The Jazz foul the most but even Hollinger acknowledges that they get the most
"thefts"/steals of any team. So they do get their moneys worth so to speak.As far as the other poster contradicting Hollinger on his offensive
analysis--you criticize him for his critique of the Jazz awesome offense but all
of a sudden he is a genius by saying the Jazz foul to much? Either he knows
what he is talking about or he doesn't, which is it?Much of this is
about philosphy--Jerrys is different than Hollingers on fouling--big deal. My
guess if anyone really believed Hollinger knew more about coaching than Sloan,
he would have a coaching job--not Sloan. Case closed.
At the bottom line in accounting terms, it may show a loss. However, one of the
deductions allowed is the depreciation of the value of a players contract. It
is like the depreciation of a building. It is a deduction but not a "real" out
lay other than the cost of the building. It is called cash flow. Thus the
amount of the depreciation is LHM's cash flow. So in true accounting terms,
there may be a loss but it won't actually be a money loss. It is just
accounting. To the Jazz, let's hope for the best and expect the best. GO JAZZ.
GO JAZZ. GO JAZZ.
Utah is very fortunate to have the Jazz. Larry H could have sold the Jazz many
times and has kept his business in Utah. Thank you very much LHM.Jazz in 5
Thanks everyone, I agree with most of the posts about LHM and his business
interests. SELF MADE-- What an accomplishment. Stay positive everyone we are
fortunate to live where we do. Go Jazz.
The kind of money NBA players make is ridiculus. Hope JAZZ go deep into the
playoffs. I think Larry Miller makes money or he wouldn`t keep the team.Still
would like to see name changed to something that relates to the State of Utah.
Hollinger said "To put that into context, if they had done it for a full season,
the Jazz would have been by far the best offensive team of all time"This is according to his own statistical anaylis. This is not a standard the
NBA uses. To say the jazz could have the best offense in the history of the NBA
is quite a stretch. They scored less than 100 the past 2 games alone.One point that I agree 100% with is Hollinger's anaylis that the jazz foul way
too much. The most in the league over the past 10 years. He was on with David
Locke the other day, and spent a good deal of time discussing this point. It is
a fact that a jerry sloan coached teams fouls more than any team in the league
and it isn't a good thing. Jerry needs to coach his team to committ good fouls
and timely fouls, but I'm not sure he knows this himself.
@ Moto XI read that article as well, lets hope Hollinger is right
this year like he was last year!
While you (Larry)may make more money with more home games, had utah beat the
Spurs we likely would have played them in the first round WITH home court adv.
Translation: One more "home" game and then a first round exit. This matchup with
the Rockets provides a more realistic opportunity to have atleast 6 home playoff
games (through 2 series). Better for Larry's pocketbook, better for the fans and
the franchise! Go Jazz
Jazz in 5!The Jazz don't lose money. They only compare salaries to
ticket sales/tv deals. The concessions and merchandise sales, as well as in
arena advertising more than make up the difference. Has anybody ever seen a
short line for beer sales? While the league takes a larger percent of the
playoff tickets, the cost for each ticket goes way up for each round. LHM would
never keep any business that wasn't at least breaking even.
The Jazz really do lose money every year when you just look at the opporations
of the Jazz alone. But they are not alone as many NBA teams lose money. The
reason LHM and others continue to operate a team is for several reasons. First,
the franchise value goes up and at some point LHM can sell the Jazz if he wants
and cash in for millions. Second, it creates a brand for larry. People know
who LHM is and buy cars, movies, baseball tickets, and burritos because it has
his name on it.People just hate LHM because he is rich. But I think
he deserves props. He put his neck on the line with the Jazz. It has paid off
and his is wealthy. What is wrong with that? At least we have a pro team in
Utah. I don't hate other people for being rich, so I see no reason to hate
Larry. Go Jazz and I am glad they aren't moving to Oklahoma or
We ought to be happy with LHM spending the cash to have a decent team.Hollinger--ESPN--todays says:The Jazz played extremely well down the
stretch. Even with the meltdown in San Antonio included, over the last quarter
of the season the Jazz had an offensive efficiency rating of 116.0 -- that
dwarfs the Suns' league-leading mark of 111.2. To put that into context, if they
had done it for a full season, the Jazz would have been by far the best
offensive team of all time. Utah went 37-12 after Jan. 1, and the number of
blowout wins over quality teams is staggering. The Jazz beat the Celtics by 18
in Boston the Celtics' worst loss of the season. The Jazz beat New Orleans by
28, and then again by 22 two of the Hornets' three worst defeats of the year.
They beat San Antonio by 26 and the Lakers by 24 for each, their worst loss of
the season. They beat Phoenix by 22 and beat Denver by 27. Overall, Utah won an
astounding 18 games by more than 20 points. The Jazz didn't lose a game by more
than 20 until the Spurs!!
There is a difference between The JAZZ not making money and LHM not making
money. Remember his salery is part of the reason the Jazz loose money. Anyone
who thinks that LHM isn't as please as can be and making money is Crazy.Thats big Bussiness, and I aplaude him, he is good for this franchise. Go Jazz, in 6. I look forward to them Beeting the Lakers next!
I love Larry Miller, he has been great to our state.GO LARRY you are the
best owner in the world.I alsolove hearing you talk on Thursdays David
Locke showits a real infomative hour of talk radio.
Thank you Mr. Miller for having the guts to go out on the line personally to
keep the team here in the first place, and for building a team that is
competitive but done with players who for the most part we can all be proud to
cheer for. You deserve all the money you make on this team, nobody else stepped
up to the plate!
I love the Jazz and are glad they are here. It's ok for Miller to make
money, he took the risk and it's paid off. That's America and it's great. As
far as loosing money, the team's worth 345 million, nobody with that type of
money makes big loosing business vetures and banks wouldn't loan it unless it
made big bucks. If there weren't busness men willing to pay it then the Jazz
wouldn't be worth that much. It's ok for Larry to make big money he took the
risks and did the work, he shouldn't have to be shy that he's now getting his
reward. Go Jazz!!!
I think Larry Miller is a master at crying poverty. THe Jazz are not losing
money. It is one way for him to position himself as Mr. Nice guy with his front
office and players. "See, I lose money so I can pay you so much." THen when
contract renewals come he has bargaining chips. Very sly.
Thank you LHM for changing the Jazz colors to navy/powder blue from
teal/copper/purple. I feel that this has made Jazz merchandise more appealing to
buyers. I personally have bought more Jazz merchandise since you made the
change. More revenue for you. GO JAZZ!!!!!
I also congatulate LHM for his total overall succeeses. He has acomplished this
the old way--on his own. But lets not forget who pays all of the bills and
investments. The FANS and all US CITIZENS. Total or almost total employment by
working america pays all of these bills. The ESA, Delta Center and the old Salt
Palace have been near or complete sellouts for years and years. That is 1st amd
foremost to success, then the other fans come in to play and lastly every
citizen in the state and U.S. pay for these expenses. Local media and most
importantly the national media play into bottom line with the HUGE -multi year
broadcast contracts that are divided up per team. NBA clothing and other related
items make up more. Basically who pays for all of this--Advertisers. Who pays
the advertisers--THE CITIZENS(even non sports followers). Everything we use day
to day, consume ect, is marked up to include cost of doing business to have
bottom line profit. There are many other bottom line items but I'm out of room,
so I say Go Jazz and Good Luck men in closing.
Jazz fans need to be so happy with Miller. I live in Seattle, and it is a crying
shame what is happening with the Sonics. 41 years of history is going down the
toilet. Up here, its all about the greedy pigs who only think about themselves.
Be grateful for what you have!
I heard early this year LHM bought the Jazz for 10 million. Now it is Worth
345 million. why didn't Rigby talk about that. Jazz in 6
Cry me a river about LHM's Jazz losing money. I don't buy that idea for one
minute. There are several pockets being lined with cash, lots of it, and more
than just the overpaid players. They wouldn't be in business if they weren't
making money.And ticket prices continue to go up. When Rigby says
"It becomes a diversion for people and their personal challenges" he's certainly
not talking about the average person. Only the elite with big $$ are able to
take their kids to a Jazz game and afford it...unless you sit in the rafters
where you can't see anything. Wow, great diversion for personal challenges!Give me a break. Don't plan on sympathy any time soon when LHM starts
bawling (literally) about his poor Jazz not making money.I have a
money saving idea for LHM...dock Boozer's pay every time he does his "matador"
defense, aka steps to the side and lets the opposition drive down the lane
uncontested. That'll increase your profits!
I couldn't agree more with VegasJazzfan. I hear people complaining about LHM
and just don't get it. It must be because he's on top and people like to pull
people down. They say that while eating at his restaraunts and movie theaters
and claiming to be a Jazz fan. Thank you Larry!
Thanks Larry Miller, for continuing to give Jazz fans everywhere a quality team
to root for! Let's hope the Jazz go deep into the playoffs, and as each home
playoff game helps team finances, all the better! Through many years of hard
work, he/they have built a strong organization. If it's synergistic with his
other ventures, I say good for him and the many people he employs over the
years. Look at the value which the Jazz (and I suppose some of his other
businesses) have brought to Utah's economy. No, I have no vested interest in any
of those ventures... just an appreciative fan of many years that loves the Jazz,
and respects skilled and hardworking businesspeople.