Move-in plans, new restaurants mark City Creek development's progress in downtown Salt Lake City

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  • kitchy
    Sept. 13, 2010 7:27 a.m.

    Always nay sayers! Always those people who are negative about everything! Try to look on the brighter side of life! Accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, latch on to the affirmative, don't mess with Mr. In-Between! Be happy about the new downtown area. Heaven knows it needed a facelift.

  • JOHN
    Feb. 17, 2010 7:11 p.m.

    This development is going to be fantastic not only for Salt lake City but for the State of Utah and the region as a whole. I am hopeful that this will lead to other great developments in this Great City and Great State.

  • I'm Just Sayin'
    Feb. 10, 2010 2:40 p.m.

    To Dorfman: The creation of 1800 jobs that are not a burden on the taxpayer is much better than just giving people food and other things. You are entitled to your opinion, but it seems to me that you were a bit shortsighted with your comments.

  • Moracle
    Feb. 10, 2010 1:11 p.m.

    I look forward to enjoying the City Creek project when I visit from the Southeast. It sounds like a fun, exciting, and exceptional place to shop and live.
    I hope the condos are being sold to families that will use them as year-round residences, rather than for occassional visits for conference and skiing -- so the businesses there will remain viable.
    Kudos to those with the forsight to envision this project.
    It will do much to keep the area around Temple Square safe, alive, beautiful, enjoyable, and well.

  • Perhaps...
    Feb. 10, 2010 12:33 p.m.

    these articles could clearly state that the way all this development is paid for is from profits garnered through investments and corporations owned by a FOR-PROFIT, TAX-PAYING arm of the corporation of the presiding bishop of the LDS Church. Furthermore, the LDS Church's WORLD HEADQUARTERS are located in downtown Salt Lake City, and the Church leaders have an interest in the vibrancy and appearance of downtown. They have wisely found a way to do this without using member donations and with a plan for it to pay for itself and even, gulp, make some more profits in the process.

    Oh, and guess what, the gay/lesbian community will even be free to protest when it's done on this very ground!

    Oh yea, remember that this was all planned and started before the economic meltdown. At least all those construction and consultant folks have kept their jobs and we're not left to look at empty building shells and holes in the ground!

    Try to separate the words "LDS Church" from what you see going on there, and you might be grateful for the revitalization of a declining area of the city.

  • Jack
    Feb. 10, 2010 12:10 p.m.

    A billion here and a billion there, pretty soon you have the equivalent of a large and spacious building...

  • jefejivaro
    Feb. 10, 2010 11:55 a.m.

    It's worthwhile noting that not only will the completed development employ large numbers of people, but the ongoing construction has averaged around 1,500 construction jobs at any one time. Not too many projects of that size going on in this state. The absence of this project would leave a serious hole in the industry.

    Just to reiterate, no member donations are used on this or any other commercial project or enterprise of the LDS Church. Members of the LDS Church are quite generous in their donations to worldwide humanitarian causes. The LDS Church has the enviable reputation amongst charities of delivering 100% of each donation to the people in need in the form of assistance. No administrative costs are deducted. How can they do that? By far the majority of those involved in the church's humanitarian efforts are adult volunteer missionaries, retirees who pay all their own expenses and receive no compensation for serving. If you have a sincere interest in helping those in need and want bang for your buck, you owe it to yourself to visit ldsphilanthropies dot org.

  • Johny Fairplay
    Feb. 10, 2010 10:49 a.m.

    What are the various businesses of the Catholic Church?

  • Cautiously Optimistic
    Feb. 10, 2010 10:25 a.m.

    I am in great hopes this project will turn out to be a good thing for everyone in SLC.

  • 9:02
    Feb. 10, 2010 10:20 a.m.

    Too 9:45 poster,

    'Enjoy the irony of using a church-owned business to talk about how you'll never visit a church-owned development. I sure do!'

    I know! I enjoy the hate made visible. Not the hate that is sinister.

  • Tab L. Uno
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:53 a.m.

    For a contrasting viewpoint see The New York Times (January 7, 2010) article entitled, "Project Renews Downtown, and Debate."

  • Re: Anon 9:02
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:45 a.m.

    Watch out! You're commenting on the website of a LDS-church-owned newspaper! Oops! Enjoy the irony of using a church-owned business to talk about how you'll never visit a church-owned development. I sure do!

  • Cedric from Canada
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:42 a.m.

    Criticism, scepticism and cynicism are so embedded in the lives of those whose sole purpose is to seek to crush the good works done by others. These individuals are never creators of anything good from which the community at large, including themselves, can greatly benefit. And so they seek to put down those who do create goodness for others. How critical, sceptical and cynical they are! And mostly how pitiful they can be for so doing!

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:40 a.m.

    So, working to deny marriage is ok? Because your the majority?

    Have members of the LDS church forgotten what it's like to be the minority?

  • Re: Dorfman
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:39 a.m.

    Who told you the lie that it was the members' money being spent on this building project? The LDS church does not mix corporate and charitable funds. This is funded by the church's corporate fund, money which has come from church-owned businesses.

    I can assure you the LDS church does an extraordinary job at serving people who are "starving, dying due to not having health insurance, loosing [sic] their homes, jobs." Maybe you can ask the Red Cross and the Utah Food Bank how much of their funding comes from the LDS church. Or look at how many people are employed, clothed, and furnished by Deseret Industries. Or ask several other religious charities in Utah how much the LDS church helps them. Did you consider the fact that the City Creek Center construction which you bemoan as a waste is keeping many construction workers in a job? I'm amazed at the laziness of your accusation.

  • Colorado
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:37 a.m.

    What a great example of free enterprise. Kudos to the L.D.S. church, Utah and Salt lake City. The return on investment for the church and Utah will be billions on top of billions on top of billions.

  • @anon 9:02
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:24 a.m.

    That's ok if you never go in because of prop 8, you're among the minority of voters anyway.
    But will you also boycott businesses owned and/or operated by Catholice, Jews and African Americans?
    No? Then bigotry is alive and well among the anonymous-ites.

  • @ Anon 9:02
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:16 a.m.

    You'd better not support any hispanic, african americans, or have any support for the catholic church's various businesses. They all supported Prop 8 as well...I guess you shouldn't go to California either since the majority of people there support Prop 8 too.

    By all means, stay away from Disney!

  • Mandorf
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:15 a.m.

    Mr. Dorfman, why do you care what is done with "the members money"? First of all, you don't know how or what money funded this project. If you did contribute to "the members money" did you do it with strings attached? If so, you are probably in for a lot more disappointment in your life. If you haven't contributed, why do you even care? I hope you figure things out sometime...
    BTW - the church has and is very involved in humanitarian efforts. In addition, the dollars spent on this project have kept countless people employed - so yes, this project has prevented people from starving, dying, losing their homes, and jobs. Of course, if you would still like to go to City Creek to beg I am sure nobody will stop you.

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 10, 2010 9:02 a.m.

    It's owned by the LDS church?

    After Prop 8 I will never go in there.

  • @ Dorfman
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:54 a.m.

    What a great comment. Is it incumbant on the LDS church to feed, insure, employ and house every person in the world?

    This project will provide jobs for many people, who in turn will be insured, buy food, and will be able to afford housing...interesting what happens when people are given an opportunity to fish, rather than have fish handed to them over an over again.

    What about those in construction that are building this project...are they not benefiting from this investment?

    Seems like the LDS church can do no "right" no matter what they do.

  • Tyler
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:48 a.m.

    To Dorfman:
    What's wrong with rejuvenating the city? I promise this is an investment, not an expenditure. The revenues from this finished area will more than pay for the costs to build it. Not to mention the jobs it will create; as opposed to the government saying starting clean energy programs will "create" new jobs that will only REPLACE old ones.

  • Dorfman
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:34 a.m.

    Yes, just what we need. People are starving, dying due to not having health insurance, loosing their homes, jobs, but we can go and beg food at the new City Creek center.
    Perfect use of "the members money"???

  • Nancy from Las Vegas
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:34 a.m.

    I'm excited about the City Creek project! In contrast, if you want to see Babylon and great and spacious buildings, come look at the Casinos where I live and the mist of darkness you can find there.

  • RE: Zoan and Anonymous
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:32 a.m.

    I take it you won't be swinging by City Creek.....ever. Too bad, really. I think it'll be a great place to visit once it's completed.

  • One and only
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:26 a.m.

    When I think $3Billion I think great an spacious building...

  • RE: Anonymous
    Feb. 10, 2010 8:06 a.m.

    You must be in a mist of darkness...

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 10, 2010 7:26 a.m.

    Oh goodie! Restaurants for the great and spacious building!

  • Zoan
    Feb. 10, 2010 3:45 a.m.

    Zion? more like babylon

  • John Pack Lambert
    Feb. 9, 2010 4:20 p.m.

    This is great news for Utah and all the more wonderful since it is not the tax payers who are footing the bill. Downtown Detroit in tehory could use a facelift like this, but it does not have the intact instiutions to make it so a facelift would really help.

    Feb. 9, 2010 4:18 p.m.

    If you like keeping up on the progress, check out this forum...

  • JanSan
    Feb. 9, 2010 2:43 p.m.

    Just think of all the jobs that will be opened when this is completed! Beauty and financia stability working together plus housing.. all rolled up together. Thank you!

  • Can't Wait!
    Feb. 9, 2010 11:33 a.m.

    Very exciting!

  • Anonymous
    Feb. 9, 2010 11:18 a.m.

    I love keeping up on the progress of City Creek. A much needed breath of fresh air for the downtown area. It'll be fun to take the kids there at Christmas time when it's finished.