Aggies still out of Top 25
That's some flawed logic. Why don't you give credit where credit is due? You
give Cornell credit for only losing by 15 over two top 10 teams? How about
giving BYU credit, using the same logic, for losing by 4 and 2 points
respectively to a top-10 team? How about credit for beating a top-25 team, on
the road, even without Fredette, their leading scorer? How about crushing pretty
much every team that they were supposed to beat this year? Their 4 losses are
all against teams that are predicted to go the NCAA tournery. They have also
beat 5 teams that are predicted to go to the tourney. Does Cornell have that
good a resume? Cornell has not beat one team in the top-50 RPI. They've lost to
two other teams outside the top-50 and their best win was against #78 St. Johns
(they've only played 7 teams in the top-100). Their resume also includes a 15
point loss to #304 Penn. So how exactly will BYU lose if they play Cornell in
the first round? BYU would win by 20!
The league requirement to have the Utes on our schedule just pulls us down.
Would you please just take Boilin' and your Circus to the PAC-10 and become the
anchor in their conference already? We're getting pretty tired of you messing up
Your rants prove nothing.
i cant really tell scarism through boards so i hope your not being serious, How
about Over-rated byu is good but #14 who have they beaten to be considered the
14th best team in the country... and as far as being the best team west of the
Mississippi have you ever heard of kansas their only considered the best team in
the country but yeah byu would blow them out, same goes for kansas st, gonzaga,
st marys, and if unm makes it to the confrence championship the y will prove
that unm beating them twice was a fluke
Cornell resume27-4Loss to Syracuse (away) by 15 Loss to (1) Kansas (away) by 15RPI 48At least they
played two top 10 teams respectable on the road!BYU has played and
lost to New Mexico twice and beat UTEP on the road. Whipee- like BYU
has extensive NCAA tourney experience! McEnroe- Are you kidding me!
On top of correctly predicting 64 of the 65 tournament teams in 2008,
Bracketology 101 also became the first bracketology site to ever seed 40 teams
exactly and 60 teams within one seed line of their actual seed. Through 2009, we
are the only bracketology site to earn this distinction.Looks like
they get it when it comes to placing teams in the "dance".You, like
so many BYU fans, spout opinion without backing it up. Where in your
meaningless rant should the mighty Cougs be seeded? Won't be 1, 2,3,or 4. So
that makes them a 5 or 6. Most likely six because they won't win the MWC
tourney. St. Mary's could beat BYU with 4 players on the court.
Did you see them dismantle Gonzaga tonight. Take a koolaid break!
Predictions are easy to make, Mr. One-and-done. I might have paid attention to
yours but you have Cornell beating BYU - an Ivy league team with absolutely no
NCAA tournament experience? I'm not even sure that St. Mary's and Xavier are
givens. This is not the same Xavier team that went so far into the tourney a
couple of years ago. I would also not predict the Florida matchup because, again
Horford and Noah are no longer playing there. There is a big flaw in
your logic. Bracketology 101 is not on the selection committee. The sixth seed
for BYU is meaningless - as are their seedings of the other teams.
Please Coogs, just win the MWC tourney!! You will need to get past Utah or UNLV
to get to a rematch with UNM. I believe in you. I think.
I keep reading about pathetic rankings and about the under rated Cougars. I
think the Cougars are really good and could make some noise in the tournament,
however, they lost twice to New Mexico. You cannot compare the fact the New
Mexico barely beat Utah and only beat TCU by 7 and that BYU beat both of them
soundly. New Mexico beat BYU twice and New Mexico is west of the Mississippi.
Utah State beat BYU. The records of who beat who makes no difference, Utah
State beat BYU. All three are good teams. Cougar fans have nothing to be
ashamed of, the Cougars have had a great year. Lets stop the "yea buts" and
call it like it is, the Cougars went 0-3 against New Mexico and Utah State. I
think that is what drives me crazy about Cougar fans is how they try to
rationalize how good they are when the final out come on the court against a
particular opponent says other wise. Let me add that the Cougars are lots
better than the Utes.
You are kidding right??? You cant take away from BYU the fact that the have a
great record this season and have destroyed some horrible teams but 9th in the
nation give me a break.
Braketology 101 has BYU as a 6 seed and these teams in the eleven spot.If the Cougs get St. Mary's - one-and-done. If the Cougs get
Florida -one-and-done. If the Cougs get Cornell - one-and-done.If the Cougs get Xavier - one-and-done.
BYU is one the top ten teams in the country although not ranked in the top ten.
This will show clearly in the Mountain West Conference tournament where BYU
No, not BYU, not UNM! Gonzaga has to be the most over ranked team in the top
You guys sure are special. Remember when BYU had their 1-25 season with that
interim coach because their head coach got fired? Now who was it again that BYU
beat that year to get their one and only win? Hmmmmm...having a tough time
remembering...gee was it....hmmmmm....a little help, anyone?hahaha
No disrespect to New Mexico, but BYU just barely lost to them and has destroyed
teams that New Mexico struggled to beat. It obvious that voters nationwide are
bias against BYU. With their record and talent they should be ranked at least
And if Utah State played with the same passion they played with BYU in all their
games, they would be undefeated and, they would be ranked in the TOP 5
nationally. I mean heck if you want to compare, then lets compare. BYU lost to 4
teams with a combined record of 104-19 and yep, you were one of those teams. Now
of course USU lost 6 games and to be fair, I threw out the two teams you lost to
that were 14-16 and 15-15. I only added up the win/loss columns of the best
teams you lost to who had a combined 86-37 record. Yep, looks like you are
right, you are a better team. I mean You beat us, we beat Utah, Utah beat you so
that makes you such a superior team, one to be reckoned with. HAHAHAHAHA. I will
say however good luck to the Aggies, they deserve to be there which is better
than what you even have the intelligence to recognize for BYU.
Love all the silly comments from "mature" BYU fans. Congrats to the Y on a
great year, and the miracle ranking you currently have. I am happy for you. It
blows my mind that everyone talks about our Strength of Schedule being light,
yet it is several points stronger than BYU per cbssports.com rpi. Oh and by the
way, we beat you. Love that. Congrats to the U for beating us this year. It
is a definite rivalry game, but I believe we are up in the count for the last 10
years against the U. So glad to have such a stud coach in Stew Morrill. Love
our team and how much fun they are having. Anytime you can get a bunch of
balding RMs to beat BYU at their own game of mature RMs.....classic! Go Aggies!
I wouldn't have expected anything different. We beat a couple on nobody's,
simple as can be. If we had played some high ranking teams than their is a valid
complaint. It would not have made much of a difference. All they have to do is
win the MWC tournament and everything else will take care of itself.
Maybe if BYU schedule better OOC games they might move up. It doesn't matter
anyways 0-7 in NCAA in last 7 games. One and done here we come.
Ranking is not as important for college basketball than college football. Let's
just win every game from now on.
UTEP, a team BYU beat on their home court without Jimmer is now ranked! So now
BYU has a win against a ranked team! Hooray! Of course, that makes them 1-2
against currently ranked opponents, but who cares? They beat a currently ranked
Utes unchanged in the polls as well.
15 in a row as of Saturday. Most likely 18 in a row Saturday. The Aggies are
playing the best team ball in the West.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but UNM's Hobson just edged out Jimmer for
MWC PoY. Which at the end of the day does not matter. The Cougars
are a team-a very deep and talented team and need to focus their efforts on
winning one game at a time in Vegas.As a long-time Cougar fan, the
only thing I truly wish for this season is at least one victory in the NCAA's.
One would make me happy and two or more delirious! Just get that darn "one and
done" monkey off our backs.Honestly, this is a team that could make
a run deep into March if they stay intense and focused and unselfish.Go Cougs!!!
"...has an issue with Wild Bill - why turn your nose up at fans just having a
good time? By doing so you only give validity to the people accusing BYU fans of
being prudish and boring."Ok fine then. BYU fans will be thought of
as prudish and boring while aggie fans will be thought of as immature and
high-schoolish. So be it.
Hopefully the Cougars have swallowed their share of "choke cherries" this year
in the losses to New Mexico. Now if they can only figure out a way to beat UNLV
on the road, they might have a good chance of winning a post-season game.
I was surprised that the Y didn't move up, in spite of posting two big road
victories, with their star player limping along, and their bench coming up big.
It shows team depth.I have to remind myself that polls are simply
someone's opinion. Unfortunately those polls help determine the seeding for the
Big Dance. At least College Basketball allows their champion to be
decided on the court, unlike football.
This rating will undoubtably change after BYU wins the MWC tournament by a large
margin in all three games. They are the best team west of the Mississippi and
have at least two all-conference players in their starting five as well as the
conference player of the year(Jimmer Freddette), the conference freshman of the
year(Tyler Hawes), the best coaching staff in the country, and the best incoming
recruiting class in the conference. New Mexico will drop out of the top ten when
they lose in the conference tournament. BYU is playing the best basketball of
the season now and will disregard the sleazy people and environment of Las Vegas
and win the MWC tournament.
If any team is deserving from this point on they need to WIN THEIR GAMES. That
goes for Utah, USU and BYU. You loose and you are out. Just Win. Cougars, just win your next 9 games and you are THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN
AMERICA. But at least win your next four games. JUST DO IT!
Go cougars!!Impressive jpb this year and it is time to win some games
during march madness!!!!!!!
but, as long a you keep winning, moving up in the polls often depends more on
what teams just above you did, than on what you didbottom line: as
long as BYU doesn't let TCU steal one in the opening round of the MWC
tournament, the Cougars will get no less than a #6 seed, and could get as high
as a #3 seed by winning the tournament.BYU has NEVER lost an opening
round game in the NCAA tournament with a #6 or higher seed
With the season coming to an end like this, BYU was stuck in the middle of some
teams that won, so it didnt surprise me much that they didnt move up in the
It would be fun to see these two teams play each other in the tournament. At
least one of them would finally get a win in the big dance! I went to the USU
Marquette game last year in Boise. USU played well but fell apart in the last 4
minutes after being up 6 points. It was to bad they missed a golden oppertunity
to get a win in the NCAA tournament. BYU and USU have a lot in common, huge
home court advantages, good teams, good coaches that don't seem to get it done
in the big dance. Neither team has had great seeds either but maybe this year
will be different for the Y and the Aggies.
Look, for all you Utes that are yipping about "one and done", wouldn't it be
better to be "one and done" in the NCAA tournament rather than the MWC
Tournament or the WAC tournament? Just a thought, after the way your season has
gone and the way your program is headed, which is even worse. Limited talent
coming back, leadership that's even worse; ouch, that spells doom for a once
respectable program. You're lagging way behind both shades of blue. And, you
know it!! No one is unaware, but some choose to lie to themselves!!As for
seating, everyone also knows BYU gets "pigeon holed" because of the "won't play
on Sunday thing". Call it whinning if you want but the truth is, it takes more
than just a special year to get any kind of respect. As for Chris Hill, he
couldn't care less where they were. No loss there for BYU or the conference.
I can't disagree with anything you've said. It's fun that the Aggies are doing
well in basketball, this is their time of year since football season brings
nothing to the table. The Utes, on the other hand, are counting down the days
until football comes back, since this time of season lately has been as bitter
as football in the fall in Logan. Fortunately BYU fans have both seasons to look
forward to year-in and year-out and that doesn't look to change anytime soon.
Here's hoping both USU and Utah can get their respective doormat programs into
prominance again so the rivalries can flourish all year long!
If getting beat by a team means they should be ahead of you in the polls then
Utah State should be ranked ahead of BYU.
I hate the aggies. We stink this year and we beat you ladies. The saggies DO
NOT belong in the NCAA tourney, end of story.
I am a die hard Aggie fan and not a Cougar fan at all. It doesn't bother me
though to say the Cougs have a good team this year and could make some real
noise in the Big Dance. The quality of their team is why it felt so good to beat
them this year in the Spectrum and I mean that as a compliment, not a slight.
I'm not surprised they didn't move up the top twenty five list. It's a lot
harder to move up the top half of it than the bottom half. As for the Ags, I'm
not concerned that they didn't crack the top 25 this week. There's a lot of
talented teams in similar situations. Let's just win the next three to guaruntee
a trip the the dance and hopefully slip into the top 25. For the BYU poster that
has an issue with Wild Bill - why turn your nose up at fans just having a good
time? By doing so you only give validity to the people accusing BYU fans of
being prudish and boring.
go byu! let your play do the talking and win the mwc tournament.
What is a top 25 poll? I am unfamiliar with this term.Ute fan.P.S. Polls don't matter because unlike football, college football is
actually decided by a tournament.
Shut up...nobody south of SLC cares about your team.
Did BYUs rpi drop from last week? I guess they needed to beat the Utes by 30
and TCU by 40. Hopefully Utah will beat UNLV and BYU can get that 30 point
victory - maybe 40 with foster out.
Utah State not being ranked is just disrespect and unfairness on the part of
those that vote. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Three WAC
championships in a row, a fifteen game winning streak and a high RPI rating. If
this doesn't show disrespect and unfairness, then I don't know what is. Shame,
shame . . . shame
Congratulations on also holding your position in the polls in the "others
receiving votes" category. Very impressive. Sounds like the voters aren't going
to give you any respect unless you win the wac tourney. But hey, I could be
wrong, maybe not even then. Makes a lot of sense to me since you lost to
utah. Maybe they'd take you more seriously if you took yourselves
more seriously and banned fat Wild Bill antics from the games instead of looking
like a high school by allowing him to do his weird stuff.
Last year was Hill's final one of being on the selection committee. That was a
BIG reason his team got such a high seed, it was merely a generous parting gift
from his selection committee buddies. Proof was in the pudding they didn't
deserve a 5 seed.
Is that why San Diego State got snubbed last year? Hill looks out for no one but
Chris Hill will make sure and watch out for the MWC. He's done a great job
protecting our conference since joining the selection committee. I thought it
was justice his Utes got a 5 last year and well, we all know what happened!
So the NCAA Selection Committee exists to get BYU out of the Tournament?Why don't they like BYU? What a "Picked On" complex...
Utah had a better team so beating them by twenty in the Huntsman Center would
Here comes the victim card!!!LOL
Does it really matter?All you Yners please quite your squawking.
You’ll all be staring at the wall after your “one and done” in
Now the posturing begins. Keeping the Cougars pat in the standings is the first
step in giving them as weak a seeding as they can in the NCAA tournament.BYU better win the MWC tournament, or the committee snobs will use any
sign of weakness to give the Cougars as bad a seeding as they feel they can get
away with.No sour grapes here. Just stating past history.P.S. You can bet BYU's first round opponent will be a team that the committee
is sure will give the Cougars enough fits to kick'em out again. Maybe Notre
Dame, who's been killing top teams lately, or even Cal with hopes the Pac-10 can
one-up the MWC after such a sorry season for that league.
By the way, New Mexico was unchanged in the polls, after playing only 1 game,
against TCU, at home, a game in which they only managed to win by 7 points. BYU
plays that same team, on the road, wins by 30, also plays on the road against
Utah, beats them by 20 and it wasn't even that close. New Mexico was barely able
to squeak by Utah in SLC in overtime just a couple weeks ago. You tell me who
had the more impressive week...Oh well, bring on the tournament!
When the talking heads at ESPN start refering to teams from the Big 10.Big 12
etc as BCS schools in basketball.What would you expect?
How can a team like Ohio State be Ranked #5? if they have lost 7 games....
doesn't that mean that there are at least 7 teams better than them? funny...
I think the polls are starting to wise up to BYU's weak SOS. Maybe the Cougs
should have scheduled a better non confernce.
Polls shmolls! Let the Cougars play their game and make a huge statement at the
MWC tournament. This year is going to big for the cougs at the NCAA tournament.
BYU has never had a more driven, talented and unselfish team. Anything is
Thanks to the stellar caliber of teams that are Utah and TCU! BYU wins two road
games by a combined 50 points and a team behind them in the polls passes them
up? Kick the utes and frogs out of the MWC!