Utah Jazz go on offensive, take Northwest Divison lead

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  • todd from santa ana
    March 30, 2010 2:19 p.m.

    Last post for now, I will let other thoughts. The posts today by the way are great. Far as Price., I feel top to bottom outside Denver we have the best talent for 3 points in the NBA.

    I am beginning to agree maybe Ron should be backup shooting guard. There are certain matchups that he and DWIL could work possibly vs the "buffoon" Nellie's squad tomorrow vs Monta and Stephen Curry.

    Actually, I think Monta is hurt, but either way, the "buffoon" has so many small mid size tweeners who shoot..Parker is a new long range artist, the guy replacing Raja from France.

    I would like to see Gaines get more time then backing up DWIL. I was still upset to see Maynor go, however, I like Sundiata...I like COmbo guards he just needs experience. Price at times is too herky jerky. But friends--he was in there at start of 4th Quarter and his energy and defense were helpful in slowing down the Knicks during the few minutes last night we played D

    Have a good day....

  • tood from santa ana
    March 30, 2010 2:12 p.m.

    My typo- I meant will try not be over emotional. Sloan has a good offensive system. defensively, I just wish the guys would trust help d and proper switches and just stay in a man's jock and not let shots go up unless they are ridiculous 25-30 footers from straight away or at an angle.

    The Knicks lived with this. That Italian guy and David Lee are really the only guys I like who could maybe fit on the Jazz. I think that coach stinks frankly...To force your system on guys not capable of playing that way is stubborn. If you ever hear D Antoni he always acts arrogant and that is the way, defiantly refuses to adjust and change.

    Jerry is way way better than him.

  • todd to jbra
    March 30, 2010 2:08 p.m.

    I actually will try hard to be over emotional. I respect Houdini. He gave me some "tough love" last year, and I made a conscientious effort to stop ripping Sloan. I think this season I have been good, but when I see the bad habits from last year start up like Indiana game it brings back unpleasant memories how this team quit last year after Larry passed. I thought last year everyone should have gone thru a brick wall to try and win the title for all of us and the state.

    You cannot always I guess make common sense in life.

    the 1233 I would not be worry post was--tremendous, 4 defined points all logical and well written.

    It hurts because I watched Haywood last night on split screen on my computer watching our game. Dallas led most of the night 9-15 points. The post was right earlier "they had killer instinct" Denver not closer than 7 and Dallas then exploded!!

    Haywood really patrols that paint and the Mav announcers raved about his play.

    If we had someone who could do this regularly, I would have few complaints about this roster....

  • Houdini Re Todd and CL
    March 30, 2010 1:32 p.m.

    If we really work hard on the D,the rest will be OK.We are very lucky to have won that game,if NY would have hit any shots at all,it would`ve been a big L,Come-on guys tighten it up (Archie Bell and the Drells)

  • Jazzman72
    March 30, 2010 1:22 p.m.

    Consistency has been a problem with this team for years, even in the Stockton and Malone era. I would say you have to tag alot of that on the coaching. That has been the only constant for 20+ years.

  • Price is a little better than
    March 30, 2010 12:46 p.m.

    last year. He could really help this team if he would play under control and also really try to play PG.

    PG means you try to get the best shots for the rest of the team. Your moves, move not just your man but other opponents giving your team mates scoring opportunities.

    PG does not mean dribbling around until you take a shot out of desperation hoping a team mate will get a rebound.

    PG means making the right passes at the right time to the right people in the right place so they can quickly smoothly make an efficient shot.

    I kind of like Price but I hate him as a PG. He makes some spectacular plays occasionally but he just does not run the offense very well.

    Sloan put him in because he is quick. Playing him with DWill is helpful in some situations.

    I know the Jazz are road weary and miss AK. However, the PGs control the pace. They have to make sure the offense runs and at the right pace.

    They have been doing very poorly lately on pace and also running the offense. That along with poor defense will kill the Jazz.

  • I wouldn't be worried
    March 30, 2010 12:33 p.m.

    Yeah the game last night was a little closer than it should be, but we shouldn't be worried about it. Remember the knicks ended that huge dallas win streak. A few things that need to happen by playoff time are
    1. Ak needs to get healthy and in his groove prior to playoff time
    2. CJ needs to learn to give a solid game night in and night out, Im always impressed with him when his shot is on and he takes the ball to the hole. But too often he comes out and jacks up ridiculous shots and constantly gets beat by his man.
    3. Price needs to learn how to control his energy. His energy and athleticism can be huge assets especially in a playoff game, but if he gets out of control were going to lose any lead we had built up while Deron was in. Im definitely not opposed to Price getting a few shooting guard minutes.
    4. the whole team needs to get control of the defense issues that have popped up lately. Having AK back should help with that. This could mostly be fixed by focusing and making crisp rotations like before.

  • Boozer ?
    March 30, 2010 11:48 a.m.

    I hear a lot about keeping Boozer. This has been one of his best years. I hope if they do sign him again they make something in his contract about the number of games he must contribute in, and attend. He seams to have an urgency and energy that must continue every year. Can that be done?

  • kge
    March 30, 2010 11:39 a.m.

    Everytime CJ Miles steps on the court I cringe. He's not an asset to this team. He's never saw a shot he doesn't like, plays poor defense, rebounds only if it falls in his hands, can't take care of the ball, doesn't show enough hustle to be a Jazz player. All others make the team better, he doesn't.

  • NGB on Price
    March 30, 2010 11:05 a.m.

    If their was a more worthless back up pg than price it might have been brevin knight, but they were both bad.

    Price provides energy that is needed at the shooting guard, not at the point. He gambles way too much on defense and thinks he can block like 5 shots a game when he should just be putting a hand in guys faces.

    He gets beat so often and yet everyone calls him a speedster, he needs to get some speed laterally cuz he consistantly gets beat and usually swats at his guy and fouls him.

    Energy doesn't help when you come in and dont run the offense as a PG. 2nd quarter was a prime example of that. He makes it too hard, give the ball to the money makers and don't jack up every other shot when you come in, that's all we ask.

    0 assists is the kicker, Dwill 14, price 0. how is it possible that you run the offense and can't get an assist in 15 mins of play.

    We need better from him during the playoffs or gaines needs to come in because this is getting scary.

  • NGB
    March 30, 2010 10:57 a.m.

    I'm glad at the latter part of the posts, people started to realize that this knicks team is actually dangerous as the indiana team.

    Beat Dallas at Dallas right in the midst of that crazy streak and beat Denver on their home court.

    So lets give them some credit for coming to play.

    This was a game where fes or KK wouldn't have made a difference cuz they were just jackin up outside shots.

    But Korver was just stinking it up out there, wow, and they just kept running plays for him after he was 1 for 5, nothing change, Dwill needed to keep the ball out of Korver's hands cuz he was not on last night.

    I was yelling at the Tv at Jerry to call a timeout like i normally do during games and he actually did. He seemed to try and manage a squad taht seemed to want to give this game away, so good coaching night Jerry.

    Dwill needs to be the leader that attacks the rim and dishes, not a jump shooter that looks like a rookie throwing up shots cuz he's hot for a moment.

  • Price
    March 30, 2010 10:31 a.m.

    The fact that price didn't score a lot is almost irrelevant. He plays with so much energy that it inspires the rest of the team to raise their level of play. Sloan saw this and that is why he played the entire 4th quarter! His defense was active which made the difference in this game, that, and when Boozer and Williams finally came back in after a long rest you knew the game was over. Without Matthews coming off the bench, Price is the only energy player left to sub in.

  • jbra80
    March 30, 2010 9:40 a.m.

    Oh and Todd, about my comment the other day. You know I wouldn't question your loyalty to the Jazz. I used to come on here and argue with you after every game or even every article, but we've realized we kind of think alike more often than not. I know you get emotional after every game, win or lose, so usually i just let you vent. Not everyone on here is going to always agree with you, but who posts on here regularly would know you're a fan.

  • Dump cj
    March 30, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    he is lazy!

  • jbra80
    March 30, 2010 9:34 a.m.

    Every win can't be pretty and every win against a lowly team can't be a blowout, so i'm happy we got the W. Sure you can't play like that against a better team but luckily for us, we didn't play a better team. A big win for what it means, now we need to focus down the stretch and not let games out of our hands. Dallas could lose ground after their back to back, so lets see how things look after this week.

    The way people post and complain on here, you'd have no idea we're fighting for the #2 seed.

  • Rich
    March 30, 2010 9:33 a.m.

    D-Will had a great first quarter offensively. On defense he was horrible, however, and that continued through the game. After hitting those threes in the first quarter, however, he went cold, and when the Jazz really needed to go inside, he kept jacking up jump shots. Normally he would work hard to ensure that the Jazz got a good shot after missing a couple of long jumpers, but last night he seemed to think that he was hot enough and that the Knicks were bad enough that he could be selfish offensively for a change. Hey, we're all human, but I'm glad it was the Knicks instead of a better team because the Jazz finally righted the ship. It seemed as though Price got a few more minutes than normal because Sloan was trying to get Williams to get under control again. But then Price started to do the same thing. And then D-Will went back in and threw up a couple of clunkers immediately. That's when he finally started to play well again -- just in time. We'll take the W.

  • todd on sloan is smarter than we
    March 30, 2010 8:57 a.m.

    EXcept if only maybe 3 of those 60 zillion "3s" the Jazz allowed the Knicks to put up go in, he would not be looking very smart today.....

    It looked like last night back to "okurrie and snoozie" as in "ah let the Knicks score as they drive by because we will get it right back"

    I expect everyone to put in more than 6-8 minutes of defense tomorrow night, The Warriors will probably shoot 30 3s. Expect many to go in.,...

  • re: Sloan is smarter than we thi
    March 30, 2010 8:55 a.m.

    Funny Lilliputian's like you think Sloan looks small...

  • BAJ
    March 30, 2010 8:50 a.m.

    This game serves as the example of what all of us Jazz fans fear....inconsistency. 44 points in the first quarter? 16 in the fourth? Yes, we are in 3rd place, but Phoenix and Denver have a knife at our throat and any little slip-up and then we will get pushed back multiple spots. Ronnie Price, TWO points, ZERO assists in 15 minutes? that will not work come playoff time. a win is a win, but the jazz still have more to prove before the playoffs start. this is a team capable of the 2 seed, the only way that will come though is through increased consistency. go jazz, you can do it

  • Sloan is smarter than we think
    March 30, 2010 8:08 a.m.

    One thing I like about Jerry is that he recognizes what will happen. I heard he was upset about the 3 pointers and in the 4th quarter that Jazz settled for jump shots. Who can create their own shot or dribble penetrate? Boozer in the post? Williams need to make this HIS team and become that guy.

  • Sloan is smarter than we think
    March 30, 2010 7:28 a.m.

    One thing I like about Jerry is that he recognizes what will happen. I heard he was upset about the 3 pointers and in the 4th quarter that Jazz settled for jump shots. Who can create their own shot or dribble penetrate? Boozer in the post? Williams need to make this HIS team and become that guy.

  • Jazz Cop
    March 30, 2010 5:48 a.m.

    I will give credit to sloan for this one, he was definitely more prepared than the players. His timeouts were effective, but if this game on the road, we would've lost.
    Gs is a similar nightmare waiting to happen, as alot think, so do i, at this point, a w is a w, truth be told, we're not at full strength. Sloan didn't let the guys slip up on this one, so, credit where credit is due. We're going to need games like last night from sloan.
    No more, throwing it on the players, blaming them,

    I've seen you sloan, if he can't get this team to pull out a w at home against gs, there is going to be some questions around the team, and it will be on sloan,
    he showed last night, even when dwill and no one wants to play the system, he can make enough adjustments to keep the team on track.
    the players should be putting in extra time,
    obviously, the jazz need to take every precaution possible, anything is possible against gs,
    it might be a good game to work in fes/kouf.

  • Jazz Cop
    March 30, 2010 5:11 a.m.

    I see where some of you are worried. The players said it all, dwill and the rest of them know too.
    Ironically, at home against ny, this was probably the biggest game of the year so far. So, even though it was ny, I would expect the gs game to be a similar test for the jazz, can they stay focused enough to win a game they should easily win.
    Knowing the pitfalls of complacency, the nba season is long and you know, i'm not going to jump on the guys backs for not 'getting up' for ny, but its definitely taking a huge risk.
    The good teams and players are gearing down and putting in extra time, thats what it's all about to stay prepared, luckily, dallas and denver are also having problems getting prepared for 'less important' games. Phx too, though we have a game lead and play them at home on the final game, they smell blood. denver is definitely on a hard slide, and they could drop even further, or they could get hot and get the second seed,
    after tonight, dallas has the most talent, if we can somehow sneak by them,

  • This time of year?
    March 30, 2010 4:11 a.m.

    I keep hearing about 'this time of year'! In fact, where we be with W's in Minnesota that 'other' time of the year?

  • way too critical
    March 30, 2010 3:07 a.m.

    As always the posters are way too critical of the Jazz. From the comments it seems that you expect the Jazz to win every game by 30 points.

    2nd quarter the Jazz were hoping that NY would lay down, they didn't, played loose and got back in the game.

    NY runs the most complicated offensive sets in the league, its stuff the Jazz NEVER see and the unfamiliar can be surprisingly effective.

    NY has wins against DAL and DEN, yet the Jazz swept em. Give em credit instead of getting upset over every turnover.

  • No AK...
    March 30, 2010 1:28 a.m.

    No defense...it just continues game after game.

    I wish he could get healthy because the bad defensive outings are piling up and each one brings risks of losing games we should not.

    Denver is imploding. Pretty amazing really. I find it difficult to believe Kenyon Marting can make that much difference. I don't think it is the fact the coach is out either--its not like they listen to him.

    The team stunk till billups got there but even now he can't hold them together. I said at the beginning of the season they are always just a step away from blowing up even with all their talent.

    They could spiral clear to the 8 seed and play lakers 1st series--how great would that be?

    We can dream!

  • Anonymous
    March 29, 2010 11:49 p.m.

    the moment price entered the game in the 2nd quarter i knew the game would become close. price is clueless when playing the point. i've seen that in a few games before. when price subs in for wiliams, the jazz game goes sour. but it's not entirely price's fault that the game was close. as always, the jazz couldn't play defense! how else could you let a bottom-feeder score 60 points at utah's home court?!? no wonder the jazz can't beat the lakers, nuggets and OKC. the suns might even beat them in the playoffs the way utah plays defense. just awful.

  • DEN may only win 2
    March 29, 2010 11:48 p.m.

    more games. That may or may not drop them out of 5th. SA lost but has been hot lately. OKC has also won 6 out of the last 10 and POR has won 8 of the last 10.

    One or more of them could catch DEN if they can't right the ship.

    If the Jazz don't get their act together they also could drop to 4th or 5th very easily.

    If Utah were playing well I would expect them to get the 2 seed but right now it is very hard to tell what teams are going to have which match ups.

    How soon is AK back? He makes a tremendous difference in how the defense performs and also ads rebounds and shooting that is lacking. Korver tried really hard but the fast paced effected him. CJ played well at times. He is doing better.

    The big problem is at PG. The offense just does not run much of the time. Great individuals plays but the offense does not run. Lots of TOs, bad timing on shots, bad shots. Not an efficient offense. The does not get to the right player at the right time.

  • @ todd
    March 29, 2010 11:45 p.m.

    Agreed Todd, The Warriors can also be hit n miss, so we will need to step up from tonight performance just in case they get hot.....

    It's not far off a year ago that an under manned Warriors came to the ESA & beat an under prepared Jazz.

    to get 2nd seed, history cannot repeat itself !!!

  • Mater
    March 29, 2010 11:44 p.m.

    44 point 1st qtr and then the snooze button, hard to wake up after the snooze button was pushed. But really it was the Knicks so not a problem. They usually don't hit the snooze against quality teams so relax comment posters. Look for a dominant performance Wed.

  • todd from santa ana
    March 29, 2010 11:12 p.m.

    A real struggle. I am happy we won. However, New York could not hit a pea in the ocean or it would have been a different story. Mike D' Antoni is trying to remain Phoenix East. One problem you need good dishers and shooters to make the offense work. Talk about stubborn. He makes Sloan look like Tommy Edison....

    The game was won the first half of the 4th quarter. This is when the Jazz finally stepped on defense enough to win this game. Millsap, Price CJ each a block, Korver. The Knicks had problems scoring with the intensity around the basket which was critical.

    Despite this we could not gain separation. Sloan as usual gave up the 3 point shot and once again survived the strategy because the Knicks stunk from the outside. A good shooting or even 1/2 way good shooting night from an opponent, we lose.

    Another concern not scoring the last 4 minutes. Luckily, New York again failed to capitalize. Boozer and DWil restored enough order. DWIL 5 and Boozer 2 in 7-0 run gaining enough separation 103-93.

    A win is a win, but Golden State can shoot better. Cannot repeat this Wednesday

  • UkJazz
    March 29, 2010 11:12 p.m.

    a win is a win & at this time of the season that's all that matters......

    2nd seed is possible, here's hoping....

  • UkJazz
    March 29, 2010 10:58 p.m.

    a win is a win & at this time of the season that's all that matters......

    2nd seed is possible, here's hoping....

  • There were great plays
    March 29, 2010 10:52 p.m.

    by all of the Jazz players.

    BUT they were not working that well as a team. This is not a playoff contender. If they play this bad at home don't expect much better on the road. Beating WAS on the road and NY (barely) at home does not impress me much.

    The Jazz are not as hapless as DEN right now but they are flirting with it. PHX has an easy schedule so does DAL. The Jazz might back into the division win and a 4th seed. They may or may not have home field advantage.

    There are to many good teams in the West that are actually playing well. The Jazz are not one of them.

    If they do not get their offensive act together and and put forth a consistent defensive effort you are going to see a repeat of last years swoon.

    The Jazz played hard. Part of the time they played well. Most of the time they did not play smart.

    Al Harrington would be an excellent pick up for the Jazz if Boozer leaves.

  • CL
    March 29, 2010 10:48 p.m.

    Re Houdini : Didn't see your post until after I posted, but I agree with you, this was an ugly win and I'm not happy with the way the Jazz have been playing. The way they are playing makes me worry.
    Everyone from 2nd to 7th are so close that there isn't any room for error and if the Jazz aren't careful they will lose out on home court advantage.
    If they play well, definitely 3rd and maybe 2nd, but like I said, the way they are playing worries me. they don't seem to be playing with enough emotion, intensity and determination.

  • CL
    March 29, 2010 10:38 p.m.

    DWill and Booz had very good games, Milsap pretty good, everyone else just OK.
    Maybe it's just me but I don't see the Jazz playing with enough emotion and determination.
    They won tonight but it wasn't pretty and they didn't clamp down on D and exert their will enough on O.
    CJ in particular hasn't been playing with emotion, he is trying to play within the system and that is good, but he needs to play with excitement, emotion, & energy.
    I think by Sunday, Phx will be ahead of the Jazz and I'm worried about NO they are playing well lately, since CP3 came back.
    Houston is a back to back and that could be trouble.
    I don't see us beating LA, there.
    I would like to see only one loss but probably 2 and possibly 3 if they don't step it up.
    It a good thing several of the teams, like SA, OKC, & Denver have more difficult schedules than the Jazz.

  • CJ Miles fan
    March 29, 2010 10:22 p.m.

    I loved it when CJ smoked McGrady on that dunk.

  • Price Block
    March 29, 2010 10:15 p.m.

    Price's block and then layup was pretty cool.

  • Houdini
    March 29, 2010 10:01 p.m.

    Ugly ,you took the words right out......just like the Wizards game we won,but geez,can`t we play a little d? We miss AK a bunch more than most want to admit.I`m not one bit pleased with this effort.If we play this way aginst GS,they`ll beat us handily

  • Missing AK was a big
    March 29, 2010 9:56 p.m.

    problem tonight. Korver could not hit given the fast pace. CJ played pretty well much of the time. Korver made some great defensive plays and some clutch FTs.

  • This game
    March 29, 2010 9:52 p.m.

    is a prime example of why it is hard to have faith in Utah. There are times when both DWill and Price just do not run the offense. The defense was also poor at times. But the big problem is pace. NY zoned at times and the Jazz offense faltered.

    Ordinarily I would blame Sloan but I think he just does not have control of this team. They flat out do not run the offense unless they want to.

    DAL grabbed DEN by the throat and never let up. Utah almost blew it at home against a bad team. PHX is breathing down their back.

    GS is a another really bad game. If the Jazz try to fun and gun with them or PHX they are going to lose.

    The Jazz has to play to their own strengths and not try to play another teams game. Experienced, smart teams do that.

    I could become a Price fan if he would play smart (run the offense instead of jack up shots) and play under control.

  • Jody,
    March 29, 2010 9:49 p.m.

    You forgot to mention that we gave the Knicks ANOTHER loss to help out our cause for a better 1st round draft pick!

  • Phil
    March 29, 2010 9:41 p.m.

    Great Victory for the Jazz, lets just see if the Jazz can pass up Dallas. The Jazz, in my opinion, only have 2 really tough games ahead--OKC and LAL. If we win the games we should and maybe steal a game from either OKC or LAL, who --lets be honest--have dominated the Jazz this year, the Jazz can win the second seed.