byu 31utah 28utah just deal with it
As a student at the U., I would have to say my final decision is...GOOOOOOO
COUGARS!BYU 27 Utah 17
ive watched every BYU game and every Utah game. Utah will win i guarntee it.
Ha Ha these comments are hilarious. I don't really care who wins I just want it
to be an on the edge of your seat game (like last year). The comment on BYU
fans dropping the "flip" and "fetch" bomb made me laugh out loud. BYU and Utah
fans are so opposite. My prediction, many BYU fans get offended by some of the
Utah fans. Gotta love college football. I hope the score is within single
digits and comes down to a single play.
Like I said before...You Who-tah? fans are killing me...If you love your team so much, how come during your precious UCLA win at home
this year, your stadium was only half full?Hilarious.Prediction: BYU wins the opening toss and defers the kick - and Utah's opening
kickoff is an onside kick. Classic.One Love to Kanye West and Mitt
Romney in 2008.BYU - 35Who-tah? - 15 (5 Sakoda Field
Cougars. Wish on. This is Utes turn. BYU is going to loose, and i cant wait to
watch it happen. WE will see on Saturday (UTES DAY)
Has anyone check "versus" website? I think they are showing BYU-Utah game this
weekend. I am not sure how it works though. Disclaimer: I had nothign to do
with the website, I just did a Google search and found it and want to share it
with all the BYU-Utah Fans.
BYU 50Utah 0Kyle will be the one flipping us off.
It is not possible for UTAH to win.After 4 more days, it will become
impossible for UTAH to win.And if you don't believe something can be
impossible,try Dribbling a football.
Guarrantee one will lose and it will be bloody red.
So which is it? Live in the now and the fact that you won last year? Or should
the utes fan live in the past and talk about the last 7 years in LES? The
problem with that is BYU fans say hey we won last year out of one side of their
mouth then say you should take the longer look back. But why is it the longer
look back only goes as far back as they want? Look at the entire series to see
Utah has history on their side.
Isn't it great that this game will be on CSTV along with the MTN? I'll be able
to watch it at home! Hurray!! Cold day, warm food, family over watching and
cheering. We might care who wins during the game, but once it's over...no big
deal. We'll have fun watching.Our only genuine concern is that none of
these young athletes get injured.
You calling Utah 50 Wyoming 0, Utah 27 TCU 20, Utah 27 sand diego st. 3 lucky
wins???????? silly cougar i think not. (stupid cougar music) "Whine and Pout the
Cougar fans are out and there all stuck on faded glory!!!"UTAH 31
BYU 17end rant
What is your conference record? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. Until you do something,
If the Ute Indians don't like being associated with a losing football program,
then they should either take legal action or - better yet - JOIN THE YEWTS in
LES this Saturday!Bring the whole tribe and BYU will STILL kick some
This is our time to shine. Utah just got lucky to win the games they did this
year. Byu all the way 38-34 Utah scores on the last drive but they still come
up short and the Sea of Blue at LES goes nuts storm the field 2nd straight MWC
Regarding the stadiums...I was recently in Rice Stadium for the Utah High School
football championships and thought to myself, "this is a really nice
stadium...for a junior college." It was nice, but 45,000 seats compared to
64,000 is a large difference. And if BYU ever closes in the corners
of their stadium it will put them around 80,000.Sorry Yewtes!!
GO UTES!!!FOREVER!! BYU can win, at least us Ute fans won't be making up
excuses for the whole next season! Cowboy up and accept that sometimes we are
just BETTER! UTES BABY!!!
To Best Footbal Team in Utah | 10:42 p.m.If BYU is such a small
pizza parlor in such a big city, what does that make the Utes?Answer: Barely a stale piece of crust!Go Cougars!
The lil yewts fans are so giddy to talk about the past few years where they've
been so "dominant". All you have to say to get the lil yewt fans to shut their
pie holes is look at the past 40 years in the rivalry...BYU OWNS this rivalry
with a 65% winning percentage (26-14). Nuff said.
To "cougar fans":LES seating capacity exceeds that of half of the
PAC-10 teams as well as teams like GA Tech, Virginia, and Purdue. More
importantly, where it really counts (i.e., fans in those seats) BYU ranked 26th
in the nation last year, ahead of programs like West Virginia, Oregon, Missouri
and Virginia. Guess where the Utes fell? #49. Down there with UTEP and
Stanford.Mendenhall is reclaiming LES and the Cougars are going to
"hold serve" in their own house on Saturday.
...Because....There is only one game per year that the Utes live
for.Otherwise, I'd say apathy.RES wasn't even added on
because of demand, it was the Olympics.Funny thing, if they had put
80,000 seats at LES, they would fill it every week.I guess
with the extra Utah fans you mentioned, who go to see a real team play.
To "cougar fans":LaVell Edwards Seating Capacity: 64,045Rice
Eccles Seating Capacity: 45,017Do you really want to go there?
Sigh.Can only hope the Eewwts players take after so many their fans, full
of themselves and overhyped, paying little attention to the big picture,
focusing on small matters that make them seem more than they are. Utah is still
spasming over a couple of years of notable accomplishment, trying to make it big
enough to compensate for decades of mediocre at best. Can only hope the
Coogs players don't take after so many of their fans, posturing like they can
take it for granted they're better because they were for a whole generation.
This team is capable of rising up and laying waste to an opponent who might be
full of themselves, if they're not distracted by playground machismo. Then
they would remind us of the teams which did clearly stand out for decades- a lot
longer era than the Urban Legend.
The reason we dont fill RES is it isnt as much our home field as LES. Look at
the last 7 games at both places 5-2 at RES and 6-1 at our home away from home.
it's the "best pizza" post again. Gee yoot fan that one never gets old, does it.
Yes I agree yoot fans make the best pizza as they put their degrees to good use
slaving away behind all the pizza counters in Utah.And as for
claiming who-tah is the "best" team, yeah typical yoot logic demonstrated there.
The "best" team always has the most conference losses, right who-tah fans?And don't ya just love how who-tah fans can reel off biased lists of
stats that show everything has gone their way and therefore they are the best?
Like the classic & mostly meaningless "4 of the last 5 years" stat that includes
the 3 years Crowton drove BYU into the ground? Last time I checked, the series
is who-tah 4 wins, BYU 3 wins since 2000 and who-tah 9 wins, BYU 8 wins since
1990. Looks pretty even to me even with Crowton's 3 toilet years. And I know U
don't want to hear about 1970-1989.So sad for all the little yooties
that the best MWC team has already been determined this season, and it's BYU and
there's nothing they can do about it.GO COUGARS!!!
I think the Ute fan's inferiority complex is getting worse year by year.BYU by 5.The self-appointed league accountability cop Kyle
Whinyham cries after the game.Again.
Nice LBUN - you should have thrown in the wish to have a pathetic school song
like the pukes. It honestly sounds like something I would hear at the circus.
This game is going to be something else - behind all the hatred, I think
all the fans respect the ability of their opponent - pukes for the most part are
just too ignorant to admit it. As the week goes on I'm actually less worried
about BYU's ability to come out on top. Congrats to the pukes for claiming
victories at LES during the past decade (the absolute worst 10 years in the past
40) - anyway, I'm glad you understand what an accomplishment it was.
Mendenhall's era is different than the end of Lavell's and all of Crowton's, the
guy knows how to win and build a respectible program. It will still be a
close game (10 point win for BYU, yutes might consider that a blow out but it's
actually looked at as a competitive game by Cougar fans). Enjoy your visit to
Happy Valley - get your spanking and get back in your car and get the hell
you act like your stadium is big. It's tiny compared to all the stadiums around
the country. Plus does it really matter, all that matters is the team you put
out on that field! Go UTES!
Hey, the Dallas Cowboys beat the Indianapolis Colts last year, so they were the
best team in the NFL, even though Indy won the Super Bowl. Ute Fans, the Utes
have won 2 conference championships in 45 years (ironically both when Urban
Meyer was your head coach)---PLEASE STOP RANTING ABOUT BEING THE BEST PROGRAM IN
THE CONFERENCE. It is clear to everyone in the MWC, except for Utah fans, that
BYU is, to quote Coaches Patterson and Sanford, the "class of the conference."
whats with cougar fans and their "whoots"? verry kindergartenHAHA
OOHH!! My bad 2 whole stats out of how many possible? BY THE WAY THE UTES
HAVE PLAYED 1 MORE GAME THAN THE COUGARS. WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE THE COUOGS
RED SHIRT FRESHMAN WILL HAVE RUSHED FOR MORE YARDS THAN MACK!!!! YOU DONT EVEN
WANT TO TOUCH ALL PURPOSE YARDS!! LOOK IT UP BABY.. As for scoring
defense, whoots havent played COUGS yet. THE #1 SCORING OFFENSE. Dont bring up
the deffense on that one, the cougars have allready played some ranked better
than the utes and knocked them off their pegs.. I do admire the fact
that your the first to try though. REALLY. None the less, even then, thats a
couple within a very large stat sheet stacked against the whoots.
By the way, whats with whoots and their HAHA'S? verry
I remember a cartoon that reminds me of the big game and all the BYU posters
crowing about their conference championship.The cartoon showed a New
York City streetscape with four pizza parlors.Above the first pizza
place is a sign that says: "Best pizza in New York."Above the second
is a sign that says: "best pizza in the world."Above the third is a
sign that says: "best pizza in the universe!'Above the fourth is a
sign that says: "best pizza on this block."Saturday's game won't
determine who wins the conference championship, just which team is the best in
what i do not understand one bit is how byu fans say that us ute fans dont have
any room to talk smack. please correct me if im wrong, but if we are such a
pathetic sub-par team, then why have we beaten the cougars 4 of the last 5
years? if we are really that terrible of a program, but won 4 of the last 5
games...then what kind of program does that make BYU?
You kids win.We wish we didn't have MWC wrapped up.We are
envious of your zero points scored at UNLV, Wish their coaches laughed at us.Wish we ran scores up.Wish other coaches would flip our team off.Wish our former players that were NFL #1 picks were an embarassment.Wish
we didn't have a trophy that said BCS Busters.Wish we couldn't half fill a
50,000 seat stadium.Wish we weren't ranked.Wish we had a red bird
mascot.Wish we didn't do it all over and over again so
effortlessly.Sorry dudes, what's your secret? How to you Utes
continue to fail so miserably and still talk the smack. You guys
have it all.
RE: RE; DEFESE SAID:"BYU'S offensive and defensive stats are ahead
of utahs in every gategory, granted except special teams, and in most cases
utah's not even CLOSE.."man look at total rushing yards per game????
darryl mack baby!!!look at scoring defense per game??????? utes
baby! 1st place in the conference. haha look this up if u dont believe me
man.then RE: RE; DEFESE SAID:Come with
something real or hit the road. UTE FANS YOU RANT AND RAVE, YET HAVE YET TO MAKE
ANY KIND OF A REASONABLE ARGUMENT. and last but not least they
said: DO ANY WHOOTS HAVE REAL TANGIBLE STATS FROM THIS SEASON TO SUPPORT THEM ?
NNNNNNOOOOOOOO...haha well there is a couple "tangible stats"
for you to look at. there is a "reasonable argument". haha dont say ute fans
dont have the facts cause when you said----"BYU'S offensive and defensive
stats are ahead of utahs in every gategory, granted except special teams, and in
most cases utah's not even CLOSE.." --- it was you without the "tangible
stats" or "reasonable argument" haha coug fans....crack me right up
One point...That is what makes the Ute response so
idiotic...........See, the Utes scored zero....Glad you
asked, no dumb questions.
Utah's trick plays are mentioned by 11 posters so far, usually to complain that
they don't amount to real football.Puh-lease. You sound like Woody
Hayes complaining about the forward pass.
BYU 25 Utah 24 (write it down)
it looks like the cute little brothers down south are getting to full of
themselves lately. looks like we are gonna have to go down there and put them
back in line. go utes!
Dufous!! UNLV has an offense no where in the stratisphere of TULSA's. You
whoots really are just that.. Come with something real or hit the
road. By the way that doesnt mean past games from this season or otherwise. DO
ANY WHOOTS HAVE REAL TANGIBLE STATS FROM THIS SEASON TO SUPPORT THEM ?
NNNNNNOOOOOOOO... BYU'S offensive and defensive stats are ahead of
utahs in every gategory, granted except special teams, and in most cases utah's
not even CLOSE.. THIS INCLUDES NATIONAL RANKINGS AND RECOGNITION..
UTE FANS YOU RANT AND RAVE, YET HAVE YET TO MAKE ANY KIND OF A REASONABLE
The season has been fruitful for BYU and it will be no different this week.
Coach Mendenhall will be prayerful in his play selection and will be guided to
do those things needed to win this game. There is no easier foe than Utah and
the Cougars will slay the beast at home this weekend. Utah doesn't deserve to
be on the sacred turf of LES.BYU 34 Utah 7
Do you Coug fans even go to High school?Dude, you cant score ONE
POINT in football haha the lowest you can get is 2 with a safety. Nice try on a comeback though. :) maybe next time
Good ____ , you people are boring! You all go on and on about inconsiquential
wins, and or losses, for both teams, whether it be this year or the PAST, (WHICH
IS TRULLY SAD, YOU'VE ALLWAYS TRIED TO USE THAT AGAINST COUGARS, HHMM FUNNY)
when all that matters is this year! Run your mouths while you can,
it wont last long.For the peter attempting to put up win loss stats from
the last 8 years, PLEASE, 32-11-4 in the last 47 years head to head. SEE HOW
RIDICULOUS IT SOUNDS TO BE TALKING ABOUT YEARS GONE BY? If you would like
to continue though 22 conference titles to, WHAT 3!! We could go on and on,
heismans, doke walker, outlands, to long and numerous to remember without a list
in front of me!!! I WOULD SUGGEST A VISIT TO THE LEGACY HALL!! Of course
most utes will be either in bars or at a freinds to drink, WHICH EXPLAINS THE
OVERALL IGNORANCE, you cant remember what happens in the now, definitely not the
past!!!!!!! There are intilligent ute fans out ther , I know my freinds
are some, just apperently not here..
You are bringing up UNLV scoring against you?!"!?Dude, all they had
to score to beat you was ONE POINT!!!Do you Ute fans even go to High
End of season.BYU ranked.BYU going to a bowl.BYU conference
champs before the season is over.UTAH needs a win against BYU to salvavge
a season.Gets old to us cougs.You think you Utes would
get tired of it also.Come on guys, try a little harder next year.
how many TD's did tulsa score on your defense? a heck of a lot more than unlv
scored on ours. LoL thats what i thought.
You can thank BYU for why we even have the BCS. 1984. Beating a 6-6 team in
the "championship game" will never happen again.
The Yewts have not played a high-octane offense like BYU. I guarantee BYU will
score at least 30 on your sorry team.(That's 4 touchdowns since we know U fans
have a problem with math) See you on Saturday! By the way, how many
TD's did UNLV score on your defense?
utah has given up 1 touchdown in the last 14 quarters. and it was when new
mexico started on the 11 yard line after an interception. 14 quarters, and no
one has put together a touchdown drive against us. bring it kewgs.go utes.
Or....Hey, we could quit all of this my past is beter than yours
(cause we both know BYU is stronger there)or we have the best NFL veterans (BYU
again) Better mascot (BYU), Best stadium (BYU)... and live in the now.Play the game, if BYU wins, we win conference and go to the Vegas Bowl.But...If Utah wins, we win the conference and go to the
Vegas Bowl.Wait... Why are we playing?Oh
yes, it's because the BYU game is Utah's season again...So,
basically we're playing to give your life meaning, and that's what a good big
brother does...sometimes they don't really try their hardest, just
to let the little brother feel better...(sorta makes ya angry, but
that's really just the way it is).I'll have mom and dad tuck you in
on the way up...
You can thank for your BCS busting year to the 96 Cougars, they were the team
that forced the change in the BCS system. Ranked 6th in the country and not
getting into one of the big bowl games.
That was creative. Nice comeback, silly!!!!
I am a former Utah football player and I can't stand the Utes. They are the
WORST fans in the nation, jump ship at the first sign of trouble - 3 games into
this season and everyone was calling for Whittingham's head. What a joke.No wonder Utah is the most irrelevant team in the country. I am
embarrassed to be associated with the Utah program in any way.
Sure, you played for BYU.The moderator ought to boot your post for
misrepresentation.If not, I just have to leave it that you are an
You should also discuss kitty's bowls during the past decade. Scroll-up and
read RE: Conference Title's response. You silly goose, you!! Meow!!!!
"complies it", "aginst" and "projectionss results". Translation=Kitty
education. Meow, @good game!!!!
So, if Utah goes to all of the loser bowls, and beats loser teams, that makes
their stats look better...but... only on paper.Why don't they get
ranked, win the MWC and be known further out than the delivery radius of the Des
news or the trib?Oh, if Harline would have played in 2004 he would
have been open.I hear they are going to open a new building up at
the U to house the mythical BCS Buster trophy.Has anyone ever seen
the BCS Buster trophy?Is the BCS Buster trophy real to anyone in the
country that doesn't believe in Red Native American Chicken Hawks?
You are on to something, basically CFB data bases take RAW data and complies it
in a crude fashion. You can be much more objective by reviewing the films and
determine the number of "check down passes" Rushing yards aginst a zone blitz.
Defensive results when in a zone blitz, etc, etc.My projectionss
results are BYU 45 (7 trips inside the blue zone) Utah 17 (4 trips
into the red Zone)BYU 3-3 on fourth down326 yds passing136 rushingBasically, BYU Defense simply shuts down the UTES.Poppinga:14 plus tackles. 75% chance Gaskins will see lots of snaps. bank on
Hey, Utes, it's the third anniversary of 2004.Big Bonfire at the U
this weekend.2004, 2004, 2004, I'm a Ute fan, 2004,2004,2004...Get a life...
are the worst in the nation. Is it any wonder why BYU is the most hated school
in the nation? I am a former BYU football player and the team is utterly
ashamed of the goons we have as fans.
You repetitive, tired kittens should scroll-up (might be in one of the other
threads) and read what the former Florida Gator football player had to say. You
sound like a bunch of two-year olds with your same old, delusional, vacuous
rhetoric. Go ahead, check-it out.Yawn. I just saw 4 out of the
last 5 flash before my eyes. Talk about relevant fact.
Let's take an honest look at this! BYU has no conference loses to Utahs two.
The excuse is a Johnson injury the first game. No excuses for BYUs injuries.
BYU won last year, but the excuse is luck. The utes were lucky in their
comeback to even make it close. Win or lose, BYU is still conference champions.
No amount of ute reasoning, whining, or excuses is going to change that fact.
Now we await excuses for the ute basketball losses which are sure to come.
o DATE:Since '99Utah:3 MWC titlesWinning seasons 9Bowl games 6Bowl wins 6Wins vs ranked teams:#11 UCLA('07)#17 Oregon('03)#19 Pitt('04)#21 Georgia Tech ('05)Utah vs
the BCS:Pac-10 5 winsAcc-2Big12-1Big East-2BYU:MWC titles-3Winning seasons-4Bowl games-5Bowl
Wins-1Wins versus ranked teams:NONEWins versus the
BCSPac-10 2Notre D.-1
all i have to say is utah's over all defense is NOT better than BYU's your
secondary is probably better but the defense as a whole...nope sorry...BYU by 10
people were only commenting on the "Conference titles" post about ten comments
up. People were just saying how Utah has dominated since the MWC has started vs
bywho. People were just adding that to utah's resume, by the way your fans bring
'84 back every day
We all know which institution is the REAL University of Utah. Heck, half of the
students at the U are BYU fans! I know it hurts, little brother,
but if you ask ANYONE around the country who the football power was, is, and
will always be in the State of Utah, 99% will answer BYU. The other 1% picks
Snow College! You don't believe me? try it. You want to know the
difference between the two programs? BYU's goal is always to win a conference
championship - first and foremost. The Yewts continue to nip at big brother's
heels hoping to get noticed. But Yewts still have an INFERIORITY COMPLEX based
on the numerous beatings you have suffered over the years, evidenced by that
ridiculous countdown clock you have to the BYU game. Your whole existence is
based on beating BYU; BYU looks to win championships.Until you earn
some respect (and that is NOT by kicking an onside kick when leading 43-0), you
can continue to hide in BYU's shadow. Some habits, particularly when formed
over A 35-year period or so, are hard to break!Go Cougars!
Is it 2004 already again?Man how time flies when you have only one
year to refer to.
There is nothing Holy about a football game.There is plenty to cheer
about when you beat a tough foe. Make no mistake the Utes will be a tough foe.
They are playing great ball. If we come with our A game ... we win. If we show
up with anything less ... injuries included ... we may be relgated to hearing
their rants again.The only chant I want to hear repeatedly is the
chorus sung by the Cougar faithfull ... Rise & Shout the Cougars are on the path
to fame and glory ...BYU 31 Utah 27 as the D shines again
intercepting the utes on their final drive. Go Cougs!
The Urban doormat, eh hem, what did you wanna know about the BCS game? oh, Urban
is a legend, more like history. Sure, Bronco may respect Urban with some of the
similarities you think you find. Unwhittingham obviously respects Crowton with
his game plan of gimmicks. BYU was ranked last year and won on your
turf and we're ranked this year, yes, in our rebuilding year and we're gonna win
at home. Sure a close one, but nonetheless a win. Utah looks pretty
decent right now and BYU just looks better. Great luck to both teams. Continued
success to lil bro, Utah. Big brother will continue to show up and lead the way.
Nothing's wrong with runner up, you're used to it--and we support it. Thats what
big bros are for.BYU 28 - 17
Is giving up only 1 TD in 14 Qs good??????
Tulane, Marshall, LouisvilleWow, conference USA is so good...Aren't
these the BCS POWERHOUSES that BYU lost to in bowl games since the MWC has
started? Since the MWC has started Utah bowl games against BCS teams
are?USC- Carson Palmer's USC(held to 6 points) PAC-10#19 Pitt-
Big EAST#21 Georgia Tech Calvin Johnson's team(held to 19 yards)-ACCOne difference between Utah and BYU is Utah can take care of business in
bowl games against non-BCS teams: Fresno State, Southern Miss, TulsaKeep telling Utah fans how your going to crack the BCS next when you lose 7
Defensive starters, and only return 4 on D.Meanwhile after Utah
finishes 10-3 this year and returns 17/22 starters they will be the real BSC
busters, part II!!!!!!!!!!
You're right about that. It was far more difficult for Utah than it ever will
be for someone else. Great point.
You forgot to add 2004 BCS busters to Utah's resume!Teams like Boise
State and Hawaii can't even do what Utah did because Utah had to be in the top 6
in the BCS to get in, now a days non-BCS teams only has to be in the top 12!PS where is BYUs BCS game and WIN since the MWC started?That's right 2001 right, but what happened at Hawaii that year? 70+ points,
kind of a stain on your program?That game kind of makes the Tulsa game
Does anyone know where the kitty litter is? After we stomp the kitties, we'll
need some place to put the remnants!!!!
I like the utes in a close one only because we're at rice eccles
south.errr...lavell edwards staduim.
Hey Ute fans, take a look, which one of us is ranked nationally? Hmm... I think
that would be BYU. Watch out, saturday is going to be a good game, go BYU!
It will be BYU 28 Utah 24. Both teams are equal in talent but it
will be played in LES so BYU will FINALLY take advantage of the home field and
win. I have watched MANY of these games since the days of McMahon, Wilson,
Young, etc. Usually I get a feel for the talent level being in the favor of one
team or another, but this year there's no difference.Utah finally
stopped the Jeckyl and Hyde routine this year and now they are playing sound
football. I will however go with the boys in BLUE because they will reach down
and get it done. This is all based on no big mistakes from either team. If
there are big mistakes, then the game belongs to the team that capitalizes on
kitty, kitty, kitty!! Oh, that's a good little girl!! Stay there, while I
stomp all over you!! Meow!!!!
Leave them little kitties alone. It has come down from their headquarters:
They're the best!! National Champs!! Meow!! LOL!!!!!!!!
Interesting post (I'm a fellow Ute). Thanks. How can they counter that? Oh, I
know. The '70's, '80's, this and that. Same old, tired dribble. Are we still
in the WAC. Still can't accept Utah having turned the series around and using
same tired comebacks, over and over and over and over again. It's all about
what have you done for me lately. Who cares about when Grandpa Wilford and
Uncle Rick played. 4 out of last 5 is what stares me directly in the face.But hey, they are the real National Champs annually. Shhhhh, be still!!
You're killing me. I'm still laughing. Somebody, please help me!!!!!!!!
Have you ever looked in the record books for the most int in an NFL game?If you do you will see Detmer is there with 7 int in a game!
What happened to Hall for Heisman?
Which is the better trio?Brown/Fui/TongaorUnga/Fui/Tonga???????????????Does anyone remember what
that trio did last year against UTAH???Brown 45 yardsFui 6
yardsTonga 2 yardsByu fans keep talking about your trio, but
wasn't last years trio better? The trio from last year had better numbers! Yet
Utah shut them out!!!!Hall's shore shoulder coupled with Utah great
secondary only means Utah will dominate against the run again!!!!
go Utah!!! 37 to 30
How does it feel that you might, but probably will, win your 4th MWC title?But how many has Utah won=3Now ask yourself couggies what is
your bowl record since the MWC has began? 1-4 Now ask yourself
cougar fans what is your record against Utah since the MWC? losing.Utah can still have a piece of the title but that is TBA, but lets talk about
BYUs awesome dominance in the MWC.To DATE:Since '99Utah:
3 MWC titles Winning seasons 9Bowl games 6Bowl wins
6Wins vs ranked teams: #11 UCLA('07)#17 Oregon('03)#19
Pitt('04)#21 Georgia Tech ('05)Utah vs the BCS:Pac-10 5
titles-3Winning seasons-4Bowl games-5Bowl Wins-1Wins
versus ranked teams:NONEWins versus the BCSPac-10 2Notre D.-1Why do you keep talking about the MWC? BYU has a
horrible resume since the conference has started!!!!If it is so easy
to go to bowl games and win the bowl games against "ave. teams" then WHY HASN'T
BYU BEEN ABLE TO DO IT????????
BYU has a big lead in the 4th quarter and goes for an on-side kick. Kyle gives
a finger salute to Bronco using two hands thinking "fully invest this". Joe
Glenn begins writing a thank you note to Bronco.
I guess Ute fans can get on here and make ridiculous remarks about self
righteous BYU fans but I mention hangovers and working at Pizza Hut and someone
has a problem??? Ute fans...gotta love em...the missing link.
Ute Fans,Don't forget: no alcoholic beverages are allowed in LaVell
All you BYU fans go to the university of utah athletic site and read the press
conference by Wittingham. He said, "that it will be a good conference win. It's
always good to win against a rival." What a joke! He is already guaranteeing a
victory for Utah. I guess he picked up something after all from coach Glenn.If
this doesn't get BYU motivated to play Utah I don't know what will.
To K-Ute. Yes and you would think that Utah should of beaten UNLV (especially
not gotten shut out by them). Give me a break. BYU by 10.
The Cougs have not faced a D like this, the utes have faced one good offense and
got lit up by Louisville (but won). Yes we need trick plays, Not sure why
Johnson can't hit the long ball, he will fumble when blitzed and hit, just throw
it away or short! Hall won't do that and his INT's will outnumber his TD's on
Saturday unless they run the ball a LOT, Memo to both teams: don't make big
mistakes or take big risks score 28 points and let the D do the rest.
Please keep in mind...there is a Las Vegas Bowl and a Poinsettia Bowl berth on
the line, most of the country will not be able to watch, and you will be lucky
if Sportscenter acknowledges that the game occurred. BYU AND Utah fans live in
the past because neither team makes it onto the national scene regularly, thus
you talk about BYU's final ranking last year, and Utah's Fiesta Bowl run. The
past has no relevance NOW. Both fan bases think they would be
perfect for the PAC-10. Do you have any idea what life would be like as a
PAC-10 team? Do you really think you could hang with USC and Pete Carrol year
in and year out? Do you really think you could compete for a conference
championship when you are playing USC, UCLA, Oregon, ASU, Cal year in and year
out? BYU and Utah are both 1-1 against the middle of the PAC-10. Wake up, Utah and BYU fans! You live in a dream world thinking the rest of
the nation cares about either of your teams. Have fun bantering back and forth,
but please do so with a sense of reality.
RE Eric's take, did you even read my comment? I said almost the same thing you
did, I just dont think it will be a shootout. I dont think either team gets
into the 30's, the defenses are too good. We do agree on the outcome though,
utah will win.
Utah Stats per game NCAA MWESTTotal Offense 373.6 yds
73rd 4th Total Defense 310.3 yds 16th 3rd Points
Scored 26.9 pts 65th 3rd Points Allowed 15.5 pts 5th
1st BYU Stats per game NCAA MWEST Total Offense 452.9 yds 19th 1st Total Defense 308.6 yds
14th 1st Points Scored 30.9 pts 41st 1st Points
Allowed 18.8 pts 19th 3rd BYU scores .068 points per
yardUtah scores .072 points per yardBased on the Stats the
score would be BYU 44 Utah 26. This was dedicated to Utah's Defense becuase
they have blinders on when it comes to research. The stats were gathered on
SI.com. Go Cougs!!!!!!
RE: Anonymous (Utah has a more balanced attack)This has to be the
worst post on this thread. Even worse than the one claiming BYU was dominated by
Arizona! Utah has a more balanced attack?! Take your red shades off
dude. BYU has the most balanced offense in the conference by far. Collie, Allen,
Pitta, Unga and Tonga have all been big play makers this season. Have you seen
some of the catches those four, and others, have been making? BYU has to run the
ball because Hall cant be trusted to throw the ball? Did you know he is 8th in
the nation in passing averaging 312 yards per game?! What is Brian Johnson? Lets
see, that would be 84th with 164 yards! LOL! Hilarious! Watch some football
before you post that kind of nonsense.
That stat is meaningless. It is a different year and Utah is a different team.
Both teams line up well together and Utah has a great chance to win.
BYU=33, Utah=31....oh wait, that was last year! BYU=42, Utah=21. The Cougars
win big this weekend! On a second thought, when BYU and Utah play
each other, and BYU comes into the game undefeated in Conference play, and Utah
comes in with at least 1 conference loss, BYU has won 9 out of 9 times!! Just
FYI! Go Cougars!"Beck to Harline= Hall to Pitta!"
Keys to a Ute win:Stick Sylvester on Pitta all night long. Go man
with our faster DBs and pound Hall into the turf.Run mis-direction plays
all night so Pooger fans can whine about being beaten by trick plays and how
those terrible Utes ran up the score on them. It will help them justify the
loss and maintain their fragile self-righteous egos!!!! UTES
I hear Alex Smith is available for the Utah game this weekend.I bet the 49r's
wish they had that #1 pick back.
How much do you take past history into consideration? How much does winning 6 of
7 at LES play into Utah's chances? Does it make any difference that B Johnson
has never played in Provo? Does Mendenhall's success last year give him/team any
additional confidence? Do any of the numbers people keep talking about have any
bearing on the outcome? Its all so confusing!!!!Line of scrimmage
will determine who wins. BYU's O line has under-achieved all year. They've
played as an average group, not the dominant line everyone anticipated. The U's
defense has been sensational against the run while only a little above average
against the pass. I think Unga goes for only 50-60 yards. If BYU wins, it will
be because of Hall's ability to escape and make the big play. If Utah wins, it
will be because Mack gets 100+ yards and B Johnson has a clean game (no
ints).Hall also cannot turn the ball over, because Utah WILL convert
them into points! D Richards and Godfrey could have a big game. Look for Sakoda
to possibly be the difference-maker. No special team help for the Cougs. Utah 33 BYU 34
Congrats to BYU for an unexpected sucessful season.They are much better
than I thought they would be losing all their talent from last year.Home
field means NOTHING in this rivalry.Utah is not afraid and are ready to
bring the house Saturday.Poppinga is going to be run over by a MACK truck.
I would take coach whit over bronco any day. To see what he did with this team
at the beginning of the season losing so many key players, rallying his team to
fight back and win 7 games in a row. Someday bronco will be faced with the same
adversity and we'll then see how he is able to coach. I have no problem with
bronco as a coach, he is obviously a great one, I'm just very impressed with
coach Whit and what he has done with this team. For the record, had Utah not
gone through the injury bug at the beginning of the season, we would have won at
least one or two of the three games we lost, no question! And be ranked higher
The only way BYU can win is to shut down Darrell Mack, Marquis wilson, Derek
Richards, Jeremy Brooks, and Brian Johnson. It seems like both sides have
weapons. The only difference is Utah has a more balanced attack. They don't
have to completely go one dimensional like the cougars have had to do at times
to win. It is sad when you have to run because you can't trust your quarterback
to throw it consistently.
I love the stats that show up!Between the lines, regardless of which
team you root for, both teams are pretty good. And just a few plays (minus UNLV
for Utah) in both being ranked much higher.Wouldn't it be great to
have BYU and Utah jump to the newly formed PAC 12? I know, all the PAC 10 lovers
are laughing, and they should. If these two teams ever got into the PAC it would
take about 4 years of increased recruiting, revenue and exposure from TV and
both BYU and Utah would OWN that conference! Flat out OWN it, like some cheap
shoes from the D.I.Right now, on any given day both BYU and Utah can
compete and beat any team in the PAC 10. The only let down for both BYU and Utah
is depth, but coaching, discipline, etc help them compete.I think
the big difference in numbers between BYU and Utah is that Mendenhall trys to go
easy on opponents. Utah showed they will go for the throat by doing that onside
kick, and trick plays. Mendenhall would have slowed down midway through the 2nd
quarter and let the Pokes back in.GO BYU!!!!
dude i think you have said it best. funny it takes a 17 year old kid to get
stuff right. its true the only way utah can win is by shutting down those 4
(collie, pitta, unga, tonga)
It will be a fun game to watch, regardless of who wins. BYU is not going to
finish the season 0-2, so its an unshared conference championship again!
You have to laugh at a majority of these yewt postings on the board. They wanna
throw out all these stats to make themselves feel better. The funniest one to
me is the rivalry record. If you crunch the numbers it is obvious they are
skewed by a large string of victories in the early 1900's - 1950's. Long before
Lavell revolutionized the game with a vertical passing attack. If you look at
the games played over the past 40 years (modern football era), you will see BYU
owns the series (26-14) with a large chunk of yewt victories coming in BYU's
transition years. For those yewt math majors, that is a 65% winning pct,
compared to a (yep you guessed it) 35% winning pct for the yewts over the past
40 years. For info, for those who want to see the yewts go down in Provo, it is
nationally broadcast on Versus/CSTV. BYU 28 - Yewts 17. PS At least the yewts
can brag about Alex Smith, right? Maybe he should hang out a little more with
ex-niner greats, like BYU alum and NFL Hall of Famer, Steve Young...
Ute fans let's get something straight you can't continually ride BYU fans for
living in the past and then do so yourselves. We constantly hear how the Utes
have beaten BYU 6-7 years at LES. The fact is that will not play any role in
this game it's a new year with new teams. And let's not forget the 34-31 scores,
when we we not get a post from a Ute fan that doesn't bring that up.Here's the fact this year and last the most recent. BYU has 2 conference
championships, and your hoping by some miracle you can share one this year, but
it won't happen. We've won 14 straight conference games and 11 straight home
games. So you can say all you want how much better the Ute program is but that
just isn't the case. Even if you figure out how to beat BYU saturday, we will
still win the conference championship and will still be considered the best team
once again in the MWC. Boy it's sure a shame we got our second choice for coach!
Will you please keep the first choice!
You and I both know that statistics and previous records don't mean a thing this
week. It's whoever has the most heart and whoever makes the most plays.
Unfortunately for BYU, history will tell us that during this rivalry week, Utah
has had the upper hand. Aside from that, I haven't seen a Ute
defense like this since 2004. And I know that BYU hasn't faced a defense like
this all year. Both teams have stellar offenses. The X factor for both teams
will be QB play. Will BJohnson be able to be crisp in his throws and play
better than he did last week? Will MHall be able to do the same and not
aggravate his already slightly separated shoulder? This will be the first
rivalry game for both QB's as a starter. Who will withstand the pressure
better? BYU may have the better record and will most likely win
outright in the conference. But this game will answer the question of who has
the better team currently. I think Coach Whit, Anderson, and Ludwig
will prepare and get the job done in Provo. Low scoring, 17 14 Utah.
I really think this is funny.. wow, i could read these comments all day..
Personally, it seems like there are more "byu haters" than ute fans. Its like
they could care less about how utah does as long as byu loses. well here is what
i think... the only way utah can win is by shutting down unga, tonga, pitta, and
collie. week in and week out those four have proven to be the playmakers. Plus,
BYU's O-line is massive. They shouldnt have a problem with utah's pass rush.
This is going to be max hall's first holy war game so i wouldnt be suprised to
see him make a few mistakes. all young QB's do. but in every sport and in every
game, it will come down to the team who can make more plays on both sides of the
ball. I like BYU in this one.. look for a nail biter like last year- 31-33
anything cougar blue says should be discounted. He obviously didn't watch or
pay attention to the games he is talking about. Utah absolutely dominated TCU
defensively and did enough on the Offensive side of things to win. The Defense
also played well against New Mexico and caused half of their fumbles with the
final one making the game out of reach. Sure, the offense struggled at times,
but they also were able to do enough to win. Both BYU and Utah are playing well
and it should be a good game.BYU isn't any better than Utah is at
this point in time. They are pretty evenly matched as so many posters from both
sides have pointed out.
The Queen of England has a better chance of being the Pres. of the USA then the
Utes winning this Saturday, c'mon now let be realistic, you have not the chance
whether is is a 3-0 game or 1 point game the Y will prevail, better luck next
year, wait a minute Max and the gang will be back again, well keeping on
smacking Utah, we will take another knee this year and game over......lol
Both Red and Blue (tad more Blue this week). May the best team win. Great
game. Wish I could watch it. (Won't comment on the MTN)Let's all
enjoy and not be so childish. Both great schools and both great programs.
Let's be happy who ever wins. Talk is cheap. Winners win.
Sure wish we could watch this game on TV. Don't have the Mtn. Comcast isn't
available, so I guess I'll listen to it on my computer--again--as it is the only
place I can get KSL Radio where we live. Better than nothing!! I have 3 BYU
students in my family, and we are die hard Cougar fans. But this is always a
good game. I'll be SO GLAD when this dumb TV contract has expired!! I hope the
powers that be will negotiate something better next time.
Forget your rash of numbers associated with bygone coaches that recently passed
through town. Bronco has announced that he intends to re establish linkage with
BYU's past WINNING tradition as established under the legandary coach Edwards.
Seems to me some of the UTE staff may have been part of that winning tradition,
and maybe, just maybe, those memebers of the Ute staff brought that winning
tradition along with them to SLC. Infact, Byu and Utah might consider SEEDING
the coaching staff at CSU, UNLV, Wyoming and SDSU so we can all "move up in the
I love how the ute fans love to call the BYU fans self-righteous. When a ute fan
says something stupid and outrageous, its a fact. When a BYU fan says something
stupid and outrageous they are "self-righteous." It will be a good game and a
close game. Goooooo Cougsssssssssss.
Utes by 2 touchdowns..at least. We have a better quarterback, better overall
defense (5th in the nation scoring defense, 4th in nation for pass efficiency
defense, 9th in nation for sacks, 8th in nation for pass defense, and 14th in
nation for tackles for loses). You haven't seen Johnson play to his capability
because our defense and special teams and Mack have done it for us. So brag all
you want about Hall because we want him to throw, trust me. I'm glad the cougs
made top 25, it just means another top 25 win to make the utes look
better......and the Y fans are sooooo annoying. This is a no-brainer....go Utes!
I keep hearing the same old garbage that Utah performed better than BYU did
against common opponents. That's only because Kyle loves to pile it on (some
kind of inferiority complex). The yewts are doing onside kicks and trick plays
when they're already up big. Bronco calls off the dogs at halftime or when they
get up by 3 scores. The bottom line is BYU 6-0; Yewts 5-2 in MWC.
That's comparison enough. Like always, this will be the yewts bowl game and so
they will bring everything they've got. Will it be enough? Don't think so.
BYU by 10.
Why are Ute fans like BYU Better? claiming such defensive superiority? When you
look at the actual numbers (they don't lie) both teams are very comparable
defensively.Total Defense (yards/game):BYU - 308.6 (14th
nationally)Utah - 309.9 (16th)Points allowed: BYU - 18.8
(19th)Utah - 15.5 (5th)Total Offense (yards/game):BYU -
452.9 (19th)Utah - 373.6 (72nd)Points per game:BYU -
30.9Utah - 26.9BYU has the clear advantage offensively, but
Utah has the advantage in special teams and a far superior kicker. That is what
the outcome of this game will hinge on. If Utah can hold BYU to 21 points or
less than they have the advantage with field goals and I would call it 20 - 17
Utah. But if BYU has the same kind of offensive performance they had against
Wyoming (in Laramie), whose defense leading into the game was still ranked 13th
nationally and 1st in the conference even after the Utah fiasco, then I am going
to call it 28-20 BYU. Either way this game is shaping up to be one
for the ages!! GO COUGARS!!!
Come talk about how AWESOME you are when you have won more than 2 conference
titles in the last 45 years. After this weekend, BYU will have won 2 in the
last 2 years, and about 25 in the last 46 years. If you want respect, EARN IT
BY WINNING THE CONFERENCE---SOMETHING YOU COULD NOT DO BEFORE URBAN MEYER OR
I say the team with the better school song will win! BYU hands down, even "Rise
and Shout" was written by a Salt Laker.My mom went to Utah about 50
years ago, back in the day when the fans made the OOOOHHHH with the rapid hand
over and away from their mouths as they were the Runnin' Redskins. And the song
went something like..."I am a man from Utah and I live across the sea, our coeds
are the fairest that you will ever see....Kaiai! I laugh just thinking about
it.Please, someone post the real Utah Man lyrics, if anyone knows
them. This forum keeps me laughing, and I want it to continue!
It's absolutley amazing to me how stupid Ute fans really are, listening to their
logic is like listening to a 3 year old trying to make sense of something. If
you look at the same opponents BYU definitly has the edge. Air Force wasn't even
close, nor Unlv both losses for the powerful Utes. BYU controled the TCU game,
Utah didn't TCU beat themselves, like New Mexico, If it weren't for a couple of
very costly fumbles at bad times New Mexico wins that game, Utah didn't do much.
BYU'S victory over Wyoming is just as impressive over Wyoming, everyone know
Wyoming is 10 times the team in Laramie, they can't do anything on the road. So
brag all you want but the best team in the conference is BYU who will win the
MWC outright regardless of the outcome on saturday. The only reason Utah has a
chance because they get more up for this game than any, and it's more important
for you to beat BYU than any other game, in fact you would consider it a
successful season if it were the only game you won. Utah's defense is good but
the offense is bad. BYU wins
Both teams enter with 7 game winning streaks. I think they are well matched and
should be a great game to watch if it is on a station carried by Directv. Too bad nothing is on the line. With the rewards being a bowl game vs
Navy in San Diego or a bowl game vs Ball state, or a 6-6 pac 10 or big 10 team
who cares. Too bad it isn't like the Hawaii Boise State game this year where the
winner has a chance of sneaking into a BCS game.I love college
football but the bowl situation is a huge downer. Bring in a playoff system!
Quite entertaining to read through all of these posts. Doesn't matter which
team you're rooting for, and it doesn't matter what either team has done up to
this point. It never has. BYU could have the worst record and Utah the best,
or visa versa. Either team is more than capable of beating the other.Due to how intense this rivalry is, the team that will come out on top is the
team that wants it the most and is willing the pay the price to get it!
Here are this years statsRecord BYU 8-2 6-0 Utah 8-3 5-2Margin of victory BYU 12 Utah 11Total Offense BYU 453
Utah 374Total Defense BYU 309 Utah 310Additionally
BYU has advantage in Time of Possession, 3rd & 4th down conversions, First
Downs, First Downs allowed.Utah has advantages in Turnover Margin,
Penalties, Offensive and Defensive red zone percentage.BYU has
advantage offensively in Yards and Points, Utah has the advantage on Special
teams, Turnovers and Penalties. Defenses are about even.Should be a
great game that could go either way. Both teams are on wining streaks and are
playing good football. Pick BYU 30 Utah 24
g-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d. Thats how you spell it. Takes a Ute fan to teach a Cougar
fan...well listen up class...you are going down in P-town on Saturday! I AM THE
ORIGINAL 'NUFF SAID!!!!!!
You don't get to chose your opponent in Bowl Games. It isn't Utah's fault they
had to play average teams. They played who was put before them and have gone
6-3 by your own count, which is more than you can say about your precious
It's funny that everybody is saying that utah hasn't played anyone during this
hot streak that is worth noting...they have basically played the same teams as
byu with the exception of like 2 teams. We are in the same conference the last
time I checked.
Utah's program is ranked ahead of BYU over the last 10 years, so why would Utah
have a little brother complex?Go ahead BYU, think Utah is the little
brother. When the little brother grows up to be better at football than the big
brother, doesn't the big brother get pretty jealous???
Should be a good, hard-fought game. For all those Y fans that think the Y has a
much better team - let's look at MIT grad Jeff Sagarin's ratings. Y is ranked
26 with the U ranked 28. U has a slightly better strength of schedule and a
better Predictor score (described as the "single best predictor of future
games.") So much for objectivity, at least in this fan's eyes, with BJ
healthy, Utah is the better team. If he starts connecting on long balls, the U
will be virtually unstoppable on offense. Also, I love Y fans pretending
that Utah takes the game more seriously. C'mon this is the rivalry game, any
fan, coach, or player who pretends this doesn't matter is fooling no one.Here's hoping to another classic with no injuries to either side.Utah 28, BYU 24
All of you ute fans bragging about 4 of 5 at LES, the Y have won 6 of the last 9
at the rice patty so maybe we should rename it LES North?
I just went back to the 1997 season and included games played up to last
Saturday. Below are the stats (from the MWC website): Total Wins:
Utah (84) BYU (80) Total Win %: Utah (66%) BYU (60%) Conference
Wins: Utah (55) BYU (55) Bowl Appearances Utah (6) BYU (5) Bowl
Wins: Utah (6) BYU (1) Rivalry Game Wins: Utah (6) BYU (4) Take from the above what you will. I am fine with BYU fans routing for their
team, I am fine with last year and the win over Utah, but seriously, it is time
to stop living in the 70s and 80s. You dont have a better football program than
the University of Utah. Maybe in the 80s, but not anymore. Nobody knows BYU,
your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Nobody fears BYU, youre just
another school on peoples schedule.It might be time to live in the
now, and the facts of the now are that for the last 10 years BYU is behind
Utes 24, BYU 20
Yesterday's paper said the Utes have a countdown in their locker room so don't
believe the talk that they don't count this as any game. The
difference in this game will always be the class of the coach and how they
react. Bronco has shown far more class than Whittingham, and I was orginally in
favor of the Y getting him. Going to be a good game as they have
been for the last 10 years. Hope no injuries occur. Based on my experience
over a lifetime dealing with the Utes I think they will go after Hall and hit
him as hard as they can to give serious injury to his shoulder. That is how
they feel they can beat you by injuring opposing players then they sit back and
brag how good they are.
I don't see anything on TV or in the newspapers regarding anything having to do
with the MWC here in Virginia. Its as if BYU and Utah have fallen off the face
of the earth. I did catch Air Force on the tube against ND and if that's the
caliber of play coming from the MWC, then wow! (even as bad as ND is this year).
That TV deal you guys (MWC) signed is a disaster, really!I've read and
heard many BYU games over the Internet and caught two Utah games while I was
traveling in Utah. I gotta say, as painful as it may be, the Utes look like one
of the hottest teams in the country right now. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd best team
west of the Mississippi. I think they'd dispatch Oregon or USC at Rice-Eccles
with some ease. (I mean, who could conceivably beat them on their home field
right now???)I hope the Cougs bring their AA game Saturday, cause thats
what will be required to slow down that runaway freight train from SLC. Come on Cougs!!! Show some pride and stop that team up North! You can do it!
BYU has earned the right to play for a championship. Utah has not. You don't
start the season 0-2 in conference and get shut out 27-0 by UNLV and deserve the
right to play for a championship. That said, Utah has shown a tremendous amount
of character by battling back from a lot of early adversity. The ability to
overcome adversity and the mental toughness it has forged will be the difference
on Saturday. BYU, to its own credit, has coasted in conference for a couple of
years. Bronco believes this game is like any other. That is why he is about to
drop to 1-2 in the rivalry game, despite taking the favorite into the game all
three years. Whitt knows what the rivalry game is about. Bronco, to this
point, has been a better head coach, but that is changing. Whittingham,
however, always has been a better defensive coach and mind than Bronco. How
many times has Whitt giving up 30-40 + points? Even with an inconsistent
offense through the years, Whitt has put together some defensive gems. Whitt
and Gary will out scheme the cougs, confuse, rattle, and abuse Hall. Utes by 7.
Utah ownes BYU in Provo. Six of the last 7 games in Provo have gone Utah's way.
BYU simply gets too over hyped when playing Utah at home and Utah always comes
in with nothing to lose. The problem this year is that Utah truly does have an
outstanding team , especially defensively, and they can hit the big, deep pass
as good as BYU can so although my heart wants BYU my head says its Utah winning
35-28. BYU will go on to destroy SDSU and win the out right conference title but
the enjoyment will be tempered because of the Utah loss. Unfortunately, the end
to the 2007 season for BYU is very easy to predict. Utah will win its bowl game
and finish the season 10-3 and BYU will finish with an identical record after
winning its bowl game. The season, however will be a downer because of the Utah
loss no matter how you slice it.
I love this smack. Let's see Utah play a decent team in a bowl game before you
run smack.Through 2005:Average Victories for BYU Bowl
Opponents: 8.45Utah Bowl Opp: 7.67Average Losses for BYU Opp:
3.14Average Losses for Utah Opp: 4.56Average Ranking for BYU Bowl
Opp: 22Average Ranking for Utah Bowl Opp: 35Yes, Utah has
been stellar in their bowl games, beating:7-5 Georgia Tech8-4
Pittsburgh9-4 So Miss6-6 USC7-5 Fresno State8-5
Wisconsin (LOSS)8-4 Arizona8-5 USC (LOSS)8-3 Washington State
(LOSS)Good on you, Utes. Good on you.
We love our team and our dreamboat coach; he's just so dreamy... We will put a
gosh darn good 'ol frickin' thrashing on those poor Utes from up north. Anyone
who is anyone knows that the best people live in Utah County and root for the
mighty cougars and not that team from the heathen school in Salt Lake City.Go cougars!! yay! We love you! xoxoxo
The Cougars already know that they have a piece of the title. The Utes on the
other hand need this game to even share it with the cougars. I've said it once
and I'll say it again, when the rivalry game comes up everything goes out the
window. All the numbers all the smack talking, both teams are extremely hot
right now and it will be an excellent game. The more consistent team will come
out on top, not the one that shows unsportsmanlike conduct by trying to rub it
in. I pick the Cougars by 7! They're not the same team that we've have seen the
last couple of years, and this is Utah's last and only actual real test of the
To quote "Re:Eric's take, my take" ... "[BYU does] not have a serious
pass attack, [their] game is based on running ...BYU cannot defend a
good passing team ... and therefore I think it will be a complete shootout"Help me understand ... you are saying BYU's passing attack is not
serious? (NOTE: they are ranked 8th at 315.2 yards per game) And you are
implying that Utah is a good passing team? (NOTE: Utah is ranked 77th at 205.5
yards per game).I understand that this rivalry brings out the
emotion but please, your arguments should at least "reflect" reality. In case
you were wondering, BYU's offense is ranked 19th in total yards per game and
41st in points per game. Utah is ranked 73rd in yards per game and 65th in
points per game.
Both Mack and Unga average 5.0 yards a game, so the carries are not relevant!Only difference is: 1-MACK didn't play the first game and
was part of a trio in the second game and still has rushed for more yardage!2-Does anyone remember Unga's best game of the year? That's right, at
home against a 1-AA team! Where he ran for 145 yards and 2 TDs, should those #'s
even be counted.
Memo to ALL Ute fans:You are living a lie if you think you can sneak
into Utah County and end up with a "W". It will not be a last second play to
defeat your team this year. You are going down big time this year. Cougars
rule and clinch the MWC title again. Too bad many fans won't see the game if
it's on the Urr...Mountain Commycast Network. What a joke...this TV situation.
Bronco for president. The Utes got Wittingham, and BYU wins the titles. What
is a Las Vegas Bowl, and a Poinsettia Bowl? The BCS owns all the Bowls and will
keep all the money for themselves. BYU, Utah, need to bolt this mickey mouse
conference and the commissioner. Go Cougars!!!!!! That little team south of
SLC will win....garanteed!!!!!!!!
All you cougar fans asking which Utah team will show up, have you even watched
the last 7 games. They have been incredibly consistent. They have scored
34,44,23,27,27,50, and 28. They definitely had problems at the beginning of the
year, but they are behind them. Beware the Utes and look for a tough game.
Utah fans like to quote 4 of 5 or whatever gives them the advantage. We know you
have the all time record over us here is the real break down by decade.70's BYU 7 - 380's BYU 9 - 190's tied 5 - 500's Utah 4 -
3The U does have the advantage this decade.BYU will tie that
this year and run the table this decade. Take that to the bank
The truth hurts, doesn't it?UTAH has won 5 of 6UTAH has won 9
of 15UTAH has won 6 of 7 in their home away from home.UTAH has has a
52-32-4 overall record!Your right UTAH owns the current 5
year/10year/15year series AND UTAH OWNS THE OVERALL SERIES!!!!!The
truth hurts some times.As for byu97 Utah and byu have played the
same conference Sch. and Utah has had a harder Non-conference Sch. Ask the Hiesman voters who is better:Smith or Brohm?The only differnce is Utah didn't give up 55 points to Brohm!!!
Good comment Jason, now go get me a sandwich before I give you another noogie.
The utes have given BYU problems the last couple of years by getting a ton of
yards via the pass game. 376 through the air to only 98 on the ground in 2006.
This year is no different! In order for Utah to pull it off, they will have to
do it through the air again. The run game will not get it done! Here are some
reasons...BYU is 10th nationally in rushing defenseUtah
is decently at 41st in rush offense (and have won most of their games that way)
but is dismal at pass offense (77th nationally). The queston is, can
Utah pass for enough yards to get the win? Well, neither quaterback has been
able to pass for 376 yet in any game, the closest Brian Johnson got was 322 yds
against a horrible Louisville defense (88th nationally in pass defense) and has
not done it since. In fact, that was the only game either Utah QB passed for
more than 300! If the utes can get it done through the air i believe it will be
close, if not then BYU will control this game.
The game will be on CSTV.
As typical, the yewts only look at the stats that make them look good. Let's
look at all of them:offense:Passing Yards per GameBYU -
315.2Utah - 205.5Rushing Yards per GameBYU - 137.7Utah - 168.1Total Points per GameBYU - 30.9Utah -
26.9DefenseRush Yards AllowedBYU - 92.2Utah -
129.5Passing Yards AllowedBYU - 216.4Utah - 180.7Points Allowed per GameBYU - 18.8Utah - 15.5What
all of this tells you is really only one thing - both teams are very closely
matched and that the game could go either way. Really neither team is
significantly better than the other, and the team that commits the fewest
mistakes (ie penalties) will probably be the victor.Yewt fans that
run dribble claiming they're the superior team really do not have the stats to
back it up. Both are good teams in a really crappy conference, so how much
smack can either really run? Bottom line is, the better teams in the WAC
probably could beat either BYU or Utah.
It is really a shame that the Utes had two bad games early in the year that cost
them relavence in the MWC championship. At least BYU's bad games were against
teams that had no impact on their conference championship. It is really fun to
see both teams on huge winning streaks. I think both teams are so evenly matched
that you need ot look at leadership. While Hall has been almost A Smith like in
his sophomore year I think the edge goes to Johnson. Then on the defensive side
I hate to say it but I think BYU's leadership with Keihl is ahead of Utes.
Should be a great game. BTW as a Utes fan I have to give Keihl props for showing
up to Utah stadium on his off week to watch our game. That was funny and
Its exciting that both are streaking right now, however which Ute team will
show? The same consistent COUGARS will be there. Both teams are
good, BYU is just better. It'll be close. Utah needs gimmicks, BYU doesn't. Mack
vs Unga? not a question, Unga does the same job with 1/2 the carries, as a
sophmore. QBs - Hall's minorly injured shoulder vs Johnson's? Hall is
progressively getting better and Johnson can't throw long with a healthy arm.
Gimmick-wise, it'll probably be an RB throwing long for the Utes anyway. OK,
Utes have a superior special teams. I wish Payne could deliver the hurt like his
bro...OUCH.Urban is history, give it up. Fully invested? If it works
it works. If it was OSU's and it worked it'd still be fine to use. Urban brought
ideas (i.e. clocks, TDS, etc) from other schools. He didn't coin nor patent
anything.Looking forward to an intense game. Anyone in
Mesa/Gilbert/Queen Creek able to watch the game? I wish I could watch. :)BYU 28 - UTAH 17
I think turnovers will be key. I think utah will hit hall a lot and hit him
hard. He has been prone to make mistakes when that happens. If BYU
can keep from committing turnovers I think they pull out a close oneBut, Utah looks good finally. Thank goodness. I think this will be the best
game they've played in a long time.
How does it feel that after this weekend UTAH will have:Won 5 of 6
in the series!Won 7 of 8 in Utahs home away from home!Won 8 of 11 in
in the most recent 10 years!Have a 53-32-4 overall record agains byu!PS how is byu's bowl record in the past decade?
For all those utes touting that Utah's scoring defense is 5th in the nation, I
have two things to say:1. BYU's defense is not far behind at
all.2. Utah's defense hasn't faced an offense as good as BYU's.
Their numbers (Utah's) will drop after this weekend.
First of all, I am a BYU fan. Yes, there are stupid fans for both teams. Some
of your comments are just dumb. Before I get to my main point, I want to point
out a few things. BYU did not squeak by Arizona, they won 20-7 and dominated
the entire game. BYU has outscored conference opponents this year by a larger
point spread than Utah has. Even if you include SDSU, which BYU has not yet
played, BYU has outscored the conference by 91 points, whereas Utah has
outscored its opponents by 80 points.As far as the history of the
rivalry goes, Utah dominated the early years (who cares), BYU went 19-2 from
1972 to 1992 (only slightly more relevant), and over the past 17 years BYU has
won 8 and Utah 9. Utah has played better the last few years, but thats mainly
due to BYU getting over the disastrous Crowton years and Utah being at their
absolute pinnacle under the Urban era. Both teams have returned back to normal
byu better hope for a win because they only have 4 returing starters on their
Defense next year, and we are talking about the D that MADE Paul Smith look like
the best player EVER in NCAA football.Utah is currently ranked #5 in
the country on defense and they have 7 returning starters on their top 5
defense.Not to mention that Utah will return 8 offensive players
next year!As before, byu better hope for a win, which they will not
get, because next year they will truly have a horrible D.And Utah
will Dominate as always!
Here are some of my favorite Yewtah lines:"We've beaten teams by a larger
margin than BYU (except the games where we didn't win...)"We beat an
ailing UCLA at our own stadium (whereas BYU barely lost to a healthy one on the
road! and don't forget Kehl's interception for a TD)"We beat Louisville!
(with a losing record)"We beat Wyoming 50-0! (at home, whereas Cougs beat
them away, something Yewts couldn't do last year)."We've beaten you 5 of
last 6! (Y's beat Yew about 20 of the last 30 and we own the streak!)"We've got a guy who can sometimes run and a guy who can catch (We have three
of each who are you going to defend?)Predicted Score: BYU 38 Yewtah 20
Hope the Yutes keep on reviewing the Tulsa film. Cougars are a differt team in
a differnt time with a different attitude. Hopefully Utah can say the same since
UNLV waxed them. Now for the Now, It will be a good game, lots of hitting and
yardage, at first. But the OVERALL quality and DEPTH of the BYU program will
overwhelm the boys in red. Yeah, there are a few "chinks in the BYU armor"
Bronco knows where they are and they'll addressed by game time. Too many
weapons on offense, and a defense that's second to NONE. Go ahead a play you
stat game and claim the UTE Defense is first in the MWC. The cougars have given
up over 350 yds. in the mercy prevent defense and never tied an onside kick!
It is great that both teams are on winning streaks! Coach Wittingham will have
the Utah Men ready and Coach Mendenhall will have the Cougars primed. Be ready
for a slugfest with Utah throwing against a depleted BYU secondary and BYU
running the ball with all three Tongans. I want BYU to win just to shut up the
obnoxious Utah fans, not all of them, just the ones that are rude, crude and
mean spirited. This should be a great game regardless of who ultimately wins. Go
Why don't you go and look at the national averages efore you write incorrect
info. Ask any player or coach and they will say that the only stat that counts
is the score.UTAH 15.5 points a game= 5th in the countryBYU
18.8 points per gama= 19th in the countryNot to mention Utah has
only given up 1 TD in the last 14 Q's, and it came off an int to the 11 to set
up NM 1 TD!!!!!!!!
Lets face it. Neither byu or utah will win this game by more than a touchdown.
If you think otherwise, your an idiot. And you shouldn't be allowed to comment
about college football. This game can't be predicted. Both teams have proven
there good. The winner will simply be whoever comes out with more fire in the
belly and flat out executes with minimal mistakes such as few penalties etc.
And perhaps a little luck. This is the year of "chaos college football." Its
going to be a good one in provo this saturday. May the best team win.
BYU are bigger than the Utes! The Cougars have a worldwide following. I met one
in Melbourne, Australia last year (wearing a BYU Cougars T-Shirt). And no he
wasn't a Mormon!
Utah has a good team, no doubt. But to those utes asking "who has BYU played",
you've got to be kidding. You're in the same conference, so the answer is
"seven of the same teams that you've played." Non-conference, BYU played UCLA,
Arizona, Tulsa and Eastern Washington. Utah played UCLA, Louisville, Utah State
and Oregon State. Those are very comparable schedules. Against the same seven
teams, BYU scored more, but Utah held the opponents to less.Here's
the difference between BYU and Utah. BYU is very consistent, always scoring
between 24-35 points. Utah, however, has gone anywhere from 0-50 points. You
just don't know what you're going to get from them. I think that directly
reflects the coaching.This is a big game, and no doubt that
Whittingham will have Utah "up" for this game. I'm curious to see what tricks
he brings out. Coach Mendenhall, will have BYU ready as well. Just don't
expect them to be nearly as emotional.Should be a close game.
After Utah wins this weekend it will prove that Utah is the best team in the
conference and that byu was only the healthiest team in the conference.Utah 31BYU 24
All this trash talk means nothing. The game is the only meaningful thing. The
game will hinge on Max Hall's shoulder injury, turnovers, and officiating. Both
teams will be ready to play. Right now BYU can only control turnovers, Hall's
condition is out of our hands and the officiating usually goes against us. We
need some real luck to have Hall heal quickly. Otherwise, we will lose.
I know byu lovers do not give any respect to Utah, but I have a question for
you: If Utah has ONLY GIVEIN UP 1 TD in the last 14 Q's, where is byu going to
get their points from? Utah has the 5th ranked D in the country with respect to
points given up, at 15.5!I am not saying that byu will be shut out
like 2003 but stop predicting that byu will be scoring 35+ points on Utah. Utah
has the best secondary in the conferecne coupled with Hall's sore shoulder. As
for your trio of RBs, Utah held your RBs last to 54 yards of 24 carries
including on 6 yards for Fui on 5 carries, and 2 yards for Tonga....only 45 for
Brown(who is a better RB than Unga!)Ps even with a Utah win byu will
go the Vegas bowl and play Indiana, not a Pac-10 team. The Pac-10 will not have
enough bowl eliglibe teams after both Oregon and USC go to the BCS games.Although it would be great if byu would play Cal because we all know
what happened to byu two years ago!
Have you seriously watched any BYU football this year? Or, have you seriously
watched any yewt games? Your comment about BYU's offense based on the run and
Utah's is based on passing is about as dumb a comment as one can make. Take a
look at stats before making such a ridiculous comment. BYU's stats
- average rushing yards per game - 137.7; and, average passing yards per game -
315.2. Yewts stats - average rushing yards per game - 168.1; and, average
passing yards per game - 205.5.Looks like your logic is flawed,
which seems about right for a yewt.
This is going to be a scary close game. I wish I could watch it.
It looks like everyone is on board with the yewt way of thinking...if the
majority thinks the yewts are going to win, then that of course means they will
win. No need for logic when you tally up the votes. The teams probably really
don't need to play at all since it's pretty much already decided who will
win.I'm bringing my beer and I'm gonna throw it all over the coogar
fans. Watch out mormons, because the classless yewts are comin' to town!!!
BYU statistically has the better defense, actually. Utah has a good D-line, but
it's not better than BYU's. AND BYU has the better offense. The better
prepared coach....home field....better record over the last two
seasons...haven't lost a conference game in two years...I would give
the edge to BYU in this game. Sorry utes. All you've got going for you is ugly
uniforms and emotion. That'll only carry you so far.
Let's be serious. If the "U" were really the DOMINANT Team in Utah, then why
aren't they always winning the MWC? Just because you beat BYU after they wrap up
the title doesn't mean squat. We are in the top 25, and YOU are not. We have a
coach to be proud of who teaches our men about life and class. The Ute's take
after their chosen name sake in the "Savage" form. I admit Utah has a chance to
win this year once again, but will they do it on trickery or will they do it
because they are the better team? That is what is to be determined on Saturday
What is it, 6 of 7 in your house. Yeah, your home field advantage has been real
meaningful throughout the years.
Oh, Utah fans don't have big mouths either!? Please! I was at the BYU/Utah
game last year and I was surrounded by a bunch of big mouth, sorry loosing,
classless yewt fans. I also am very surprised that BYU fans are
picking the Y to win by two touchdowns. HELLO!! This is one of the hottest
rivalries in the nation. No matter what the two teams have done during the
season this game is completely up in the air for either team to win. I watched the NM/Utah game, and I wasn't that impressed with Utah. Sure they
had their moments of good quality football but they weren't consistent. BYU on
the other hand, have been consistent in every game ever since the Tulsa fiasco.
I just don't see how Utah's defense can contain all of BYU's offensive weapons.
I look for Brian Johnson to have a big game, especially since BYUs secondary is
a little weak now, but with BYU's linebackers and d-line, look to see very
little Utah rushing yards, and a lot of sacks. BYU 38Yewts 24
Will this game be on TV or will it be on the mtn?
Trust me this will be a good game. BYU was lucky to win last year. Kyle always
has a few tricks up his sleeve that always seem to work. BYU had better be
ready or they will lose. Look for the Utes to throw the ball a ton. BYU's
secondary is the worst in the NCAA. Go Colorado Buffaloes!
I shouldn't read these things because I can't help but reply. A couple
corrections: 1. to In Response: BYU beat Arizona, 2. to nyron: I think he meant
win out the entire schedule, not just the conference (I made that mistake at
first too). Anyway, when comparing common opponents, why do Ute
backers keep saying things like "minus AFA and UNLV," or "except for Air Force
and UNLV," when those are two games that each team played? By your same logic,
we BYU fans could say, "excpet for UCLA...." Also, anyone who
thinks either team would win by 50 is completely dillusional. This will
probably be decided by 10 points or less. Here's hoping the Cougs pull it off.
I won't be able to watch though as I'll be out of town for it (dang you MTN).
Man cougar nation...how do you sleep at night with that? How do you live with
yourselves knowing 4 out of the last 5? Or soon to be 5/6? Keep on calling us
little brother, k guys? The numbers speak for themselves! Ra-ra-ra-ra-ra
gooooooooo Utah!!! DAAAAAAAA' Utes! 7 out of the last 10.....4 out of the last
Man I would bet my life savings against that line. Shoot I would bet my life.
BYU fans are dillusional. Get over yourself, this will be a good game, both
teams are on 7 game win streaks. Is there something about that that you don't
understand? You are right about utah's kicker. He will be the difference, Utah
34 byu 31.
Isn't it great to be a fan. Utah by five and a Broken hearted couger
holding the mountain title.
Don't forget, Utah beat Louisville in Louisville-- that is a tougher stadium
than Edwards-- sorry Cougs.Didn't big mouth Kiehl guarantee a
victory over the UTES at the beginning of the year-- kind of like that Wyoming
Coach?I'm sure the Utes took notice. Be VERY afraid Cougs! There
will be a lot of RED there on Saturday!!
Eric,Did you seriously watch any BYU football this year? I did and I
am a red-blooded UTE!!! They do not have a serious pass attack; your game is
based on running...which worries me bc we had a tough time tackling that big
UNLV back; however, BYU cannot defend a good passing team (you really have not
seen another since Tulsa) and therefore I think it will be a complete shootout
with BYU running and Utah passing. Special teams the difference...Utah wins
BYU by 18 easy Utah fans your kicker can't save you this time, thats all you
have. NOT IN OUR HOUSE!
Utah actually leads 52-32-4 by Utah's count and 49-29-4 by Byu's count. Either
way Utah has dominated with a win percentage of 62%. Sorry cougar fans, if you
won every game it would take 20 years for you to even the score. The gap is
actually widening between the two schools with Utah winning 7 of the last 10.
NO one has said anything about margin of vicory or anything like that. We may
talk about speed on defense or special teams, or our recent success in provo,
but I didn't see one post on margin of victory. Sounds like you are just bitter
and scared. Its ok, read the posts and see who most people think is going to
win, utah is the runaway favorite. I just hope cougar fans don't start to riot
when utah turns provo red again. I haven't seen any worse behavior by fans than
when I go to provo, freaken cow pokes in wyoming treat me better than cougar
fans. Go Utes! Utah by 5!
I believe the overall record in the rivalry is somewhere along the lines of
45-21 in favor of Utah. BYU may have won it a thousand years ago and won it
last year, but UTAH wins it every year in between.
All BYU fans talked about this year was how they don't care about beating Utah,
it's just another game, and that is all the Utes care about, beating BYU. Well,
upon casual skimming if the comments the past two days, the trash talkers have
overwhelmingly been BYU fans, I mean big time, like 7-1 if I had to guess.
Wasn't it you BYU fans talking about all that "quiet confidence?" The team may
have it, but definately not the fans. Then again, what we say here
has no bearing or validity to what the team feels...so who cares. We are just a
bunch of overzealous fans who use this board to voice our frustrations or hatred
for the other team. If BYU or Utah wins, I guarantee none of us here will have
anything to do with it. The closest thing will be being at the game and using
our voices...but that's it.Max Hall becomes frustrated with Utah's
excellent pass coverage and heavy rush and makes a few too many mistakes, Utah's
offense sputters but will muster enough points due to excellent field position
created by the defense and special teams. Utah 28, BYU 17
Cougar fans have two great things going for them. One, they are great at making
excuses when they don't show up to play and they have 5 days to prepare their
list of excuses. And second, they have BIG mouths. This should be great for
Thanksgiving dinner, but it is doing them no good when they call a win by 20 or
30 points. I will be looking for a cork big enough to shut them up,
but in the mean time most everyone of them is doing a good job putting their
foot in their mouth, so I am sure the Utes will take care of the rest.Look for the me in RED in the soon to be "Not-So-Happy-Valley"!!!!
They did manage to sqeak past Arizona, whose record is an impressive 5-6. Tough
I tell ya.... tough
What's w/the enmity? Are you on something? Take it easy tiger. Losing to us 4
out of the last 5 (soon to be 5 of 6) is not the end of the world. You silly
goose, you. LOL!!!!
It's really going to be a great game! BYU will pull through with a deserved
win. As cougar fans, we live for this rivalry game, despite any national
recognition. This is what football is all about!!!! Go Cougs!!!!!!
Stupid yewt fan here to bring the logical arguments...the yewts clearly are the
better team. If you look at the margin of victory over the teams that both Utah
and BYU played, you'll see that the yewts margin is much wider; therefore, the
yewts are clearly the better team. And, BYU has one victory over a patsy team
(E. Washington). Of course, cougar fans will counter that by saying USU is
lower than E. Washington, but that argument doesn't carry any weight. Look at the numbers guys (minus AFA and UNLV), the yewts are so much better
and they'll win by at least 50 points. And that's a totally logical statement
I've always wondered why so many BYU fans aren't willing to give credit where
credit is do. Utah has been playing great football overall and their defense is
playing awesome. The troubles of the early season are gone and they have proven
their consistency with a 7 game win streak in which most of the games haven't
been very close. I am willing to give you cougars some respect as you deserve
it. You should be willing to do the same.
to the notion that BYU had the tougher schedule.. Who has BYU played??? They
lost to a poor Arizona team, a poor UCLA team, and a sub-par Tulsa team. They
did, however get an impressive win over a SMALLER Eastern Washington. lol.
Sounds impressive to me thats for sure. Sure Utah lost horribly to UNLV and
lost to Air Force, bt Air Force is actually a decent team. Tougher schedule? I
don't think so buddy.
MWC CHAMPS!! DO YOUR MATH AGAIN, MR UTAH FAN. "byu did it 1000 years ago, and
Utah did it in 2005." Who did it last year, 2006? BYU OF COURSE! It figures with
the academic standards at some schools, math may be an 'optional' course.
I'm curious to know when the BYU Utah Rivalry has been recognized as a top
national rivalry by anyone. Someone mentioned a Wall Street Journal article,
but are there others? BYU and Utah fans that think this rivalry is comparable
to Michigan Ohio State, or Auburn Alabama are delirious. The Michigan/OSU game
on Saturday, despite the deflated expectations this year, received a visit from
College Gameday, was nationally televised, had a Big Ten Championship, a Rose
Bowl Berth, and possible BCS title game implications on the line. Hardly
comparable to this so called "Holy War".
The match-up of Utah's awesome secondary and BYU's pass game will be fun to
watch. I hope the Utes shut Collie up, I can't stand him. He has to big of a
mouth. I do respect Pitta though, what a warrior he has become! 21-14 Utes!!!I am glad the Cougars are ranked nationally as well.
That will make the W that much sweeter!
Both teams are very solid but I see more advantages for Utah. I dont think there
will be a lot of scoring on either side. Both defenses are too good. Utah has a more diverse offensive attack and will give BYU some fits. The
depleted BYU secondary will have a hard time with Utah's talented recievers and
poised QB.The utah defense is #1 in the conference against the pass,
#1 in sacks, and #1 in scoring and, obviously the BYU strength is passing so the
will have trouble. Utah's secondary is very solid and matches up very well
against BYU's recieving threats. Utah is certainly better on special
teams and taking care of the ball and I think that will be the biggest
difference. Further, Utah will not spot BYU 14 points again this
year so it won't matter who is open on the last play this time. Utah by
10...Utah 27 BYU 17.
I love to see all the Utah posts, and many of them are from all over the nation.
It seems like utah may be a little more nationally relavent than many of you
cougar fans thought... And florida st going after whit, guess more than just
utah fans think he has done a marvelous job with an injury ravaged team. I think
Utah is the better team, no slam to byu, they aren't bad, but Utah seems to have
a lot more speed, I think that will be the difference. Utah by 10.
Amen, brother!!!! By the way, I was thrilled to see your team destroy OSU last
The odds opened the week favoring the Cougars to win by 4 pts. With the way
both teams are playing right now, I think the final score will be even closer.
Looking forward to a good game. Go BYU!
I am an x-gator and I have followed Utah ever since we robbed them of their
coach. Florida went from irrelavent to relavent and I think utah is following in
floridas footsteps. They are becoming a nationally relevant team. They beat the
pants off of almost every bcs team they play. (Oregon St. is the exception) That
is how you become nationally relevant. Wittingham is the real deal and utah will
be lucky to keep him. Whispers are Florida St. has an eye on him. Utes will show
they are the class of the MWC by destroying byu. I wouldn't be suprised if Utah
hung 50 on byu's slow secondary. Utes by at least two td's.
I live in florida and am a huge gator fan. I played for florida before they were
any good and I think utah is following in floridas footsteps. They are becoming
a nationally relevant team. They beat the pants off of almost every bcs team
they play. (Oregon St. is the exception) That is how you become nationally
relevant. Wittingham is the real deal and utah will be lucky to keep him.
Whispers are Florida St. has an eye on him. Utes will show they are the class of
the MWC by destroying byu. I wouldn't be suprised if Utah hung 50 on byu's slow
secondary. Utes by at least to td's.
Do you really think Urban Meyer came up with the slogans "fully invested" and
"accountability?" Any business school has used those for the last 30 years. The Utes are having a great season considering their expectations at the
beginning of the year. And they might be playing the best football in the
conference right now. But Ute fans, don't hang your hopes on having a better
defense. That didn't help TCU or Wyoming. Also, realize that your defense isn't
any better than ours statistically. Here's to hoping for no major injuries and
that fans don't take this rivalry too far.BYU by 1
You didn't hear? BYWHO is the real National Champ annually. They're the best!!
LOL!!!!Going to the ASU game on Thursday (season-ticket holder).
Should be the best in the PAC-10 all year!!Go Utes!!!!Go
Well, I know the cougar fans are more righteous than anyone else on earth, but
guess what: I've been spit on, sworn at and even given the finger by the blessed
cougar fans... the same ones I go to church with every Sunday. Get over
yourself, BYU isn't any different from other schools when it comes to
football.This self-righteous attitude is what converted me from a
true-blue cougar to a red-hot Ute.
Easy call... BYU 28, Utah 17. Count on it.
Typical UTE fan...I would be curious to see how may top 25 rankings BYU has had
since the "relevant 80's" and how many the UTE's have had. I would bet BYU
doubles them up in that category. Oh...and Urban Meyer dumped your program three
Keep living your Urban Meyer pipe dream. What does BYU's marketing campaign
have to do with the fact that Utah is the second tier team in the state? Your
Utes don't mean a thing to most people outside the state of Utah. Somethings
are true whether or not you believe them.
Even if the Cougs win, their big prize is what? A trip to the Vegas Bowl to
play the 5th place Pac 10 team who could care less about playing in the Vegas
Bowl or about playing BYU.
I will admit that at the first of the year I thought that Utah's season was
over. They pulled it together and had a good season. Kudos Utes.I
am a huge BYU fan and I am looking forward to a great game on Saturday. I'm
glad that I will actually get to watch the game. GO COUGARS!!!!!
No matter who wins or loses, the game means nothing...There are no
BCS bowl bids at stake and therefore no money, the television broadcast is not
national and barely even local, and bragging rights are overrated... There is
always the national ranking now held by the Cougars, but the MWC has been
disrespected all year anyway, so again doesn't really matter.No
matter who wins or loses, the Cougars will go bowling in Vegas and play a
mediocre Pac-10 team, and the Utes bowl in San Diego against a spirited but even
less than impressive Navy team. Hopefully both MWC teams can play well and win
those games!Call me dumb, but even if I could watch it I wouldn't!
I'm going to do something worthwhile rather than watch a bunch of immature fans
bad mouth each other while cheering on their two very good football teams.
Byu - bend do not break defense with an offense that churns out yards and
pointsUtah - very athletic high preasure defense, big play unique
offense.special teams is the only place where there is a huge diparity in
talent between the teams. That will be the differance.Utah 24 - Byu 21
Do you people honestly think BYU is going to score that much on Utah's defense?
Utah is only giving up 15.5 points per game this year and only 12.4 against the
conference. Utah is leading the conference in sacks and has the best secondary
in the league. So tell me where these points are coming from? No way Unga, if
rodney furguson couldnt do it then unga doesnt have a chance. BYU may get 24
points, maximum. More likely 17. Utah will win because of better defense and far
superior special teams.
BYU is the superior team..and they should win by 2 tds. But..so were they last
year and should have won by 2 tds and just squeaked it out at the end. I'm sure
this will be a close game and it wouldn't surprise me to see it come down to the
last play again.
Congrats to Utah for turning their season around and to BYU for being so
consistent. This will be a great game.
Hey AZfan, you're living in the past man. BYU hasn't been nationally relevant
since the 80's. As for the definition of "Little Brother", check out
BYU's marketing dept. this year basing their entire radio and TV campaign on
their last second win over their arch-rival last year. I guess that helps
generate excitement when it is the first win over your rival in 5 years. I also love BYU's HC mimicking Utah's former HC, Urban Meyer with his
overused slogans, "Fully Invested" & "Accountability". I guess I can't blame
him for that, Urban was and is a a great coach. Like they say, imitation is the
sincerest form of flattery. Now tell me, who is the "little brother" again?
Who cares! If you don't win out in this conference, you get no respect
nationally anyway. BYU did it a thousand years ago and Utah did it in 05. Go Utes!Utah 34 BYU 31
With all the score predictions coming in; both in posted comments, in the
office, etc... I couldn't help think of the Saturday Night Live skits for "Da
Bears" and "Da Bulls." With that in mind here is my prediction:Da
Cougards: 57 points, the Utes: negative 14 points... Mendenhall will find a way!
I am a 3 generation cougar fan. My grandfather was the QB on the 1897 BYA
football team and yes they won the state championship beating Utah and Utah
State which at the time is equivalent of winning the conference. The team was
undefeated. As a fan I will be following the game on the radio in
Spokane, WA; which is the best I can do given our circumstances. I
beleive that BYU wins by 3 points and it will be a well played close game. As
fans lets be extremely polite perfect hosts (like Notre Dame Fans) and then beat
the pants off the Utes. Let the game be played on the field.Thanks for
all the years of fun and entertainment even at a distance. Yours
truly,Cougar Fan living in Cheney, WA
The Utes always have a tough time stopping big, phyiscal backs (see UNLV)....and
BYU has THREE of them. Looking at this objectively, I just don't see how the
Utes will be able to stop the three big backs from BYU, and that will open up
the passing game, as it has all year long. To be honest, I don't
see this one being a nail-biter as the last two have (just because of the
difference in the rushing attack on both sides)---gotta be able to rush to win!
To POLYnation: UCLA win a fluke?? Hard to believe when they were shut out of
the endzone completely. "They've played teams that are infererior to the likes
of BYU". Hmmm. Interesting. Judging by that "inferiority", BYU must be on the
same level as the Utes since they have played mostly the same teams. Except for the fact that the Utes beat 2 out of 3 non conference opponents and
has a better win-on-the-road record. Tue Utes have won 4 games on the road, and
the Cougs have won 3. Utes will bring it.Cougs will bring
it.Utes by a td.
Hey reminder, do you think we really care? The Wall Street Journal voted this
game in the top 5 rivalry games in the country, right behind the likes of
Michigan/Ohio St., Auburn/Alabama, UCLA/USC, etc. Maybe few outside
Utah know how great this rivlary is but the WSJ voted it that high because it is
year in and year out the most competitive and entertaining rivalry in the
country. Trying to put your wet blanket over it doesn't change that. Here is to
the Utes making it 5 of the last 6 and 7 of the last 8 in LES (RES South).
I'm nervous about this game, but it is not meaningless on the national scene. In
case you haven't noticed, BYU is in the top 25 in all polls. Both bowls are
great places for fans to go. BYU will not share the title, even if Utah wins.
The Cougars will beat San Diego State. I think I will keep my promise to myself
and not read any mroe blogs.
Utah will win. Utah would be in the running for a bcs bowl if Johnson hadn't
gotten hurt. They came in and beat down my cardinals looking more impressive
than any big east team in the process. I really don't think this will even be
close. Utah by 21.
UTAH football is blowing up!! Back on the east coast we have been following them
ever since they broke into the BCS and it is good to see they haven't fallen
off. Is it really a question who will win between Utah and byu? Has byu had a
relevant team since the 80's? The answer to both questions is no! Get with the
times, Utah is way more nationally relevant now. Utes will win!!
How is it that an injury-plagued Utah outperformed BYU against almost every
opponent? (the exeption, of course, UNLV)Cougars, you all can have
your MWC championship this year, but the writing is on the wall. There's a
reason Bronco was BYU's second choice to Coach Whit.
Again I will remind all of you Ute Fans in Utah... Your team is completely
insignificant outside the state of Utah. Go ahead and live in your little
bubble, but the truth is: YOU ARE THE LITTLE BROTHER of college football in the
State of Utah. BYU has been and will continually be the class of the MWC and
the DOMINANT college football program in the state of Utah...you remind me of
the UofA fans here in Arizona. Always trying to compare themselves to the
superior program in Tempe(ASU). Sure they squeak out a string of wins every so
often, but they will never be a football school. Same as UTAH. Sorry Ute fans,
but it is the TRUTH.
I am not sure why people think the Utah win over UCLA was a "fluke". UCLA is
.500 win team this year, a mediocre Pac-10 team at best. You would think a team
ranked 25th in the BCS would beat a UCLA team this year.
Just a reminder to Utah and Cougar fans...The "Holy War" (a name I hate because
some people try to make this into a religious contest...last time I checked, all
my in laws are die hard Ute fans AND members of the same church I belong to)
will be broadcast on a network that nobody cares about, and there are Poinsetta
and Las Vegas Bowl births on the line. This truly is an IN-state rivalry, so
when you feel yourself getting overly hyped up, just remember this game means
almost nothing on the national scene.
Good job Colorado Blue, that is funny!!! Wear Blue!Rise and Shout! Beat that
team up North! BYU 28 - Yewts 10
All you Kewger fans that think you are going to win by 2 TD's are are foolish.
Utah's D is not going to give up over 20 points to you guys so your offense
better show up and you'd better slow down Utah's pass rush or you're not going
to have a chance. I also love to hear Bronco publicly stating that
this is just another game for BYU. That is the attitude he has adopted the past
two years when BYU was heavily favored in both games. That led to a loss (to a
Utah team breaking in a QB that hadn't taken a snap all season) at LES and it
took miracle last year (and some help from some questionable PI calls) for BYU's
best team in 10 years to pull one out of their hat. If BYU treats this as just
another game, they will lose Saturday. Cmon Bronco, its okay to actually show
some emotion and personality once in a while. Show the world you're more then
just a robot that spews the same cliches over and over again. I
predict the team that score 20+ wins the game. Utes in a close one 20-17.
Dear Utah,You try and tackle three 235 lbs polynisian running backs
for four quarters! We did and look what happened to us. Sincerely,Wyoming, TCU, CSU, New Mexico, Airforce, UNLV,
Arizona.Austin Collie said it himself, that its the running backs
that open things up for the O. Tackling those guys are like tackling a train.
They may not break it for big yards every time, but they are going to be
constitant for 4-5 yards per carry because they drag guys down the field. All
defenders can do is grab hold and hope that someone else helps soon. Defenses
get tired from do that all game long. Then they get torched by the recievers.
Thus, Utah's D will have their hands full. Conversley, a scrambling QB
give BYU's D fits year in and year out, no matter what team it is. Thus, BYU's D
will have their hands full. The difference will be which team's D deals with the
others O better.Can anyone say shootout?
Kyle,Andy,and Gary are going to out coach Bronco et al at LES. I can't wait to
see the stunned 60000 plus cougar fans who are going to be dropping "flip and
"fetch" bombs while tryng to keep their hot chocolate down. Utah will share the
league title with BYU this year.
BYU BLUE...have faith man. I could care less what the Utes are doing this week.
Mendenhall will have our team prepared, and prepared well. The Cougars will be
reigned in, running on all cylinders and come game time they will be emotionally
synchronized. It's business as usual for BYU. Smash the Utes into oblivion and
then prepare for San Diego State next Saturday.
Utah is pretty hot right now. But they've played teams that are inferior to the
likes of BYU. The win over UCLA was a fluke. BYU will definitely be prepared to
handle any trick plays and will come away with a big "W". BYU 41
Unlike the NFL, the college football is a true competition which I love,
especially this historical rivalry game. UTAH 38 BYU 35. WEAR
RED... and Go UTES!!!!
Utah's defense is stout. Harvey Unga won't be a big problem, Hall has to play
steller football for BYU to have a chance. Utah's offense in incosistent, but
can be great. A loss wouldn't ruin byu's season, but it would certaintly taint
it. Utah has the better defense, byu has been more consistent. Too bad the Utes
have won all the games they get up for, and they will definately get up for this
one. And byu by two td's, maybe you are smoking somthing funny. The line will be
3 and the utes will win by 7.
Will BYU fan ever admit when their team has been beat? It seems like if BYU
loses or even plays a close game there is always an excuse. We came out flat,
we were caught off guard, the refs stole it from us. Come on BYU fan. I'm a
Ute fan and we were beaten last year by a better team. Give someone else a
Utah has won 6 of 7 in Provo. BYU has problems in the secondary with their best
DB missing (Quin Gooch). UTah is HOT right now. Max Hall's right shoulder a bit
banged up. Hmmm, this could be ugly for BYU on Saturday.
Speaking of spelling, the word is spelled "d-o-m-i-n-a-n-t" and not dominate.
Please learn proper grammar and spelling before you start correcting others.
Also if you are going to start talking about dominant teams, the
team that has won 14 straight conference games would be considered dominant.
That would not be Utah, that would be BYU. You are right, BYU
should not win by 30. The game will be closer than that.
I remember the game two years ago. BYU came out extremely pumped and emotional
and layed a big egg in the first half. Don't worry fellow Cougs, this won't be
treated like any other game. Bronco is probably trying to calm down his players
to avoid a repeat of what happened in the past. For anyone who thinks this game
will be easy, think again. Sat. can't come soon enough. Go Cougs.
The UTES (learn to spell the name of the dominate team in the state correctly!)
have won 6 of the last 7 times they have played in Provo.BYU win by
30? If I didn't know any better, I would think the fans in Utah Valley are
smoking something funny...
This game will be a 2 td spread for the cougs at least. At home, they
have the better offense and defense, offense by a long shot, and I gaurantee you
that they all have fresh in their minds how difficult last seasons game was
with as good as they were then.. Unlike other years when they
have come out uninspired and had letdowns.IT WONT HAPPPEN THIS YEAR! Their
playing for an outriight championship and they know it. They allso know thats
far more important than who their playing when they get it. BYU
is deeper in all the skill positions on both sides of the ball,( NOT TO MENTION
JUST FLAT OUT BETTER AT THOSE POSITIONS). They will come out fired up ready to
put the game out of reach early on, AND AS FANS SO WILL WE... GET
LOUD EARLY AND OFTEN!!!!!!!! GO COUGARS. W E A R B L U E E V E
R Y O N E
It is defenitly going to be a close game, but Harvey Unga is holding a grudge
and the freshman is going to run all over the utes. Utah don't be star struck
when your not playing in front of 20,000 people, we are coming 65,000 strong so
you better be ready.
Let's be honest. We aren't going to win by 30 (20 maybe but not 30). The Utes
are NOT the same team they were at the beginning of the season. They are going
to bring it. Luckily, we have the home field, which will make a difference,
although it has not in the past.
What do I like about Ute football? Brian Johnson. He is a total class guy that
Utah should be proud of. He's humble and lets his talking play out on the
field. He's a great athlete and has come back from knee surgery to lead his
team. Every play in this game is going to be a war. Can't wait. Go Cougs!
Agreed. Kyle is going to have a bag of tricks ready to go at any moment during
the game. If the Cougars aren't ready, they are going to be in for a very sad
Saturday evening.Though Utah's offense is more "big play" capable,
BYU is yoeman-like and capable of stringing together five consecutive, very
boring, touchdown drives in a row. If BYU is truly read for Utah, I
see a 31-17 type win. If they aren't ready ......Isn't it amazing
that this offense was supposed to be a clone of Texas-Tech's where the QB throws
50 times a game? While the Red Raiders' numbers might look more impressive in
the Sunday box score, this super-balanced offense is much better at winning week
in and week out. If Fui returns next year at 100%, this offense is
likely to have a 3,300 yard passer, a 1,100 yard AND a 800 yard rusher.And that spells doom for the rest of the league, especially when you consider
that the team's QB, top two rushers and top four receivers will return for at
least two more years.Way to go Bronco.
Man-o-Man, which Utah team will show up? In listening to the Utah/UNM game
Saturday night it sounded like both Utah teams were there. The good one would
play for a while, then the team that got shut out by UNLV would come onto the
field and try to give the game to UNM. Except UNM wouldn't take it. The
BYU/Wyoming game showed a strong and steady Cougar offense and Defense. They
played very well even though the game was in Laramie. My prediction -BYU 31 -
Utah 10. BYU becomes the undisputed MWC Champions and then has a leisurely trip
to San Diego next week where the struggle with SDU but still come out
victorious. Go Cougs.
Ruin the Cougars season? Come on. It's an outright Championship - how often has
Utah done that in 40 years? And it's going to take more than a gimmick play to
beat BYU. Is any Ute fan comfortable in putting all their hopes on trick plays?
That's just admitting you can't line it up and win. That's usually reseved for
real dogs, trying to beat someone clearly superior.
Sorry but a yewt win will not ruin the Cougars' season. We already have at
least a share of the conference championship. That's what BYU plays for. The
yewts? They play to beat BYU - their big brother.
BYU has gotta be prepared because Utah has been preparing a game plan for 365
days. Don't worry though, Coach Doman has an amazing counter punch just like he
did in his playing days. BYU by a touchdown. GO COUGS! The difference is they
can't slow down Harvey Unga running or receiving.
Cougs by 30! Utah is good but they haven't met the likes of BYU since they
caught UCLA off guard. Go Cougars!
I'll bet Whitingham and UTAH are not treating this game in the "Every opponent
is trated exactly the same in our Preparation" mode. If we don't have a few
tricks up our sleeves, and continue in the ho-mum it's just another waltz in
Lavell's Statium mentality, we will get beat come Saturday. Any takers?
GO UTES!!!!!! Utah 34 BYU 31. Yes I will be there!!!!
I'll bet that UTAH'S Whittingham doesn't treat this as any other game. I say if
Bronco doesn't plan for "something special" this time out, we get beat. Any
One string that won't be broken is how obnoxious Ute fans are regardless of the