules were set in place they once favored incumbents, and don't think for one minute that Bennett was in favor when it favored him. He just didn't count on an aroused, educated, and motivated electorate. He thought they would always remain dumbed down and he could keep his perpetual entitlement as Senator until the day he dies. Wow, after spending $500,000 in Q1 2010 (ten times more than his next closest competitor), that will go down as one of the most striking political miscalculations of all time! May 8th will end it all, then the recriminations will be begin -- "the process cheated me." I can hear it all now. Oh, except I helped create the current process as a sitting Senator who was consulted for my input by the party back in the good old days when my opinion mattered and was sought after. . . oh, for the good old days.

  • neltz
    April 26, 2010 11:11 a.m.

    Dear Mr. Bennett -
    What would you say if we proposed that from now on, senators are to whittle it down to 2 opposing bills on every issue - and then we allow the "people" to vote?

    You would say, "let me do what I was elected to do."

    I was elected as a delegate by the people in my precinct. Let me do what I was elected to do.

  • Matteo
    April 26, 2010 9:17 a.m.

    "it could raise the question of whether the current convention-primary system... is actually a fair and open process."

    Say what!? The DN has the gall to challenge this process? We live in a Republic, not a Democracy. Yes, we elect our representatives democratically (hence the term "Democratic Republic"), but we do not have a Democracy as our political system, and for good reason.

    If someone can't take the time to participate for 2 hours on 1 night every 2 years, then they deserve to lose their voice in the process. We elect representatives all the way down to the precinct level. If you don't like what the precinct officers (delegates) do, then go and make your voice heard. The choice to not participate does not make the system unfair, nor is it unfair to ask you to live with the results. Utah's process is a grassroots as gets in the US, and I for one, would like to see more states adopt the same system. CO for example elects its State Delegates from the County Convention. Here in Utah, we elect State Delegate directly from the precincts, a much fairer and more representative system.

  • randy13
    April 26, 2010 8:55 a.m.

    let's start at the top .. term two bob .. is now looking for his 4th ?? (a lie to you and me, misrepresentation of the facts for bennett) and besides he liked the money and the world travel on lobby money not to mention the lobby money in his re-election war chest

    voted for deregulation of the banking industry, which lead to the world wide meltdown which lead to the bailout vote .. wow full circle on the same trillions of dollars

    subsidizes the corn industry, which feeds the cows (not grass anymore - money you know) which cause deaths from ecoli, bennett isnt helping (kinda stalling the corn and beef lobbyists you know) kevin's law to put some regulation back into the food industry

    monsanto destorying anybody who grows soybeans, bennett looks the other way ... and federal employees who are the regulators in that industry are former big whig monsanto employees ..

    no, utah has awakened .. bennett (and hatch in 2012) are gone ..

    the sad thing .. their lobby groups will hire them and DC business will continue as usual

    incumbents out .. challengers in

    good luck to us all

  • youngsterz
    April 26, 2010 8:55 a.m.

    Beg to differ: Utahns and Utah Republicans most definitely do not prefer to keep Bennett. Bennett's poll numbers are poor, across the board, among every section of voters or delegates. In none of these polls does he ever get above 50% in approval or votes.

    I think that most of the new delegates, who are in favor of a new US Senator from Utah, DO represent the majority of Utahns. How do you think they were voted as delegates? Do you really think that they each brought 100 people with them to their caucus meetings to stack the deck?

    Most Utahns are ready for something different, something better, someone who isn't such a big Washington spender like Bennett has been. We understand that you have to reduce spending in order to get us out of the mess we're in, and Bennett has an 18 year track record of spending. He had his chance. Now he will be replaced by someone else.

    It is the ultimate hypocrisy to complain about federal debt and spending, and then vote to send back a guy because he has seniority and can maintain Utah's place at the trough.

  • John C. C.
    April 26, 2010 12:43 a.m.

    Utahns in general prefer to keep Senator Bennett. Utah Republicans prefer to keep Senator Bennett. State delegates my not prefer to keep Senator Bennett, and since their supporters attended and the others did not, the passive majority will only have themselves to blame.

  • geezergary
    April 25, 2010 10:27 p.m.

    Don't be too hard on Mitt, his support of Bennett is a loyalty thing. He's still our best hope for the future. To call him a big government guy is just silly. He pulled both MA and the SL Olympics into the black. He's smart, experienced and understands the free market. His support of McCain is likely because he thinks it's better to have him inside the tent kicking the rocks out than outside kicking them in.

  • facts_r_stubborn
    April 25, 2010 10:08 p.m.

    Neil T.

    I have personally witnessed people on the far right yelling and screaming about issues and not even listening to answers from their elected representatives. They appear to be very cynical and hateful people.

    As an LDS person, I'm ashamed to say many of them are LDS. They don't represent any of my values any more than someone on the far left does.

    They are just as dangerous for the country and just as mean spirited. The radical right and radical left are two peas in a pod. They have no civility or dignity in them, and figure the ends always justify the means.

    Take heart, America will not be ruled by thuggish individuals who would force their view on others and to whom the ends always justify the means.

    I also agree with "thoughtful voter" that a majority, even at convention have always been reasonable and thoughtful citizens doing their civic duty. However, it appears many this year are being unduly influenced by groundless claims and the clamor of the perpetually angry.

  • youngsterz
    April 25, 2010 8:46 p.m.

    I would love to see a Bridgewater/Lee primary, and "force" the people to actually research the candidates instead of doing the typical lazy thing of just voting for the incumbent.

    I'm a first time delegate, first time caucus meeting attender, first time involved in anything political. I got involved specifically because months ago I realized that things were going the wrong way in our country, and if people like me didn't get involved, then we deserve our fate.

    I took a close look at what I could do here in Utah to help get things back on track, researched the issues and the candidates, and determined that the delegate process was the way to go. I took the effort, put in the time, campaigned, brought people to vote for me, and got the state delegate position.

    All with one specific intent: Do all I can to see that we have a new senator from Utah, because Bob Bennett is BAD for Utah and BAD for the US. He will spend us into oblivion if send him back. He is a big part of the problem.

    See you at convention Bob. There will be no fourth term.

  • CJ
    April 25, 2010 7:48 p.m.

    I was there as a delegate. I can tell you Bennett is done. Nobody wants any part of him. He has lost all credibility, nothing left. His campaign people couldn't give his stickers away or pay people to take them. If he is really lucky he will finish third. He is the first choice of very few and the second choice of none. If there is a second round those whose candidate lost won't support Bennett, they will go with someone else. He brought this on himself when he decided to be a Democrat.

  • RShackleford
    April 25, 2010 7:37 p.m.

    22% for Bennett...That sounds about right considering that about 20% of the delegates are the "lifers", Those that have been elected to office, and with that honor comes a lifetime appointment to be a Utah GOP State Delegate. This would correspond with the list of supporters put out in a mailing by Bob Bennett touting the list of former and present Utah Gov., Mayors, County Commissioners, Sheriffs-etc. This is the old (business as usual) UT GOP group that doesn't get it.

    Me? I am part of the 70-80% that are first time State Delegates. I support Mike Lee but if would have no problem voting for any of the other challengers for Bennett's seat in a second or third round of voting. As for Bennett...No way.

  • Cats
    April 25, 2010 6:24 p.m.

    Although I have not real problem with Bob Bennett, I have to admit that his anti Mike Lee ads are really tacky. They make Bennett look desperate and nasty. I will have no problem if Bennett is re-elected and everyone must know that his seniority will be of great benenfit to the state. But, those anti Mike Lee ads could kill him.

  • Emjay
    April 25, 2010 6:20 p.m.

    Everyone needs to understand...Many of those who attend caucuses and get elected as Republican delegates are far-right people, many of whom could not even be called Republicans. Some of them actually go back and work in other parties after the convention. This has been a problem in several counties for some time. In Utah County, the far-right has been trying to take over our party for many years.

    If Bennett can survive the convention, he has an excellent chance of winning the primary where mostly actual Republicans will be voting.

    And to gogosian 2061...it is only in recent years that Republican primaries have been closed. They used to be wide open to anyone who wanted to vote in them. Fear caused the party to close the primary a few years ago because they were afraid Democrats would effect our primaries. At that point, Democrats hardly ever had primaries.

    It's unfair to compare Bennett to Cannon. Bennett has done a much better job--Cannon was an incompetent guy who should never have been elected to begin with.

  • Brer Rabbit
    April 25, 2010 6:01 p.m.

    The DN seems to have done a puff piece in support of Sen Bennett, in an attempt to help save him, much as they did two years ago for Rep. Cannon. Also, in case you have forgotten the Jones Poll was off in that primary by about 20%. They indicated that the 3rd CD primary could go either way, but Chaffetz won by about 20%.

    At this point, the delegate count is all that matters. If only 21.5% favor Bennett, his candidacy is a lost cause, and he could very easily loose on the first ballot, but certainly by the second. There could still be a primary, but Sen Bennett would not be in it.

    The reason for this is the high number of "anyone but Bennett" delegates. Very few of those supporting other candidates when their candidate has dropped out will support Sen. Bennett. They will simply vote for one of the other remaining candidates, making it difficult for Bennett to rise much above the 21.5% given here. If he doesn't get at least 40% at the Convention, he will not be in the primary or on the Republican Ballot this fall.

  • Patrick Henry
    April 25, 2010 5:29 p.m.

    Bail Out Bob got booed at my convention. Mike Lee and Bridgewater got some great cheers. Mrs. Eagars arguement of "please elect me so I as a conservative woman can neutralize the liberal women sneators" just did NOT fly with me. Lee and Bridgewater are the only REAL choices.

  • Madden
    April 25, 2010 4:04 p.m.

    Cannon thought he would kill Chaffetz in the primary 2 years ago. Turns out the delegates actually do represent the voters, and Chaffetz won the primary by an even bigger margin than the convention...20+ points. Bennett should not feel too confident right now.

  • Thoughtful Voter
    April 25, 2010 2:16 p.m.

    re:Orem Native

    I was also a delegate at the Utah County Convention yesterday and can attest to the fact that many of the people who attend are thoughtful and sane. Sure, some are nuts and some are loud and some are obnoxious -- and an annoying minority are, indeed, all three.

    But most are just regular citizens with no political ambition sincerely trying to do their 'civic duty'. They listened to all the GOP Senatorial candidates (there are 8 this year!) and though Bennett gave the most relevant and specific speech I've heard him give in his career, those same delegates voted overwhelmingly against him. He came in a clear fourth place (not third as some have suggested above). I would have put him fifth. Maybe sixth. Certainly not the worst.

    Bob Bennett is not doing a 'great job', however. In his speech he could only take credit for sometimes voting the party line (like any of the candidates would do!). He is not a leader. He does not inspire. He does not research issues thoroughly enough to get out there and make a difference.

    It's time to release him with a vote of thanks.

  • Orem Native
    April 25, 2010 1:21 p.m.

    I was a delegate at the Utah County Convention yesterday and can attest to the fact that many of the people who attend are nuts. Only here would Bennett be labeled a liberal. I don't think most Republicans in Utah are that crazy, just the loudest and most obnoxious ones. Unfortunately, they're also the ones that attend the convention. You are doing a great job, Senator. This level-headed Utahan is behind you.

  • NeilT
    April 25, 2010 1:01 p.m.

    I tried to get elected as a Bennett delegate. It was obvious I didn't stand a chance. The Utah Republican party is being taken over by right wing anti government extremists who don't represent me or the majority of Utahns. They are hateful people with a mean spirit about them. I will vote for the democratic candidate rather than any of Bennett's challengers. God save Utah from the right wing Republicans. Utah doesn't need their hate and fear mongering. We are a better people than that. And God bless our immigrant brothers and sisters in the gospel. They deserve our love and support, not our hate and predjudice.

  • facts_r_stubborn
    April 25, 2010 12:16 p.m.

    People should support the candidate of their choice, not use ad-hominem attacks without basis against a candidate. Apparently, many delegates made up their minds prior to the caucus meetings without even listening to the candidates first. Instead some appear to listen to outside special interest groups with ulterior motives, who use demagoguery and obfuscation to defeat strong Republican incumbents. A delegate has a unique opportunity for direct access to candidates.

  • facts_r_stubborn
    April 25, 2010 12:12 p.m.

    Regarding the conservative and effective Senator's in this state, and limited by space, I'll give you just one example each for Bennett & Hatch of how they have been effective.

    Bennett, a member of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, helped pass a Utah/federal land swap bill last year after four years of effort. This increased revenue to the School trust fund, protected sensitive lands and opened others to energy and other private uses. Bennett is an expert on land use issues and it would be a shame to lose his experience here.

    After pushing the Justice Department for months, Senator Hatch got the first immigration enforcement court in Utah history that has grown to two judges in five years. Since 1998 he has brought, quick response teams, a field office director, enhanced enforcement, a 287 G program allowing local law enforcement to work with federal immigration agents in enforcement and recently expedited shared communities in Utah which allows local law enforcement to share biometric information with federal immigration agents.

    Looks like Utah's Senators have been busy effectively addressing issues of great importance to Utahns.

  • Kelley
    April 25, 2010 10:48 a.m.

    I was at the Utah County Convention. Delegates are well educated about the issues and the candidates and take their job very seriously. They know they are representing their neighbors. I am personally an independent, but I register republican so that I can be part of the process, not excluded from it. My leanings are conservative fiscally, so that works for me. But I have been a politics junkie since 1968 when as an 8 year old I watched the national conventions on TV, fascinated. Through the years I've written to presidents, senators, congressmen, representatives, and governors. Bennett, by the way, only answers me during election years. The Utah political system allows each citizen to be as involved or as uninvolved as he or she likes. It gives the citizenry immediate access to the process if desired. While Utah as a state has four parties: extreme republicans, independent republicans, party-line republicans, and token democrats--and this is out of balance--the actual system for putting people in office works.

  • Indiana
    April 25, 2010 10:27 a.m.

    By the way, Bob Bennet's negative ads about Mike Lee have indeed settled my opinion... I will be voting for Mike Lee... I pray he retains the level of gentlemanly behaviour he has presently engaged in and doesn't stoop to the negative level.. don't do it Mike... it is hurting Bob...

  • RShackleford
    April 25, 2010 9:59 a.m.

    I'm a State delegate from St. George. I can tell you that at our caucus meeting there were about 55 people that showed up. (Three times the amount of two years ago). Of that 55 there were 2 in attendance that supported Bennett and one of them said Bob (Mr. Burns) Bennett is the only name she had heard....

    It is to bad that so many people can't see through Romney...The fact that he is not only backing Bennett but will be "Nominating" Bob Bennett at the convention should put people, not only in Utah but in the Republican Party in general, That Mitt Just Don't Get it.

    I ask you. If Mitt Romney was President. Would the size of the Federal Government continue to grow Larger??? Well the answer is 'Heck Yes'....He is backing big government/spenders like Bob Bennett...Now isn't He!?

    I will not be one of those at the convention that will go all Ga-Ga when Mitt takes the stand---I tell ya' what!

  • WatchDog
    April 25, 2010 9:58 a.m.

    In the case of the incumbant, look at his record on illegal immigration. That should tell you all you need to know about whether he represents the 75-80% of citizens - who want illegal immigration stopped.

    As far as the rest of them, look at their positions on the same subject. That puts Bridgewater out, and Lee right behind him. Neither appears willing to support the will of the citizens in this issue. One must ask why....

  • Seriously?
    April 25, 2010 9:17 a.m.

    It's my understanding that Bridgewater has a very high percentage of second choice votes. If he continues gaining momentum, I see no reason why he can't pick off Bennett and then the whole thing goes to a Primary where all voters within the party would be able to chose their new leadership.

    The voters in general have made it clear they don't want Bennett. The best thing for delegates to do is make it a Bridgewater/Lee Primary.

  • Utah_1
    April 25, 2010 8:27 a.m.

    The poll is interesting since there has only been two recent polls at County Conventions of county delegates, both showing Bennett in 3rd or 4th place behind Cherilyn Eagar, who was in 2nd place for both straw polls. That was in Weber County and Utah County.
    Bennett got 3rd place in Weber County and 4th Place in Utah County.

    I remind myself with how far off Dan Jones was 2 years ago when he polled Chaffetz a distant 3rd place.

  • The Utah Republican
    April 25, 2010 8:18 a.m.

    My prediction - based on previous observation: Bennett will finish second, smear Lee in the primary, and win re-election.

    His father was a Senator. He grew up in D.C. He represents Utah the way Karl Malone does, i.e. not much.

  • davidg
    April 25, 2010 8:13 a.m.

    As a new resident to Utah and a state delegate this year, I am convinced that the delegate process is better than the primary system in the state I left. Every other delegate I know has met with, seriously analyzed, and assessed the candidates to drill them on the issues that matter to the delegate and to the comments expressed by their neighbors at the caucus meetings. In my opinion, primary systems elect people with the best ad campaign, money, or soundbites, while the delegate system allows citizens to elect people based on the issues. I truly hope Utah never goes to a primary system as the caliber of candidates would suffer.

  • goatesnotes
    April 25, 2010 7:58 a.m.

    I can only speak for myself -- as a state delegate this year, believe me, Mitt Romney's impact is zero, and The Club for Growth's impact is zero, the Tea Party is zero, the 9/12 initiative is zero, and so is the influence of anyone else who attempts to influence my vote.

    My mind was settled in January. I endorsed Mike Lee. That's why I went to my caucus with the express purpose of supporting my candidate and got myself elected.

    What many fail to recognize is that political power resides with the people who care enough to caucus. The system is wide open, and there is zero manipulation in a state that prides itself on individualism and independent thought.

    The Bennett phenomenon in Utah is only the canary in the mineshaft this year -- it is a pattern that is going to repeat itself again and again throughout the country.

    Congress richly deserves its low approval ratings, and the tsunami that starts at the Utah State Republican Nominating Convention on May 8th is finally going to clear the beach of the jetsam and flotsam that has accumulated over the years with career politicians, Bob Bennett among them.

  • Indiana
    April 25, 2010 7:54 a.m.

    Dear aceroinox,

    While I agree in sentiment, it is a false notion that all conventions were adamantly against Bennet. As a State delegate, I have listened to very many who said that at the caucus they wanted Bennet. One even told me that someone was not elected a delegate because he said he would not vote for anyone but Bennet. So, your info is incorrect. Other than that one thing, you are correct.

  • Laurels
    April 25, 2010 7:35 a.m.

    The people who attend the caucuses typically have a higher level of engagement in the political process. They study candidates and issues. Because of that they make more informed decisions long before the glitzy ads flood the news print and airwaves a month before an election.

    The delegates elected at caucus meetings spend time attending functions where they interact face-to-face with the candidates. In these forums, detailed questions are asked and candidates can engage in lengthy discussions about their philosophies and outline proposals.

    Given that level of engagement and understanding, it's little wonder that so many of the delegates indicate they are not going to give any support to Senator Bennett. They know his record: what he has done and what he hasn't done. They've made an informed decision.

    Is the caucus system unfair? Any registered Republican can attend caucus meetings. To suggest that those who take the time to engage in this effort don't represent the will of the people is lame. Nonattendance indicates abdication of input, essentially delegating the decision to those who take the time to engage in the process and educate themselves on the issues and the candidates.

  • gogosian2061
    April 25, 2010 6:07 a.m.


    IS NOT THE CURRENT "Utah closed primary system" a blatant and callous violation of national voting rights, on its face?

    A LOT OF "non-partisans" are military war veterans!

    BEING DENIED[!] OUR "right to vote" IS ASSUREDLY NOT(!) WHAT WE SERVED OVERSEAS -- in uniform & during wartime -- to guarantee on our homecomings!

  • Gr8Dane
    April 25, 2010 5:15 a.m.

    The crazies are out. Only in Utah would Bennett be seen as a liberal. Bennett is well respected and Utah's only appropriator in Congress. Yes, I'm sure he's involved in lots and lots of conspiracies to undo the Constitution and our free market capitalist system. Yea, right. More Kool Aid, anyone?

    April 25, 2010 2:29 a.m.

    Bennett should not have hitched his wagon to the RINO party.....he and Orrin are history!

  • aceroinox
    April 25, 2010 1:20 a.m.

    It's no surprise that registered voters are lagging behind delegates in their realization that Bob Bennett should go. Most delegates have invested the time and effort to get to know the candidates and are pretty well-informed. I'm not a delegate this year, but have been in the past, and you get plenty of opportunities to assess strengths and weaknesses.

    The many voters don't really fully engage until it's time for their role in the primary stage. The few that do are the ones who went to their caucuses and elected the state delegates, most of whom pledged in their meetings to not vote for Senator Bennett at convention.

    If you want a real eye-opener, Google Transatlantic Policy Network, and read up on Senator Bennett's role in this organization over the last 20 years. Then do some checking into the key thinkers that have influenced TPN's thinking and agenda over the decades. This is a group dedicated to creating a transatlantic market, similar to the European Market, where trade decisions are optimized for the good of the whole, not any one nation within. Scare you? If not, it should!

  • woodysworld
    April 25, 2010 12:56 a.m.

    The Republican Party Central committee seems to manipulate things the way they want without regard sometimes even to the individual precincts. This year was a shocker in that regard.

    It will be interesting with the dynamics of a Mitt Romney, if the delegates will have enough backbone to follow the voices of those who attended the caucus meetings and made it very clear we want an new Senator, instead of getting caught up in the shadow of a great leader like Mitt Romney and listening to one voice instead of many.

  • Poli Sigh
    April 24, 2010 11:50 p.m.

    Two weeks out and still no clear winner, sounds like a primary to me, let's just hope it's Lee and Bridgewater, not Bennett.

    Stinkin' Romney.