Coaching drama is junior-high theatrics

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  • re: Mike in Austin
    Nov. 15, 2007 8:59 p.m.

    I agree completely! It is obvious that the reporters are trying to make something out of nothing. I would like to point out that I watched Tommy Tuberville of Auburn do an onsides kick against SC while beating SC! Coach Spurrier didn't cry about him running up the score or about some perceived "lack of sportsmanship"! He gave the Auburn coach a nod of approval! Auburn got that onsides kick and went on to score again. Coach Spurrier has also pointed out that it is the job of the other teams to stop him from scoring, and not his job when winning. I think Coach Whitt is an excellent coach! I sense that there is a lot of fear because he took a very wounded team that everybody practically gave up after the injuries from the first game. I thought the season was over after the first game because of the injuries! To do what he has done is simply amazing! I also find a little tweaking the oppononent good natured! I think the WY coach had a good laugh about it afterwards. He will use it for motivation next year, though. That makes it fun!

  • ogmson
    Nov. 15, 2007 10:33 a.m.

    I would write a comment about how juvenile the Ute fans response to the Rock article is, but then the DN screener only allows attacks on BYU or it's fan base. The myopia of the screener is so disgustingly evident that one wonders when someone at the DN with half a brain and any degree of fairness would screen the screener. It must be amusing for the DN staff to sit and watch whomever this person is sit in front of their computer eating ding dongs and wiping their runny nose with the back of their hand. So amusing in fact that they allow it day after day. I guess that is why I won't post on the stupidity of the yewt fans response to the number 1 coaching foopah of the year. It is the number one drama of coaching dumbness in 2007. It is worth writing about because no single deed has done as much damage to the reputation of the MWC. But, alas, like everything at yewtville, if it is negative, sweep it under the scarlet rug, pretend it never happened, and dream you are as classey as the TDS.

  • To Texas Ute:
    Nov. 14, 2007 11:30 p.m.

    Begin by repenting on your punctuation.

  • Hmmm perhaps.......
    Nov. 14, 2007 8:04 p.m.

    If all these individuals calling for the reporters to "let the incident" go would, say, let it go themselves by stop reading and commenting on these articles the reporters would. As it stands, we keep reading and keep commenting so, to borrow a phrase from a popular snack chip, "comment all you want, we'll write more..." If you really believe they should let this go, then start by letting it go yourselves. I for one think its funny, and I enjoy reading all the hot-headed comments that these articles incite.

  • Please. . . . .
    Nov. 14, 2007 6:47 p.m.

    So if the back and forth nature of the coaches was junior high-ish then what do you call Bronco's laying of the men on the Cougar turf while they listened to replays of former Cougar "glory" games? NOW THAT WAS JUVENILLE!

  • Texas Ute
    Nov. 14, 2007 6:01 p.m.

    One would think an experienced football writer would draw on an old time coach to make some philosophy on happenings in a football game. Not an 1840s religious cult hero. Oh I forgot this is a religious site not football. So sorry about that I repent.

  • Excited for the rivalry
    Nov. 14, 2007 5:17 p.m.

    That's it, Utes, get all riled up over nothing, so you can ride that emotion into the rivalry game. Without that, it could get ugly, say 27-0. That works for me, but wouldn't BYU's win be better if you put up your best fight. It should be a good one, if your team shows up. So get motivated with your incomprehensible hate and with whatever lies you want to believe about BYU. And leave no excuses for a tough loss on the 24th.

    It's amusing how a group can perpetuate perceived slights to get so hyped up. But if that's what it takes to get your best game out of you, so be it. Here, I'll help you (just for kicks)--You're nothing! I guarantee we win! We're so much better than you on and off the field. Is that about right?

    Oh, one thing, don't tell your Utes that BYU is scared of the Utes. It might give them false hope. That's just silliness! BYU respects the Utes more than UCLA did. BYU is consistent and controls their emotion. They'll be ready, but to think they will be intimidated is getting a little cocky yourself. Control your emotion, Utes.

  • I Second JBH
    Nov. 14, 2007 4:50 p.m.

    There are many Utah and BYU fans with class. Far too many others, though, somehow think ripping on the other team is the same as cheering for their own. Yet most Wisconsin fans don't think ripping Iowa is cheering for the Badgers. Most USC fans don't obsess all year about NOT being UCLA. They actually cheer FOR their teams and don't seek out every opportunity to malign their rivals--just beat them on Game Day. Sure, a few choice words fly shortly before and at the games themselves, but then for almost everyone, it's all over until next year. Only the few that really, *really* need help (and Wyoming fans) :) sit and think about ways to slam their rivals year-round.

    Many college rivalries are fierce, but you folks are ridiculous. Not even Texas/Oklahoma or Ohio State/Michigan fans act as childish in their rivalries as this gets sometimes. So just a thought for some of you folks in red--and blue, too--Get a life. Show some class. Stop the nastiness. Always ripping on someone else is junior-high-school mentality. Grow up. Get help. And cheer for your own darn team.

  • The media is to blame?
    Nov. 14, 2007 4:48 p.m.

    Great article!

    Whit never put last year's loss to Wyo behind him. You think he needs the media's help to hold a grudge for a year. Please!

  • Jr. High Sports Writers
    Nov. 14, 2007 4:31 p.m.

    Seems like the only ones that can't let this go are the rediculous sports writers. Even worse than these silly acts are the people who blow them out of proportion. Who cares?!? Is there anybody who didn't just laugh at the guarantee, the major blow out, or the sideline "motions." I think the sports writers need to stop with the "he started it" and "he said sorry but didn't really mean it" articles. Come on guys, you don't have anything new, you're still using quotes from Saturday and Sunday interviews; obviously the two coaches, teams are the rest of us are ready to move on. Why don't you join us!

  • Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Nov. 14, 2007 4:10 p.m.

    JBH - give me a break.

    Rock and all the media, you are the only ones that will bring up this "controversy" next year. Its the only way you can get your ratings. What happened to good reporting??

  • JBH
    Nov. 14, 2007 2:36 p.m.

    Re: Mike in Austin. Where are the BYU fans who are "up in arms about this?"

    What I repeatedly see, in post after post, are Utah fans who just can't seem to stop talking and thinking about BYU, even if an incident has nothing to do with BYU. Seems like a case of Y-ness envy to me.

  • Enough already!
    Nov. 14, 2007 10:43 a.m.

    Can we please get over this story already? Geez guys, is there really nothing else to write about? Utah has its home finally against New Mexico this week, BYU has a tough road game against Wyoming, Utah and BYU basketball both have games this week, the Jazz are playing great, and the high school football championships are approaching.

    Its time to move on!

  • Local media stinks
    Nov. 14, 2007 9:21 a.m.

    Mr. Rock, if this is a junior high drama, then why are you still reporting on it!? As far as Whit and Glenn are concerned this incident was over after the postgame press conference......the only ones keeping it alive are reporters like YOU. I guess it's easier to create news than to report on it. Or do you think if you create a big enough distraction then maybe the U won't win out? Maybe they won't run it up on your beloved Cougars?

    You're right - Whit shouldn't have kicked on onside kick up 43 on Wyoming. He should've saved it for BYU whose program we all know is the epitome of class.

  • No prize for Brad
    Nov. 14, 2007 9:02 a.m.

    Doug Robinson's article today was the only response I've seen from the local media that wasn't an attack. Kudos to Doug. No kudos to Brad.

    Brad, Bronco has done a great job of motivating his players using all kinds of tactics. His emotion in the form of religious zeal has been one of his strengths. He is nothing like Lavell in that sense.

    Up to this point, Kyle has been the most boring quote guy in the history of coaching. He has constantly preached that his team doesn't need bulletin board motivation to win. So why pounce on him for one breakdown?

    Previous to the Wyo game and the media-created "soap opera", fans and media both had criticized Kyle for not being emotional enough and for not using real or pretended slights to rally his troops. I guess he just can't win either way.

  • Josh
    Nov. 14, 2007 8:39 a.m.

    Yeah, it's totally overblown in the papers and radio.

    I was there, didn't see the finger, there was a confused quiet over the crowd after the onside kick(probably 10% disapproval, %90 confusion)... But I didn't get the impression the actual game was played with poor sportsmanship. There were few if any personal fouls, very few penalties overall.

  • TheHailstorm
    Nov. 14, 2007 7:56 a.m.

    Let it go media guys -- you have other games to report on. Sensationalism sells but there are other games this week. Report on those--it's Wednesday and you boys are still busy fanning the embers of a dead flame.

  • Media
    Nov. 14, 2007 7:53 a.m.

    It will be the media that will blow this out of the water next year. Just like they are now!

  • Sam D
    Nov. 14, 2007 7:33 a.m.

    Good Article... The maturity level of these Head Coaches has been a joke this past week...

  • Jr. High?
    Nov. 14, 2007 7:12 a.m.

    Would you be questioning Coach Whitt getting his team fired up by Coach Glen guarantee if the on sides kick didn't happen? Why is it so Jr. High to use the guarantee as extra motivation? Any team in the country would have used Coach Glens guarantee as motivation for the game. Even BYU

  • Ray from Roy
    Nov. 14, 2007 7:04 a.m.

    The only thing more Junior High about the whole thing is the reporters from the Des News and the Trib who try to keep the story alive by continuing to write about it ad nauseum.

  • Mike in Austin
    Nov. 14, 2007 6:26 a.m.

    The only ones creating any "drama" here are the reporters looking to make a big story out of a small one, and us fans who will do anything to find a leg-up on our rival.

    In my mind, the real story here is that Utah has developed a killer instinct, and I'm beginning to see similarities between Kyle and Urban. I think that is the reason BYU fans are so up-in-arms about this. One, they're worried. Two, they already have an over-developed sense of self-righteousness which they believe this incident validates their moral superiority claim. And, Three, Kyle is learning to be a better coach every day. Once his coaching skills catch up with his recruiting abilities Game Set Match.

    As a Ute fan, Im beginning to like what I see.