The trax downtime reality make doing this when they did logical. I also
would ask "when does the Sabbath start?" Personally, I think it is the type of
issue you need to make on an individual basis. I am guessing that
normally constuction work on this site does not occur on Sunday, or in the
middle of the night. However, the Pedestrian bridge is a special case, and so
they need to apply special rules.
The bridge set on Sunday morning was the culmination of thousands of hours of
work by hundreds of dedicated workers. From planners, architects, engineers,
detailers, project and safety managers, shop fabricators, operators and field
ironworkers,and a host of other trades; everyone performed flawlessly to make
this incredibly complex undertaking look simple. I'm proud to have
been a part of the team that completed the bridge erection on time, without
injury to site personnel, or negative impact to the public and city of Salt
Lake. This is one to remember. I look forward to walking across the
completed bridge and shopping in downtown Salt Lake City. The planners behind
the City Creek Center are moving Salt Lake City into the 21st century as a world
class city. Thank you for making this a great place for my children to grow up
I never would have guessed putting up a bridge would become a religous
debate...wow look how far we've come.
HA HA HA HA HA!! That's funny! I was wondering when you would show up.
Do you really these posts are serious? I don'tthink so.....
I just walked past the sky bridge a few minutes ago. It looks great. It really
adds a more urban feel to the city. Reminds me of the area near Grand Central
Station in NYC, where I used to live.
What is the focus of this article? A cool sky bridge, constructed on site,
raised successfully. . .or a Sunday School discussion about the meaning of
"keeping the Sabbath holy" and who gets to determine what that is is.Kudos on the engineering, people!
This looks horrible! They've ruined Main Street again!!!
I think that first comment is a hoax, written by one of those who love to cause
huh? you might spell check next time and grammar check. what is the diffence
between a methodist and a baptist? methodists can read. you proved this point!
They built this thing right there on Main Street. I was amazed they could do
this with the very limited space available and with minimal traffic disruptions.
Great photo's, did they bring it in on truck or rail?
People get real. Quit being so self rightous. Mormons are not the promint
religion anymore. The Babtist are. I don't hear them complaining! There is
750volts of electricty in those wires that make the trains run. They have to
power down the lines so no one get electrocuted. Uta is obligated to fullfill
their commitment for the city to provide service for the public. Scedules can't
be changed just because a bridge needs to put in place. During the weekdays
there is only about 4 hours from end of service to start of service and about 6
hours from end of service to begining of service on Sunday. Therefore the work
needed to be done on Sunday morning. There is a lot more people who ride Trax
than people who are unhappy for the church working on Sunday.
I would bet that whoever was in charge of making the decision on when the bridge
would be set knew full well the decision they were making. I would also bet they
had approval from church leaders. For those of you who were disappointed in the
church for allowing this, get real. You sound like the people who got mad at the
Savior for helping others on the Sabbath.
Did I miss the part about the Church being the ones to put this up?
Sunday is not the right day for this (no matter the time of morning)- we are
taught bet than this. I would think the Church would have better tact. I am a
little dissappointed on where exception are seen fit.
The reason for doing it on a Saturday night into Sunday morning is due to TRAX
having a later start time on Sunday, which gave the construction teams
additional time to place the bridge, demobilize and then get all pedestrian
walkways back into place. If this had been done on any other night,there was a
potential that TRAX service would have been interrupted the following morning.
So Sunday work was required.
I am looking at the bigger picture. There is simply no evidence to suggest that
it would've been drastically worse had it been done on another day. I haven't
seen any logical claims here that would explain why it was justified for the
church to compromise the example it is supposed to set. And once
again, the example you gave is just in now way equatable. Just because the
sabbath is broken in one circumstance (regardless of whether or not it is
justified) does not make it right to do so in another.
only in Utah...
The sabbath is there to make better the life of man. Man does not serve the
sabbath.I imagine that the construction company watched traffic
patterns from night to night and found the least intrusive time.I'm
a contractor (not construction) and have worked for the Church on many a Sunday.
I also enjoy watching KSL on Sunday, and have visited Temple Square more times
on Sunday than I have worked for the church on Sunday - a lot. I'm
grateful for the church employees and contractors who work Sundays to make it a
better day for me. I don't have grandkids yet, but I imagine they'll enjoy that
bridge for years to come.
For one ... you are sounding extremely preachy.Secondly as it was
pointed out this type of project would have been extremely difficult to do on a
weekday night. I really don't think the church fell short of any
expectations. I've seen General Authorities outside of the SLC area in
restaurants on Sunday. Does that fall short of my expectations of them? No.Look at the bigger picture.
To "To Anonymous(2):" Some things are indeed necessary to pay for on the
sabbath, but I don't think this is one of them, and I don't think the examples
you cited should be used to justify this. I'm not saying they shouldn't have
done this at midnight, I'm saying they should've chosen another day, or at least
not sold tickets (which is what bothers me most of all). The only thing that was
disrupted was TRAX, and that was only beyond the station at City Creek, for a
few hours. It wouldn't have been much different at all had they done it some
other day. This wasn't an urgent need, or a matter of major inconvenience, as
you project it to be.
To "Holy Ghost:" funny, but that makes no sense. There's nothing wrong with
being up that late. Also, it's not a "participation" event, and its success is
in no way affected by the number of people who show up, so I was not supporting
it in any way. I live downtown and was woken up by all the commotion
(specifically the helicopter flying around in circles above my building), so I
went and watched. To "To Anonymous(1):" I don't see why I shouldn't
stand up for what I think is right. Usually people are criticized for blind
obedience. In this case, I'm just pointing out that the church fell short of the
expectations of one of its own members.To "Chuck:" I'm sorry if my
beliefs aren't important to you. I'm not trying to be preachy, but given the
circumstances I think I am justified in pointing out that their priorities are
mixed up from what they usually are, and should be. A simple matter of
convenience is not more important than obeying commandments and setting good
examples in my eyes.
I live in the pacfic northwest and have been watching this project closely. What
an awesome project. I only wish we had a project of this magnitude to stimulate
I'm very excited for this new addition to our downtown. My thanks to the
construction workers, downtown merchants who have to put up with the
construction, the planners, the designers and the funders for making SLC even
better.I'm seriously considering a new condo downtown. What is it
they say? Downtown IS rising.
If it makes you feel any better, the Church has to pay for things like Church
Security to work on Sundays. As a general rule, the Church minimizes the numbers
that have to work on a Sunday. If you had stopped to consider a little more, you
may have realized some other factors. Like the fact that there was a Jazz game
in downtown last night. By midnight, the bulk of the fans had left downtown.
Most restaurants and any other places are for the best part closed. Closing
access to Main and the area was best done at this time, for the sake of the SLPD
and the people that live/work in Downtown. Think harder before speaking please.
It was the right time to do a job like this. The scripture is not just an adage
that people use to do what they want on Sunday. Truly sometimes the ox is in
the mire, and it is expediant and right to do something like this on the day
that will have the least impact on the most people. I applaud those who made
the decision especailly since I know they knew there would be nitwits who don't
understand the this is the right way of doing this.
Maybe it's best if the church allows construction companies some latitude to
make their own decisions.
Goodness, Anonymous needs to get a sense of what is important! Thank you for
doing this over the weekend to minimize disruption to the world that lives in
reality. There are many ignorant zealots that do not understand how projects
are done. Thankfully most of these nuts live overseas. I would be suprized to
find a single individual that was not completly happy to be there. Back to
why did you go then?
Clearly you are a Pharisee. Go stand on some other corner to belt out your
Hey anonymous, what were you doing up at 12:01? Doesn't the holy ghost go to bed
at midnight? And if you were so digusted with the event why did you particpate
by showing up?
I'm very disappointed they did this on a sunday. I expect more from my church
than paying people to work on Sunday. One of the construction workers was
selling passes for people to watch the bridge moving up close, well after 12:01.
This disgusts me as a Latter-day Saint. They should feel ashamed for doing this,
when they easily could have done this another night.