BCS distributes revenue inequitably, hurting Utah's schools

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  • Dear MWC Fan
    March 27, 2010 10:46 a.m.

    Go back to bed and let your body join your brain, because that is where it is. What nonsense. You must live in North Dakota or Alaska.

    Other states know and are interested in BYU. I experienced that living out of state. Get your head out the hole in the ground.

  • Do something about it . . .
    March 27, 2010 10:29 a.m.

    . . . Mr. Hatch. You mentioned "there is a strong argument to make that the BCS violates our nation's antitrust laws, which outlaw contracts designed to reduce market competition." So if the BCS violates our nation's antitrust laws, what are YOU, Mr. Hatch, going to do about seeing that this violation is addressed in the courts and in Congress? Huh? Huh? Huh? All talk talk talk.

    When does Mr. Hatch's senate seat expire? Perhaps folks need to consider a change. Anybody can just talk talk talk. One request: Mr. Hatch, DO SOMETHING and stop just talking, talking and talking about the BCS volating anti-trust laws!

    Are we where we are with Obama because there is just talk, talk, talk?

  • Not Worried
    March 23, 2010 8:43 a.m.

    The BCS will be broke like the rest of ameriKa soon. SO SAD

  • dawgfan
    March 23, 2010 8:30 a.m.

    I agree with this cause 100% I feel as though the BCS is more interested in the $$$ involved than the actually game that it's rules "govern". Even as a fan from a "priveleged" conference, i want there to be a playoff system in place. I believe it is the only fair way to deduce a winner from all the competitors. The money will all fall into place in the end....

  • Bib2
    March 22, 2010 10:32 p.m.

    Might the detractors be those who have a strong interest in the status quo. Bust the BCS up. It is un-American.

    Failing that - all the "left out" Universities should form a play-off system, invite BCS schools to participate, and then hold the playoffs whether the BCS teams play or not.

    Go Senator Hatch!

  • McNasty
    March 22, 2010 4:11 p.m.

    Re: Stop whining @3:01 pm

    Pointing out the inequalities of a monopolistic association is hardly socialism.

    Re: No to Gov Involvement @2:24 pm

    "Change should come from the universities". Why don't you explain to us exactly why universities that are raking in tens of millions of dollars would unilaterally start to share the wealth.

    Hatch is not proposing socialism nor is he proposing bigger government. He basically is looking into violations of the Sherman anti-trust law that has been on the books for decades. Calling that socialistic and big government intrusion is simply moronic.

    Got news for you; I don't know about you two, but almost all people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

  • Stop whining
    March 22, 2010 3:01 p.m.

    Sounds like Socialism to me.....

  • BCS is a Bust
    March 22, 2010 2:34 p.m.

    Just name it the "Tropical Bowls for Boosters" series and just regulate the use of the word "championship." College football has been crooked from the beginning. I love the MWC, but am amused that anyone ever makes the argument for equality. Bowls are inherently unequal. Just call it something else and build our own bowl attendance. Where the money flows, others will follow.

  • NO to Govt Involvement
    March 22, 2010 2:24 p.m.

    Hatch is a hypocrite. He is for smaller government...except when it comes to Utah college football - then he becomes like any other Liberal Democrat that thinks its government's responsibility to correct the inequities of life.

    Anyone opposed to big government should be opposed to government intervention here. YES, the BCS needs to be changed, but NO it should not be government administered or anything our public officials should be wasting government money on. Change should come from the universities, not Uncle Sam.

    If Hatch needs some issues to be more worried about, I've got a few suggestions: Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy, the budget deficit, and the national debt.

  • autoqualifer
    March 22, 2010 1:25 p.m.

    Dutchman, all 119 division 1 teams get the same number of scholarships for football. And they can't hide players by giving them scholarships for other sports, such as track or baseball; if they play football their scholarship counts toward the limit, so on your note about scholarships, all schools are on equal footing. Walk-ons without a scholarship are probably more prevelent at the larger schools because they want to play at the higher level of competition. And no one seems to address where to play these playoff games. As a long-time season ticket holder in a major conference, I can go to a bowl game, but I can't swing a playoff swith multiple trips, and don't forget that individual programs are significantly funded by season ticket holders like me. Don't lock me out so you can watch football from the comfort of your family room...

  • Football Fan
    March 22, 2010 1:22 p.m.

    College football will never be an equal sharing system, nor will everyone agree who the national champion is. It has always been this way. Take a good look at how many times Alabama and Penn State have had undefeated seasons and NOT played for the championship. Are you gonna re-write the history books?

    OUR government should be governing the people, not wasting time with this. By the way, if my memory serves correctly, Auburn was left out of the BCS championship game in 2004. It has NOTHING to do with the "big conferences." The better teams played that day. Would Senator Hatch even address this if he wasn't from Utah?

  • Unknown
    March 22, 2010 1:15 p.m.

    Those who think that the US Congress should be wasting any more time on the BCS rather than on far more pressing issues that plague this country are truly the dumb ones!

  • Dutchman
    March 22, 2010 8:03 a.m.

    Thank you Senator Harch. I agree with you. I am willing to bet that every athlete at every one of the six BCS conferences has a full ride scholarship. Hundreds of athletes at the non BCS conferences compete without full ride scholarships. This is the equality you are fighting for Senator Hatch and I applaud you.

  • Anonymous
    March 21, 2010 6:03 p.m.

    I am starting to believe that Orrin Hatch is a socialist.Taking revenue from BCS school and redistributing it to all schools sounds like socialism. Why can't non BCs schools simply have their own championship? What is next? Will Orrin come out in favor of taking tax money to pay for universal health care? When all school;s contribute equally to the BCs then all can share a equal share. Do it the American way, play harder and truth and justice will prevail.

  • Brad James
    March 21, 2010 3:14 p.m.

    Anyone who thinks the BCS is legal is stupid beyond belief. I'm really agitated that E. Gordon Gee, president of The Ohio State University, professes to be Mormon and yet remains insistent that the BCS is ethical and bereft of any wrongdoing. If Gee is a practicing Mormon, I guess he doesn't believe in the Book of Mormon because it adamantly teaches that greed is wrong and we need to share. Beyond that, this entire country was built on the premise of competition and being the best you could be. Now that Pittsburgh and Xavier are playing, I say Go Muskies, bring the number of non-BCS affiliated conference teams in the Sweet 16 to five teams. That's right, if Xavier wins, more than 25 percent of the teams left in the tournament are from so-called non-power conferences. The BCS is a pile of garbage@ Thanks Senator and Happy Birthday tomorrow. You're a great facebook friend!

  • "MWC Fan" is Wrong
    March 21, 2010 1:05 p.m.

    MWC Fan--you're dead wrong about revenue. The non-BCS teams have outdrawn the Orange Bowl the past two post-seasons in terms of attendance and TV viewership, but the BCS hasn't even considered cutting into the ACC/Big East/Big Ten share....

    Nothing about the BCS is based on market performance.

  • @MWC Fan
    March 21, 2010 1:04 p.m.

    Other reasons the BCS must go and that we shouldn't quit our crying... College Football is the best sports season with the worst ending. Its all about hoarding the money for the majors and giving a little here and there to the "mid-majors". I'm tired of the "traditions of the bowl games" excuses and the arguments about concern for the athletes educations, and concerns that it would diminish the importance of the regular season. That is all a load of you know what. Can you imagine what a Bowl Season would be like if it were March Madness style? 3 or 4 weekends in December where revenues and ratings would blow March out of the water and we would have some real sportsmanship and fair play that the NCAA professes to believe in instead of the bull we currently have. Split the revenues between the conferences involved without any automatic berths, just have it based on records and rankings and then play the games. I wonder how the NCAA ratings compare to all the meaningless bowl games? We need a real champion, thanks to the Senator for looking at it, now please do something!

  • Brad
    March 21, 2010 12:52 p.m.

    To MWC Fan: Several problems with the BCS as I see it. First and foremost they crown a so-called champion without a playoff. Look at March Madness...No. 1 overall Kansas going down to a 9 seed, Northern Iowa...according to the BCS, Northern Iowa wouldn't have been worthy to hand them towels let alone play Kansas, and they couldn't possibly have beaten them. College basketball should just quit already with this tournament thing and let the worthy schools from "power conferences" have a little mini fake tourney with a few big games between conference winners and one "Championship" between the overall No.1 and No.2, Kansas and Kentucky. Split up all the advertising and sponsorship dollars between the privileged conferences because we all watch March Madness just to see the big schools anyways. Then we would all have a real champion and the kids wouldn't have to worry about missing too much school and the fans and schools wouldn't have to worry about travel costs. No flaw in this logic at all. Except that Kansas lost, oops. Continued in another post.

  • Excellent
    March 21, 2010 12:25 p.m.

    Thank you Senator. Excellent op-ed. Now let's take those bad boys down.

  • So Stop Talking About it. . .
    March 21, 2010 10:57 a.m.

    and do something about it. Every few months we hear about how Senator Hatch is looking into it or holding information-gathering hearings about it, but nothing is ever done about it.

    Talk's cheap. Stop blathering on about it if you're not going to follow through and force some change.

  • Anonymous
    March 21, 2010 10:38 a.m.

    BCS=Utah Legislature

  • Taxation and School Sports
    March 21, 2010 9:35 a.m.

    So long as any taxpayer money and direct or indirect government involvement in college football continues then there will be more or less contentions such as this.

    There will also be politicians seeking popularity by joining in the fray in order to be popular instead of embracing the fundamental issues of freedom and small government.

  • uncannygunman
    March 21, 2010 8:51 a.m.

    Boy, if Orrin is mad at the way the BCS treats Utah schools, wait until he finds out about the Utah Legislature!

  • College Sports Fan
    March 21, 2010 5:51 a.m.

    gettem Hatch... we need a champion in our battle with the BCS.

  • Steve
    March 21, 2010 4:52 a.m.

    Congress has lots of problems, but at least we elect the people in congress so we have to at least partially blame ourselves for their failures.

    College football fans did not create the BCS. If a college football fan vote had ever created the BCS it would have made corrections with subsequent votes.

  • MWC Fan
    March 21, 2010 2:08 a.m.

    There is only one problem with this argument. The other conferences bring in huge advertisement revenue. The smaller conferences do not. Utah is a small market and will never generate the kind of money that Florida or Ohio State does. Therefore they don’t deserve anymore compensation than they already receive. The truth is the rest of the country does not care about the WAC or MWC, being a Utah fan and living outside of Utah it is almost impossible to catch a game unless they are playing another big name school. So we need to stop crying, keep fielding quality teams and be the giant killers that we love to be. The BCS is not a fair system but then again life isn’t fair either so get used to it.

  • Giulianna
    March 21, 2010 12:20 a.m.

    Keep up the good work my brotha