Utah Jazz: Lose, will play Nuggets as the No. 5 seed

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  • blauch
    April 16, 2010 12:00 a.m.

    anyone who believes that the Jazz lost that game because of their defense needs to stop watching basketball. Just stop. You don't understand the game.

    The Jazz shot 30 for 80 from the field. They lost because of their offense not their defense.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 15, 2010 10:46 p.m.

    @ng-the reason why the jazz are going down is because they are doing the 'stupid' things that you recommend and back.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 15, 2010 10:24 p.m.

    What last night showed along with the season, w/o ak and booz, the team gets destroyed, w just ak-the jazz are an eighth seed, w just booz the jazz are a fifth seed, w both, i think we'd be looking at a second seed, the injuries took their toll, as far as legitimate injuries go, this is a matter that relates to tough decisions, being the fact that the millers are probably not in a position to operate it like the wealthier owners. thus, the philosophy of continuity, which has become the jazz gold standard-ok, this standard is not some law and even laws sometimes need to be broken, and because how everything relates maybe changes need to be made, doesn't mean that those decisions are easy to make, but not being easy is not excuse for players-as this is how sloan talks-so it is not an excuse for managment and coaches, to always do the easy thing and making it easy by always taking a min risk,
    we could've traded for s. jackson,
    ok, players are available that the jazz are afraid of.

  • jaybo
    April 15, 2010 9:58 p.m.

    I am so irritated,not that the jazz lost but how they lost. I saw absolutely no effort in a game that meant so much. I put that on sloan. I have been saying this for years and people still praise sloan. If he was the coach for any other team he would have been gone a long time ago. It is the same thing every year.3 years ago the jazz got to the western finals and they were the up and coming team, since then they have gone backwards. Again,it goes back to sloan. HE NEEDS TO GO! It's been the same way throughout the years with different players but the same result. The one thing that hasn't changed is the coach. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU!! Why are other teams getting better while the jazz stay the same? Instead of building a playoff team why not build a team that can win a championship. This up coming offseason is stacked with big name free agents. Get rid of boozer and AK and get a quality big man. Show the fans that you are at least trying to compete for a title.

  • Jazz Cop
    April 15, 2010 9:52 p.m.

    @bug off-exactly, these changes would make us a better team, it doesn't seem out of reach.
    @sincenow-you are probably the same person who denver pays to post, or something, r u kidding, lastnights game was the equaivalent of a playoff series, and we lost, you gotta find a way if injured to play.

    @todd-perhaps the boozer injury is a front office conspiracy, they secretly hold boozer out so they don't have to risk looking bad by losing to phx with boozer, instead they garuantee a loss and they secure the reason to say they thing you quoted, that the team should stay together because they haven't been healthy together yet.

    which is actually false, the team was healthy for a short stretch, ak played amazing, but he fell off then got injured, everyone else was playing good too, defense was focused on; but ak was playing really his best ball in a few years, which case if that was what 16 mil gets you fine, but this is the case of ak showing up which he sometimes does, but usually doesn't, injury excuses or not.

  • big daddy
    April 15, 2010 8:48 p.m.

    The JAZZ just looked & played tired & they only have 2 days off to get ready for the NUGGETS.

    The good thing is they don't have to do anything to get ready they just have to be ready to play and beat them in Denver atleast 1 game to start off with.

    If Boozer & AK47 are not back they don't stand much of a chance.

    Last night the SUNS took advantage of the refs leting them pound on the JAZZ in the paint - but that is the way the ball bounces or should we say gets blocked.

    Come on Sloan & your coaches - kick them in the buttt. It is a long play-off - into May to start off.

  • the Mailman
    April 15, 2010 8:48 p.m.

    Are you guys serious???

    Sloan is not the problem? He is the only constant in 22 years of coming up short.

    The answer is staring you in the face, you just choose to look elsewhere.

  • NGB
    April 15, 2010 8:08 p.m.

    Todd, you keep saying we need to run people off the 3 point line, but then you complain that we dont have a true shot blocking center. Where is your logic???

    sloan does prefer instead of running at the three line and letting them penetrate, he prefers to approach to guard the penetration since we have no big man with blocking capabilities down low, but in the zone where they started draining threes is not the same concept.

    So running the three off, made them make an extra pass to another good three point shooter and he drained it. Rotation is too slow, not running off the three.

    But you would have us run at shooters so they can pump fake and drive and go straight to our "lack of the true center" so they can have a higher percentage shot?? where is the logic, 40 percent shot vs 80 percent shot in a layup that is basically uncontested with memo being slow and booz playing Ole.

    Great personnel coaching Todd, knowing your players is what a semi pro coach should know, its coaching 101 in the book for dummies. Oh well, lets let teams drive on us.

  • toddfromsantaana
    April 15, 2010 7:33 p.m.

    Forgot last year another mental breakdown losing the last game at Spurs putting us in Laker Bracket 8th.

    Care less. Expecting loss to Nuggets because we do not seem to have enough character-keep supporting Sloan, keep supporting average. The Boston Bruins made playoffs like 20 years in a row and they had noting to show for it. Maybe a new coach would bring his own system could even be better more defense oriented, and different type of players. ...such as a #2 guard who may be available Like Salmons and Matthews can back him up, A high pick to draft an athletic lengthy big man, try and get a legitimate Small forward,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or Paul move there, Okur to #4 and a true center

    You will be shocked to learn Jazz basketball will not "cease" without Sloan. Then again you can rid us of Greg sell to the team and move them to Honda Center I am down with that-here greg and 'Jer" accountable
    I am ere to "shock you"

    Life will not cease and neither will Jazz B BAll without Jer and "his Sloanaholics"

    You all may learn other methods, you know 21st century stuff frin ither cocd

  • Captain L
    April 15, 2010 7:31 p.m.

    What a bunch of fair weather fans, complain, complain, complain, whine, whine, whine. Without Booz & AK the Jazz were just overmatched. If both Booz & AK can return for the playoffs, we have a chance. Denver hasn't been playing well lately & if the Jazz are healthy they can beat the Nuggets.
    Let's hope Booz & AK can regain their health and play like they can. Go Jazz.

  • toddfromsantaana
    April 15, 2010 7:11 p.m.

    JK you frighten me...I am shaking....I could care less what anyone thinks....I do hate Sloan, of course. The fact is he is never blamed for one thing that goes wrong. "it is not the players that have to self motivated and focused". Phoenix guarded the 3 point line far better "watch the tape" oh sure a few times they did not, the Jazz NEVER DO Then again when I called for a #2 or # 3 seed that was EXPECTING AK AND BOOZER WOULD PLAY. Still, the Jazz rushed shots because when they tried to go inside to Milsap he was smothered and had nowhere to go with the ball and badly deficient in height.

    Still. Sloan philosophy is why players are not in position to rotate and help, it is HIS DESIGN


    I will say it again....If someone with strength to discipline or someone with RINGS (Riley, Jackson, Popovich, Rivers) were in charge last night, either theyr'e words and teammates pressure KIRILENKO AND BOOZER WOULD HAVE PLAYED.

    Fes getting 2 minutes is a joke. You guys just do not like me and that is cool the truth hurts

  • jazzy boys fan
    April 15, 2010 6:52 p.m.

    I know Korver had a really bad game, but come on... give him a break. He did not purposely not shoot 3s to get that dumb record. He is a good teammate and has too much heart to do that. He was not open. Had he been open and had he been given time to get into the rhythym of shooting he would have taken a 3 when available. I agree it looks bad, but he wouldn't sell his team down the river for a record!! Keep supporting Kyle!

  • JK
    April 15, 2010 4:28 p.m.

    about Todd from Santa Ana
    thats the one great thing about the end of the season...i won't have to read his crap anymore..

    Todd you were YAHOOING a couple of games back forecasting a 2 or 3 seed..now you're breaking you ankles jumping off the wagon..
    we don't need you breaking down the game with who played great and who didn't...we all watch...

    your posts are predictable and have become tiresome...

    give it a rest friend...

    oh and by the way.....AVERY JOHNSON????? really....WOW!!! sell me some...

  • Samwise
    April 15, 2010 3:47 p.m.

    That was just a dumb game all around. The Jazz were horrible. The Refs were horrible. If the reffing was fair, the Jazz might have only lost by 8 or 10! They will need AK and/or Boozer to be able to play if they want any chance of beating the Nuggets

  • here we go
    April 15, 2010 3:02 p.m.

    Last night was pathetic...definitely a game the fans wanted to win - but the players didn't care. Should have been treated like a Game 7 in my opinion.

    As for the Denver matchup, maybe I'll boycott so I don't have to see Ty Lawson run circles around DWill for the next 4 games. Why is it DWill makes Lawson look like an All Star?

    April 15, 2010 2:53 p.m.

    Didn't Ron Artest drink alcohol at halftime in the locker room...? Maybe Boozer should live up to his name while he is injured... I for one feel no pain with a little bit of alcohol in me... Just a thought... I think we can beat Denver, Lets just pray that OKC beats LA which they most likely could do!!

    April 15, 2010 2:42 p.m.

    That won't be a problem for Loozer!! he never raises his arms when he is playin D, I hope he got some pain that means at least he is raising his arms!! And I agree Booz is more consistant if he is healthy, or should I say he is more consistan with his injuries!!

  • JazzMan
    April 15, 2010 2:25 p.m.

    I had Milsap on my fantasy team and he was VERY inconsistant. There were so many nights where he'd have like 4-pts and 4-boards and 4-turnovers and that's it.

    Then one good game about once every 2 weeks.

    Boozer is a MUCH more consistant player. He just happens to be hurt. (again)

    And an oblique strain is not going to just go away. He's going to really feel it everytime he raises his arms. This is not a good sign for the Jazz. I hope he can play to a high level but I would be surprised.

  • SoCal
    April 15, 2010 2:15 p.m.

    While it was extremely frustrating to watch the Jazz MELT AGAIN in an important game, I think if Boozer and AK 47 show up, we can take care of Denver in 6 games. By the way...... The reason AK47 is called AK47 is that we A.ll K.now he will miss at least 47 games per season.
    Memo, Boozer and AK are all wimpy. They allow hang nails to keep them of the court. This is why I say they will beat the Nuggets, then lose to whomever they play next.

    April 15, 2010 2:10 p.m.


    Last time I checked his name wasn't Jared Collins it was Jarron... Get your facts straight before talking about players... And I think we are in some serious trouble especially if BOOzer and AK don't play at all... Specifically BOOzer!! We should just send AK packing, he has been worthless the last part of the season...

    And isn't it time for Steve Nash to retire, I can't stand hearing his name or even seeing him!!

    And I watch Hollingers Playoff Odds on ESPN everyday and it still has the Jazz with the highest percentage of going to the NBA Finals out of anybody in the West... I just wish it would be true!!

    April 15, 2010 2:07 p.m.

    I agree with you guys, they didn't show up last night, this supposed to be the biggest game and became the biggest disapointment in franchise history. Loozer and AK-47 sitting out? that is weak, they have no heart and they don't care about the fans, team and teamates, they are here just for their money. I love soccer and I remember Beckenbahuer playing for Germany in the world cup final in 1974 with a broken arm, going into overtime, that is heart and I'm sure that was a sharper pain than loozer's.

    We need to rebuild the team around DWill, we can get great pick and let loozer and Ak go have some money to go out on the fre agent market this summer and land C-Bosh!!

    And I think we can still beat Denver if we show up. Go Jazz

  • CJ
    April 15, 2010 1:59 p.m.

    Boozer and Andre are great players but they are both made of glass, a hang nail and they are out. Having them injured all the time is the same as not having them. It's a tough dilemma.

  • NGB
    April 15, 2010 1:58 p.m.

    oh Todd and his fearsome club of naysayers, i'm seeing the validity of your past arguements against me come to fold as well. Todd's buddy jazzcop would argue with me all day about starting Korver since he's such a saavy vet, look at what he's done lately in pressure situations. Todd's bashing on sloan when the players arent coming to play is exactly what he's now saying is the problem. Doesn't matter what sloan says in the locker room or doesnt say, if the players dont come out to play or execute or try (in the case of AK and Booz) then it doesnt matter how great a coach he is.

    Talk about worthless, Todd's arguement, being a semi pro coach is outdated and jealousy is abudantly clear. Blame Jerry all you want, I have in the past, but the fact is when two of the 4 best players on the team dont want to gut it out, it doesnt mean your coach is bad, it means the organization shouldnt resign them, cuz they have no heart or will

  • NGB
    April 15, 2010 1:47 p.m.

    great comeback Todd, I can see why you are so reverred. I disagree with many of sloan's philosphies. I hate that Fes didnt start playing more and the start of the season when he seemed a little more focused. I hated at the first of the year when he wouldnt let this club shot the three ball more often. But you've even admitted Todd that he's made some adjustments so give credit when its due. Matthews, a rookie starting and playing big mins. They've been playing more outside game lately and have designed 3 point plays.

    So unlike your own biased, i've bashed when needed and have given praise when deserved, maybe that's why you only made it as a semi pro coach. Learn to give praise and blame when its due.

    You will never win an arguement that its Jerrys job to motivate these guys to play and to play with heart. His job is to create a scheme to help them execute and win. The players have to play with the desire and focus, no matter what he did last night they didnt have enough fire power.

  • blauch
    April 15, 2010 1:44 p.m.



    Phoenix averages over the season 9 out of 21 3 point shots. Over the previous 10 games they are making 10 of 23. And that is what they did against Utah 10 for 21.

    Todd - you just do not understand the first thing about basketball. The reason the Jazz lost had nothing to do with Phoenix 3 point shooting or the Jazz's Defense.

    The Jazz lost for the same reason they always - They fear shooting outside. There is no reason the Jazz did not shoot 40 3 point shots yesterday. They had multiple open shots. And Miles and Okur were the only players who were willing to shoot any of them.

    Phoenix did not defend the 3 point line either. The Jazz just did not shoot them. KORVER WAS AWFUL.

    Koufas is a worst player than Collins was. Yet the Jazz Ran 4 low post plays for him and 1 for Fes for zero points.

    Fans who say we need to play Fes and Koufas - If they were good sloan would play them

  • Jesse
    April 15, 2010 1:32 p.m.

    re: Jazz Source and The Final Word

    You're right that Deron didn't play his best game, but lets not throw him under the bus. Last nights performance was the result of him trying to do too much, or trying to make up for the team not having Boozers 20 points. He shot a bad %, and made a lot of turnovers, but don't forget that he shot 14 free throws. That is what great players do if they struggle from the field. I guarantee that he has a few nagging injuries as well, but he suited up.

    Alright, that is all the negativity I can handle. Let's move on and talk about the upcoming matchup.

  • toddfromsantaana
    April 15, 2010 1:07 p.m.

    NGB now with doug and Blauche "the Thee AMigos"

    Keep it up "sloanaholic"


  • Sokol
    April 15, 2010 1:06 p.m.

    Do any of you think that Boozer was trying to help the Jazz by healing and not making his injury worse
    for the playoffs?

    What do you think of this thought? Since in some ways, Boozer has actually stuck with it this year...

  • Jazz Source
    April 15, 2010 1:02 p.m.

    re: ya he did...and he played in the other 77 games as well that got us in position to play for the 3rd seed.

    I'm just as ticked as the next person Boozer got injured and did not play--it cost us an exciting post season playoff experience.

    Seiously though, this guy has a history of injuries and he is WITHOUT A CONTRACT and you seriously think he is going to sit when he could have actually played? That is a ridiculous premise.

    As far as your Laker comment--I agree Boozer is too short to compete against the Lakers but last time I checked they are the reigning NBA champions and there are 28 other teams that have the same problem.

    We would not have even sniffed the 2 or 3 seed if Boozer would not have delivered the impressive regular season performance he did.

    Don't speak on others behalf because the stats don't lie. Boozer delivered all season long and that is a large reason we had the chance we did.

    Is he the horse to beat the Lakers? No I don't believe he is but that doesnt mean he's worthless.

  • yankee doodle
    April 15, 2010 12:20 p.m.

    Hey Jazz Source? Didn't the Almighty Boozer play in the Houston loss? Yeah that's what I thought. And he can't even try to play on what you said yourself was a game of this magnitude, even the hobbled Okur gutted it out and he is considered soft, so what does that make the Almighty Boozer? You have your opinions and we have ours!!!! So get of your high horse and come back down to reality. And on a side note, what happened to the Jazz with ALL of it's talent at home against the Lakers without most of its talent, THEY GOT SMOKED!!!!

  • NGB
    April 15, 2010 12:19 p.m.

    9 guys deep with our regular starters not injured is a good bench, Not every team can be 10 deep like phx, though Collins never plays except when lopez is injured so I shouldnt count him. take away booz's nearly 20 and 11 or his 25.5 and 14.8 he has averaged against the suns and you can see why we needed him in this game. Biggest game, but he didnt play and that I can somewhat understand with the injury coming last night.

    With that said, I see no reason why AK doesnt play, slower or not we're a better team when he's playing and the guy continues to sit on the bench with an injury booz had earlier in the season that only sidelined him a week. Shows the kind of mentality AK has, SCARED!!!

    There was a lack of hustle in the second quarter and memo was doing everything he could to keep us in the game, but he's injured and cant be superman.

    The difference between Jer and Gentry is gentry has older bigs that have at least 2 more years than our KK and FES

  • NGB
    April 15, 2010 12:12 p.m.

    I'm afraid I have to disagree with Todd on most of his comments. His "knowledge" of the game from coaching or reffing semi pro basketball was confined to bashing sloan in every post. I think he secretly has a crush on him and every Jazz game curls up on the couch with lipstick on to watch the games.

    2 Starters are out, one being a monster against the suns in booz and everyone is acting surprised.

    As soon as I heard on the radio that Booz and AK werent playing I cancelled my Tivo for the game. There wasnt a chance they were gonna win a game against a team that with a full Denver line up, dismantled them by 26.

    I really hope Jazzcop has been watching his boy Korver over the last 2 weeks because he has shown why he's not a starter in this league. Matthews at least tried to play D and attack the rim, Korver was a ghost.

    Now I do not agree with how Jerry has developed his bench because it could be better, but we are still a deep team with everyone healthy.

  • The Final Word
    April 15, 2010 11:51 a.m.

    WHO KNEW...that Steve Nash and Dragic were such defensive stoppers?

    They sure put the brakes on Deron last night.

    What pretender Deron was last night.

    He and Korver can exchange stories of valor in the offseason. Both veterans were AWOL!!

    Okur surprised me the most--injured and played anyway and ended playing better than the healthy players.

    That ought to tell you something about the healthy players effort. What bunch of lazy mental midgets these players are!!

    I understand we were horrifically overmatched with 2/3rds of our starting talent on the bench but where was the stinking effort!!

  • GoodGuyGary
    April 15, 2010 11:32 a.m.

    For the past 22 years, there were only 7 teams have won the championship. Bulls (6 times), Lakers (5 times), Pistons (3 times), Rockets (2 times) San Antonio (4 times), Miami (1 times) and Boston (1 times). And in this 22 years, Jackson won 10 championship, and Popovich won 4 times, Riley won 2 times.

    Jazz, at the same times, have winning reord 21 out of 22 season, 2 NBA finals appearance, missed playoff twice.

    And now, people is saying Sloan is outdated and other teams moved on? Hello, last time I checked, they only award one championship a year. Be grateful Jazz is not like Clippers or Timberwolves, or even Bucks and Knicks.

  • H2OSKI
    April 15, 2010 11:32 a.m.


    What a sissy...planning his shots to preserve his precious 3 point shooting season record.

    That guy should be fired/waived.

    A guy that leads the NBA in 3 point % and he can't make a single shot.

    I have always said it...he is great at making shots when it does not matter. Last night it mattered and what did he do?

    A BIG DONUT!!!!!

    What a pretender!!

    If the Jazz get on the other side of the bracket they easily get to the second round and possibly win that series also and end up in the WCF.

    Now they quite possibly lose to the Nuggets and if they magically beat them then they get embarrassed by the Lakers.

    Deron? I thought you were supposed to be a leader for your team?


    Nice legacy.

    They all be "GONE FISHIN'" very soon anyways.

    You get a chance to see what your players are made of when it matters most and I guess now we know what we have got!!

    No wonder they "turtle up" every time we play the Lakers. MENTALLY WEAK!!

  • MJB
    April 15, 2010 11:30 a.m.

    You know that 15 years ago, with Malone and Stockton, in this same type of situation, would NOT be denied the chance to come out and show their stuff if they were injured like AK and Boozer. Why can't they have enough guts to play in the most important game of the entire season?

  • Uncle Rico
    April 15, 2010 11:30 a.m.

    Bring on Denver!

  • Jazz Source
    April 15, 2010 11:23 a.m.

    What a bunch of hacks!!!! And that could apply to many of the COMMENTERS here AND THE PLAYERS!!

    Sloan is the problem?


    Okur is hobbled.
    Boozer is out.
    AK is out.

    Please tell us what other team is going to beat the 2nd or 3rd hottest team in the NBA since the allstar break with 2/3rds of its talent sitting injured on the bench?

    Get serious!!

    Now, what I will add to that is the fact that the remaining players (with the exception of Memo) were GUTLESS, PATHETIC, LAZY, AND GENERALLY APATHETIC in last nights game.

    Sloans system has beat the Suns before and come from 20 points down to do it so save your flawed logic.

    The help defense and rotations were slow and weak. The players stood like witnesses as the Suns jacked up threes. THE PLAYERS did nothing to stop it.

    The PLAYER EFFORT for a game of this magnitude was just unforgiveable.

    Back to back pathetic games from Deron after he hardly played at Golden State.

    Hope everyone enjoyed a PREVIEW OF NEXT SEASONS TEAM WITHOUT BOOZER!!! All you Millsap lovers got a good taste of what will happen next year!!

  • evanston
    April 15, 2010 10:37 a.m.

    I have reaced the point of hatred for AK and Boozer. AK is the one that really takes the cake. He is the highest paid player on the team and has no heart or soul. Go back and play for Russia AK. Void your contract next year. You don't care to be here. Same with you Boozer. Any "real" athlete would have played last night. Give your heart to your team or get out. Besides Mathews and Deron, this team has no heart or character. Everyone is trade bait. Why is Koufos playing over fess all of a sudden? He is horrible. Milsap is not good. Blow this thing up or you will start losing more fans then you already have.

  • bdjohnson
    April 15, 2010 10:18 a.m.

    koufos is 7 foot tall and was blocked over and over and over. no idea how to score in a league where everyone else has height and more talent. Good college player, not an NBA player.

    Jazz have lost all their toughness. I cannot think of one player willing to put someone on the floor once in a while. Ostertag was tougher than most of our current lineup. The art of OLE! is becoming perfected in Utah

  • Madden
    April 15, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    The world didn't end - it was just one game! Denver is a mess and Utah will see the Lakers in round 2...and they might still be a mess too. DWill can dominate Fisher.

    As a Suns fan I have to say WOHOO - I have been to about a dozen games in SLC to watch my team, I am glad they finally held a lead.

    In case you didn't notice, PHX is pretty good. No shame in losing to them without Boozer and AK. I expected more of a fight, but cmon, this was not the biggest game of the year. Saturday's is.

  • Jesse
    April 15, 2010 10:09 a.m.

    I haven't been hard on Booz too much all year, everyone knew to expect big numbers as he was paying for the raise he guaranteed he'd get. I had been open to him returning next year but to not show up in the biggest game of the year w/ a mild injury is weak to me. To say that it is more important to have him rested for the playoffs is weak also. I'd take a Portland matchup over a matchup w/ the Nuggets. Even if Booz is sore.

    With all that said, I don't know that Booz would have been the difference last night. It just would have said more about him. I still like our chances against the Nuggets with the way they've been playing lately.

  • Sokol
    April 15, 2010 10:05 a.m.

    Has Koufos improved at all in 2 years? I wish the Jazz would get rid of the loafers...

  • bdjohnson
    April 15, 2010 10:04 a.m.

    I cannot understand why either AK or BOOZ did not play. It would have been a huge confidence boost for the team. Even at 90% phx would have had to guard booz, not allowing double teams all night on d-will. Play this game, win it, the take the ENTIRE series off against Portland to heal. At home, without Roy, it would have been easy. Then healthy, I like our chances against Dallas or San Antonio, then on to the conf finals and who knows, maybe its not the lakers and maybe we have home court. The Jazz franchise just went from 8 to 10 more home games, to probably just 2. So if the Millers are so worried about the money, they should have demanded they play so they could get the extra revenue. Both have "promised" to be back by the playoffs. If that is so, there is NO reason they should have been in street clothes last night. Wes Matthews takes a pounding every game, giving 100%, and yes, makes rookie mistakes. He has probably been kicked in the leg and punched in the gut, but he keeps playing hard because HE WANTS TO PLAY!

  • Sokol
    April 15, 2010 9:54 a.m.

    They were only slightly better than an NBA Development team last night..Why do people continually praise Sloan?

  • agentbb007
    April 15, 2010 9:20 a.m.

    Quit all the hating on our team!! Bring on Denver baby!!

  • toddfromsantaana
    April 15, 2010 9:19 a.m.

    todd to Since Now

    This is the predictable scenario:

    Jazz Lose in 6 or 7

    O Connor says "we love tis young squad, we still have not seen a Full Jazz roster because of the untimely injuries by Kirilenko and Carlos. We would have been likely #3 seed if they had been healthy, then no one is negative. I say we keep this fine young nucleus, we will have a higher pick on draft, we will make a move only if it makes fiscal sense and help our squad and confident the Jazz when healthy can be fun and competitive and challenge as a top contender. We will likely make few changes, you may see this same roster, either way I love our future"

    The "sloanaholics were aroused like Doug and Blaunch and united in support for Kev and his main man "Jer" for another season bright ahead of 50-32 and early playoff exit.

    The "sloanaholics" felt great and were more than happy with just 82 games to keep them occupied until Bees Baseball or Gardening work could be done.

  • Henry Drummond
    April 15, 2010 9:19 a.m.

    When you have Fesenko and Kofous on the floor at the same time during a critical stretch of the game you know you're in deep trouble.

  • Sokol
    April 15, 2010 9:13 a.m.

    Yes, it is time to send Kirilenko and Boozer out the door....How can the Jazz keep this Russian frail scarecrow with no heart and no soul? Then you
    have Boozer, in a suit on the most important game of the year...
    Frankly, I am tired of Sloan, the Millers, KOC and this team....

  • SinceNow
    April 15, 2010 8:55 a.m.

    The only gripe I have is the lack of production from the bench. You've gotta be ready to play. Boozer is a big reason for why the Jazz were in a position to take a 3rd seed into the playoffs, so you all can lay down your pitchforks and blaming injured players for losses. If I had to pick between Booz and AK playing in the last regular season game (as big as it may be) and having them for the playoffs, I pick the playoffs. If they'd aggravated their injuries during this last game, things would be a lot worse. Of course, for some of you, that would have been a reason to come out and post "Boozer doesn't want to play in the playoffs".
    Like I said, no bench production last night, plus poor shooting from our shooting guards, a tough night for Milsap, and a strong Phoenix team.
    Not what I wanted, but I'm still psyched to see these guys play with all of their roster. There's still loads of potential. Go Jazz!

    April 15, 2010 8:52 a.m.

    The bigger problem that Boozer is AK. We pay him way too much money, and he has played in 2 of the last 18 games. Last night wouldnt have even mattered had he played in those other games. We have lost 7 games since he has been injured. I am sure we would have won half of those had he not been weak. For all the Booz haters. He averages 19 and 11. We would be horrible if we didnt have him.

  • Expert
    April 15, 2010 8:40 a.m.

    Like my name, it is what everyone is on these boards isn't. It's kind of funny how many opions there are. I bet half these blow up the ship comments were the same ones that thought we could give the lackers a run for their money in the western conference finals. I do however think that there are some changes that need to be made, starting with the 29 million that was sitting on the bench for the most important game of this season. This one game was probably more important the the whole series that the suns will now be able to enjoy.

  • Chris B
    April 15, 2010 8:37 a.m.

    Nothing like another early exit in the playoffs.

    Oh well, there's next season, right?

  • RealityCheck
    April 15, 2010 8:12 a.m.

    When will the EnergySolutions crowd give up on chanting "M-V-P" to Deron Williams? Deron is a great player - even an All-Star most years - but he is nowhere near an MVP.

    We needed Williams to have a big night, but instead he went 5-17. Tuesday he was terrible as well. I love Deron and I'm glad he's on our side, but it's time to give up on the MVP chants. True MVP's relish the opportunity to step up big in games like this, but Deron basically laid an egg. It's not the first time he's done that in big games either.

    Nuggets in 5.

  • Doug10
    April 15, 2010 7:57 a.m.

    the sky is falling the sky is falling..

    Todd is jumping in front of buses and throwing Sloan under the same vehicle.

    Jazz lost with the two highest paid players sitting on the bench. Take away Amare and Nash and see where the Suns end up.

    Many comments condeming Sloan yet it is not his fault Boozer scored as many points as Korver and guarded better on the bench. Sloan is not at fault that Matthews could not hit for half the game.

    Sloan may be at fault for keeping Price, but not because Deron can't hit a 3 in a meaningful game.

    Millsap needed some testosterone prior to the game and again at half. He maybe left what he had to offer in Golden State, he did not show up for the Phoenix game.

    Trashing Boozer about injuries is not helpful. AK makes more and is hurt more often and is less useful so what good does it do to trash Boozer? It is obvious to me he has carried the team on his shoulders this season, played more games than Deron and has proved himself.

    that is more than the fair weather fans who comment here

  • Jesse
    April 15, 2010 7:53 a.m.

    It was a lot more positive around here yesterday, looks like the worst case scenario happened.

    This is a game Booz should've played. He needed to still show everyone something. What did he have to play for? His future contract, the fans, maybe his teamates respect? I'm sure the last one of those reasons is totally gone now. I have to think that at least AK's injury is legit, even Sloan said he just didn't look ready. Todd, I don't know why you'd be surprised that Booz was into the game, he always is. He has perfected the art of looking like he's into the game. All that talking and yelling is all for show, makes you look like you're playing harder.

    One positive I see happening now is Booz having a monster series against the Nuggets. I bet he puts up around 25 and 15 for the series. Obviously playing for his next contract, I just hope it's not from the Jazz.

  • scodyshootfight
    April 15, 2010 7:31 a.m.

    The Jazz were outmatched and injured, but let's face it. With so much on the line, we should have at least been competitive. One single game took us from the Western conference finals into a first round exit. We're not beating the Thuggets, and we're sure as heck not even going to compete with LA if we somehow make it that far. Amazing how one game could blow a really good chance to go far in the playoffs. Really hard to see us competing when we're on the road.

  • Hugh G. Hater
    April 15, 2010 7:28 a.m.

    Bugoff is right.

    What I'd really like to say would never get posted due to the vulgarity content.

    This team is a joke. We've stood still with Sloan for 22 years while (especially this season in the west) other teams have moved on.

    All I hear from Greggy boy is how much the team costs. What a crybaby. If you won't manage it to win why do you have it? Overnight, this team is no longer "fun and competitive".

    This team needs to either be blown up or sold.

  • chad
    April 15, 2010 6:17 a.m.

    Utah sports just keep breaking my heart, why don't I learn and just stop believing?

  • John Wicks
    April 15, 2010 5:42 a.m.

    The Jazz went on vacation early. Pathetic play, no savvy, heart, or sense of urgency. Korver won't shoot protecting his field goal%. Miles still a boy playing in a men's league. D-Will not as good as he thinks he is. This team needs to be dismantled starting from the top. Hand C.J., Boozer and A.K. their walking papers and get some players who want to perform! Wake up Greg before it's too late.

  • Bugoff
    April 15, 2010 5:03 a.m.

    With Stockton and Malone the Sloan system could not produce a contender without sufficient outside shooting, very good defense and a deep bench.

    This team has none of those elements.

    I live in a major market city. Other teams are afraid to acquire Boozer.
    1. He is injury prone
    2. DWill/Sloan make his stats look better than reality.
    3. They fear he will not play hard with a new contract.

    Memo matches well some night and poorly others.

    Sloan has not designed enough consistent outside shooting into the SF and SG positions.

    The defense has trouble with 3 point teams by Sloan design.

    Jazz management has tinkered with fixing the above problems. Now they need to get serious.

    If you insist on Sloan then put enough shooting into the perimeter. Get a taller PF. Get a traditional C. Guard the 3s.

    Design a playoff team, not a regular season team. Sloan is not a playoff coach. He got out coached by Gentry.

    The mind set has to change in Jazz management. Stop planning for the regular season. Plan on beating LA/DEN/PHO and design for it. Force Sloan to make changes.

    Losing is not entertaining.

  • the Mailman
    April 15, 2010 2:48 a.m.

    Hey, thats what happens when you don't put time into your reserves. You lose 20 and 10 like he says, but get no numbers from his replacements (Kosta and Fez)because no investment, no time and effort was put into them on game days..

    Just like it was always going to be, the Jazz will be bundled out nice and early, with the same old problems as usual..coach Sloan being the main one.

  • THEeyepatch
    April 15, 2010 2:36 a.m.

    I think the Jazz have a really good chance against the Nuggets, it's pretty even, if BOOZ and Pop-Gun comeback. If not, keep your fingers crossed Jazz faithful.

    Does this become another "won and done" season for the Utah Jazz, Western Conference Finals I say.

  • Tin Man
    April 15, 2010 2:17 a.m.

    Please don't make me watch another year of Miles and Price....one turnover after another...one bad shot after another. Miles has sucked up enough money, cut our losses and get rid of him. Worthless.

  • pocyUte
    April 15, 2010 2:17 a.m.

    I would like to thank the Jazz players for wasting my time and money tonight. You guys are a joke. I can deal with a losing, if you try. Sitting in the stands I saw no effort. To Bugoff, you could have the greatest schemes ever, but if the players don't execute (read in this case just hustle) it doesn't matter. The Jazz were slow, passive and played soft as warm butter on a day when they had everything to play for.

    Dwilll has "no guts no glory" on his arms, well that's true the Jazz showed no guts today, and will have the glory of a quick exit from the playoffs.

  • GoodGuyGary
    April 15, 2010 1:56 a.m.

    Both AK and Boozer were out, and Okur playing hurt, the game was ugly to see. Too many outside shots. But then, just take one game at a time, we can beat Denver. Go Jazz.

  • toddfromsantaana
    April 15, 2010 1:35 a.m.

    Avery is a call away

  • toddfromsantaana
    April 15, 2010 1:26 a.m.

    I called all of it....Boozer and Kirilenko can leave on a boat and send them to SS Minnow

    SLoan makes no adjustments. He will not guard "3s". I do not care if Blauch and Doug and all of society come here and "defend Sloan". Mark Jackson commented everyone in the Jazz Camp should take "a look in the mirror" and "no Adjustments" (Meaning 10 3s in 3 quarters) Phoenix who you "all said" played no defense controlled the game with 10 blocks, and Jazz committed 19 turnovers. Ironic that even Jared Collins did a good job patrolling the paint-all of this is so Ironic...

    When they lose to Denver, this ship "needs to cast away". Anyone almost makes the playoffs in this league. What do you do when you get there? I guess when Adrian Dantley who has struggled (another ex Jazz Man) outcoaches Sloan, Maybe the state will ask like me "Jer please move on and go"

    You all know I am right...

    Lastly, did you notice the bench. At least Boozer cheered for his teammates. "Your AK 47 16 million dollars worth" acted disinterested the whole night.

    The 2 headaches can leave and free up money

  • Terry
    April 15, 2010 12:36 a.m.

    Horrible help Defense on 3's, Sloan should have tried man to man D!

    Is there any doubt Malone, Stock or even D Will would have played given Boozer's or even AK's injuries? Take some advil, get some magic spray and buck up in THE MOST IMPORTANT REGULAR SEASON GAME IN JAZZ HISTORY! I guess Booze figures this is not his team/gone next year, so why push himself!

    I would like to think there is still hope for a first round victory, but without home court advantage, that appears tough! 1 lousy game away from playing Portland (with home court) instead of Denver and NO Lakers until the finals; how sad to see that effort and No Booze/AK for a game with such importance!

  • Hoping
    April 15, 2010 12:30 a.m.

    I really hoped we'd get the two or three seed. But it is what it is. I hope Jerry Sloan learns hoe important it is to develop his young players through out the year instead of waiting till the final most important game of the regular season. And I realy hope we can play well against Denver. Though I can't see us getting past the second round since we can't seem to beat the lakersor the thunder.

  • Jazzsmack
    April 15, 2010 12:25 a.m.

    Just like I called it a few days ago

    53 wins and a 4th or 5th seed depending on how tie breakers worked out

    since it turns out to be a 5th seed,

    and since they do NOT havbe homecourt advantage over the beat in regular season we call the playoffs as probable the jazz will lose in the first round.

    thus again proving my other words,

    the jazz have NOT improved over 4 years now.

    Will NOT win a championship with this team and this coach.

    I have seem the same things happen in the 80s' and 90s' and now the 00s'

    and same excuses and wishful thinking from the management and media and fans,

    real change is needed.

    Let's just hope they don't blow the draft as usual,

    and do nothing to improve the team.

  • jazzfan
    April 14, 2010 11:42 p.m.

    Well, I guess the Jazz wanted an early summer. Too bad, if they won this game they would have gone to the conference finals. I'm not seeing much success over Denver.

  • corou
    April 14, 2010 11:41 p.m.

    Just when you had the entire state excited about the playoffs Boozer shows up to the biggest game of the year in a suit. I want to watch a Jazz team that shows me they want to play and that they actually care. I'll skip the playoffs this year.

  • Bugoff
    April 14, 2010 11:36 p.m.

    Hard Reality.

    1. Sloan's defensive philosophy is obsolete. The coaches/players knew PHO would shoot 3s. They left them open. The philosophy of hoping a team designed to shoot 3s will not make them has to change.

    2. Boozer needs to move on. He is good in the regular season but not against tall line ups. Millsap is not the answer either. It is better to have someone who scores 3 points less per game but who plays D and is not injury prone.

    3. The Sloan system makes the Jazz too dependent on the PG and PF positions. If one or both play bad, get disrupted or hurt the Jazz YO YO. There has to be more balance and more production from the SG. There has to be more consistent shooting from the outside. The problem is Sloan and his philosophies again which are out dated.

    4. Gentry developed his bench and played his young bigs all year. They are ready. Sloan did not he worried to much about Vet egos and stats.

    5. Sloan is not a play off coach. This team is designed for the regular season. It is designed for the flawed Sloan system.