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Laura Seitz, Deseret News
Brian David Mitchell is escorted into federal court for his trial in Salt Lake City on Friday.

Editor's note: Deseret News reporters have provided line by line transcripts of much of Wanda Barzee's testimony. This is her testimony from Friday.

SALT LAKE CITY — Wanda Barzee returned to the witness stand Friday to testify in her husband's kidnapping trial. He is accused of kidnapping Elizabeth Smart. Court resumed at 8:34 a.m.

Clerk: All rise please. Court is in session you may be seated.

Judge: We're here in the case of United States v. Brian David Mitchell. The United States is represented by Felice Viti, Diana Hagen and David Backman. The defendant is present, represented by his counsel Robert Steele, Wendy Lewis, Parker Douglas and Audrey Cook. Sorry. Audrey James. I guess you can call me whatever you want. Let's get the jury.

Clerk: Please rise for the jury.

(Jury enters courtroom at 8:37 a.m.)

Clerk: You may be seated.

Judge: Good morning ladies and gentleman of the jury. Thank you for being here promptly. We appreciate your work. Mr. Mitchell you have constitutional right to be present unless you waive that right and continue to sing. (Mitchell is singing Christmas carols.) We'll ask that he be removed to the room where he can see and hear us. We'll proceed as soon as Mr. Mitchell gets to the room where he can see and hear us and Ms. Barzee is brought in. You will resume the stand, Ms. Barzee and you are still under oath. You may proceed Mr. Steele.

Defense attorney Robert Steele: Thank you your honor. Good morning Ms. Barzee.

Wanda Barzee: Good morning.

Steele: You currently are being treated for mental health problems?

Barzee: Yes.

Judge: Speak up and talk right into the microphone please.

Steele: What treatment are you getting?

Barzee: I see a weekly psychiatrist. I was on Zyprexa, an anti psychotic medication. I was on a anti-depressant in the morning and a sleeping pill at night.

Steele: Do you feel really good?

Barzee: The Zyprexa has been discontinued and I've been having trouble sleeping and I don't think the Trazadone is doing much good.

Steele: But you're feeling well this morning?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: When that microphone makes that popping sound, you are sitting too close.

Barzee: OK.

Steele: You're not being held in prison in Utah?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Where are you being held?

Barzee: Cardedell Medical Center, Ft. Worth Texas.

Steele: You were arrested in March 2003?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: How soon after were you treated for mental illness?

Barzee: I was told I had a mental illness, but I didn't see it at the time. It think I was at the Utah State Hospital about six years before I started talking an anti-psychotic and that's when I became competent.

Steele: So that helped you?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: What other support did you receive at Utah State Hospital?

Barzee: When I realized I have a mental illness, my psychiatrist helped me for a while until Jenny was found. And then I worked with her once a week. Also, then I recognized I was depressed and they gave me an antidepressant and I was on that until I was taken to the federal prison.

Steele: You spent a lot of time talking about this case with Jenny, your therapist?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: To help you get through?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Do you believe Mr. Mitchell has had mental health problems?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Do you believe Mr. Mitchell believes in his religious ideas?

Prosecution: Objection!

Judge: Rephrase.

Steele: I'll come back to that, that's probably better set up. We left off yesterday in your journey through the land and you talked about organ recitals.

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: How big an event were these to you?

Barzee: Well, I um I'm not sure. I was just trying to be obedient and uh I realized that my inadequacies that I was told that those organ recitals were that they were a foreshadow of what was to come in a future day in the season thereof.

Steele: Were you proud of having given those recitals?

Barzee: Yes. I didn't have a college degree and I saw the Lord's power open up the way to make that possible.

Steele: If, um, what has been admitted?

Judge: Yes, has it been admitted?

Steele: What is this a copy of the whole book?

Barzee: It's a copy of the journey of Brian and I's journey through the land.

Steele: And you wrote this book?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: What is the page in front of you?

Barzee: The music of the program that I played at the recital.

Steele: And at the top it lists an, it lists … Eletta Shirl as the organist. Who is that?

Barzee: When we built the handcart in the Santaquinn mountain, he said we needed a name change and I was called Eletta and he was called David.

Steele: Were you trying to trick anyone or hide from anyone?

Barzee: No.

Steele: This particular handbill, what was this for?

Barzee: The Lutheran Church of the Holy Communion.

Steele: Where was that?

Barzee: Nov. 8, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Steele: The program was the same at each of the three?

Barzee: Yes, the first two.

Steele: And Bach that standard organ fare?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Who is your favorite composer?

Barzee: Johann Sebastian Bach.

Steele: There are three others there and I'm not sure how to pronounce them. Who are they?

Barzee: I'm not sure how to pronounce them either.

Steele: They appear to be Mesag, and Messian. Who are these people?

Barzee: They wrote wonderful music that was new horizon music Dr. Bush took me on.

Steele: Did it take you a while to play their music?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Were you proud of your performance as a musician?

Barzee: Yes.

Visiting Hawaii

Steele: In addition to the places you have already named, you also went to Florida and California on that trip?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And you went to Hawaii, isn't that true?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: How did that come about? You can hitchhike to Hawaii?

Steele: Before we went into Boston, Philadelphia and New York City … our hitchhiking ended and we started taking the train and the bus and

Steele: But how did you get to Hawaii?

Barzee: We um I think we after the organ recital in New York City, we were commanded to go to Ft. Meyers Florida where we spent seven weeks for healing and relaxation and from there we got the money to take a bus to Los Angeles, Calif., and we stayed in a homeless shelter and the commandment was to go to the Welfare Services and we reported in there we waited there all day and told them of our desire to go to Hawaii and they gave us the funds to go. They gave us I don't know how much money and we went to Hawaii and spent three weeks.

Steele: What did you do in Hawaii?

Barzee: We stayed I can't remember the campground, but it was walking distance to the Hawaiian temple.

Steele: Did you spend time at the temple?

Barzee: We went to the temple and went to the visitors center there and there was a missionary to who talked to us for a great deal of time.

Steele: How did you get back?

Barzee: By ministering and getting the money to get back. When Brian started the journey through the land and was instructed to get 300 dollars and we could only get $100 dollars and Brian made a "please help" sign and that's what we used until we got to the Santa Clara mountains.

Steele: What does the phrase "ministering to the poor" mean to you?

Barzee: Brian referred to it as the humble followers of Christ would open up their hearts and give of their sustenance.

Steele: When did you get back to Salt Lake from your trip?

Barzee: When we went journeying through the land?

Steele: Yes I'm sorry.

Barzee: We were journeying during these recitals and going to Hawaii for 20 months before we came back and the Lord said we had a work to do among our families.

Steele: Would it have been spring or summer of 1997?

Barzee: Sounds about right.

Steele: Where did you live at first when you came back into town?

Barzee: Brian's mother provided a room for us in her home.

Steele: Did you live with your own mother also?

Barzee: I think we stayed with my own mother for about three weeks. I don't know if it was …

Steele: What did you do during this time?

Barzee: I would go downtown with Brian and stay at the library or wait my time out at the ZCMI Center.

Steele: What were the two of you doing at the library?

Barzee: He would minister on the streets. I would practice writing recipes.

Steele: Practice your calling?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: What was he doing in the library?

Barzee: He didn't come to the library very often, then I'd meet him to go home.

Steele: Did you reinvolve yourself with the LDS Church?

Barzee: No.

Home in mountains

Steele: At some point that summer did you purchase a teepee?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: How did you get the teepee?

Barzee: I don't remember how Brian located it, but he asked somebody to make it out of their home who live close by. I thought it was Brian's father's home.

Steele: How big was the tepee?

Barzee: I think it was 19 feet in diamater, about.

Steele: What did you do with the tepee?

Barzee: Brian's dad is the one who ended up paying for it for us. We were instructed to have a place of refuge in the wilderness, to have a tepee made.

Steele: Did you take it up into the mountains? How hard was that?

Barzee: It was hard.

Steele: Where in the mountains did you set up the tepee?

Barzee: In an open area. I'm not aware of the location very well, but it was as high in the mountains as we could get. It was on a flat surface and within walking distance to water.

Steele: Was it in same area as you were in 2002?

Barzee: We had to locate to a higher campground and tore the teepee away.

Steele: But it was below that site, nearby in the same canyon?

Barzee: Yeah probably.

Steele: Do you remember how far away the higher campground was from the other place?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Do you remember if Brian was working on the manuscript that summer?

Barzee: He was working. He would wake up before we while we were staying in Brian's … home. He would be awake at nights, doing jumping. He had restless legs. He came up with eight revelations. He called in the Book of Immanuel.

Steele: You observed him getting up and doing this?

Barzee: No. I was asleep. he would tell me about revelation coming forth in the morning.

Steele: Were you aware of him getting up at night?

Barzee: We get up at night all the time.

Steele: Were you aware of anything he was doing while he was up at night?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Do you remember around that time setting up a study group, the two of you?

Barzee: We were at my mother's and he needed to write a, I can't remember the name of it. I think he called it "Seven Plus One Fellowship of Christ" or something. That's what he was trying to set up.

Steele: What do you remember about Seven Plus One?

Barzee: That he listed seven books in the LDS Church. … As part of the seven books there was a book of Isaiah and The Final Quest that Frank Desalvo gave us. And the Plus One was my music, sacred inspired music.

Steele: Was there a book by Betty Eadie?

Barzee: Yes. Embraced By Their Light.

Steele: Did he ask something of your mother?

Barzee: Yes. He was having trouble with some kind of name or something. My mother came up with the name of it. I don't think she felt good about it. Brian wanted to hold a meeting at her house. I don't think she felt good about it.

Steele: When did you change your customary dress into robes?

Barzee: I can't exactly remember. I thought maybe after Sept. 11, 9/11.

Steele: Did you on your journey through the land, what kind of clothing were you wearing?

Barzee: Regular street clothes. I felt impressed not to wear pants any more. I wore a jumper.

Steele: Do you remember when you started traveling in robes?

Barzee: No. I know that when we went to Miami we were dressed in robes then.

Steele: The first time in Florida on the journey through the land, what city were you in then? Was that in Fort Meyers?

Barzee: No.

Steele: When were you in Miami, wasn't that through the journey through the land?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And you were wearing robes at that time?

Barzee: We had been cast out from family. We went down to Orem, Dr. West that had an academy of lymphology. We were put up in a home for seven months. That's where Brian built the covered handwagon.

Steele: Did you write other books?

Barzee: I had other journals. I wrote in a blue journal, back and front. But I don't know what happened to them.

(Defense exhibit O)

Steele: Do you know what that is? Do you recognize that?

Barzee: Yes. That's the covered wagon that we built at Dr. West's.

Steele: Is that one of your journals?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: You wrote that?

Barzee: Yes.

(O is received)

Building handcart

Steele: You already talked about this, but this is the handwagon on the cover?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Where were you when you built that?

Barzee: Dr. West's house. It was built on the back porch.

Steele: How long did it take you to build it?

Barzee: I can't remember. We were there about seven months. I don't remember at what point Brian started or ended it.

Steele: You had a hand in making it?

Barzee: I watched him.

Steele: Were you responsible for the top, cover? Who made it?

Barzee: I don't remember. Brian found somebody that made the canvas cover for the handwagons.

Steele: So seven months. Let's got to the first page of this. The first thing I want to ask you, that's an example of your calligraphy?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: You taught yourself to write left-handed?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: I can't even do that well righthanded. Did you say how long it took to be able to do that?

Barzee: I even wrote the program for the first organ recital. I wrote that program also. People would send me invitation s in the mail, wedding invitations. I just took up what I liked and learned how to write.

Steele: What were you doing while living at the Wests?

Barzee: I would play the piano sometimes. I mostly watched Brian build the covered handwagon.

Steele: When you weren't playing the piano or watching him build the covered handwagon, what did you do?

Barzee: Watched TV, wrote a lot of journals then.

Steele: Did you leave the house, you and Brian?

Barzee: … go into town.

Steele: What would you do in town?

Barzee: We'd minister.

Steele: Did there come a time when something happened at the Wests that changed what was going on?

Barzee: I don't remember any real detail. I know there were problems and Dr. West admired the covered handwagon and I can't remember the situation but we left the West's house early in the morning without waking them.

Steele: Disagreements about lymphology or what Dr. West was doing?

Barzee: Dr. West was always trying to get Brian to come back to work at the academy. Brian tried to convince him that he had his own mission, too.

Steele: Was it possible a disagreement arouse over things like that?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Were you confronted while there by any of the Wests?

Barzee: I remember playing the piano once and I think it was late after we came back after the covered handwagon and at Miami. I'd play the piano or something and they ended up locking the keyboard on me. I can't remember what was said, something was bent and (someone said) sorry you offended me, sorry I offended you. Anyway, John and May, there was something had come up about their children, I don't know what it was.

Steele: Who was living in the home at that time? Do you remember?

Barzee: I think Karl West, their son, and Ben.

Steele: I interrupted you, I'm sorry.

Barzee: Karl had his son with him. I think he had visitation with his son.

Steele: Did you have conversations with Carl?

Barzee: Yes. He would be interested in my testimony and the things we would do.

Steele: So you ended up leaving? You described leaving in the middle of the night or was it early in the morning?

Barzee: We left early in the morning, pulling the covered hand wagon.

Steele: Do you remember what date that was

Barzee: No I don't.

Steele: Does August 15, 1998 ring a bell?

Barzee: Yes I figured it was when we left on our journey.

Steele: August '95 was the first one, right? So three years later you're on another journey? If we could play exhibit F which has been admitted.

(video of them pulling cart in road)

Steele: Do you recognize that?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: What is being shown there?

Barzee: Brian and I pulling the covered hand wagon.

Steele: Had you ever seen that video before?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Why were you dressing that way?

Barzee: Brian said it was to separate us from the world and he said that he gave them a son for it but said it should never be spoken of. He said it meant spirituality.

Steele: Did you go on a journey when you left the West's with the hand wagon?

Barzee: Yes. We traveled through Utah Valley and up north and um, we took a four days journey across the desert and uh we ended up bequeathing the wagon to a small town in Idaho.

Steele: You pulled it to a small town in Idaho?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Was it across the border in Idaho?

Steele: How many days?

Barzee: We pulled it for about three weeks.

Miami journey

Steele: What did you do after that? Did you return to Salt Lake City?

Barzee: Yes we did. We felt the Lord commanded us to go to Miami, Florida.

Steele: And how did you get more money?

Barzee: We ministered. We needed new garments and I don't know how we got new garments. I think we went to my mothers and she sewed them for us.

Steele: How long were you in Miami?

Barzee: About six months.

Steele: And what did you do in Miami?

Barzee: We started dressing like … with just a loin cloth and he would go into Miami Beach and minister.

Steele: Where were you living?

Barzee: We were staying on an 80-acre farm or park that was surrounded by a wooded area. That's where we state for 6 months.

Steele: Did you have a special name for that area?

Barzee: Not that I remember.

Steele: And what did you do during this time?

Barzee: I would stay at camp sometimes but sometimes I would go into Miami with him.

Steele: What was a typical day like? You would get up. What would you do?

Barzee: We would have our fruit to eat for breakfast and I would go to library square with Brian sometimes and …

Steele: You said fruit. Did you have special diet?

Barzee: Not at that time when were first journeyed through the land. We had a fruit diet for 14 months.

Steele: And how were you doing that?

Barzee: We studied teachings … we wanted to cleanse the inner vessel of our body

Steele: Did you have religious observances, if not daily, throughout the week?

Barzee: No. When we journeyed through the land on Sunday Brian would still minister and pass the sacrament to me.

Steele: And what did that consist of?

Barzee: Singing a hymn, a sacrament hymn, and prayer, and then he would minister sacrament to me.

Vision of hell

Steele: Was there some kind of disaster that befell you in the woods?

Barzee: Yes in Miami

Steele: Yes what happened?

Barzee: It was about 2 ½ weeks before we left but I had a vision that around the month we left — I think it was April of — anyway, um, we were told that after we left, we went to spend a month in Washington, DC, before we returned to Salt Lake City, and Brian would go into town and minister for the bus fare and I had a vision of seeing the depths of hell. The depth of hell and uh, I was told that I would suffer, that I would suffer Satan's power in the minutes, days and months ahead of me and I didn't know what that meant. But I was feeling like I was supposed to stay at camp and I went into town with Brian the night before and miraculously a wonderful Subway sandwich was provided for me and I stayed at camp the next day while Brian went to minister and as I'm writing in my journal the couple of visions I had and I thought I heard a fire truck or something going on the road and turning on the road to the park. I tried to look through the trees and I couldn't see anything so I sat down to write again but there was a helicopter that flew over top of my head, through the trees and I thought we'd been discovered and I heard the tent and heard other crackling sounds of burning and I walked out of the tent by the toilet bucket and could see the whole field on fire and that alerted me to the danger. And I didn't know what was happening. I just prayed to the Lord that he give me the strength to carry the two trunks and one of them was too heavy. I got it over and fell there in the entry way and I couldn't lift it and I had to leave the trunk. I turned back and saw the flames as high as I was. And the woods around us would have been the first to burn and the only smoke that was in our area was in the entrance way and small flames were burning on the side and I prayed to the Lord that he would give me the strength to walk out without being burned and I saw the police and fire trucks and everybody was there and I wasn't alerted to anything.

Steele: But you got out safely?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did you return after the fire was out?

Barzee: Yes. Miraculously our possessions weren't burned and the woman who was driving the rescue truck drove me to the campground and she had given me 10 dollars. Originally, she gave me just the bus fare but her chief gave her 10 dollars to give to me. And I went to find Brian and then she pulled up and said they got our bedding and tent and she wanted me to fold it up. All our belongings were still at the Penny campground that was nearby and I went to find Brian and he was surprised to see me dressed in the blue tunic we wore at camp. I wasn't dressed in the nice tunic we wore when we were ministering and we went back and couldn't get our belongings from the Penny campground. And we couldn't get by and he want back to assess damage the next day and said there was no damage to the campground and said we would stay there until we would leave.

Steele: What did he say that all meant?

Barzee: I can't remember.

Steele: What did he think? What did he say that all meant?

Barzee: He … I can't remember.

Steele: What do you think about all that, that nothing was harmed?

Barzee: Was …, didn't want go back and stay there. He gave me priesthood blessing, I was told that Satan came there in his fury seek my destruction but I'd been preserved.

Steele: You talked about priesthood blessing at times, did he give you one after the dream about the depths of hell?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did that help you?

Barzee: I was told that Satan would seek my destruction and that I had this dome of protection around me, even as Betty … had around her. That event, how I experience Satan's power, that I would not be destroyed.

Steele: Didn't that calm you down at that time?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Sometimes his blessings weren't so calming to you, they upset you?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: But there were times it made you feel better?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: After you went to Washington, D.C., you returned home in spring of '99?

Barzee: I think so.

New names

Steele: When did you acquire new names?

Barzee: We were still going by name of Eletta and David?

Steele: Did you ever go by another name later?

Barzee: Yes on 7th of November of 2000, Brian in priesthood blessing told me that the keys of Lord's kingdom transferred to his shoulders and that he was righteous right hand of Lord. And I can't remember what else he said, called me as Relief Society President if I wild accept job. And I didn't understand, and that's when he came up with what was supposed to select religious hymns that pertained to Zion coming forth.

Steele: Did you do that?

Barzee: Yes I did.

Steele: Did you create book of hymns?

Barzee: Yes I did.

Steele: You said Relief Society president. Was that Relief Society president in the LDS Church?

Barzee: Not in church. But the Lord gave Brian his plan.

Steele: Did you give church a name?

Barzee: I think the name was the Church of Jesus Christ and sanctified in last days.

Steele: This was time you acquire new names?

Barzee: Just about.

Steele: What were those names?

Barzee: Hepzibah and Immanuel.

Steele: Those were names you went by at the time of your arrest?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Although you would from time to time under other names when confronted by …?

Barzee: I think I usually used the name Hepzibah but I think when, yeah I guess …, I don't remember.

Steele: When you returned in spring of '99, what did you do then? Where were you staying when you came back?

Barzee: We came back to Miami from D.C. and still stayed in home of Irene Mitchell. In Miami we were commanded to build a hand house.

Steele: Describe this hand house that you actually built.

Barzee: It was height of plywood, I think. I don't know what size that is — height and width of plywood. It had a storage area in the floor. It was tall and it had …, Brian found little tiny wood burning stove, and it had a chimney on the roof and a pitched roof. And I know it was tiled, and it was too large.

Steele: Let me do something at this point

(exhibit X)

Steele: Is that it?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: I would move for admission of exhibit Y.

(exhibit Y received into evidence)

Steele: X was view of outside of hand house. What is this?

Barzee: That's the inside. There were some beautiful flowered curtains besides white ones that are missing now.

Steele: did you make those curtains?

Barzee: yes I did.

Steele: Where did you make this house?

Barzee: At Irene Mitchell's house, Brian's mother.

Handcart accident

Steele: At some point you set off on a trip with the handcart, too?

Barzee: I didn't think I was going pull it very long, I had feeling. We left Brian's mother house on Christmas Day pulling it. We got it somewhere near Cottonwood Hospital, pulling the handcart and covered wagon up and down hills. We knew how that was different, hadn't had car tires on it and an axle. We knew how heavy that was going to be. The hill we had to go down, we didn't think we could hold it back. Somehow Brian felt we needed to go down the hill and put our trust in the Lord, he would give us strength. I couldn't hold it back. I tripped and fell. I was run over by one of tires, so run over by about half a ton.

Steele: How badly did it hurt?

Barzee: It went up and over to the left. I knew my chest was crushed all over. It went over my right shoulder.

Steele: Where did you spend the next couple days.

Barzee: I think the first night I spent sill on road. Brian after had positioned the hand house came running over to me. I cried out to Lord "why hast thou forsaken me?" Brian came running over, and said I needed to get up and walk, that others would take the hand house away from us. So he helped me walk to the curb and sidewalk.

Steele: Where did you spend that night?

Barzee: We spent the night on road.

Steele: And you were in the hand house?

Barzee: I was in the hand house. It was very difficult for me to get in there.

Steele: And what did he do that night and the next day?

Barzee: He used lymphology on me rubbing my chest, stroking my chest and that's what he did do to help me heal.

Steele: Did that help you heal?

Barzee: Yes

Steele: How long did that take? The healing process?

Barzee: I was able to walk again within in three days it was very painful, but I was able to stand up and take my first steps.

Steele: Where did you stay that next night?

Barzee: The family down the road, they gave us breakfast, and they let. … First the police came and told us we weren't authorized to park on the road and we had to get it off the street. So a neighbor helped Brian pull it into his driveway, and we spent the night there. But the neighbors were concerned and wanted to keep peace with the neighbors so we made arrangements to take the hand house on church property

Steele: Do your remember what church that was?

Barzee: No I don't.

Steele: Do you remember who you met?

Barzee: We met the minister for the church, and he told us to park there.

Steele: And how long did you stay there?

Barzee: I think it was only a day or two. It was getting close to New Year's Eve. I think and the minister said we had to move. He was getting complaints from the neighbors. Brian didn't think he could pull it by himself loaded, so the minister made arrangements for us to go the family center in Salt Lake City, The homeless shelter. And so the minister loaded me up in the car and drove me to the homeless shelter and Brian tied to hand house to that.

Steele: Do you remember after that who you lived with? Did you live with the Wests some time again?

Barzee: Oh yes, that was yeah.

Steele: And how did it go that time?

Barzee: Um well, we were dressed in the robes and Dr. West seemed fine with that for a while. He was concerned about our testimony and what had happened to it and what we believed in. And Brian would tell him, "you know better than that how we get revelation," and he was, I cant remember exactly what happened, but I know that Brian used incense in their house once and Dr. West didn't want that to happen again.

Steele: How had you testimony changed?

Barzee: I don't know. I still believe in the church doctrine and, uh, I didn't know what was happening to Brian.

Steele: Was something happening to Brian?

Barzee: Well we weren't active in the church, and, um, I thought everything was going fine.

Steele: And then, you talked about November 7, 2000, already, but that were you at the Wests' home or where you …?

Barzee: We were at Irene's.

Steele: At Irene's. That's when you talked about the Relief Society presidency and the hymn book and the names. Do you remember November 23, 2000?

Barzee: Yes I do. But I couldn't understand why Brian's brother Tim … wouldn't have his children speak to us or wouldn't let them around us. And Irene was gone a lot for the time to St. George to take care of her daughter who was fighting cancer. And I think the family would be upset and Brian and I would go to the teepee and we spent a couple of days up there. And it was 21st of November when we coming down the hill, down the outing, when Brian told me had a dream that celestial marriage would be tested. And he had a dream about a black woman, and I pondered that and I became more upset. And Thanksgiving was on the 23rd of November and we went to Chuck-a-rama for dinner. And walking back to Irene's house in the dark I started thinking about it and got really upset and devastated and nearly collapsed in his arms I was crying.

Steele: Why were you upset

Barzee: Because he told me celestial marriage was being restored so he gave me a blessing when we got to back to the house. And I was told that no matter how difficult I found the law to bear I needed to live the law or suffer eternal consequences.

Steele: You were upset because you had to share him?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did the blessing calm you down?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did these thoughts of fear and upset return?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Do your remember other pieces of the revelation or the blessing?

Barzee: I was commanded to take seven wives into my heart and home and sister wives. That I would have a sisterhood I had never known before and I was told I was a mother of Zion and the things I would suffer would be similar to what Mother in Heaven suffered.

Steele: What did it mean to be a mother in Zion?

Barzee: That I had to be perfect as much as I could.

Steele: And that worried you?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And you had been up in the teepee when these things had been going on and that was still up in the same spot it had always been?

Barzee: Yes

Steele: And what happened next in regard to celestial marriage?

Barzee: Well in the blessing I received, I was told I was to live the law or suffer eternal consequences. Did I say that already?

Steele: Yeah, and what followed?

Barzee: I remember I'd soak in the bathtub trying to accept my calling, trying to accept the law. And how hard it was to bear and Brian said he had this black woman named Kelly and she was 8 months pregnant with another man's child, but she was also a member of the church, and uh …

Steele: Did you ever meet Kelly?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And how many times did you see Kelly?

Barzee: I um went to her apartment to. Brian gave my consent that she could be his wife and anyway I thought I was supposed to be present. And uh he came home after one night and told me he had already married Kelly to him and had already consummated the marriage, and I knew nothing about it.

Steele: How did that make you feel?

Barzee: That was hard.

Steele: How long do you live together, all three of you?

Barzee: We moved in with Kelly for one week.

Steele: And how was that one week?

Law of Sarah

Barzee: It was um Kelly wanted Brian all to herself, and I would stay in the back room. But I saw Brian sitting on her bed with her and how they joined together. And Brian didn't want to have anything to do with me. And anyway we left Kelly and went back to Irene's place and Brian would go minister and he would come home late. And I was given the claim over my husband and Brian told me I had the power of Sarah in the Bible, Abraham's wife, and I could execute law of Sarah on her if I needed to.

Steele: What was the law of Sarah?

Barzee: Sarah gave Hagar to Abraham to wife and Hagar became jealous and Sarah was able to cast Hagar out.

Steele: Did you execute law of Sarah?

Barzee: Yes I did.

Steele: And did he follow that directive from you?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Did he continue to be with Kelly?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did it come to an end at sometime?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: How long did this go on?

Barzee: When I executed the law of Sarah. That's when found out she panhandled a street in front of the Joseph Smith Memorial Building, Brian had given her an apartment key and gave it to me so I'd give it to Kelly, he went into town with me very angry. He went to hand her the apartment key. I told her she had no more claim on Brian. She didn't say anything but threw the key down on ground and wouldn't take it from me, Brian was very hateful towards me.

Steele: Did that end the marriage with Kelly?

Barzee: No.

Steele: When did marriage with Kelly end?

Barzee: He followed me to the train, I went down to train stop where I got off, he left me there, was going to go back to take care of Kelly, walked home to Irene's, packed up all of our stuff, moved back to hand house. He came home and was surprised what had happened but he still went back and had relations with Kelly once or twice.

Steele: When did it come to end, how did that happen?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Steele: But it did come to an end?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did he say anything to you?

Barzee: Not that I remember.

Steele: How did you know it came to an end?

Barzee: The second time he came home late he said he was at Kelly's apartment but nothing had happened, then I told him that it would be his fault if he ever went back, and he said … really subtle.

Steele: You believe he never went back after that?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: This celestial marriage and obedience meant a lot to the two of you …

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: It became very difficult for both of you in different ways then?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Was obedience still important?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did he struggle with that?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And do you believe that he was truly struggling with that?


Steele: What did you see, you've described anger, upset comings and goings, and eventually he came back and ended the marriage — not to you but to Kelly. Did all of that look to you to be a struggle for him?

Barzee: No.

Steele: It wasn't a struggle for him to give up Kelly?

Barzee: Oh, yes it was, he was very angry with me and he told me that I would have … that her little girl would be sealed to me and that he would always say you have to love Kelly too.

Steele: But in the end, he gave up Kelly?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Do you remember a woman named Julie?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did you meet with Julie ever?

Barzee: Brian took me to a shoe store where she worked and asked if she could meet with us and I think we went to a park.

Steele: What did you do at the park?

Barzee: He talked to her about being his wife.

Steele: How long were you at the park?

Barzee: I don't remember, it was a short time.

Steele: 30 minutes? 10 minutes?

Barzee: She was on lunch break I think.

Steele: Maybe filled the lunch break?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did you ever meet her again?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Steele: What was the conversation about?

Barzee: I think about her becoming one of Brian's wives.

Steele: Did that ever happen?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Was there anyone else that he approached during this time period?

Barzee: Not that I remember.

Steele: In the winter of 2001?

Barzee: Probably.

Steele: In that time period was there a new revelation about celestial marriage, and I don't know the date but in winter/spring 2001?

Barzee: I don't remember. There was. He gave me a Priesthood blessing to say that because there wasn't anybody to listen to us and join the work or become his wife, to obey the commandment that was given to us, we were given a commandment to take a young girl between age of 10 to 14 years old.

Steele: Do you remember anything else that was said at that time in the blessing?

Barzee: No.

Steele: How difficult this might be?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: What was said about difficulty?

Barzee: I thought the age frame was 10 to 14 but when I asked Brian about it he would tell me he was definite about 14 year olds, don't know why but he would go downtown to minister and stalk young girls out, try to find out where they lived.

Steele: Was this getting harder?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Where were you living at the time?

Barzee: At Irene's house.

Steele: Early 2002, February 9th to March 15th… what went on in that period?

Barzee: In that period the book of Immanuel came out, not sure.

Steele: There was a series of revelations?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And you talk about a book Immanuel, what was that? Did you see the book of Immanuel?

Barzee: Yes he would receive revelations and he had me write them out.

Steele: How did he receive revelations?

Barzee: During the night, he would be up writing. The next day he would tell me what he came up with, have me write them down.

Steele: In your calligraphy hand-writing?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: At some pint did you do something with the book?

Barzee: Yes, I think he put on the front cover on April 6 when he completed and I think we handed out 8 copies of the book, we felt like for that book to come out, then there would be consequences through church to take place.

Steele: What kind of consequences?

Barzee: Possibly excommunication.

Steele: Who did you deliver books to?

Barzee: One to my mother and Dr. West. At Dr. West's house, Brian stood on the porch and called out to them. Dr. West came to door, and Carl West was standing next to him. He's the one who walked up to us … and took a copy from Brian's hand.

Steele: You said called out, what called out?

Barzee: Dr. West's name.

Steele: Were more things said from the sidewalk than Dr. West's name?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Steele: Was this a happy exchange?

Barzee: We were standing on the sidewalk, I didn't think so.

Steele: You were at a distance? Weren't up close?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Anything else lead you to not have a happy exchange?

Barzee: Just the way we left last time.

Steele: The time before?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And where else did you deliver it?

Barzee: I think it was, can't remember all the people but I think one was delivered to Tom and Lisa, Brian's sister and her husband.

Steele: Was it all family members beside Dr. West?

Barzee: I think so.

Steele: Your family and Brian's family?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Were there any more unhappy incidents surrounding delivering the book?

Barzee: Not that I recall.

Steele: Did you and Brian ever talk to anybody about the book?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Did you ever get any feedback about the book?

Barzee: No?

Steele: Did anybody give you any feedback about the book?

Barzee: No.

Steele: What do you remember about the core of the revelation or the revelation of the book?

Barzee: Um, the statement was of the society that we were supposed to form. It was in there and I think it referred to each of the seven diamonds plus one and it was listed in the statement and it had one revelation about lymphology and uh another one was about my mission and Brian's mission.

Steele: What was your mission?

Barzee: Being called as a mother of Zion and I had sought my calling and election in 1995 and uh that was in there that I would be sealed up into the church of the firstborn, that I would see the nail prints of the Savior and that I would play the music.

Steele: Play the music when and where?

Barzee: In the season when the Lord would gather his people to Zion.

Steele: So the end of times?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: What was the revelation as to Brian?

Barzee: I remember a lot of that being taken out of the book of Isaiah.

Steele: And do you remember any of it? If you don't, that's OK.

Barzee: He would always claim he was the righteous right hand of the Lord, the Davidic king, that he would be like Moses who delivered the house of Israel out of Egypt.

Steele: Anything on how that would happen?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Anything else you remember?

Barzee: No.

Steele: What happened in April 2002?

Barzee: I'm not sure. Oh.

Steele: At Irene's house.

Emotional testimony

Barzee: Well, we had, um, it was April 11. My stepfather had died and, uh, Brian and I felt to pay respects to him at his funeral and I felt bad but and I feel bad now that we went to the funeral dressed in our robes again. And it was April 11 at Irene's house that the family became very angry, that their mother Irene would put up with us still staying there so Lisa came to the house and told us that we needed to leave and take all of our possessions. And Irene went to the courthouse. I don't know where or when we got a restraining order on us.

Steele: Going back to the funeral, what did you do that you were sorry about?

Barzee: That we wore the robes and Brian and I …

Steele: Do you need water to take a break?

Barzee: I never knew what happened to my children, especially one of my sons. I didn't even know where he lived. I ever knew what happened to him. I'd been separated from him from so long and I signed the visitor book under my son's name so I knew he was there, but I didn't know what other children were there of mine. And, uh, anyway Brian and I saw Mark my son sitting there and he was a pall bearer and he was dressed in a suit he looked very nice. Brian and I got up to leave so we wouldn't bother anybody and my youngest daughter cam running down the hall, Marie, and she called out my name saying, "Wanda Mitchell!" and screaming at me and she continued to scream at me out in the parking lot and tell me how much she hated me and that I was evil and that she considered me that I didn't even give her birth.

Steele: Did you shout something?

Barzee: The only thing I said to her was, "Repent."

Steele: Did you shout that inside of the building?

Barzee: No.

Steele: Is that part of what disturbed you?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Back at Irene's she left to go to the courthouse. Did she return?

Barzee: I thinks she returned with Lisa in the van or something and we were told we had to take everything with us and we couldn't take it with us so we destroyed everything we had and piled it in garbage cans.

Steele: When you destroyed everything you had, what kinds of things?

Barzee: The dishes and a microwave and an old fashioned wheat grinder that we had, a wood case on it and we destroyed our television and our video, just everything we piled in our garbage can.

Steele: Where did you go from there?

Revelation: new wife

Barzee: We didn't know where else to go but to our teepee. We went to the base camp in the mountains.

Steele: And this is the same place back in '97 when you got the teepee being in the same general area?

Barzee: It's the same mountain range, but the base camp was lower.

Steele: Did your receive another revelation or blessing?

Barzee: Yes. It was April 30.

Steele: And what was that blessing about?

Barzee: It was, we were told that (crying) that we were to go forth in five weeks and on the night of June 4, and the Lord would open up the way for us to obtain our first wife.

Steele: And what did you do with those five weeks?

Barzee: The first four weeks we were to perform temporal preparations and the last week was for spiritual preparation and the temporal preparation was different than anything we'd heard before. We were told not to exert any energy. I can't remember what we would do, but the fifth week he had to find another camp higher in the mountains. And we were told to store our teepee away for a time. So when it came time to be the fifth week, when it came to be the 4th of June, Brian was supposed to go forth around midnight and I didn't know who the young woman was going to be. I had no idea and, um, it was really stressful trying to accomplish everything we were supposed to do.

Steele: Things were getting even harder?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Did you, just before, did the two of you have a fight?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: When did that fight happen?

Barzee: We were so stressed out trying to put everything away and set up the new camp that it was just a real heated argument. And I can't remember what it was about but I just been thinking about it since and trying to figure out what was said and I just knew how drastically my life was going to change and having a 14-year-old girl, woman.

Steele: More than being about something specific, was it about the stress you were under?

Barzee: Probably.

Steele: Now you say you don't remember what was said. Do you remember anything you said?

Barzee: Yes, I do. It was a heated argument, and I was tired of arguing. It was close to the time Brian needed to leave. I remembered that I was the mother of Zion and commanded to obey this law so I told him that if the Lord didn't open the way then he wouldn't have to do it.

Steele: What does that mean, if the Lord doesn't open the way?

Barzee: (crying) I knew the Lord's all powerful, and I believed that if it was the Lord's will, then he would have provided the young woman, and I'd been separated from my children. But Brian gave me a priesthood blessing that he knew to take the young girl by force, and I was devastated.

Steele: That blessing was at a different time. That was what you were preparing for. You said if the Lord didn't open the way, then he didn't have to do it?

Barzee: When he was stalking young girls, he had many failed attempts, and the Lord said it wasn't in vain, that the way would be opened.

Steele: What if the Lord didn't open the way, did you tell him about that?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Steele: Did you tell him he needed to be obedient? That was the way you felt about yourself. Did obedience continue to be important for both of you, even as it got harder?

Barzee: He didn't seemed to be bothered about that. He just did what he wanted to do.

Steele: Was he struggling at all with going down the mountain?

Barzee: He didn't seem to be struggling so much, he just yelled at me and was putting things away.

Judge: I think this is a good stopping point.

Steele: This appears to be hard for you. Is it hard?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: At the time, June 4, did you believe in this command from God, not now but back at that time?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Right now.

Barzee: No.

Judge: you need to speak up please.

Steele: at the time, did you believe that Brian believed?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: Right now, do you believe that Brian believed?

Barzee: That's a hard question, I don't know.

Steele: Sometimes you think so and sometimes not?

Barzee: Well, it's hard to say, I don't know

Steele: OK. I have what's been marked defense exhibit P. do you recognize what it's a copy of?

Barzee: Yes

Steele: What is it?

Barzee: That's The Birth of Zion.

Steele: Is that another one of your journals?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And you wrote what was in there?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: If you would turn to Page 42 in there. And if you would take a moment and read from the top down to that symbol whose name I do not know, that little squiggly line, if you would read that to refresh your memory.

Barzee: I don't know how far I'm supposed to read.

Steele: Do you see the little squiggly mark a third of the way down the page?

Barzee: No.

(shows her)

Steele: Did you write that passage?

Barzee: Yes.

Steele: And in there, do you talk about Immanuel becoming incapacitated?

Barzee: I can't remember what I read.

Steele: Including the cutoff line, what's in line 6? I think it starts back in "failing in my attempt" on line 4.

Barzee: Now what was your question?

Steele: You write there, about Immanuel being incapacitated.

Barzee: I don't see that word.

Steele: Lets go down to line 4, including cutoff line, "and failing" I want to read from there down to first period.

Barzee: I'm still not sure where that is… "and failing in the attempt to do so, the way I would have liked the camp to be arranged, Immanuel came and incapacitated from going foretold, rebelling against command of God.

Steele: Seeing him in that state, what did you do?

Barzee: That's probably when I told him to go forth and to obey.

(Defense exhibit M)

Steele: Do you recognize that?

Barzee: I think this is Brian's handwriting, isn't it?

Steele: Is there a date on top of it?

Barzee: 1/31/06

Steele: Do you recognize that at all?

Barzee: Is this the kite he sent me at Utah state hospital.

Do you need to look at it a little more to see if it is? Is that the kite he sent you at the Utah state hospital?

Barzee: Yes

Steele: What is a kite?

Barzee: Where they send letter to you without permission, they sneak it in.

Steele: Is there mention in that letter of shekels, if you look down toward the bottom of first page?

(exhibit M received)

Barzee: I'm not a very fast reader … it's hard to read, "This he fulfilled with his blood, rest of Old Testament law, scriptures still in full force and Declaration of Independence and the Constitution uphold all such laws. And all of our rights come from God and not from man and cannot be denied by man except they break the laws of God. And the law of the land, in the Constitution. God's laws are acknowledged as the supreme law of land for all those who have eyes to see it. My eyes have never been opened to see it, only part of the laws have not been satisfied and that I must satisfy for us to be absolutely blameless before God. And in order to be … from our captivity, law found in …, talks of the weight of silver that must be offer to Shurjesha father, this can be arranged by grace of God (crying)" That's all you need to do.

Steele: That's all I have, your honor.

Cross examination

Judge: Thank you, you may cross-examine Mr. Viti.

Prosecutor Felice Viti: This is government exhibit 22. Ms. Barzee could you look at government exhibit No. 22. Who is that identified in the photograph?

Barzee: Yes I do.

Viti: Who is that?

Barzee: Brian David Mitchell

Viti: When you were questioned by Mr. Steele, is the man you referred to as Brian or Immanuel?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: So the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart is all your fault?

Barzee: No

Viti: Well if you didn't tell the defendant on the night of June 4, 2002, to heed God's command he would never have kidnapped Elizabeth Smart. Is that true or is that not true?

Barzee: I don't know?

Viti: Did you tell him God commanded it?

Barzee: Yes. I think so.

Viti: Who told you God commanded it?

Barzee: Brian

Viti: So the idea that Elizabeth Smart was to kidnapped came form Brian David Mitchell tell you God command them to do it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you believed that?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you believed God

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you didn't want to disobey God's word?

Barzee: No

Viti: So when he showed that great struggle on June 4, 2002 you didn't want to disobey God's word?

Barzee: No

Viti: The word of God through Brian?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Let's clarify some things. You used word "ministering" a lot during direct examination, ministering meant panhandling when defendant said he was ministering?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: It means getting money from other people.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: So whenever you said the word ministering you meant panhandling?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Mr. Steele asked you on direct examination about what medical attention you've been receiving since you were arrested March 12, 2003?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Since that date, you've been on a variety of medications is that correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And these drugs are helping you with your mental state? Correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you have been involved in countless hours of therapy, correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And that's mental therapy correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you told us when Mr. Steele had asked you of all the psychological or mental problems with which you were diagnosed, correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: During period of June 4, 2002, to March 12, 2003, you were not taking medication for these problems?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Not receiving any therapy for this problems

Barzee: No.

Viti: In fact you weren't taking any medications for these problems you'd been told you'd had for many years correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: No mental healthy counseling from June 4, 2002, to March 12, 2003?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: That was Brian's insistence?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did Brian ever tell you you were not to take medication?

Barzee: We learned medication was bad and didn't believe in doctors?

Viti: So you stopped taking your medication because of that?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You didn't want to lose Brian?

Barzee: Right.

Viti: You pleaded guilty sometime in November 2009 in federal court to the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart. Is that correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you pleaded in November 2009 to the interstate transportation of Elizabeth Smart with the intention to engage in illegal sexual activity with her didn't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And that was for the conduct between the dates of June 4, 2002, and March 12, 2003. Is that correct?

Barzee: I think so. If I understand you right.

Viti: That was for your conduct with the defendant between the dates Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped and you were arrested in Sandy, Utah. Correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: That was for a time that you were not taking medication?

Barzee: Right.

Viti: That was for a time and for many years before that not undergoing any mental health therapy or counseling?

Barzee: That's right.

Viti: You've been married to defendant for 25 year, about?

Barzee: Since 1985.

Viti: what is the status now?

Barzee: We're still married.

Viti: Did you file for divorce?

Barzee: I think 2004.

Viti: Did that come through?

Barzee: No.

Viti: You met him when you were filing for divorce?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you were in counseling?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And this was counseling for divorced people?

Barzee: I didn't know that. It was just group counseling.

Viti: Was it for divorced people?

Barzee: I don't know.

Viti: Was Brian going through divorce at the time?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did you have to be referred by a therapist?

Barzee: No.

Viti: A member of your church referred you?

Barzee: Jolene was member of LDS Family Services.

Viti: You had been married to your first husband for how many years?

Barzee: 20 years.

Viti: And you were married right out of high school at 18?

Barzee: Yes. A month later I was 19.

Viti: And your first husband, I think you said his names as Tal, T-A-L?

Barzee: his full name was Talmage Thompson

Viti: And Tal was abusive to you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Mentally and physically?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And when you met the defendant, you poured your heart our to him?

Barzee: About problems with my children.

Viti: You told the defendant your prior marriage was very bad?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: When you met the defendant remarriage or getting remarried was very important to you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You had been in abusive relationship but still considered marriage to be important institution?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And for you personally?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You didn't want to be alone?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: I think you said when you married that you hadn't healed form the first relationship?

Barzee: I hadn't healed. I thought I was all right, but I realized we had some problems.

Viti: You were still very vulnerable?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You told the defendant at some point you were terrified of being alone?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: When you met the defendant, did you want have more children?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Had you had hysterectomy at that time?

Barzee: I think the hysterectomy was around 1981 or 1982.

Viti: Before you met the defendant?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: When you married the defendant, you couldn't bear children?

Barzee: That's correct.

Viti: Did that bother you or hurt you?

Barzee: No.

Viti: When you married the defendant, despite that first hellish year, as you said, your biggest fear was losing him?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: In fact, during that hellish year, you sought out counseling?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you were counseled to stick it out and work out your problems?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you respected and admired people who gave you that counsel?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Were you taking any medications when you met the defendant?

Barzee: I don't think so.

Viti: When you met the defendant, would it be fair to say you were a very religious person?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You had very strong faith, didn't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: It was very important to you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Was that LDS faith?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: It had been in the fabric of your existence, your being, for as long as you remember?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Were you very active in church at time you met the defendant?

Barzee: Yes I was.

Viti: You understand now you have been excommunicated from the church?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Are you trying get back in the church?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: When you met the defendant — obviously we've all heard it — you played the organ?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And the piano?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you were a very good and talented musician, weren't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And more importantly you loved it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You told us yesterday, or maybe today, that you would play 6 to 8 hours a day.

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: It was almost spiritual for you, wasn't it?

Barzee: It was my salvation.

Viti: Your way to communicate with God? Is that fair?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you told defendant how much music meant to you didn't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: We heard how you needed the defendant very much on a lot of levels.

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You said he didn't seem to need you very much, did he?

Barzee: I didn't think so.

Viti: When you first needed or met the defendant, in group therapy, before you married, he was a very controlling personality, wasn't he?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Even back then he liked to control you, didn't he?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: In fact, there was a time when you were asked to go on date with an attorney, a lawyer, is that correct? He wouldn't allow that, would he?

Barzee: No.

Viti: And you weren't married at that time?

Barzee: No.

Viti: And apart of the hellishness of first year of marriage, that possessiveness was part of that, wasn't it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: As you testified yesterday, Brian David Mitchell needed to be in control, didn't he?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And that was not only with you, was it?

Barzee: No.

Viti: When you sought out counseling for that hellish first year, you spoke to a counselor about his controlling you, didn't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And once again, (the counselor) told you to work out your problems?

Barzee: I was told I needed to be one in control and to not (deed?) the fire.

Viti: So you asserting your control over him fuels his rage?

Barzee: I guess.

Viti: You were there … did he get dangerous whenever you tried to stand up on your own two feet?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You stated at end of the first year, marriage got a little better.

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Was that because you started being more submissive, didn't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you stopped trying to stand up on your own two feet?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You said yes about Brian controlling what you watched on TV?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And one of the shows you mentioned was "9 to 5?"

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: What was that show about?

Barzee: It was about secretaries going to work at 9 in the morning and … it's been such a long time …

Viti: Female secretaries, is that correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And they worked for male chauvinist boss?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And always getting the better of male chauvinist boss?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And he didn't want you watch that?

Barzee: No.

Viti: What else did he not want you to watch?

Barzee: Anything I wanted to watch …

Viti: True of the children too, … what they watched?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: But he watched what he wanted to watch?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You testified yesterday that when you married the defendant you didn't see family much.

Barzee: No.

Viti: You love your family very much don't you?

Barzee: Yes I do.

Viti: Are they here to support you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: They've been supporting you through this terrible, terrible time?

Barzee: Yes they have.

Viti: And you didn't see your family because the defendant didn't want you see your family?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: But he saw his family during the marriage?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And your mom, that is a part of family you were not allowed to see, is Dora Corbett?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you love her very much?

Barzee: Yes I do.

Viti: Yesterday, you talked about a ring that you had waited I think 4 years for … to make for you, and you slipped a little picture of ring, was it in his drawer or somewhere in your home?

Barzee: It was in his drawer.

Viti: You waited 4 years for this ring?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And that was a wedding ring?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And one day he brought you a ring he had made?

Barzee: He had decided it was time to make it, don't remember how long it took him, failed attempts doing it, I tried to compel him to finish, he just put it away and didn't want to do it, when I learned to be submissive to him, read in scriptures, he came home from work and he said could finish the ring.

Viti: The ring meant a lot to you?

Barzee: Yes it did.

Viti: Where were you now?

Barzee: We were in Palo Alto, Stanford University campus, when a student noticed the ring on my finger. She said if I can wear ring like that, I don't need any money. We met a Mennonite family pulling a handcart.

Viti: Let me stop you there, at this time you met a woman? Brian was panhandling, and one of the students saw your ring and said you don't need any money with that ring?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And as result, Brian sold the ring?

Barzee: Yes. He had a toothache and needed to go to the dentist …

Viti: Brian didn't give the money away to charity did he? He fixed his tooth.

Barzee: Yes.

Bishop aspirations

Viti: Let's talk about a little bit about your early days being married to Brian. Early on in your marriage and continuing for some time thereafter, you and the defendant were either active or trying to become more active members of the church.

Barzee: We were already active in the church and attended out meetings regularly.

Viti: And that's when you met Brian, when you were active, correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: During your time early in your marriage, did Brian receive a temple recommend?

Barzee: Yes he did.

Viti: What is a temple recommend?

Barzee: You go into an interview with your bishop and stake president and they ask you questions on your worthiness and they issue a temple recommend.

Viti: And during your marriage to Brian, he did this?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And the bishop found him worthy?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And that was based on?

Barzee: The answers he would give.

Viti: The answers Brian would give?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You testified yesterday that at some point in the marriage, the defendant, withdrawn. The defendant became an ordinance worker at the temple?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Is that an important calling?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You testified that Mr. Mitchell was part of a bishopric?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: But at some point during the time he was a member of the bishopric, he left?

Barzee: He was released.

Viti: And Brian thought he should be bishop?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And he thought he was the right man for the job?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And he was angry about that?

Barzee: Yes he was.

Viti: Because he believed he should be the bishop?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Ms. Barzee, I think you mentioned the name Luree. Who is that?

Barzee: My sixth child.

Viti: Your daughter?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: How old was Luree when you married the defendant?

Barzee: When I married Brian I think she was about 10.

Viti: You love Luree very much?

V: Yes I do.

Viti: And Luree lived with you and the defendant for a while didn't she?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: During some time when she lived with you and the defendant, she had a pet rabbit, didn't she?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And one day the defendant killed the rabbit?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: He not only killed the rabbit, he served it to her to eat, didn't he?

Barzee: Yes. He told me he didn't know how to cook it.

Viti: So he told you how to cook it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And Luree ate that rabbit didn't she?

Barzee: Yes. Brian had me tell her it was chicken.

Viti: And Luree believed you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And this as the defendant's idea?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: It wasn't your idea to kill the rabbit and feed it to her?

Barzee: No.

Viti: How old was your daughter?

Barzee: I don't remember. I know she came to live with us when she was 11.

Viti: So she was young?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Pretty trusting.

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Was the defendant proud that he tricked Luree into eating that rabbit?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: The defendant was very pleased with himself wasn't he?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did the defendant have his temple recommend when he fed Luree that pet rabbit?

Barzee: I don't remember when he killed the pet rabbit.

Viti: Was he involved with the church when he killed the pet rabbit?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: During your marriage with the defendant, he would view pornography, wouldn't he?

Barzee: He never showed me pornography when we were married before we got Elizabeth.

Viti: I'm talking about pornography before he got Elizabeth. Isn't it correct he showed your children pornography?

Barzee: I don't remember anything about that.

Viti: Do you remember talking to a doctor by the name of Welner?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Do you remember telling Dr. Welner that during your marriage that Brian would show us pornography?

Barzee: No I don't remember.

Viti: Ms Barzee, I'd ask you to look at and read government exhibit 79 to yourself. … Have you read it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Does that refresh your recollection whether you ever told Dr. Welner that the defendant showed pornography to you and your children?

Barzee: I wasn't aware of that.

Viti: OK. … During the early years of your marriage to the defendant, was there a time you or maybe not so much the early years, was there a time during your marriage with the defendant that you confronted him about a photograph of two young girls who were naked?

Barzee: I don't remember those photographs.

Viti: Do you remember confronting him about those photographs?

Barzee: No.

Viti: You don't remember finding those among his belongings?

Barzee: No.

Viti: During a time in your marriage, the defendant worked for O.C. Tanner?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: How long did he work there?

Barzee: He worked there four or five years.

Viti: He worked his way up to maintenance positions?

Barzee: Worked his way up to what?

Viti: Working in the factory as a dye cutter? At some point he left the job?

Viti: Did he discuss leaving job with you before he left it?

Barzee: He was always tired of music he was hearing and they gave him earphones but he started singing hymns.

Viti: Before he left job, did he discuss he was going to leave it with you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: How did he justify leaving job? What was his reason?

Barzee: The main thing I think was music he was hearing, and he wanted to always be, work with metals, he was hired on the spot at Historical Arts and Casting.

Viti: How long did he work for Historical Arts and Casting?

Barzee: 8 months

Viti: After a time, he left. What reason did he give?

Barzee: On the day I gave my third organ recital, he gave his resignation to teach lymphology.

Viti: Had he been discussing lymphology before he left that position?

Barzee: Not too much. He just felt that was what Lord wanted him to teach.

Viti: That's what he told you

Barzee: yes

Viti: He had known about lymphology before he left his job?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He told you it was the Lord's will?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He had to pay taxes work for Historical Arts and Casting. He didn't have to pay taxes working for Dr. West?

Barzee: No

Viti: After he left Historical Arts and Casting, did he work right away for Dr. West?

Barzee: No

Viti: What did he do?

Barzee: He tried to teach lymphology in Salt Lake City, around a few neighborhoods. I think a stake president was concerned by what he was teaching so he was being watched closely by church. He as never successful getting donations. We sold all our possessions, bought the trailer and moved to Heber. That was when he went to Orem be trained by Dr. West.

Viti: Was he working or selling lymphology before he worked with Dr. West in … selling it?

Barzee: Had to teach it to get donations.

Viti: Did he have to interact with people, convince them something either needed or wanted in their lives?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he had to use his skills as talker?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Was he skilled at that?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He's a smooth talker, wasn't he?

Barzee: He was able to talk on phone.

Viti: We'll get to that. The 32-foot fifth wheel trailer, you mentioned it miraculously came to you.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Let's talk about the miracle of fifth wheel trailer. How did it miraculously come to you?

Barzee: We had gone down to a place that sold trailers and we didn't think …, We first saw the 32-foot with shell, with a price at $11,500. We didn't think it was possible without having any money. We looked at a smaller trailer, about 24 foot. We went to talk to the salesman and already … , He had trailer about the same size, he used that trailer all the time. I didn't known why he asked to look at the 32 fifth wheel. He had us follow him to his house and we made a deal with the salesman — he would buy a new trailer if we would take his trailer. The salesman was wiling to lend us money that was available.

Viti: The salesman was willing to lend you money?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Brian convinced him let you borrow money?

Barzee: The salesman didn't follow through with his commitment. I don't remember how much of a down payment we needed. The salesman said he'd sell it to us for $11,000. Brian told him he didn't have a job. He said to fill out form, and he'd "see what we can do." I never saw contract got through so fast, so we go trailer.

Viti: Brian promised to pay for trailer?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: That was trailer left on top of McKnight's because he didn't pay for it?

Barzee: No. They said they'd have bank come and pick it up.

Viti: Brain told you the way you received the trailer was miraculous?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: It didn't just appear somewhere in the field

Barzee: No

Viti: And you believed it was a miracle after Brian told you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Lets talk about your 7 month living with Wests. OK?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did you have a trailer when your worked for Wests

Barzee: When we moved to Heber

Viti: Was that before or after Wests?

Barzee: Father had the trailer moved to Heber that's when he moved down to Orem. Dr West hired Brian to work on the phone.

Viti: He hired Brian to sell or talk about lymphology to strangers over phone?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Brian we very successful at that?

Barzee: Yes he was.

Viti: He was good over phones?

Barzee: Yes talked to people all over world. Internationally

Viti: And you live with the Wests for a number of months?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did you pay them rent?

Barzee: No

Viti: They had a very charitable philosophy, didn't they?

Barzee: Yes, they did.

Viti: So you didn't need to pay them rent, and while he worked for Dr. West he didn't pay taxes?

Barzee: No

Viti: And he enjoyed that liked that?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: The defendant didn't like to pay for things?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Child support

Barzee: Yes, he borrowed money from mother one time.

Viti: And he didn't pay her back?

Barzee: No

Viti: And he didn't keep his promise with respect to the trailer?

Barzee: No

Viti: And he would avoid those debts by up and leaving?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: At some point after 7 months, he left the Wests, or together you left the Wests?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And why did you leave the Wests after living with them?

Barzee: I don't know, Dr. West was always trying to get Brian come back and teach lymphology. He was always concerned with him not being active in the church, too.

Viti: So Dr. West asked you to leave after seven months because of you inactivity in the church?

Barzee: We lived up in Heber, and Brian was trained over the summer in four months, that's when we originally left with the trailer to got to Idaho and not active in the church and Brian didn't say anything to Dr. West after such a long time teaching him, so he cut us off from the academy.

Viti: When you testified yesterday and maybe I didn't understand this correctly, you spoke about leaving for Idaho and at some point breaking an axel. Is that when you fled for Idaho from Heber?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you broke an axle on the truck that was pulling the trailer?

Barzee: There were two axles. The front axle was slightly bent already and he went to pull out form the gas station he realized it didn't have normal gas or something and he didn't pull out side enough and bent the rear axles.

Viti: You waited three days for a replacement axle correct?

Barzee: Yes, Brian had to replace it.

Viti: You waited three days?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And was it replaced?

Barzee: Brian purchased it from family member that worked for the company and replaced both axles.

Viti: I thought you said you waited three days…

Barzee: It was in those three days that he gave me a priesthood blessing saying we needed to simplify our lives.

Viti: What is the priesthood blessing?

Barzee: It is a man in the church that holds the Melchizedek priesthood and he places his hands on your head and pronounces a blessing on you.

Viti: And Brian had that status?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And that was important to you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: It was very sacred to you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You told Brian that from your conversations hadn't you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: When the defendant would give you a priesthood blessing, you would believe it wouldn't you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: In Idaho, let's talk about the McKnights for a moment. Sometime in Idaho, there was a ward there?

Barzee: A ward.

Viti: There was a town that had a ward did it not?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: It was the Hooskie ward?

Barzee: Hooskie ward.

Viti: And you were called to be the pianist for the relief society in the ward?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: That made you very happy.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: The def was very envious of that wasn't he

Barzee: I think so.

Viti: Did you ever see the defendant give Mr. McKnight a pamphlet of his writings?

Barzee: No

Viti: At some point during the time you spent with the McKnights there was a disagreement between you and the McKnights?

Barzee: I don't know

Viti: Why did you leave the McKnight's

Barzee: Brian said there wasn't any way to pay the trailer payment and he went off on a walk back in the mountains and said it was the Lord's will to sell everything he owned.

Viti: But he hadn't been paying for everything in some time.

Barzee: No

Viti: So at sometime, he takes a walk in the woods, came back gave you a blessing?

Barzee: He didn't give me a blessing. He just took a walk in the woods and said we need to sell everything.

Viti: Was this a revelation?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he said "leave the trailer?"

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he left the trailer at the McKnight's?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He didn't tell them he owed money on the trailer, did he?

Barzee: I don't know.

Viti: After you left, this was the travel through the land time?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Was that through revelation?

Barzee: Yes it was his idea to hitchhike though Spokane, Washington, and get backpacks.

Viti: When you say sold the truck, did that include the fifth wheel?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: What did you do with the money?

Barzee: Bought the tent sleeping bags and backpacks.

Viti: You didn't give it to charity?

Barzee: No

Viti: Was this the trip after Idaho where you began writing "Journey though the land?"

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And was that Brian's idea?

Barzee: From McKnight's house and having our things up for sale we cam back to Salt Lake City and stayed in a field and that's where I was told through a priesthood blessing that we were being prepared for our work and that armies of heaven were camped about us and the angels encircled us and I was commanded to get caught up on my journals and keep it every day

Viti: And the blessing came from the defendant?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you believed in it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You had faith in it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And that was why the journey in the land started, because Brian told you through a priesthood blessing?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: During this hitchhiking you did?

Barzee: Hitchhiking.

Viti: During these travels you had to rely on kindness of strangers?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: People you had never met?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he was able to talk them into giving him money?

Barzee: He just held up a sign.

Viti: And money came?

Barzee: And money came.

Viti: This was administering?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He was able to get rides form people?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Sometimes even stay at their homes?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He was very skilled at getting people to do what he wanted wasn't he?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You went back east during this trip?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You weren't wearing robes at the time?

Barzee: Right.

Viti: Their robe revelation doesn't come until after?

Barzee: Right.

Viti: You played your beautiful music in cathedrals and churches?

Barzee: In Philadelphia and Boston and New York City.

Viti: That was Babylon wasn't it? New York City.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You testified about paying $250 for a church or time in a church or cathedral?

Barzee: That was in Philadelphia.

Viti: What happened?

Barzee: We were given a fee to play. $250 to rent the sanctuary, to play the recital.

Viti: So the defendant negotiated with another individual to allow you to play for a price of $250?

Barzee: But I was commanded of God that he would open up the way and that I would play this organ recital and when the 250 dollar fee came up, then I couldn't understand. I was told that was Satan's power and that was a test for me to prove that I didn't seek the fame for myself, that I just really wanted to glorify God through the music I played. And because I passed the test the Lord would take care of the fee in his own way and we didn't have more than 50 dollars on us and the proprietor thanked me for doing our thing and sent me on our journey.

Viti: And who told you that this was, was this the defendant that told you how it would be?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And had he negotiated a $250 fee before this happened?

Barzee: No

Viti: So when you say you understand this was test, this was the defendant telling you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you believed him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Was this during the journey that you visited Hawaii?

Barzee: This was the same journey in the 20 months we had.

Viti: You flew to Hawaii, and you testified that the defendant ministered, or panhandled for some of that money to purchase tickets for Hawaii, and went to the welfare office?

Barzee: We stayed at the homeless shelter, had gone to the welfare office, that's how we got money for a one way ticket.

Viti: How did you get money?

Barzee: The welfare office gave it to us. … It was supposed to be money for a round-trip ticket I thought, and they were questioning it or something and they wanted us somehow to go ... and be able to pay it off. Then Brian said no, we'll just take the money for a one-way trip.

Viti: Were you supposed to pay it back?

Barzee: I don't know.

Viti: Before you went to the office, when the defendant couldn't raise enough money he'd panhandled, he received a revelation to go to the welfare office?

Barzee: That was a requirement to stay in the homeless shelter … to go to the welfare office.

Viti: Before the defendant told you you weren't going to panhandle for money to go to Hawaii, did he tell you about the revelation to go to the welfare office?

Barzee: No

Viti: Whenever you're in Hawaii, you spent about a month here?

Barzee: Three weeks.

Viti: And he panhandled to get a return trip home?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did he do any volunteer work in Hawaii?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Was this the journey when you also went to Alaska?

Barzee: That was pulling a handcart.

Viti: That was later on?

Viti: Yes.

Viti: And while in Hawaii, were you writing during your journey through the land?

Barzee: I was keeping my journal but hadn't written in it …

Viti: So you took from that and wrote a journal of your journey through the land. Would your husband look t what you wrote?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Would Brian tell you what he did during the day?

Barzee: No.

Viti: He never edited your manuscript?

Barzee: No.

Viti: In these travels, those 20 months, you relied on Brian a lot?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Food?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Shelter?

Barzee: Yes. That's when we were on the fruit diet for 14 months.

Viti: You couldn't have done this alone?

Barzee: No.

Viti: He was pretty good at driving, wasn't he?

Barzee: Yes. He could find his way around. He never taught me how to follow a map or directions. I was dependent on him

Viti: In 20 months with no money, it's not like you took money out of a bank account, you for 20 months survived from one coast to Hawaii and back, is that correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: There was a time when you and the defendant lived with your mom?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: That's Dora Corbett?

Barzee: Yes, and my stepfather.

Viti: This is the one who passed away when you and Brian went to the funeral?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: At that time when you lived with mom, the defendant wanted to hold meetings there?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And mom's house had a piano?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did you ever discuss how much you love music with your mom?

Barzee: I think she knew it. She raised me.

Viti: You wanted to play for how long?

Barzee: I didn't have a teacher. I needed to practice and early and (self-taught). I could have played all day. She would tell me to quit practicing.

Viti: At what age did you start to learn how to play?

Barzee: I think I was around third grade or something. Our music teacher lived with us. He was a one-legged man. He lived with us for one year, but I was sexually molested by him.

Viti: Do you need some water?

Barzee: I don't remember very much. I remember sitting in a courtroom.

Viti: You don't need to if you don't want.

Barzee: I just found out from my mother when he was incarcerated through a history she had written, that he moved out of the house.

Viti: Since you were a very young girl, you had played the piano or the organ and there was a piano in your mom's home?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And when the defendant lived with your mom, he wanted to hold meetings there?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Your mom was a very active member of the church?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And your mom, what did your moms say when the defendant asked her to hold meetings in her house?

Barzee: I don't remember exactly, but she didn't want us to take control of her home.

Viti: Was she upset or did she express concerns about the content, what would be taught at those meetings?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Viti: The defendant told your mother that it would also be a good opportunity for you to play the piano during these meetings?

Barzee: Probably.

Viti: Do you know?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Let's talk about something that's been called the Book of Immauel David Isaiah. Do you recall when the defendant started writing it?

Barzee: No. I don't. I don't remember when the first revelation came out.

Viti: Or when he told you the first revelation came out?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did he tell you that what he wrote was divinely inspired?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: It came from god?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you believed it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Explain to use the process of writing that book. How was the book written?

Barzee: He said he just started writing revelations. They would come at different times. He would think that he was through and he said another revelation was coming forth. He would be out the rest of the night writing it, then he would have me write it out in calligraphy.

Viti: He would give you what he wrote. You would write it out in that beautiful calligraphy we saw. … Did you ever meet the defendant's father, Shirl? He wrote a book, too.

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: How many pages?

Barzee: I don't know.

Viti: Was it bigger than the defendant's book? Did the defendant talk about his father's book?

Barzee: He said he was writing it for years. It was about his religious life, but was such difficult language for me to understand. He was very analytical. I didn't talk to Shirl very much.

Viti: Was the defendant's book was much smaller than Shirl's?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Did the defendant ever talk about how he admired his father for writing the book?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Did he ever tell you to read the book?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Didn't he read it or didn't he tell you?

Barzee: I don't think he read it. He didn't believe in a lot of things that his father was believing in.

Viti: Let's talk about some of the revelations and blessings throughout the course of your marriage with the defendant. What's your understanding of revelation? That's the impression you get from the holy spirit?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: So not actually hearing a voice?

Barzee: No.

Viti: An impression? A spiritual kind of movement?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Would that be the same as inspiration. Is that similar?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And revelation is very important to you and inspiration?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: The defendant, you told us yesterday and today that he had given priesthood blessings and had many revelations.

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And he made sure you heard them, what they were?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And priesthood blessings, the same thing?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: When the defendant would give you a priesthood blessing, would he put his hands on your head?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Would he speak. How would his speech be when he'd do this?

Barzee: He'd say something like, "By the power of the priesthood which I hold, I place my hands on your head to give you a priesthood blessing. He would want me to know what the Lord wanted me to know.

Viti: He invoked the position of the priesthood when he told you how special and important you are?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Were you an obedient wife?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: A submissive wife?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you have strong faith?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you believed him?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Let's talk about some of the revelations throughout your marriage with Mr. Mitchell. One of them was when he told you as his wife you needed to submit to him and obey?

Barzee: I learned that as a temple ordinance worker, that's what he expected of me.

Viti: Did he ever tell you that's what he expected of you?

Barzee: No

Viti: Did he ever give you priesthood blessing to that effect that you were to obey?

Barzee: I don't remember that. He didn't give me very many blessings until around the time I did my third organ recital in 1994.

Viti: So did he ever give you a priesthood blessing after 1994 about obeying a being submissive?

Barzee: No

Viti: Did he ever give you blessing about you were never to complain or demand but you were to plead and suggest?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: That was in California with Elizabeth?

Viti: So those types of blessings didn't come until he kidnapped Elizabeth?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: But you in your heart you knew or you wanted to be a submissive wife?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you wanted to obey?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You mentioned at great length, we discussed earlier the celestial marriage revelation?

Barzee: OK

Viti: Let's try to focus on that a bit first of all, when you say celestial marriage, you understand that it is plural marriage?

Barzee: Yes. More than one wife.

Viti: Yes. That was you understanding of it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And that's what Brian told you this understanding was?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And this was around November 2000. Where were you living at that time?

Barzee: At Irene Mitchell's' place.

Viti: Was the defendant in and out of Salt Lake City at the time?

Barzee: He went there to panhandle.

Viti: And that is where Kelly, this African-American woman panhandles?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: At the same time around 2000, he had a revelation or a dream, which on was the first one?

Barzee: Well, oh on the 21st about Kelly.

Viti: Yes tell us about that.

Barzee: We were at the teepee coming down of the mountain and he told me he had revelation, maybe it was both, that he visualized this black woman.

Viti: He never told you anything about this before?

Barzee: No

Viti: And you found out this black woman was named Kelly?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And before that he was panhandling in Slat Lake City?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And before he was consumed with doubt about it?

Barzee: He told me he was afraid to mention it, about this dream of having a black woman for a wife, but that he was guilty of it ,guilty of sinning.

Viti: Let's talk about first time he mentioned plural marriage as that in the context of this African-American woman.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Once he told you about that, how did you feel?

Barzee: I was devastated. It was hard to bear it, that I was going to share another woman with him.

Viti: Let's back up he tells you about dream he has about the African-American woman, and was he upset about it?

Barzee: He said he was.

Viti: Did anything happen two days after that. Did he have another revelation?

Barzee: Well I was upset about celestial or plural marriage coming forth and that's when he gave me the priesthood blessing about it.

Viti: He tells you about celestial marriage and an African-American woman and your upset about this?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You don't' want to share this husband that you love?

Barzee: No

Viti: And for two days you express that disappointment to him?

Barzee: I as devastated.

Viti: You collapse in his arms?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Two days later he gives a priesthood blessing?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And what does he say?

Barzee: That no matter how hard it is to bear, I need to live the law or suffer eternal consequences.

Viti: Law according to whom?

Barzee: Law according to God.

Viti: Who told you it was God's law to be a participant in plural marriage?

Barzee: Brian

Viti: And he told you that if you didn't participate in that you'd suffer eternal consequences?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: During this priesthood blessing did he tell you you would be a mother of Zion?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did he tell you would bear children?

Barzee: He said when I saw the Savior and had the calling and election I would be healed and have my womb opened.

Viti: And this was important to you

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You didn't' want to be consigned to eternal damnation?

Barzee: No

Viti: And this being a mother in Zion, you had to be perfected didn't you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And being perfect meant obeying him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Doing what he wanted to do no matter that you didn't wan tot do it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Regardless of how it hurt you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: At some point after the priesthood blessing suddenly Kelly appears doesn't she?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: How long after that priesthood blessing does Kelly appear in your life?

Barzee: I think it was like in February or something like that.

Viti: So you have the first revelation the 21st of November, then 2 days alter the priesthood blessing?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And then sometime in February you meet Kelly?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: How do you meet Kelly?

Barzee: He took me to her apartment and he even knew where she lived?

Viti: Even though your never met her, he knew where she lived?

Barzee: Yeah he took me there.

Viti: Did he tell you how they met?

Barzee: He didn't tell me anything about her other than she was black woman.

Viti: What about when you met her?

Barzee: She as 8 months pregnant and we just went to her apartment and I just gave my consent. He presented the fact that plural marriage, celestial marriage was being restored and I gave my consent that if she agreed she become his second wife.

Viti: And this happened the first time you meet her, you find out Kelly is going to be your sister wife?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: At that point, prior to that time where he announced for the time that Kelly was to be your sister wife, had he told you that he had consummated the marriage yet?

Barzee: No

Viti: When did he tell you had had in fact consummated the marriage?

Barzee: Um while I was soaking in the tub trying to get used to the idea, and not so hard to bear, and uh he came home late one night, and uh I told him that I gave him my permission, but that I thought I was supposed to be present. And he just told me he was going ministering and he came home again one night and told me he had married Kelly to himself and consummated the marriage.

Viti: Was this after the first meeting at Kelly's apartment

Barzee: Yes

Viti: So it wasn't at her house that you were soaking yourself?

Barzee: No, it was at Brian's mother's.

Viti: Irene's house?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: When he first told you, you hadn't had the right to invoke Law of Sarah or disagree?

Barzee: Right

Viti: The Law of Sarah as you had ability to say no?

Barzee: Right

Viti: He didn't do that with Kelly?

Barzee: No

Viti: What did consummating the marriage mean?

Barzee: Sexual relations.

Viti: How did that make you feel?

Barzee: Terrible he didn't want anything more to do with me in the time he met Kelly?

Viti: It was after that that you stayed in her apartment for about a week. And the way you described it, tell me if I'm wrong, he's in a different room with Kelly?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: A lot of the time?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Lusting after her?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Having sex with her?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: While you're somewhere else?

Barzee: Staying in the back room.

Viti: And any of the doubt he showed, he wasn't expressing it in that room was he?

Barzee: No

Viti: What happened after that week with Kelly?

Barzee: Well Kelly seemed to um take a very dislike to me, and she seemed to want Brian to herself .

Viti: So she was marrying what Brian seemed to want, Kelly to himself?

Barzee: Yes. He was sitting on the bed with her and it seemed like they were having a private conversation and didn't want me involved in it.

Viti: And this was after Brian told you you were the mother of Zion?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he told you you being mother of Zion was divinely inspired?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Then what happened?

Barzee: I don't remember what caused us to leave her apartment, but we moved out and moved back to Irene Mitchell's house and he would go minster.

Viti: Panhandle?

Barzee: Yes. And I don't remember how long we were separated from Kelly but he, um, he had a key to her apartment and I asked him to give me the key.

Viti: You didn't trust him?

Barzee: I didn't trust him. I was going to go downtown to execute the Law of Sarah on Kelly and tell her she had no claim on him and he was very angry that I was going to do that.

Viti: He gave you the power but he didn't' want you to exercise it when didn't' want you to exercise it?

Barzee: Right

Viti: Continue

Barzee: He went downtown with me and I found Kelly panhandling in front of The Joseph Smith Memorial Building, and I found out he was close enough to me that I guess he heard what I said when I asked Kelly to go to her apartment with me and she wouldn't go with me. And I told her she had no more claim on Brian and he was worried people walking around would hear me and understand what we were talking about and he didn't want anyone else to know Kelly was his wife. And anyway I uh left him to go catch the train to go back home and he followed me and he was just so angry and we got off the train track and I thought hew as going to come home with me and he wanted to go back downtown to be with Kelly.

Viti: So he was wiling that night to leave the Mother of Zion and be with Kelly?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you found out after that that he had been with Kelly, after you invoked law of Sarah?

Barzee: A couple of days he came home late, I sensed something in him, he said he had relations with Kelly.

Viti: He told you he visit with Kelly twice?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And one time he had sexual relations, another time he didn't?

Barzee: He told me he didn't.

Viti: Did he tell you he was done with Kelly?

Barzee: He never really told me he was done with her.

Viti: Did he tell you one time there was man in her apartment?

Barzee: Yes.

Lets talk about that. You mentioned, Kelly was his first attempt at plural marriage?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Is Kelly younger than you?

Barzee: She was in her 40s.

Viti: Tell us about the woman named Julie. How old, Julie was someone the defendant tried to persuade to enter into plural marriage?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: How old was Julie?

Barzee: I don't know maybe she was in her 30s, I'm not a good judge.

Viti: Younger than you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And this was after Kelly?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You met Julie?

Barzee: Yes. Brian took me to the shoe store she worked at, introduced me to her, I think we went to park on her lunch break and talked to her.

Viti: Did Brian tell you he met her before that day?

Barzee: No

Viti: Tell you where you were going?

Barzee: No, just that he had another woman to ask to be his wife.

Viti: Didn't give any indications he met her on a prior occasion?

Barzee: No

Viti: He walked right into that shoe store and started talking about plural marriage?

Barzee: I think she came from a polygamist family herself.

Viti: Was she engaged to be married?

Barzee: She was.

Viti: Did she have an engagement ring on?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Viti: Did the defendant ever encourage her … to come live with you in plural marriage?

Barzee: I don't know.

Viti: Did he have that conversation in the park?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Viti: She didn't come with you?

Barzee: No, she had already separated herself from her family and was marrying into the church and wanted … that.

Viti: She wanted no part of plural marriage?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Were you guys wearing robes at the time?

Barzee: I don't think so.

Viti: Talked about how he stalked a girl on a bus?

Barzee: I think so.

Viti: Did he tell you?

Barzee: He told me about it, I don't know all details, but remember him saying he got on a bus, trying to find out where this young woman lived. He sensed something wrong, they left and got on other bus, he was on there, so he was lost.

Viti: Was this before or after Julie?

Barzee: It was after.

Viti: So you recall it was Kelly then Julie and then according to the defendant, this girl on the bus?

Barzee: Yes. We were given an age frame of 24 year olds, that's when he started to stalk, trying to find out where young women lived.

Viti: Was Julie the result of revelation? Did he …

Barzee: He didn't tell me. I don't know

Viti: So after failing with Kelly and after failing with Julie, after failing to persuade them or you invoking the law of Sarah, and him coming back to you, what was the next revelation about plural wives?

Barzee: Maybe I need to clarify something because when I received revelation, probably on 2nd of November, to tell me that plural marriage had been restored, I was told to take 7 wives into … home and that they would be my sister wives and that our posterity would be as great as … wives he was give, that it was going to be not just 7, but seven times seven, that he was going to have 350 wives in the end.

Viti: That's a lot of wives for him, isn't it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: That's what he told you?

Barzee: Yes.


Judge: If you're ready we'll get the jury and proceed. You may stand or sit as you please when the jury comes in. You may proceed Mr. Viti.

Viti: Thank you your honor Miss Smart, I mean Ms. Barzee I'd like to direct you attention to the revelation that the defendant told you he had about young girls.

Barzee: OK.

Viti: When did he give you that information? When did he tell you about that revelation?

Barzee: Um it was when Kelly and Julie didn't' want to join in the work and there wasn't anybody. And he told me that we were commanded to take 14 year old young women, and we were to snatch them out of their world and train them up in the mysteries of God.

Viti: This was when his attempts failed to persuade adults?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He told you he had a revelation to take young girls?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Snatch them out from their house?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: How long before Miss Smart was kidnapped?

Barzee: That was before Elisabeth Smart.

Viti: How long before do you recall?

Barzee: No I don't

Viti: Did the defendant ever tell you or describe for you what type of 14-year-old?

Barzee: No he didn't.

Viti: Did he ever describe to you what type of family she was to come from?

Barzee: No

Viti: When the def told you about this revelation you were heartbroken?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You were saddened?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You didn't' want a 14-year-old to be forcibly taken away from her family?

Barzee: No

Viti: Did you convey that to the defendant?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: What did he say?

Barzee: I'm trying to remember.

Viti: OK, take your time.

Barzee: Well I knew that the Lord had all power to provide the young women if that was his will, and I know of the pain and suffering that I had been through being separated from my children, and I didn't want the young woman taken away from her family and her friends.

Viti: Did the defendant tell you it was your religious obligation to do it?

Barzee: I think, I don't remember what he said, but it was, it was back to being submissive and obedient. I remember something. It seems like when we were first told about taking 14-year-olds.

Viti: You mean when he told you he was told?

Barzee: I was told I needed to listen to the plan of my husband's.

Viti: Was this the first time you heard this revelation about listening to the plan of your husband?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You needed to be submissive and obey?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did he act totally surprised by this revelation?

Barzee: No

Viti: You never had any idea as to when this was to occur. did you or you did?

Barzee: No

Viti: There came a time before the kidnapping of Miss Smart that you started making preparation for her, didn't you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: How long before Miss Smart's kidnapping did you do that?

Barzee: It was April 30.We had five weeks to prepare.

Viti: Did the revelation to kidnap 14-yeaar-olds come before April 30 or after?

Barzee: It was before.

Viti: On April 30 did he have another revelation?

Barzee: No

Viti: Did the defendant tell you five weeks from today we're going to get that girl?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: On that date did he describe to you who it was going to be?

Barzee: No, he didn't.

Viti: Did he tell you what family she was from?

Barzee: No

Viti: And the five weeks were dived into spiritual and physical preparation?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And the physical was getting the camp ready?

Barzee: Yes most of that was in the fifth week though.

Viti: What did you do in the first four weeks?

Barzee: That was called temporal separation but we were just doing the same old thing.

Viti: The same thing you'd done for years and years?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Nothing different?

Barzee: He would panhandle.

Viti: so there as nothing spiritual about that, was there?

Barzee: No

Viti: Let's go to the physical preparation. You moved during that time, you took down the teepee from that camp you hid it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You concealed it?

Barzee: Yes, he was building an underground house, and I can't remember if he buried it there or no but it was awful heavy.

Viti: But you didn't want to be found?

Barzee: Right

Viti: Then you prepared the camp itself where Miss Smart was held for months, correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Part of that as the defendant stetting up the cable system?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He measured out the cable didn't he?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He had to measure out just how far he as going to allow that 14-year-old to roam?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He applied the crimps with a bolt cutter, correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He had to purchase those cables?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You had to set up a bucket, which was to be used as her bathroom?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You had to set up the tent that she was to be raped in correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: She was allowed, or measured out where she was allowed, to roam to clean the camp correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: The defendant was very careful in his preparations ?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Very meticulous?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He was talented that way, he could plan things out?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: During this time he was worried about being caught by police?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he did what he could to avoid that didn't he?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: So concealment was part of his plan to not get caught?

Barzee: Right

Viti: Lets talk about some of these revelations that he told you during Miss Smart's captivity. During the time Miss Smart was held captive you often became angry at the defendant for his lust for her correct?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Much like you did with Kelly?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You were angry both in Utah and after took Miss Smart to California?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You felt neglected?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You felt neglected?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you made your feelings known on more than one occasion?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And when you made feelings known he would come back to you with revelation and a priesthood blessing?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And these revelations and blessings involved scheduling time for you and scheduling time for Miss smart?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you believed when he told you about these revelations?

Barzee: Yes, I did.

Viti: And these priesthood blessings he gave you…

Barzee: A lot of the times he wouldn't even follow them.

Viti: So he would give you a priesthood blessing that he told you was divinely inspired, allot time between you, Mother of Zion, and Miss Smart, and just wouldn't even follow the schedule?

Barzee: No

Viti: Just keep lusting after Miss Smart?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And keep on neglecting you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And during the time she was held captive, the defendant had a revelation it was time to include Miss Smart in oral sex?

Barzee: (crying) Yes

Viti: And that was the result of revelation and priesthood blessing?

Barzee: I don't remember that one.

Viti: You remember the revelation?

Barzee: No.

Viti: You remember revelations when he told you that you had to perform oral sex in front of Miss Smart?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And you believed him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: During the time Miss Smart was held captive, you complained about drinking?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He would drink every chance he got?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He would steal alcohol?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He called it plundering?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Plundering comes from the Bible?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did he justify stealing by the use of word plunder?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: When you complained about alcohol intake, another revelation would come?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And another priesthood blessing?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And then he could go back to doing what he wanted with alcohol?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And you would stop complaining?

Barzee: Yes. That's when I was told not to compel my husband.

Viti: Was that true of drug use or just drinking?

Barzee: Well both, he was smoking and drinking and he stole drugs and when he received revelation that commanded me not do that anymore.

Viti: He told you (that) you were commanded not to do that anymore, you and Miss Smart?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: But he went on doing what he wanted to do?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He never expressed any remorse about kidnapping Miss Smart?

Barzee: No

Viti: During that time with the defendant, he had a number of encounters with police officers?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And never once did they take him for mental evaluation?

Barzee: No

Viti: When you were with edrt in all your journey, met a lot of ppl , all kinds of ppl

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And never once did any of these people tell the defendant he needed mental help?

Barzee: No

Viti: Lets go back to plundering, which was stealing, he called it plundering because its in the Bible, and the Bible allowed plundering?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He would steal alcohol?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Cigarettes?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Drugs?

Barzee: I only knew him to get marijuana one time before we got Elizabeth, don't have any idea how he got that.

Viti: He paid for it with money he had panhandled?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Money that could have gone for food?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did he ever call taking Miss Smart plundering?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You didn't drink before you met the defendant?

Barzee: I didn't drink, no.

Viti: And after you met him you drank?

Barzee: Took my frist dirnk on May 12, on Mother's Day of 2002, before we got Elizabeth.

Viti: Was this result of revelation?

Barzee: Not revelation, he just told me, I remember him before we became active in church, he told me he smoked and drank and took drugs, he was searching out one religion, he was on the property and Brother Tim came to see him, told him he loved him, Brian said he had a Book of Mormon and cigarettes and beer in one hand, I knew he didn't have both, threw them in fire, that was the last time he drank, he said.

Viti: But that wasn't correct. He drank a lot.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Before met the defendant, had you ever viewed pornography?

Barzee: No

Viti: Ever participated in kidnapping?

Barzee: No

Viti: Ever engage in sex in front of another person?

Barzee: No

Viti: You did all these things after you met the defendant?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did you do these things because the defendant said he had revelations?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You believed him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: You trusted him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Felt it was your duty to trust him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And obey him?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: The times that the defendant was away from you, when he told you he was ministering, but we know now, what would it be — panhandling — you weren't with him, so didn't know what he was up to, relied on what he told you?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Let's talk about robes for a minute, you stated he told you the robes were inspired by God?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: So it was God's word or God's commandment that you wear the robes?

Barzee: Yes, that we were separated from the world.

Viti: You connected back to the world by taking off your robes after Sept. 11, 2001, because you couldn't panhandle effectively in robes after that date?

Barzee: No

Viti: And you took off the robes that God commanded, he told you God commanded, when you hitchhiked back to California with Miss Smart because you needed rides?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: When did you get to Miami?

Barzee: I think it was in 1988 and 1989.

Viti: Do you recall what months?

Barzee: I think we left Utah on his birthday of Oct. 18, 1998.

Viti: How long did you spend in Miami?

Barzee: 6 months

Viti: In Miami, you told us, Miami was pretty hot and humid.

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Were you wearing robes when you went to Miami?

Barzee: We wore the robes.

Viti: He started dressing like Gandhi?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He would pandhandle in the Gandhi outfit?

Barzee: Yes, and barefoot.

Viti: Was that on the beach?

Barzee: He would go minister on south beach a lot on the beach.

Viti: You mean panhandle?

Barzee: Panhandle.

Viti: In the Gandhi outfit?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And there was a lot of topless women and they just were skinny, wearing bikinis?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Was this after he fled from New York, as being Babylon, or was that before you visited New York?

Barzee: That was after.

Viti: So he goes to South Beach in a Gandhi get-up, where there's topless women in string bikinis?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: He spent a lot of time there ministering?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: During the time that Miss Smart was held captive, did you write down some blessings he gave you?

Barzee: Yes I did.

Viti: You talked about that you had bequeathed the wagon somewhere, do you recall?

Barzee: That was the covered handwagon bequeathed in a small town in Idaho.

Viti: Did you try to sell?

Barzee: No

Viti: To whom did you bequeath it?

Barzee: We just left it in a small pavilion in a park.

Viti: That was before the journey through the land?

Barzee: That was before going back to Salt Lake City and going to Florida.

Viti: You didn't want to drag that wagon to Miami?

Barzee: No

Viti: You talked about when you were in Miami, there was horrible vision, you had a horrible fire, do you recall?

Barzee: I experienced the fire.

Viti: You experienced the fire in your mind?

Barzee: No it was real fire.

Viti: You didn't want to stay there anymore?

Barzee: No

Viti: And this was in Miami?

Barzee: Yes, south Miami around Dade.

Viti: Was it still South Beach?

Barzee: Different, he would have to travel many more miles to catch a bus go to South Beach.

Viti: You didn't want to stay there anymore?

Barzee: The fire devastated me.

Viti: Did you tell him that?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: Did you tell him you were frightened?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And how you were affected by it?

Barzee: Yes

Viti: And he had a revelation, didn't he?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And he gave you a priesthood blessing?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And then the upshot of those was you stayed in Miami?

Barzee: Yes we stayed at the campground.

Viti: In Miami? I mean Florida?

Barzee: In Dadeland.

Viti: So this as another revelation where he got you to do what he wanted you to do?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: There were a lot of those revelations, weren't there?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You talked about the horrible accident you had with the handcart?

Barzee: That was with the hand house.

Viti: Hand house, sorry. And you wrote about that experience in the The Birth of Zion, is that correct?

Barzee: I don't remember.

Viti: That is exhibit P as in Peter, can you turn to page 25. I would like you to read it to yourself with the paragraph starting spontaneously. You were horribly injured in that accident, weren't you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You had a crushed chest cavity?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Your knee and shoulder joints were separated?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You were in excruciating pain?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: You were in the middle of the street or on the street?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And Brian David Mitchell, after you were injured and laying in the street

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Lying on the street in that condition you said you get yourself up and get to the curb or you would lose custody of the hand house, is that correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Getting back to the Book of Immaneul David Isaiah, you said a lot of it was copied from the Book of Isaiah, correct?

Barzee: If I remember he used a lot of it.

Viti: And that's a chapter in the Bible, correct?

Barzee: Yes.

Judge: A book in the middle.

Viti: Thank you, is that a book in the Bible?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Mr. Steele has asked you on direct examination since your time that you were arrested you've had a lot of mental health therapy, is that correct?

Barze: Um, before I was arrested?

Viti: No, after. I'm sorry.

B: After we were arrested I was in the Utah State Hospital and I spent several years there before

Viti: And that was a great help to you hasn't it been?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And the medication you've been getting is greatly helping?

Barzee: Yes.


Viti: As you sit here today and reflect on your relationship with the defendant, is it your feeling that you were manipulated by the defendant?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: And those manipulations often came through his revelations and his priesthood blessings, did they?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Looking back now, would you have done those things you did without those manipulations?

Barzee: No.

Viti: And you had told him time and time again how important religion was to you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: How important family was to you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: How much you needed him?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Looking back on it now, you don't believe any word he told you, do you?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: He lied to you, didn't he?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: About everything?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: He's a good liar, isn't he?

Barzee: He's a great deceiver.

Viti: There was nothing the defendant did in your experience with him looking back that was in any way kind, was it?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Sorry?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Charitable?

Barzee: No.

Viti: Looking back on it as you sit here today, it was all about what the defendant wanted, wasn't it?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: As you sit here you have great sorrow about the things he convinced you to do, don't you?

Barzee: Yes I do.

Viti: How he separated you from your family?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Your children?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: Sexual activity?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: The kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: The raping of Elizabeth Smart?

Barzee: Yes.

Viti: No further questions.

Judge: Thank you, Mr. Viti.


Defense attorney Robert Steele: You testified that when Brian started to learn lymphology, that you weren't to take medication anymore.

W: He grew up with teachings … being a healthy fanatic, he was very critical of the foods I would cook. When he learned about lymphology and self-healing technologies, he wouldn't let me go to doctors anymore.

Steele: Had you been taking medications for mental health problems?

W: No.

Steele: You didn't give up any medication when he started doing lymphology.

W: No.

Steele: You just gave up going to doctors?

W: Right.

Steele: When you were injured being run over by the hand house, you testified he healed, he helped you by using lymphology.

W: Yes.

Steele: How long each day did he have to work with you to get some healing?

W: He worked on me less and less. He worked on me quite a bit when I was first injured. I laid there for three days in pain. After the third day, he told me I needed to sit up. He had to help me sit up. That was very painful.

Steele: During the three days, how much of the time was he working on you?

W: He didn't spend all that time on me, that I remember. He had to help me use the restroom using a bread pan that we had for coals and the wood-burning stove, and I'm not sure how long he spent on me with lymphology, but he'd get tired and wouldn't spend all that time on me.

Steele: However much time time it was, it helped you.

W: Yes.

Steele: And after three days it was less?

W: Yes.

Steele: You said he drank a lot. When did he start drinking again after marrying you?

W: It wasn't until May 12 on Mother's Day of 2002, before we got Miss Smart.

Steele: He didn't start drinking again until then, as far as you know?

W: As far as I know.

Judge: You may step down, Ms. Barzee. I assume we're done with this witness.

Barzee and Mitchell were accused of kidnapping Smart from her room in 2002 and holding her captive for nine months before being discovered. Barzee, who for years was found incompetent to stand trial, struck plea deals in both her state and federal cases after her competency was restored. She was sentenced earlier this year to federal prison in Ft. Worth, Texas.

Mitchell again began the day Friday singing Christmas carols before he was escorted out of the courtroom to witness the proceedings from a nearby annex. Mitchell sang "Joy to the World," "O Come All Ye Faithful," "Angels We Have Heard On High," and "Silent Night."

Friday was the last day of court before a week-long break for Thanksgiving. The trial is scheduled to run through Dec. 10.

Contributing: Pat Reavy

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