Loren Jorgensen: Utah Jazz: Jerry Sloan won't win (again), but someone will win the top coach, rookie and 6th man

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  • Jaded Jazz Fans
    April 6, 2010 12:53 p.m.

    Every other coach in the league knows Sloan is a great coach. It's only Jazz fans who call him a failure. These same fans probably expect the team to go 82-0 every year. Jerry Sloan has the 5th highest career winning percentage out of all the coaches in the NBA. Only Jackson, Popovich, Van Gundy, and Mike Brown of the Cavs have a higher career winning percentage. Keep in mind that only Jackson and Popovich have over 250 wins. Also, Jackson has had the benefit of those no-name players such as Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Shaquille O'Neal. Yet some Jazz fans keep wanting to call Sloan a bad coach. Take off your jaded glasses and look at what Sloan has accomplished with what he's had over the years.

  • Apr 5
    April 5, 2010 7:05 p.m.

    Any Jazz fans still in the twilight zone about how far this year's team will go in the playoffs only need to take a hard look at the team photo.
    Instead of seeing players like Hornacek, Stockton, Russell, Malone, and Shandon Anderson we see C.J., AK-47, and Memo, none of which will ever be on a series winning team.

  • Anonymous
    April 5, 2010 5:39 p.m.

    PM:9:07 Good catch the 56 points was scored in 1967. Monroe's rookie season.

  • Sloan is Amazing
    April 5, 2010 5:31 p.m.

    I love Sloan's no nonsense work ethic. Jerry puts together the best teams in the NBA. The Jazz are playing as the second best team in the West. Maybe that doesn't carry much weight with some of you, but the number one team is light years ahead of the rest of the NBA as far as combined talent is concerned.

    I hope Jerry keeps at it for another 4 or 5 years. We have truly been spoiled.

  • pm
    April 5, 2010 9:07 a.m.

    Earl Monroe in 1986? I don't think so.

  • the Mailman
    April 5, 2010 4:56 a.m.

    re: good grief

    Um.. what has Sloan won exactly?

  • todd from santa ana
    April 5, 2010 1:14 a.m.

    good grief and Doug?

    How many rings gentlemen? How far in 12 years? same ol story, you guys crack me up we just need Blaunch now with his homerism takes?

    You guys would not give coach of the year to Brooks? Give one logical reason you would not, even if let us say I thought Jerry was the best in the business.

    Did Sloan develop a game plan to defeat the Lakers?

    Popovich pulled every trump card and won today utilizing the roster properly. Doug comparing Bradley and Vroman (might as well add the late Kresimer Cosic) while you are at it, to Fes and Koustos is beyond ridiculous. I feel both of our guys are better. As always you guys are clueless-let me elaborate to make sense......No one asked the 2 to be starters..,How many times do we have to tell you that, but play 15-20 minutes a game. You would rather watch Okur just waive at guys and get the amnesia back for playing defense.

    I will take Haywood. I would even take Gorcat, Camby, even Mcgee of the Wizards because I assure you Odom and Gasol would not play volleyball at the rim

  • RE: Good grief
    April 5, 2010 12:12 a.m.

    For ll the winning g the jass have NOTHING to show for it.

    a bucnh of REGULAR season wins.

    what has that really added up to?

    but few extra bucks in owner pockets,

    from dans who been fooled in to believing if they are patient, and wish hard, the may jazz get turn at winning a championship,

    however it doesn't work like that.

    Sloan won't ever win a COY award, ever for one simple resson:

    just look at HOW he coaches DURING a game.

    (jackson, riley, popovich, they all employ a "system", you don't get coaching kudos for having a "system")

  • Good grief
    April 4, 2010 11:46 p.m.

    Yep, the standard idiots are all displaying themselves here, just as I thought. Only about 3 intelligent comments in all this drivel.

    Here's the most important part of the article: "Sloan simply won't be recognized because the Jazz are seen as too well-oiled of a machine."

    That's absolutely true. It boggles my mind that so many people seem to recognize coaching genius when it happens by accident -- as must have been the case with the many COY winners that have crashed and burned directly afterward -- but can't recognize the ultimate expression of coaching genius, which is not just to win once, but to KEEP WINNING.

    So keep holding out, people. I'm sure we Jazz fans will eventually get a coach who has some brilliant accident, wins that all-important COY award, then melts down.

    In the meantime, we'll just have to suffer through this random old guy who "accidentally" kept winning for 22 straight years.

  • Doug
    April 4, 2010 11:39 p.m.

    Todd did you ever hear of Shawn Bradley, or Brett Vroman? Two players at least 7 feet tall and did their best work on the bench.

    Ostertag although popular would not make it as a starter on the current team and that is because there is not a place for a non offensive tall person on the floor.

    Talking about COY too bad Dunleavy got the axe or he may have got the award.

    Denver was going to boot Karl until Billups showed up there and ran the team for him and after that he nearly got the COY.

    If the COY award would help Sloan coach better then I think they should give it to him for Todds sake.

    Till then give it to a popular coach without the experience to really get the best from his team and see if he is still coaching or getting his team ranked 2nd or 3rd in the west on a couple of years.

  • todd to so called experts
    April 4, 2010 6:16 p.m.

    Sloan needs a manual 101 training call Popovich on how to beat the Fakers (2-2)

    No George Hill and Tony Parker

    Spurs destroy the Lakers

    What did Lamar Odom do?


  • To the So-called experts
    April 4, 2010 6:07 p.m.

    Stockton and Malone were the only players in Sloan's tenure that anyone could say was really talented. Other than that, it has been HIS system that has made all the other players. Let's review. David Beniot, Shandon Anderson, and Bryon Russell were all drafted and unknowns. They all did very well with the Jazz but got full of themselves and left to greener pastures never to see the success they had under Sloan's system. Howard Eisley was unknown until he came to the Jazz, became somebody, left and never heard from again. Seriously, I wonder if Stockton or Malone would have had the careers they had if they were not teammates or not in Sloan's system. Neither one of them had the ability to create their own shots, but because of the system found great success. Time will tell with the recent crop of "talent" as some of you so-called experts feel.

  • Travis
    April 4, 2010 5:06 p.m.

    It's really quite redundant to keep metioning that Sloan has never won the award. He's in the Hall of Fame for crying out loud; this award means absolutely nothing. Also do some better research, or proof reading, Earl Monroe was a rookie way before 1986. He played with Clyde Frazier in the '70's.

  • idontthinkso
    April 4, 2010 3:30 p.m.

    only about 10 percent actually think lebron will leave cleveland but if thats many to you...

  • todd to ceelo
    April 4, 2010 1:25 p.m.

    Comparing a great actress who played all kind of roles from college student to today amd mom of grown kids after 40 years, compared to an old fashioned coach with no rings- is like comparing apples and kiwis

  • todd from santa ana
    April 4, 2010 1:13 p.m.

    a coach of the year develops his roster and not have 2 7 footers sit collecting dust

  • akk
    April 4, 2010 1:11 p.m.

    Sloan isn't the best coach in the NBA. He is a product of an owner who gave him all the power he needed. He was lucky he began his career with Stocton and Malone who where ultimate professionals and backed him (as the would have any number of coaches). His is a good coach but nothing special. His in game coaching is suspect. Doesn't use time outs well and is very predictable. He badly mismanaged Kirlinko not to mention Deron Williams rookie year (what a joke). Overall Sloan is an average coach put in a great situation.

  • He deserve it
    April 4, 2010 1:02 p.m.

    Sloan is a GREAT coach. He is not perfect, but he is great. Even Phil Jackson said he does more with less then any other coach. So, like the Utes who now would beg to have Majaerus back, when Sloan is gone and we suffer with less of a coach, we will want him back. There are 20 coaches who could be just as successful as Jackson with his talent, please. You will appreciate him when he is gone.

  • C.O.Y
    April 4, 2010 10:32 a.m.

    This award is a total joke. It goes to the coach whose team exceeded expectations, but the Jazz have been consistently good (with the exception of a couple of years)for the last 20 years and so Sloan never gets it. Jerry Sloan couldn't care less about it, but he definitely should have at least one award by now.

  • thomas
    April 4, 2010 9:17 a.m.

    I think he should win for one reason only...can you say better road record and getting wins in san antonio off his back.Still he has anther job to do and that is breaking the lakers jinx now.

  • He doesn't deserve it
    April 4, 2010 9:12 a.m.

    Sloan is not a great coach. He has had good players all but 1 year of his career and he didn't make the playoffs.

    Watch OKC this year in the playoffs, they are a young team (which sloan makes a excuse for all the time with the jazz), but I bet if the jazz are matched up against them they will lose the series.

  • grouchyoldncjazzfan
    April 4, 2010 7:09 a.m.

    Maybe they should change the "C.O.Y." to the "F.P.Y." ("Flash in the Pan of the Year"). Seems the "C.O.Y." is the "I.N.J." ("I Need a Job.")the next season. Why don't we try a "C.O.D" ("Coach of the Decade") or C.O.2.D. (Coach of 2 decades),or maybe "C.O.2.D.+2". You figure the last one out. No one need apply except Jerry Sloan.

  • anonymous
    April 4, 2010 7:07 a.m.

    Sloan won't win because there are 20 plus coaches in the NBA who could be just as successful (or more so) with this roster. His best performance to date was taking that lousy team after Stock and Malone left, and nearly making the playoff with a team of cast offs.

  • CeeLo
    April 4, 2010 6:04 a.m.

    Jerry is the Susan Lucci of the NBAs COY award. Although, she finally was recognized. I think 13 was her charm. Not sure if he will ever be recognized outside his circle of fans, family and followers by the leagues. And that is a sad statement. At least he finally got well-deserved recognition from the HOF.

  • Black eye on NBA
    April 4, 2010 1:06 a.m.

    Would Slone win C.O.Y.IF he were in Chicago,New York,??If they had 50+season would the media be for him?OR is Utah in a baron forest,or foreign country?What dose it take for this guy? 1 below 500 season in 20+years of NBA service? 1000+ wins.Or dose his name need to be close to Holdsman?if he dose not win this season,he never will.Plus Utah fans wouldn't go for less post season apprentice's. Ask Knicks,Bulls,Nets,clippers fans,if they would like his record?Black eye on the NBA.

  • Anonymous
    April 3, 2010 10:34 p.m.

    Sloan won't win because the Coach of the Year award should be called Coach of the most improved team award, and the Jazz are consistently good.