Utah Jazz notebook: Jazz brass planning to talk to Carlos Boozer's agent

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  • SC Jazz Fan
    March 17, 2010 8:08 a.m.

    The Jazz will go through the formality of an offer, but Boozer will not be back. The Jazz are not going to pay the luxury tax again after this year. Yes the Jazz will be a bit worse without Boozer--when you lose any player that is in the rotation you get worse. The Jazz cannot afford Boozer or Bosh. I would guess that the Jazz will try to package the NY pick, the Brewer-trade pick and their own late 1st roung pick and move up in the draft like they did in 2005 to get DWill (unless the ping pong balls are very lucky already). Sloan seems to like Korver and I would guess they will try hard to re-sign him. Perhaps add a mid-level exemption guy and that will be the summer. Fes does not seem to be the answer--Sloan has been giving him some time and all he can manage is fouls and missed free-throws. I guess if you have to fill a roster spot you can keep hoping, but he does not look promising to be an NBA rotation player.

  • Let Booze go...
    March 16, 2010 11:18 p.m.

    we can do just as well without him by making some adjustments. Some like to watch him...I do not. He angers me when he fails to defend, allowing points to opponents to offset his own. His job is to play both sides of the court, not just one. Let him go.

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2010 11:00 p.m.

    We have no idea what the new CBA will look like. But the reason that the max salary will go down is because it is based on a percentage of the salary cap, and the salary cap is going down. That will affect everyone on the max. I haven't heard any suggestions that the difference in the maximum for short timers and long timers will disappear, though it could happen. DWill and Chris Paul both took a risk that the new CBA would preserve that difference. Maybe they will be wrong. Maybe that is why DWill is now trying to justify signing a contract that may actually end up paying him less. But at the time he signed it, he was seeking to maximize his income, even if in the end his gamble doesn't pay off.

  • A few moves . . .
    March 16, 2010 10:43 p.m.

    and Utah is a contender. There is no realistic equivalent for Boozer. If he'll stay, keep him. I don't think we need Millsap if Booz signs after this season. Also, I hope we can upgrade for CJ. Shooting guard is a real inconsistency for the Jazz. We don't need a better point guard: Boozer is a very good power forward: Okur is one of the better centers: AK was playing well, he's an above average forward. If we could get a very good shooting guard and some confidence, the Jazz would have a chance against anyone. LA has faltered since the break, they are not invulnerable. Avoiding injuries and making a few changes could be all we need. The Jazz management/owners will have to make their decisions this summer: I hope they land a surprise and let a few players go. Cross your fingers and GO JAZZ!!!

  • BigJazzFan
    March 16, 2010 10:36 p.m.

    signing Boozer guarantees the jazz go will nowhere.

    Booozer has been here several years,

    exactly where have jazz gone?

    but OUT of playoffs in the first round.

    the only time the jazz got to the conference finals was by PURE luck,

    (golden state beating the mavs)

    PLEASE do not resign him!

    (his character alone should be enough reason)

  • Rob
    March 16, 2010 9:37 p.m.

    Let him go. He's just playing good this year to get a raise.

  • Re 8:36
    March 16, 2010 9:13 p.m.

    Everything being said about the new CBA implies that player salaries are going to take a big hit. Why do you think all the players who are able are opting out of their contracts (with LeBron leading the class).
    Player salaries will be going down, contracts will be getting shorter, and less money will be guaranteed.
    DWill will probably never get paid more than the 2012-13 season.

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2010 8:36 p.m.

    Maybe that is why Dwill signed for three years. But by signing for three years, he maximized his pay too. If the new CBA is the same as the current one, three years from now, he can sign a new maximum contract at a higher level than he would get by signing for 5 years. The max is not a fixed number, it is higher if you have been in the league for longer. Not that I mind, we all maximize our pay, but the more of the cap that goes to him, the less there is to go to other players.

  • NGB
    March 16, 2010 7:33 p.m.

    about all these money post on Dwill, of course he still wants to get paid, there's no reason he shouldn't get paid for the skill he brings to a team. I'm saying it's apparent that he wants to win and doesn't mind sacrificing his Bird rights to go play somewhere else that will win. Look at Lebron, he is contemplating taking a hit in money, regardless of whether its still a max contract or not, to win a championship. Cleveland can offer him the most money, the reason he is not decided on whether he'll stay or not isn't the money obviously, it's winning.

    The logic on athletes and how long the play is a dumb side note, of course the average player only plays that long, dwill isn't average, hence the Max contract, so don't be ignorant there. Dwill will get paid, utah can offer the most, but he said in the interview, "THAT'S WHY I ONLY SIGNED 3 YEARS" it's strange to me how people don't understand this concept, it's my 18 year old brother gets it, post 2:16 you can too

  • Good Sense
    March 16, 2010 7:28 p.m.

    The Jazz need to resign Korver to keep that outside threat alive. Matthews just isn't the answer! Korver is a team player and knows the game inside and out. He passes to the open man instead of always looking to glorify his name like Matthews does. Korver is by far the best pure shooter the Jazz have...If Korver had plays run for him he would outscore all of them.

  • July 1st
    March 16, 2010 6:58 p.m.

    The Jazz can only make an offer; Booz is good as gone July 1st. The only way he'd re-sign with the Jazz is if they are the higgest bidder.

  • re: Rick
    March 16, 2010 5:43 p.m.

    Amare is better at every aspect of the game? What about rebounding? Amare averages 6 defensive rebounds a game, Boozer, 9. Boozer is sharing rebounds with AK, Okur, and Milsap. Who's Amare sharing rebounds with? Channing Fry? Please. Amare should be averaging 15 rebounds a game with the pace the Suns play. The Suns opponents take 9 more shots a game, yet Booze gets more boards.

    Have you actually watched Amare play D? Boozer's D may not be great, but you can't argue it's worse than Amare's. Most of Amare's D comes from the weak side, which he wouldn't be able to do paired with AK (who lives for weak side D).

    Amare relies too much on raw athleticism which will quickly fade as he gets older. Boozer actually has offensive moves and a jump shot.

    How often do you see Amare actually PASS the ball once he touches it? Amare gets 1 assist per game. ONE! Once he gets the ball the rest of his team can assume their turn on offense is over. Boozer actually knows how to pass.

    Both have injury history.

    I'll take Boozer.

  • louisiana jazz man
    March 16, 2010 5:05 p.m.

    boz is highly entertaining to watch. no way i would gambel on him for a long tearm contract tho and thats what it will take. i think millsap will be fine. played great when boz was out last year and this year. dont know what the problem is some reason it dosent look like he is trying the reast of the time. dont belive he is very happy in utah for some reason,, maby he is trying to get traded.

  • Champs don't need a PF
    March 16, 2010 3:56 p.m.

    The Jazz and many of it's fans are so set on having an All-Star PF to succeed yet don't realize how many Championship teams have won without one. How many All-Star PF did Chicago have? How many did the Lakers have? How many did Houston have?

    It's not DWills max contract that is putting the crunch on payroll, it's AK's deal! AK is not a max player yet we are paying him 16mil when he's worth closer to half that! If AK reworked his deal so Booz could stay, that might work. But I believe we are better if we trade Booz for a Bogut and moved Okur to the 4 spot. If Booz doesn't get enough touches, his offense is not enough to overcome his liability on defense. At least Milsap and Okur contribute without scoring. I'd also like to get Maynor back and work a deal for Hansbrough...aka Harpring Jr!

    Karl Malone's biggest offensive weapon was his 15 attempts from the FT. That's why Boozs' no-contact style will keep him a 20/10 player instead of 30/10!

  • Re:diehard
    March 16, 2010 3:27 p.m.

    I will agree with you that Bosh could be the answer the Jazz are looking for and that he would more than likely thrive in Sloan's system, more so than Boozer. But I think the question is not whether the Jazz should do everything in their power to get him. I think the real question is would Bosh actually want to play here,considering that the top free agents aren't waiting in line to sing in Utah, I think Boozer is the best we can get.

  • re@ngb
    March 16, 2010 3:16 p.m.

    Hello? Did you ever really think it wasn't about the money..
    Sadly 97% of professional athletes are broke within 5 years of retiring.
    And to think we sacrafice our hard earned money to watch these guy's?
    And or pay the wealthy team owners.
    Does anyone else wonder if all of us as fans are missing something supporting these players and elitest owners????
    Tha greatest players in all sports were the ones who played before the money got outta hand.

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2010 3:11 p.m.

    I don't get why Jazz fans think boozer only plays well in contract years. How about the 2 years before last season when he averaged 20-10 both years. Dude is a beast and plays his heart out when he's healthy. Utah is a top-5 NBA team with him, w/o him the Jazz are a 7-8 seed and will be one and done in the playoffs. Jazz need to build around the dynamic duo of Boozer and Williams!!!

  • Miles
    March 16, 2010 3:03 p.m.

    How many championships does Dallas have? Zero

    Only four teams every year make it to the Conference Finals. It is not that easy to do. Dirk is not going to win a title. Dallas is no better than the Jazz most years. Williams is in a perfect system for him to play in. He isn't going to leave.

    For all you CJ haters. Weren't you the ones that wanted the Jazz to sign Morris Peterson a few years ago to 8 million a year? Are you going to tell me Morris is better than CJ?

  • @NGB
    March 16, 2010 2:36 p.m.

    If Deron is all about winning and not about money, why don't you explain to all of us why he signed a MAX contract? Didn't this MAX contract hinder the Jazz ability to sign better players? Doesn't the lack of good players DECREASE the chance of winning? Please explain your logic, because it seems to me that he is ALL ABOUT MONEY, not winning.

  • akk
    March 16, 2010 2:31 p.m.

    Let Boozer go. Find away to get a center that has size and defensive presence to back up Okur (I think Fez and Koufas can do it but not if Sloan won't play them). And get a scorer at the 2. Kirlinko and Okur can play the four behind Milsap. Kirlinko and Miles the 3. New player and Matthews the 2. Like Gaines more than Price but can keep both since we like to carry three point gaurds. Rather have Korver than Miles but we are stuck with Miles for another year. If we could keep Korver at lower price that would be great with me.

  • Pass to Boozer
    March 16, 2010 2:28 p.m.

    All I have to say is every player on the Jazz team are trained to pass the ball into Boozer! His team mates make him look darn good! Now where else is he going to go where his team mates buy into that role! Pass to Boozer so he can get the basket and the glory! Matthews is one of the few team mates that looks to the basket first because he is looking for his own glory!

  • jazzman72
    March 16, 2010 2:21 p.m.

    The Jazz should do all they can to keep Boozer. Millsap, Okur and Miles are the odd men out. Trade them for cap space, and draft a good, defensive-minded center with the Knicks' pick. Let Korver and Price walk, and resign Matthews and Gaines.

  • Sokol
    March 16, 2010 2:09 p.m.

    Anyone who thinks that Milsap is better than Boozer is smoking some of that wacky weed?

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2010 1:39 p.m.

    It is really very simple: Boozer has been outstanding when healthy. I guess a reasonable argument can be made that he is injury prone, but he plays hard and plays very well when he isn't hurt. Millsap had a great short stretch last year when Boozer was out, but otherwise has been pretty inconsistent. Collison in New Orleans had had a great short stretch. Should New Orleans trade Chris Paul, who may be injury prone, and just go with Collison? Same situation.

  • Random
    March 16, 2010 1:36 p.m.

    I still think that a Millsap/AK combo at the 4 is going to be just as servicable as Boozer. Where the Jazz need quality is at the 3. I would love to see a sign and trade with Boozer for someone like Gerald Wallace or Corey Maggette. Although CJ shows flashes, his consistency isn't there (although I am loving the assists/steals/rebounds that he is putting on his stat line recently... He seems to be understanding more of full game), and he just seems too shoot far too often for my taste. I don't see Boozer as a fit for the Jazz long-term and agree that he is bringing it because of the contract year. A solid 3 and I think the Jazz are still in the hunt even without Boozer.

  • NGB
    March 16, 2010 1:24 p.m.

    @miles, I understand that we win the regular season, but there have been talks of him wanting to go back to his home town, Dallas and play. You don't think they have a better team down there? they have similar pieces and with williams they could be amazing and they are willing to spend the money to be a championship contender plus it's a bigger market for him. He does win, but he got a taste early at the W.C.finals and the team has slid ever since. He wants to be with a team that can be a legit contender every year, like San Antonio or dallas. He could go to a team that would be willing to put the pieces around him or that have those pieces around him. He said it himself Miles, "that's why i only signed a 3 year deal" he wants to contend and I honestly feel like he's worried in the upcoming years that they wont compete

  • Miles
    March 16, 2010 12:49 p.m.

    How can you say the Williams is not winning? The Jazz have been as better than 90% of the teams out there. Leaving doesn't gaurantee that you will win a championship. Karl Malone left and did he get a ring? The Jazz are one of the winningest organizations in the NBA. True they don't have championship, but only one team wins every year. There are lots fo them who don't.

  • GoodGuyGary
    March 16, 2010 12:33 p.m.

    The reality is, the Jazz won't be able to keep him unless they trade AK, DWill, Okur, or Millsap. Boozer is doing good, only in his contract year. I think we can get by without him. Many people think Brewer should not be traded, but the fact is, traing Brewer makes others better (Matthews, Korver, and AK). I bet if we let Boozer go, Okur, Millsap and AK will have more play time and will step up. Don't forget we will have a lottery pick as well. If I am running Jazz as a business, I will not resign Boozer.

  • NGB 2
    March 16, 2010 12:04 p.m.

    So if we lose boozer and draft a decent back up to millsap, we might not be the best next year, but it would give us time to develop Fes and the newbie. Matthews will be better by then and hopefully CJ will pull his head out by then as well. With the new york pick, if we get someone that's good now like Wesley Johnson from 'Cuse or Greg Monroe from georgetown, that might motivate Williams to stay, that's my only issue with booz leaving is Williams is starting to get anxious about not winning and a lot of big market teams want him. He's more about winning not about the money, so I could see him walking if we don't get some players around him. next year is key, we lose ak at the end of the season unless he decides to take less money, so we need some young fresh talent that are already decent players, not any of the "great upside" players we've been getting lately. We need people like matthews that will step up and contribute now and get better as they go.

  • NGB
    March 16, 2010 11:58 a.m.

    I do think we need boozer for a championship, we also need a couple of other tools as well. Korver is one of them, a pure shooter is always a necessity. Dwill does what he does, but it's memo and ak that need to step up to bring the championship home, memo has stepped up lately, but ak is doing that drive to the basket to get fouled thing and he is not finishing like he was when we were on fire and that is why he's not getting the ball as much, he needs to bring the pain with those strong finishes like he was before the back injury.

    I think you all are discounting millsap tho, he needs a chance to play and he can be great. he's improved so much from last year and though he's in a rough patch, he continues to work against guys that are 3 to 4 inches taller than him. Boozer left cleveland for a shot and look what happened, i think millsap needs a shot too, double double machine when booz was out last year, he became the 2nd option and it worked out

  • Sokol
    March 16, 2010 11:39 a.m.

    In my opinion, Boozer would lose the best point guard companion in the NBA...He fits well into the Jazz system and Boozer could possible be the best power forward in the NBA....Sloan loves this guy.I think it is smart for all concerned for Boozer to stay.

  • Re:Boozer is:
    March 16, 2010 11:18 a.m.

    If everyone can look past last year, remember Boozer was an all star putting up 20 and 10. Yes, he was worthless last year but he was injured. Millsap is good but not a go to guy. The Jazz are much better with Boozer.

  • Boozer and Milsap
    March 16, 2010 11:16 a.m.

    I would keep Boozer and trade Milsap if the Jazz can get a decent player in the draft. I guess the question would be if another team would be willing to pick up Milsaps contract. I like Milsap, but he is just a good journeyman type player. Compare the number of player of the week awards between the two. Boozer is an outstanding scorer and rebounder and bad defensively. Milsap is just an average scorer and defender, but is popular because of his great attitude. Boozer also seems to get along with Sloan. I also think the Jazz need to keep Boozer if they want to keep Deron Williams.

  • die hard
    March 16, 2010 11:10 a.m.

    The Jazz are not in a financial position to gamble on Boozer. A big contract for him almost guarantees a no show till the last lear of the contract, And he has proven that twice. 65% of his games on the current deal should tell someone what to expect on the next contract. He is crazy if he leaves by the way since the Jazz system is built for him.
    I actually think he is a pretty great scorer and rebounder but he is the guy other teams always go at when they need a basket, POOR D!

    Bosh is the answer at what ever price they have to pay and he will be a ALLSTAR in Jerry's system every year. Count on it..

  • Amare
    March 16, 2010 10:56 a.m.

    will be in New York with his old ball coach and another All Star. No! I don't mean McGrady!

  • Amare
    March 16, 2010 10:51 a.m.

    I suppose those of you who think Amare Stoudamire would ever come to Utah also think BYU can beat Florida on Thursday - am I right? You guys and your pipe dreams.

  • rick
    March 16, 2010 10:26 a.m.

    BOOZER is: comment is 100% correct..Boozer gets only a few blocks a year, bad at free throws & has no game down low against bigger defender & shoots 15' fade away...You don't want your PF having a game like that.He has slow foot work & Amare ate him up last game in the Valley..There is absolutely no comparison btw. Booz & Amare as an earlier blogger said Booz is better ?? Amare beats him at ALL phases of the game; EVERY single facet !!!Plus Amare has tuffness & speed which you can't teach..I can't believe KOC is serious about re-signing Boozer.Boozer HATES contact & that's a MUST in the NBA.Amare would be that tuff presence in the middle until Fes or GREG MONROE (hopefully JAZZ 1st round pick this year)develope..The Jazz should look into a sign & trade with Suns & swap P.F.'s & Utah would become that much better..Again, there is no comparison btw. Amare/Booz; Amare wins hands down at all levels of the game !!!!! Amare wants alot of money for a few years, not sure Mr. Miller wants to spend that cash in these bad economic times ???

  • PurplePeopleEater
    March 16, 2010 10:16 a.m.

    I don't see any future prospect on the horizon---draft or otherwise---that could replace Boozer. So, I see value in an effort to keep him.

    Boozer's a team player who just wants to get the best deal he can on any team that might be able to win a championship with him on it. I don't fault him for wanting out of Utah after last year.

    I hope they keep Koufos in the D-League the rest of the year. This kid just needs playing time to get confidence and work on his weaknesses. He came out of college too soon. Let Fes grow each time they need a big to sub.

  • BT
    March 16, 2010 10:15 a.m.

    Bring him back. Jazz are one player away from being the best team in the NBA...

  • Don't forget
    March 16, 2010 10:14 a.m.

    Milsap was killing it in the category of double doubles while Boozer was out. Milsap is not playing well because Boozer is back and there must be some bad blood there or something. I agree with the comments made by "Boozer is". Lete him go.

  • Boozer is
    March 16, 2010 9:21 a.m.

    as Boozer does. Give him a long term contract and he takes all but the last year off. Look at him this year. A contract year and he's on fire. He gets hurt but comes back sooner. Give him a one year deal and he'll play like a wild man. Give him a multiyear and you can forget about him showing up until the last year. Boozer is as Boozer does!!

  • Uh
    March 16, 2010 8:49 a.m.

    Millsap is not cheap. Portland raised the ante and the Jazz met it. I agree that without Boozer, bo playoffs. Since it is free agency, not likely to get anyone half as good. He seems to have settleed down in terms of his desire to go elesewhere. Keep him.

  • Keep Boozer!
    March 16, 2010 8:42 a.m.

    I love his strong, powerful presence in the paint (particularly on the offensive end). I'd like to see the Jazz find a long, athletic interior defender. I guess every team wants that type of guy.

  • Doug
    March 16, 2010 8:40 a.m.

    Boozer is an animal this zoo can't do without.

    Boozer still loves this game, loves to win and is a fan favorite because when it comes to the end of a game he has ice water in his veins. Is willing to take the shot and most of the time makes them.

    He also knows the Dwill makes him look good and if they can talk KOC into one more great draft pick or spending some more dollars they can attract one more really good player then the JAzz compete with the Lakers.

    Millsap is no comparison to Boozer. As of late he stands around gets 6-10 points and his 6 fouls and sits down. The Jazz need the Boozer scoring rebounding machine.

  • Be Careful-Be Careful
    March 16, 2010 8:40 a.m.

    I prefer not to resign this primma-donna but if you do and think you have to management, make sure you sign him to a tradeable contract. Leopards don't shed their spots, and this guy has shown a side to him 2 times here and in Cleveland that repulses fans and other teams managers. A sign and trade in my mind would be best.

  • mulrich
    March 16, 2010 8:35 a.m.

    I'm fine with Boozer going elsewhere if that means we get an equivalent player in return.
    Unfortunately, there are only two other all-star quality PF in the league who will be free agents this year: Bosh and Amare. Neither of these players will play for the Jazz, and I'd rather have Boozer over Amare any day.

    Without Boozer we'd be lucky to make the playoffs. DWill and Boozer should be our foundation.

    Lets hope last night starts another big win streak to get us 2nd in the west.

  • Jazz Cop
    March 16, 2010 7:42 a.m.

    Boozer isn't superhuman like malone, but he's pretty good and it would be cool to see his jersey hanging in the rafters, for sure. Besides, the jazz don't have a chance with out him. I think the jazz might be able to clear some space through trades over the summer, its possible, and be able to sign boozer and stay under the cap. AK is coming into the last year of his millstone and chain contract. With ak now, Ak could be used better, he needs to touch the ball more on offense, he's a good passer and he can shoot or drive with a little space. Dwills assist numbers go down when he passes to ak, so thats probably why he freezes out ak, it's probably about 2 to 3 assists a night that ak takes away from dwill. however, dwills job is so much easier that way, and ak makes dwill more effective that way, and not like this dwill now, who's injured and always griping at the officials. still, the jazz can contend without ak, without boozer though, this team isn't contending, like anonymous said.

  • Matt
    March 16, 2010 7:42 a.m.

    Bring him back!!!!

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2010 7:00 a.m.

    No, no. Boozer needs to go. Let him go.

  • Anonymous
    March 16, 2010 1:15 a.m.

    I'd love to see Boozer spend the rest of his career in Utah. With Boozer, DWill, and a decent supporting cast, Jazz have a shot every year. But I can't help but think that the front office will put salary cap considerations first. Easiest way to get under the cap is to let Boozer and Korver go, leaving the Jazz with the cheaper Millsap and CJ Miles to replace them. I doubt that is a contending team.