The Deseret News argues that "there is no remedy in place" to mitigate the tax
increase that is feared by Herriman and the west side cities of Jordan School
District. This is massively incorrect, there is a remedy. The west side cities
can control their growth instead of allowing it to continue unchecked, out of
control and at record setting levels. If the city councils of these
west side cities declare a moratorium on new building permits, you can bet the
real estate and developer lobby will push the legislature to find a solution to
the equalization issue very quickly.
Mc: You need a geographical shift - Cottonwood, Skyline and others suffering
from declining enrollment and program shortages have NOTHING to do with things
south of I-215.The claim made by the editorial that the "poorer"
areas not have a voice is absolutely false. No demographics support this notion
- median income, home prices, and poverty rates are virtually the same in the
south end of the valley - it is quite different from areas north of the
I agree that Herriman is wasting tax payer resources by throwing good money
after bad. As noted above, the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals denied their
Motion for an Expedited Appeal, Briefing and Review. This is in line with Judge
Stewart's ruling denying their Motion for Emergency Relief and a Permanent
Injunction, noting that Herriman et al had not established a reasonable
likelihood of success on their constitutional claims (i.e. violation of Equal
Protection). And, these rulings are in line with legal opinions by the Office
of Legislative Research, the Attorney Generals Office, and an unbiased legal
opinion by a BYU law professor specializing in constitutional law. I certainly
hope, that in a sense of fairness, the Deseret News will report on the ruling of
the Tenth Circuit.
This just in. Yet another judge rules in favor of self-determination. Herriman
et al are wasting taxpayer monies jousting with windmills.There are
181 kids in Granite District whose homes would be in the new district. Should
the ENTIRE Granite population thus be required to give permission on our local
issues so that we can take care of our own?Would Herriman (or ANY other
city) feel it's right that my persmission is required before they can change
zoning , fix a road I use, or do any other city function just because it MIGHT
affect me? Any city's immediate neighbors are affected by their decisions.
The DesNews board is 'troubled'!!!! Ye gads, the sky is falling. It would be
nice to see the board give this topic the serious consideration they seem to
believe it deserves. This editorial is pure emotion. Fear-mongering at its
best.As many writers have pointed out, JSD will be split. They have
said as much themselves, preferring a north-south split to proposed east-west.
The arguments by JSD against a split are entirely disingenous and
self-serving.I wish the DNews would tell us who the 'poor' are who
would have to go it alone. Demographics from all relevant studies show the
west-side currently as well-off as the east-side. A new west-side district will
have the same tax revenue per student as Alpine, Weber, Cache and other larger
districts. Are they in financial peril?Critics of the split are
like chicken littles running around raising issues but then ignoring the
responses when rationally and logically presented. BBKing above has it
Please don't confuse us with the facts... we've already made up our minds, and
it ain't for the benefit of the kids! Thanks Legislature!
This is a difficult and troubling issue. But what is most troubling to me is
that while throwing stones at each other, the real culprit is escaping
responsibility. The source of this crisis is the Jordan School District and
their total melt down in projecting growth impacts on the district and lack of
courage and leadership to address the issues. Here we have residents on each
side of the valley angry with each other, while the District announces that of
the $281 million in bonds approved in 2003, they are finally issuing $200
million in 2007! Now the District states they will need another $700 million to
meet the growth demand and they estimate conservatively another $200 million is
needed for critical repairs at existing schools. Can we really trust the
district with this responsiblity as well as the reality of administrering a
district that by 2015 will have over 100,000 students. Where is the editorial
addressing this issue? More important, throughout this debate the District has
not offered any statement regarding solutions to the dilemma. There must be a
change to a bureaucracy that created this mess.
The financial concerns on the west side are valid. However, where the west side
is looking to fulfill those responsibilities is not. The construction of new
schools on the west side is a result of the tremendous new home construction on
the west side. Nearly everywhere (except Utah) has a fee on new home
construction called "impact fees." These fees offset the cost of new schools
being built. Afterall, that is the source of the need for new schools. It is
not appropriate to fund new schools from existing neighborhoods. The new home construction companies and developers are getting away "scott
free" without paying their fair share. Secondly, Jordan School
district will need to be split...it is completely unwieldy. One can not make
any change in an organization that large -- and there is certainly no
personalization of educational needs. VOTE yes to the split.
Wait until the east side kids grow up and have to live on the west side to
afford a home. They will have a huge tax burden to educate the grandchildren of
those who want to shed the west side now. They can thank their parents for
that. They may also find that they have fewer options in their east
side high schools. They have programs now that are used by west side students
who must travel to Skyline, Cottonwood, etc. There may not be enough students
on the east side alone to keep those programs going, so they will be eliminated.
With open enrollment some east side schools depend on west side kids to keep
their numbers high enough to even remain open. Cottonwood High School would
have closed years ago without the students who are bused from the west side.
A district of 80,000 students growing to 104,000 students in the next few years
deserves to be split. Research shows mid-size districts of about 30,000
students are the most efficient. That's what we're creating on the east side.
Plus, if a new district is not created, the east side communities will be
exporting $400 million, plus another $300-$400 million in interest to build
schools on the west side, with very little return investment. Even last night
Superintendent Newbold and the JSD were discussing how they are dropping needed
east side renovation projects to build more schools on the west side. This is
why a new school district needs to be created. The needs are just too different
on the two sides of the district.
At some point in time the district will be split. No matter what happen in
November. A split now is a progressive proactive move. The sky won't fall,
teachers will not lose their jobs, aliens will not land from space but more
manageable districts will evolve. That benefits everyone.
The exponential growth on the 'west side' should not be shouldered, financially,
by those in established areas on the 'east side'. New schools will need to be
built in disproportionate rates on the west side, while schools on the east side
will start closing down because the west side's immediate needs will be top
priority. A smaller district will best meet the needs of both parties, both now
and in the future.
I appreciate the Deseret Morning News opposing this split. It's ridiculous on
so many levels. There are too many risks and students will be the real losers
on this. I plan to vote no. Thanks for reaffirming my decision.
Herriman and Riverton areas will be hurt the most if the district division is
stopped. They will not be able to get the schools they need AT ANY PRICE
without the vote of the east side. THEY are the ones that need the split the
most, so that they can self determine their own future.
Can someone please explain to me how hiring one or more school district
administrators at over $100,000 per year or many times that to hire all of the
new administrative staff to run new school district(s) and build new district
offices and buy new bus fleets and ..... will help even one student. Looking at
the area within the current Jordan District boundaries, people are talking about
spending millions more, and not doing one thing to actually reduce class size,
reduce teacher load, etc. If this idea were about improving education, we would
be looking at consolidating districts and putting more of our money into
teachers (where the rubber hits the road), not administrators (many of whom
wouldn't know a student if it fell on them). What this vote WILL teach the
children is that their parents do (and, therefore, they can) worry most about
the three things identified by Captain Hook: "Me, me, me, me. My, my, my, my.
Now, now, now, now."
If you keep doing what your doing, you keep getting what you are getting.By all means, let's keep doing what we are doing. Change is always bad!