Kings use pressure to rally past visiting Utah
You'd be completely right if you exclude the times the Jazz got shafted by MJ
and co. in the Finals. The officiating was terrible.
This seaons is amazing. Go Jazz! Beans beans the magical fruit the
more he they lose they more Jason Hart.
the Jazz have benifited from "home cooking" more than any team in the league,
particulary during the Stockton and Malone years. Quit crying fans, the jazz
have gotten a ton of help over the years. And to be honest, 90% of the calls
that went against the jazz were good calls.
Kings: 50 freethrow attemptsJazz: 23 freethrow attemptsIs it
me, or do the refs always seem to favor the opposing team to the Jazz?
No defense again from Boozer or Okur in the Sacramento game. They just can't
stand around and watch the opposite team go to the basket time after time, but
they do. It's painful to watch. Korver had his woes as did Kirilenko and D-Will.
The Jazz need Brewer back as soon as possible. Price does a good job when he's
in. Hart? Who's he? Tonight's game against Chicago should be an easy win. Did I
just say that or what? We'll see won't we? GO JAZZ!!
As usual, I decided to blame this loss on Sloan. I am serious. His team will
never play great defense, because he lacks the plan. He undermines the players
who plays goo defense [AK, Brewer]. So players have no reason to play
good defense. Sloan loves it when players foul the opponents. Any Sloan's team
will have high fouls/game [because he thinks fouling is playing good
defense]. He thinks Collins is a good defender. Collins cannot guard any
decent PF/C in this league. So Jazz opponents game plan is simple: swarm Boozer,
play zone defense, run to basket and Sloan is lost.. Whenever Sloan gets ejected
Jazz actually does very well [because his assistants are somewhat sane].
Boozer is shooting like a drunk booze hound!! what the duece!?
Sorry to harp..... but again to the 'why argue over 8 minutes of back up point
guard time', what if DWill CAN'T play? With the injuries in the last couple of
games, it's never been more clear that basketball is, in fact, a contact sport,
and players do get injured (and sick.... how many times have we heard the words
'flu-like symptoms' in the past few games as well?). So, even if you don't
think '8 minutes' matter much (which I disagree with to begin with), then I
guess you will just keep your fingers crossed that DWill doesn't get sick,
injured, have a family emergency, etc., etc.
It was unraveling at the 2:37 mark in the 3rd with a five point lead.SlowN made two substitutions, one was OK , the other a set back again.We all
saw what the result was,among 18.4 seconds of nothing,a air ball to close the
quarter.You'd think,someone with over a thousand wins would be
in-the-know how to react,cure something as that! As it was said earlier, it
looked as SlowN was on valiums.As a youngster, it was taught to play
within the rules,not to worry about the officiating. To reach down,discipline
your self into better composure if things would be unjust .Last
night,the Officiating was........not! As Brenden said;Ref's allowed
them all the time in the world,on two occasions without a time out,but Millsap
got cut and they jumped right on the time out call.SlowN did
nothing,said nothing,was he in a stupor? He called every play in the 4th,
result......17 point hole,one time out? Yes, players are playing
the game, but you'd best do as instructed or else there comes the dog house.
A couple of breaks,better time and substitution management and it
could have been a win for the guys.
Why do people argue about 8 minutes of back up time? Well, for one thing, it is
more than 8 minutes and for another, it DOES matter. The Jazz need a point
guard that can come in, and either hold his own and run the offense effectively
or actually HELP in the game. Price has shown for some time now that he can do
this, while Hart hasn't. Simple enough? Moving on.... I agree with Cory's
comments regarding 'D up Korver'. ESPN highlights? Are you kidding me? Korver
has been solid defensively (a surprise to some maybe?). If there is anyone who
needs to be more consistent on defense, it is Boozer. He has shown he can step
it up, but it just isn't always there. Ugh, the officiating. Like others,
I usually try not to blame losses on poor calls. I tell my kids that there are
going to be bad calls, some go your way, some don't. Good teams rise above this,
and find a way to win anyway. But the officiating in this game was just plain
Misses # 12 do you even have a clue? Hart kills the momentum of the game.
Games are often won or lost on momentum. 8 minutes is a lot of time esp. in
Why do people argue about 8 minutes of back-up point guard time? Now if DWill
could not play, then we would have something to talk about.
Jerry Sloan if you don't stop playing Jason Hart in the critical time of the
games we are going to watch the real salt lake games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As usual, the NBA refs for some reason as scared to death of Kings fans. They
allow them to take all the time in the world to help Martin after he gets hurt
with no timeout needed as well as Garcia at the end of the half, but the moment
a Jazzman gets hurt its either call a timeout or send in a sub. Too one sided.
I say this not just because the Jazz shot 27 less foul shots than the Kings, but
because any team that goes into ARCO Arena gets the shaft. Ron Artest only
averages 2 fouls per game at home, but 4.5 on the road. Whats the difference in
his playing style at home versus away? Nothing, just scared officials.
It was as obvious as ever last night that the jazz need a defensive center.
Although the jazz gave up a lot of open jump shots, the kings pretty much got to
the rim at will. Sorry to say it, but Memo and Boozer are pretty weak on the
defensive end. So who does that leave to clog the middle? Gee any way we could
get Araujo back?
Just one of those games where the whistle did not go your way but hopefully they
don't fall back to there bad habits of poor defense. Collectively last night the
whole team stunk defensively. Even in the Denver game how many dunks and
uncontested layups did we see. We were just lucky to outscore them. Compared to
the Denver game though the Jazz did not try to push the tempo, missed a lot of
shots, slap at a player defense, whine at the refs. Not one player stuck out in
my mind for playing hard and hustle except Price. We have seen this team before
come out and look lackadaisical on both sides of the ball back in December. I
know its only one game but, I hope they know that they are only 2.5 games out of
first place but, they are only 2.5 from last place. Pathetic efforts like last
night will have you fishing in April. If they would have lost to Denver the
other night I could live with that because the effort was there. Its the no
effort nights against below 500 teams that move you from 4th to 8th in seeding.
I normally do not say anything about officiatingas jr. jazz dad/coach/part time
ref, I know it is hard...but I also spend some time watching games just to learn
better officiatingand my son and I watch these games together, with tivo, to
help him learn footworkstaying in front of you manetc.I know that
does not make me an expert by any means, but I like to think I can look at
things in a balanced way, and I can tell you that I turned off the game in the
4thnot because of the way the Jazz were playing, which was pretty soft and
lazybut after watching 3 straight Jazz turnovers that should have been fouls
called on the kings, followed by those same TOs turning into fouls against the
Jazz when it was the Kings initiating the contact. We reviewed Kevin Martin and
Artest a few times and my son said "Dad, if I do that in practice on offense, my
coach calls me for the foul and chews me out" and he was right. Seldom does the
officiating truly have an effect on the outcome...but this was one of those
Memo to BIGFRED: What fantasy world are you living in my friend? The Cougars
are a collegiate team in a midmajor conference. They are going nowhere after
the conference season ends. The Jazz are okay, but are going nowhere just like
the Cougars....they are both just entertainment....just enjoy the games
everyone. They are simply not athletic enough to challenge for any
championship. Why do the management put up division, and conference
championship banners in the rafters anyway.....that is a joke? Every since that
happened, as with Frank Laydon's name on a jersey went up there....it has taken
away from the meaning of the players who have their jerseys hanging up there.
I forgot to point out that the announcer last night (for sacramento) actually
said "Jerry Sloan is as mad as a WET ROOSTER" I laughed for about 2
hours. Cowtown, California.
Hart...you did it again! You are terrible. 20 seconds left and you with the
ball does NOT mean you hold it for those 20 seconds only to huck up a bad shot
with your SWEET 25% shooting average. Man, we will continue to struggle as long
as he's the backup.
Check me if I'm wrong... because I'm really pulling for the former Wolverine -
but don't you think Ronnie Price is about to win the backup point guard
spot from Hart?More energy, more active on defense, better shooter,
better athlete - is it just a matter of time? Will Price force Hart to the
bench before March? How can Sloan ignore what Price brings to the court much
I didn't know the Big Blue Cougar club played basketball. I thought you all were
supporters of the WONDERFUL Y.
Don't blame the refs. You must drive towards the basket to get the fouls. Who on
the Jazz can do that consistantly. Then there rebounding, Okur cannot rebound
standing out by the three point line. By the way when was it he won the opening
tip off? Need a good big man that can jump. Too often he is not the 'money' man.
Agree Hart doesn't fit.
I agree that these were some of the worst refs we've seen this year, and thats
saying a lot. When there is a slight difference between free throws it's one
thing but by my count Sac attempted 50 freebies to Utahs 23, that's just a joke.
You can't possibly tell me that's fair. One of the sound bites that slipped
through the announcers mic was Sloan yelling at the ref after a ticky tack foul
saying something like "you better give that to our guys", with a swear word
thrown in for good measure. In response to "D up Korver", you
obviously haven't been watching many Jazz games becuase Korver has been playing
very solid D since he got here. Don't pay attention to what ESPN shows you,
since when have they been objective?
The reason the Kings had more free throws than the Jazz were they were attacking
the basket. How many times did John Salmons drive the lane, and get fouled or
made the shot, again (exact same thing happened last time the Jazz played in
Sac-town). We can't blame this on the refs. The Jazz would of gotten the same
calls if they did the same thing. And as for Jason Hart, why? That play with
seconds left in the quarter, with Andre Wide Open on the wing, who has been
lights out from the three, and Jason Hart stares at him, waits for the clock to
go to about 1 second, and then shoots it, pretty much air balling it. Pathetic!
No more Hart, the Price is right!!!!
why jerry Sloan keeps playing Jason Hart when he had Ronni Price playing much
better than him!!!!!!!!!!!put him on the bench much much time!. That might
keep the jazz winning more games!!!
.......... I WILL NOT RENEW OUR SEASON TICKETS! I AM DEAD SERIOUS. I will go to
the Utes or Theatre or something else. Who would pay $400 a night to watch your
team lose 8-10 points everytime that bum enters the game.
So the refs missed a couple. But, this is not the first time that the Jazz's
foul first, play defense later philosophy has hurt themselves. This is the same
way they took a few of the losses in December. The Jazz foul a lot.
If Boozer did not miss two consecutive shots when Jazz was down 0ne point in the
4th, it would be different. Also if Sloan had timed out when things started to
get out off control, it might be different. Kings score ran from 6-7 up to 15-17
in 3 minutes. AK missed a couple quick shots and a couple easy turnovers in that
Good thing Fes is down in the D league gettingreal experience.
When are the Jazz going to give the backup PG role to Ronnie Price? Jason Hart
is shooting like 32%. I don't think I have ever heard of an NBA player on a
teams rotation while shooting so poorly. And the shoots he misses are like
border line air ball to front rim. It's clear that Ronnie Price can run the
offense. He can also jump out out of the gym. Doesn't make sense to me.
You didn't get that on woodslide land did ya? Jazz are rolling. They should win
five or six or nina more in a row now. Refs were horrendous.
I don't know what it is, but I've always ALWAYS been nervous when the Jazz play
the Kings. Like trying to win in Madison Square Garden, the Kings seem to have
the Jazz figured out.
I am in the cougar club. They are better than the jazz.
The King's coach kept Douby in the game for the entire fourth quarter because
he sensed Douby was in rhythm. Douby does not usually get minutes in the fourth
quarter. This time, starters Martin and Bibby never left the bench during the
fourth quarter. The King's coach didn't blindly follow his rotation chart.ESPN quotes Sloan as saying that the Jazz players were "outhustled."
Maybe so, I think they certainly were "outcoached."
Jazz play Hart they lose.Sit Hart, play Price- Jazz win.Wake up Sloan. Hart is awful and kills Jazz momentum.
Is magntetic north or true north. Refs were horrible. Thats enuf!
50 to 23? I think that is 27 more free throws for the Kings and they only won
by 14. The Jazz outplayed the Kings, but because of the terrible officiating
the Jazz didn't have a chance. It was incredible how the Kings would drive to
the hole and get foul calls regardless if a foul was truly made. Deron drives
to the hole gets fouled and nothing is called; for example he came off a screen
got the ball and Brad Miller was there, Deron took it into his body made the
shot and nothing was called. All I ask is that the officials be consistent, if
they are going to call a lot of fouls, make sure they do it for both sides.
Honestly the game was decided on the free throw line and all the credit for the
win goes to the officials. Didn't this happen the last time we were in
Sacramento? I thought I was watching the same game. Its terrible!
Harps, Sappy, D'Wil and Price Kicked butt last night. The officials were bums.
I agree with Officials? The Sacramento game last night was one of the worst
examples of being homered in recent memory...mystery calls galore. But the Jazz
are an atrociously miserable passing team; in close games they were exposed.
They also cannot guard slashing driving players. What in the name of Sam Hill
are a Douby or a Salmon? Sacrament is a 'D' league teams as far a any NBA team
that will ever be a playoff contender. Korver came back to earth. The Jazz
seemed content to only shoot from the outside, other than D'Will's driving to
the hole. As I have said in the past, the Jazz cannot lose to any sub .500 team
in the league and be a contender for the title or even the playoffs the way
things are shaping up in the standings. Sloan and Johnson must be scratching
their heads again. The Jazz must finish off the next 4 games in the win column
or they will be in trouble.
I swear NBA officiating needs to be completely redone. Those officials were
completely wistle happy last night, We could have won it, had we kept a little
more composure, cause we have done it in the face of terrible officiating before
but bottom line, NBA refs suck...except of course that charming DICK BAVETTA ( I
hope thats how you spell his name)Good run JazzStart another and
KILL the bulls tonight.
The refs in this game truly dictated the pace of the game which caused the Jazz
to be totally out of sync. The worst called game of the year so far.
to officials.One word, WRONG. The Jazz played slow transition
defense with no help. The Kings were relentlessly taking the ball into the
paint and were the more aggressive team, that is the reason for the depairity.
Now, I will not deny there were some questionable calls, the Jazz flat out LOST
the game, and when it counted (the 4th quarter) fell apart offensively (poor
passing and settling for jumpers) and refused to play defense. I look for a
strong rebound against the Bulls tonight, and starting another streak.
I don't think the Jazz played with the same intensity that they have in the past
few games. The Kings were doing whatever they wanted most of the game. They
played well and we didn't---simple as that.Officiating was suspect, but a
team has to play well enough to overcome poor officating.I didn't see the
"spark" in the eyes of the Jazz last night like we normally see when they are
really playing well.They did hit their free throws pretty well when they
were honored to get a call from the refs.Hope they can come out and bury
the Bulls, but they will have to work at it, the bulls took it to Golden State
the other night.GO JAZZ!!!
The Kings played a tough game. They were agressive and the backed the Jazz
down. But I have to agree with Officials, every time that whistle blew, it was
against the Jazz. A lot of that came from aggressive play of the Kings, but it
seemed taking it the basket for the Jazz didn't yield the same whistle tooting
impact as it did for the Kings. Well, the Jazz had a good run, now they have to
gear up, for the next go round. Loose two in a row, and they drop several slots
in the standings.
More soft play down low.Too many free throws for the Kings.December
de ja vu.
Jimmy is disappointed but not surprised the Jazz lost that game. Sacramento is
better than their record, especially now that they have everyone back and
healthy and the Jazz have never played well at Arco Arena. Also Jimmy believes
that Ronnie Brewer is more important to this team than he gets credit for.Tonight the Jazz start a new streak against Chicago, who is suffering
through some injury problems.BTW - is anyone else surprised that
Jerry only has 3 T's so far this year? Jimmy believes that that has to be an
all-time low for him heading into the all-star break. Elias can you confirm
Sloan has really calmed down lately... either he likes these young guys more
than he lets on, he's just really happy Ostertag is gone, or his new wife gets
on him every time he gets a technical!
I knew the Jazz would lose the Sacramento game, they should have lost the
previous game in Denver too but they lucked out. The Jazz will come back to
earth now, no more 10 game winning streaks. They now have the three point
shooter they needed with Korver, but with no interior defense and Gasol now in
LA and Shaq in Phoenix, the Jazz are doomed to fail once again.
Jason Hart comes back and the Jazz NEARLY lose to the Nuggest, and then this
game they actually did lose. I'm just sayin'... He does well quite a
bit...but...the streak. Go Jazz! I'm sure Hart will do better.
Agreed. Whatever the reason, the refs were TERRIBLE. Normally when a team loses
by 13 or whatever it finally was it seems silly to blame the refs, but they just
made one terrible call against us after another and another. I don't blame the
guys for getting frustrated.
I'd asked a question "which team will be able to stop the jazz ?" and answered
"jazz". Yes, finally it happenned and Jazz stopped herself against the Kings. I
feel sorry to lose the game but i know any team can win because here's NBA. No
team can win all. On the other hand, maybe it happenned better for the Jazz,
'cause the player were under stress when to lose. Now, no more stress and i'm
sure they'll play better for the next. There is no problem..GO JAZZ
Ha ha ha ha ha........
Yes. But you have to over come that on the road for a good play off seed. Thats
the way it is in Sterns N B A . Boozer and Memo are back to soft D,.... again.
C.J. blew his chance,..... again. Korver was just a spot up jump shooter that
couldn't hit. Not much to his game tonight. I am tired of saying the same things
over and over about Hart. You all know it's a joke any way.Price looked very
good again. It's good to see him get play time. We missed Brewer's quickness and
defense tonight, he's important for setting the tone and it helps for when
Korver comes in. We really need a big man stopper just let Hart go to use his
roster spot for agood big. You can't go in to battle with only 3 4 and 5's
combined.(Okur, Boozer,(softies),and Milsap) What were they thinking letting
Araujo go with out replacing him with a good big. Instead they signed Hart. Well
we had a good streak and I'm sure we will regroup. But the West is tough and we
need a good big man.Please no more Hart. We don't want to pay for that.
I didn't see the game, but on the highlights on ESPN, in every one of them
Korver was falling on his rump "trying" to D-up Kevin Martin. He made Martin
look like frickin' Jordan out there. Let me tell you one thing, you better start
playing some dawgone D Korver. Or this will be the first of many losses the Jazz
have in store for them.
It's a little easy to see why the jazz lost. Sacramento shot 23 more free throws
then Utah. If that's not one sided calling I don't what isThe jazz
made 19 and the kings made 40, Take that away and utah would have won 85-77.
Pathetic simply pathetic. NBA I expect you to officiate, not give games away
How did Jerry Sloan make it through that game? This was some of the most
"homered" refs I've seen all year. That mysterious 3 second call on Milsap at
the end of the 3rd period was strange? I love my Tivo. The Kings at one point
were shooting 3-11 from the field during the 3rd quarter but had something like
28 free throws. This trend continued through the 4th quarter. The
jazz played well considering the pathetic officiating. I felt completely ripped
off, the only reason I continued watching this game was to see Jerry Sloan get
ejected, it was as if he was on valium?