Great, as has been seen in the past; if we don't stand up against the government
it will run all over us. Though if we use our rights and speak for ourselves
lawfully we can rightfully have access to what God has given us to provide for
ourselves and our families - His creation. Lets let the government realize they
are employed by us and expect them to stand for right - not filling their own
This country and its respective states would not be in the mess we are in right
now if we could develop our natural resources. The majority of this country's
resources are found under states with the majority under federal control.
Western states should have the right to develop these resources in places that
were usurped by the federal government under so-called monument status.Give it a try, Guv! I hope more states follow. By the way, who is going to
enforce keeping the state out, the national guard? of Utah? who are sworn to
follow the Guv? Will Obama deploy the Army from Afghanistan to come back over
and put Utah in its place?The Constitution places all rights not
given by the states to the federal government to be retained by the states.
Show me in the constitution where the states gave the federal government the
right to "own" any state land! Or take over any state land!States
rule so develop the land and solve our energy problems! Besides Obama is a
1-termer with the Dems seeking the back door to slip out after the massive
You go nut-cakes.All I can say is this was the sort of rhetoric that
finally forced Lincoln to come down on the South.You nuts are
wrong,You will be crushed in the end,..and the rebel States will
spend the next 100 years diggin out of the ashes, and will forever be
stigmatized with being a bunch of red-necked, ignorant, backward hicks.I suggest you tone down the rhetoric, saber rattling, and fear mongering....btw, If you're LDS,Follow the prophet - not your radios.
Public is defined as the community or the people as a whole. These are "public
lands" They belong to all Americans.Why is it, I know Point Reyes
and other public lands in California belong to all Americans including Utahns
but, the governor of Utah believe stealing from Americans is right? What in
"Thou Shall Not Steal" did Utah's governor miss learning from his parents as a
child growing up in Utah?
Publicity Stunt and more anti-Obama/anti-democratic majority under the guies of
What is the Governor thinking? I long for the days when Huntsman was Governor
and had common sense! Spend money on the schools not enacting some ridiculous
lawsuit we will loose! This fight has Mike Noel written all over it and no one
filed to run against Noel next election! What part of Federal government does
Utah not understand? I for one am happy that these lands are owned by the
National Park Service and the BLM. I sure notice a lot of National TV shows
that highlight our beautiful Federal Lands in Motorcycle/ATV shows, hiking and
climbing shows, recreation and travel. Why do we fight it and want to develop,
drill it? I hope this crazy fight doesn't stop Cedar Breaks National Monument
from moving to National Park status. The only thing this lawsuit will do is
make us look foolish in the national press. Thumbs down Herbert.
Does the State of Utah actually think that control over public property would
make it any easier to circumvent the will of the people in the management of
these lands? Is every Utahan of like mind as to how these lands are managed?
Does State control of public property just magically make the democratic process
evaporate and cause the wrangling over very real issues to just go away? Just
because the State controls something does not make it akin to private property.
The 3 million dollars is to pay lawyers to fight a case they don't expect to
win.The lawyers say it's worth fighting, because they're the ones
being paid to fight it.
It is a stupid bill. Utah ceded this land to the federal government when Utah
was admitted to the union in 1896. You may not like it, but that is what
happened. You cannot invalidate a contract just because you don't like it.
Maybe it would be better to work with the landowner, rather than against. We do not want our state to become like most eastern states where
private landowners own all the land.
The Gov and his lawmaker buddies have forgotten the oath they swore to uphold
the U.S. Constitution. "This Constitution, and the Laws of the
United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made,
or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the
supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby,
any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
notwithstanding." Article 6
Shurtliff is correct. What most do not realize is that the federal government
is basically fascist in thought and intent (democrat party). This means the
government has to control the population absolutely and also the means of
production. In the United States, land has hjistorically furthered production.
Without it, options are limited. Federal Land seizures are merely part of the
entire picture, including gun (citizen) control. They also want to limit our
ability to travel (congregate). Obuma's comments that he needs an internal
military at least as large as the external military should have put the warning
to every thinking American. Especially when he already has that military --
millions strong in an armed citizenry. The latter being the democrats biggest
fear. Republicans do not attempt citizen control. Figure it out people!
The government steals/takes the land from the Natives, everyone cheers, except
the Natives, of course. But now that the goverment wants to preserve some land
by taking it away from "us," well, that's just not right. Any of you ever heard
of greed. That's all America is: Greed. That's why we're in the financial
mess we're in. And that's why other countries don't like us very much.
This is a good bill. Utah needs to stand up against the federal government.
Mark Shurtleff has been Utah's Attorney General since 2000. He waited all these
years to engage in this altercation. Wouldn't he and the republican governor
have a better chance to reclaim these lands during the last 10 years when
republicans controlled the white house and the congress at which time the oil
topped $145 a barrel. The only logical reason why they're engaging in this
lawsuit is purely political. Shurtleff has the aspiration to run for the senate
seat and any lawsuit against the federal government will help him lock into that
lucrative conservative votes.
What a joke. Spending $3 million on a case “that legislators’ own
attorneys acknowledge has little chance of success”? Has Mark Shurtleff
ever heard of the saying pick and choose your battles? Why are we spending
money on frivolous lawsuits when there are more important needs for the state?
The Republicans need to supply a better attorney general or I am going to start
voting for the Democrats.
You go, gov! States need to reassert their rights, and you have to start
somewhere. Trying to take back energy-rich lands is relevant, poignant, and