WHO do they think they are? Did you know that Socialized Health care bill
doesn't effect them??? They can still have their own medical policies! If it is
good enough for US, BY GOLLY IT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM!!! Now it is time for a
revolution! Impeach Obama & arrest every house & senate member that voted for
this bill because it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! They have FAILED this country & have
lied & not honored the oath in which they took when they were put in office. It
is time to clean the HOUSE & SENATE! We have 8 months to carefully watch &
choose who we want to represent us in November & we need to have new
representatives that will LISTEN to us!! Citizens of America UNITE!!
So, 33 other states -- or a full 2/3 of the states -- are pushing back against
the Feds. To all the left-wing states' rights haters that think
Utah's "statement bills" are a waste of time and money...it should be clear that
Utah is not alone or in the minority on this. Looks like were in the super
majority on this one. Since 2/3 of the states are trying to "opt
out", it should be quite obvious there's another agenda at play here with
Obamacare -- cradle to grave control over you and your health.
I never signed up for social security, but I still see it taking large amounts
of money out of my paycheck. How do I get them to stop that? Will you do it
These wingnuts either aren't honest enough to serve in public office, or they're
not bright enough. They all take an oath to support & defend the
Constitution of the US. They obviously don't mean it -- or they're
to dumb to care. Sheesh--
7:43-"When was the last time you tried to opt out of a Federal program like
Social Security." Piece of cake. Just don't sign up. Even Part A (the one you get for "free" if you do sign up) won't apply
to you. Not to mention the optional Parts B, C, and D. The other way to opt out of SS -- completely! -- is to work less than 10 years
during your lifetime. "Red -- answering ridiculously easy questions"
I think the word that is causing all of your emotional problems is the word
"when."Replace "when" with "if" and you'll see that a large majority
of people can handle their debts just fine. It is admirable that this person
would be willing to burden his future before he is willing to burden others'.
And when you default on all these debts you're willing to take on, where does
that leave me and the other taxpayers? I'm sorry, but that's just hypocritical.
YOU are a bigger part of the problem here than anything Obama has put on the
I would rather be swimming in debt, and getting the medical care I need/want
than paying more taxes on care that I may NEVER get!!!!!! What happened to the
days where it was embarrassing to ask for government help?? That was the
incentive to treat it as a hand-up rather than a hand-out. You were ashamed to
need it, and therefore busted your butt to get off it!! I don't mean to sound
like an uncaring jerk, but too many people CHOOSE not to carry their fair share
of the burden. Now, our country is swimming in entitlement programs that are
going bankrupt, and the government has enabled and created multiple generations
of dependents, doing nothing but waiting on their government checks. The people
who really need help can't get it because we are too busy supporting illegals,
and those who think they are "owed" something. Odds are, your own choices put
you where you are, and only different choices will change your situation. Now go
and be a part of the solution, and not a part of the problem. Thank You!
I hear you. I personally know many who have no insurance because they can not
afford it. If something bad happens, they'll be in the same boat.I'm
not for national social programs - too much consolidated power and too much
inefficiency. That said, I'm undecided about state-sponsored social programs.
Perhaps at a more local level things could be better managed?I think
part of the problem hails back to people wanting the president to solve all
their problems - small gov't and big gov't supporters alike. I'm sick of
presidential questions of "there's this situation happening and what are you
going to do about it?" Sometimes advocates of small gov't don't see where they
subtly support big gov't.
Im all for Obamacare, however, after visiting the post office and even the DMV,
i can only imagine how a government run insurance would be.
I work at the U hospital and this week in acute surgical sevices 13 of 20
patient' had no insurance. of the one's that did three of them are meicaid and 3
private. who do youthink pay's for them? the hospital does. prices will go up
less money for emmploees never upper admin. the answer may not be what the
presidents doing but the other side is only padding the riches pockets. maybe
layoffs. who is being helped by doing nothing while 2 endless wars go on started
by the same bush crowd that wants to do nothig.
War good, health insurance bad. I find it amazing so many Americans think this
you said:"Yup. Let the corporations continue to gut America. Do
nothing. Good luck"Another clueless sheep who clearly has no idea
what they are talking about.BIG INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL BE GIVEN
336 BILLION OVER THE NEXT TEN YEAR IF OBAMACARE PASSES!!Thats right.
Your community organizer is in bed with BIG PHARMA and BIG INSURANCE who stand
to make 100's of BILLIONS MORE than if they bill does not pass!!FOOL!!This legislation MANDATES that you and EVERY AMERICAN lose
control and choice over your income and you will be FORCED to purchase health
insurance from BIG INSURANCE CORPORATIONS!!!Ya that solves the
problem of big corporations gutting America.Duh!!!
I can agree on only a few points. First, there are a lot of people who don't
have healthcare, or who have substandard healthcare. Secondly, insurance
companies are in the business to make a profit. They are investment companies
and the less they pay out in claims, the greater the profits to their
shareholders. Is it "fair" that some people don't have healthcare or
substandard coverage? Is it "fair" that insurance companies should be able to
make huge profits? Perhaps the answer is NO to all of these questions. But,
life never is "fair" and equitable to all; nor, should it be!This
much I know, it is not the government's responsibility or right (state or
federal) to dictate to me what I will and will not do regarding my healthcare
decisions. It is not their responsibility to "take care of me". We live more
and more in a time when all people want is a free ride.Let's provide
through our taxes, care for those who are "unable" to care for themselves.
"Unable is the operative word here. Any and everyone who is able to provide for
himself, should be made to do so.
Heaven forbid we try to solve our own problems.
Do the posters above realize that VA stands for Virginia, not the VA hospital?
I think I would call that an epic fail.
It is simple. We can make adjustments, impose more regulations and take care of
the poor and needy without a complete rehaul of everyone's health care.But
we are talking about over 300 million people. This is not about
compassion, it is about an ideogical power grab.
To those of your arguing about the "VA" In the article--which you
clearly didn't read--VA stands for "Virgina"
The Utah Legislature usually chooses the path that takes us through the 10th
District Court in Denver and a GREAT waste of Utah tax dollars.I'd
be fine with their choice in this case IF they had a plan for health care
reform. But they do not. They have nothing. If they'd take half the effort
they put into posturing against the Federal government, and put that effort into
reform, they could produce a model for the nation.But no... they
choose "do nothing".
Mr. HamiltonHere is my experience during the years I lived in Canada:1. Neighbor died because he had to wait two months for heart surgery.2.
Visited Edmonton Hospital many times where it was necessary to have to squeeze
around the emergency patients laying on gurneys in the hallways due to
insufficient government paid staff to help them.3. Doctors appointments
were weeks away because no one wants to be a overworked, underpaid doctor in
Canada. With all due respect to you and our friends in Canada, thousands
of whom come to the U.S. for immediate and qualified health care, please don't
compare our health care to the government mess created in Canada's Health care.
Dear Mr. Hamilton of Canada,I lived in Canada for several years. The man
in the apartment next to mine died because the Hospital couldn't deal with his
heart condition for two months due to the huge overload of patients. I visited
that Hospital in Edmonton where I had to squeeze past dozens of patients laying
on gurneys in the hallways because the Hospital was overloaded. The doctors are
few and far between. Many qualified persons choose other ocupations due to the
poor wages in the Medical profession. Please do not try to justify Canada's
socialized, government supported medical care by telling us what a wonderful
system it is. Thousands of Canadians come here each year to receive immediate
and qualified care. With all due respect for you and our many great friends in
Canada, pull your head out of the sand.
Can I really refuse to pay my medicare taxes and not go to prison?? I would do
it in a second. Are you just joking, 8:23am, or do you really know a way to
legally do this?
Do any of you Obamacare supporters REALLY think the govt. will solve your
problems? Private corporations sure haven't.
Do any of you Obamacare supporters REALLY think the govt. will solve your
problems? I can't believe you do, unless you've not lived in this country long
enough to know better.
I am happy I live in Canada. We are blessed to have a public health care system.
It is not perfect and can be improved upon, but it has served me and others I
know well. Health care should not be under big business control. Governments
have an important role when it comes to heath care- to make sure everyone is
covered and gets the best care.
At least with a private corporation I can appeal a bad decision through the
legal system. Under Obmacare the governement controls both the process and the
appeal I'll take my chances with a corporation
...but Veterans Benifitis are PAID for by the federal goverment. And the
VA is against goverment funding for healthcare to the...general public? Epic fail.
Follow the Bouncing Ball... The main purpose of this anti-Obamacare bill
is to send a message to Congress and the President that this health care bill is
not wanted. Polls giving Obamacare very low approval have been ignored by the
Democratic leadership in the Congress and White House. Recdently lost elections
by Democrats have been ignored (Virginia, New Jersey, and Mass.). This is
another attempt to deliver a message to apparently deaf ears.By the
way, NO government gives us anything that they have not ALREADY taken from us.
There is NO tooth fairy. Government spending, especially on the Federal level,
is taking money from the private sector. This is why we are still in a
recession. As long as they keep this up unemployment will remain high. High
unemployment is not an act of kindness, especially to the unemployed. This is a
classic example of the law of unintended economic consequences. It unmasks the
basic "unkindness" of the big spending democrats towards working people. Their
ultimate game plan is power over others.
You can opt out of Social Security, just don't pay your SS taxes. And when you
retire don't ask for a penny. You can opt out of medicare too, don't pay your
taxes, and when you are 78 years old and need a new colon put in you can pay
your health insurance to cover you. I bet they may tell you you they won't cover
your sorry colon. I'm sure you are one of those people that will pay
all the taxes in the world as long as it goes to defense. But for anything else
your purse is empty.
Who are these states going to impress with their legislation?Many years ago some states thought they knew better than the fed. If every
state wanted to revolt how would that benefit the country?Utah by
letting over 2000 people go bankrupt due to healthcare expenses last year has
proven they cannot take care of their own despite saying they do take care of
their own.Instead of taking steps to fix the problems (40% waste in
current healthcare system, broken homes and families, jobs and homes lost) Utah
spends countless hours showing the country how legally opposed they are to
somebody else fixing their problems.In elementary school you learned
to put up your hand if you don't know the answer, perhaps the lawmakers in this
state should return to elemenatary school.
But...VA IS goverment healthcare. Duh.
Thank you for enlightening us, oh great and wise sensei.
At least with corporations we have a choice. We can opt out of their plans. When
was the last time you tried to opt out of a Federal program like Social
Let's pretend for a moment that some states pass this silly legislation. Done
deal. Applause. Yippee.Fed. leg. passes and if the states don't
want the money for their people, they don't get it. The other states take the
money and provide health care, etc., for their people.Hmmmmmmmm.
Let's see what will happen next... ok, class... my prediction is that... states
will rediscover how to get money from the fed. govt. to pay insurance bills that
the state's citizens have to pay. And they will rail against the feds, rail
against the communism, rail against big brother, rail against bureaucrats, rail
against...and then sneakily pass leg. undoing the idiotic things
they are doing now. Vote will probably be in middle of the night, somewhere in
2011 or early 2012. Stupid states will continue to lose out on the fed. help
until 2014, Utah being among them.And that is how it is going to go.
Do nothing. Let the corporations gut the system. Good luck.
Yup. Let the corporations continue to gut America. Do nothing. Good luck.
"Utah and 33 other state legislatures have either passed, filed or proposed
similar measures – statutes or constitutional amendments – rejecting
health insurance mandates".It is so blatantly obvious by the huge
support against ObamaCare, that it must be defeated! The fact that a large
number of Democrats are also against it, speaks volumes.If there was
a law requiring that congress have the same coverage as the people, wouldn't
that be interesting - you can bet that the plan before us would be much
different, and all of congress would insist that they be given the opportunity
to read it BEFORE voting on it.When Pelosi told the people that
they'd like ObamaCare and that they should support it, she couldn't even repsond
to questions posed to her, because she said she hadn't even read it. And
California voted her in? You can't fix STUPID, but you can sure as heck vote it
to take care of ourselves, eat plain and raw foods, and supplement with
vitamins, herbs, and minerals. We can avoid much cancer and degerative desease
by taking control of our own health. We must also open the practice of health
care to other trained and qualified people other than those who control our
medicine, the ACS, AMA, the FDA, Big Pharma, etc.We need to fight to open
up the field to others who bring no harm, and do much good. And, they should
quit calling their competition, "quacks", while they sit on Pride Rock. I find
using the internet and reading up on things helps me treat myself and save a lot
of money. Diet is a huge factor in health care and fighting cancer and other