We need to be a bit more careful before automatically imputing religious
discrimination when dealing with the "no-fly" list. I know numerous
people who've been delayed because of this, and they weren't even
Muslim. It is a very problematic, vague, and error-prone restriction that has
snared people of many different faiths for many different, stupid reasons. It is
rife with mistakes and probably includes unconstitutional processes that affect
Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc. If anything, it probably has more to do with
knee-jerk observations of travel patterns and locations traveled as much as
Trout stalkerI am confident that LDS missionaries and the religion they
represent do not call for terrorism of other innocent people or religions.
Trouble with immigration is, it is now well known that the vast majority of
actions and threat of action comes by the hand of those belonging to that faith.
It is happening on a daily basis around the world. If this man was on a no fly
list, there may be reason. Until it is sorted out, it should remain, until
sorted out otherwise. Many terrorist have been on lists, and we all know that
violent acts have been perpetrated by individuals slipping through the cracks.
That is fact. The difference between me and some here, as well as some at the DN
is, I am not PC. History is a very valuable teacher, and promoting an agenda or
being careless has nothing to do with predudice. And to the agenda thing, wait a
day or two, there will be a similar story tearing at heart strings of those who
do not know history.
It's good to see good people step up to help out a family caught in the
mindless gears of the security theater bureaucracy.
P Bundy, I wish I could give your comment 1000 "likes".Very
to-the-point, and compassionate.
@BamafoneI guess LDS missionaries who travel often should also be
placed on "no fly lists"?If the DN's agenda is to see
that we remain a country with freedom of religion, where not only it's
missionaries but also those of other faiths (who are citizens) may freely leave
and come back well I guess you nailed them buddy. Good work. Thanks for
outing them for the rest of us.
I'm guessing he will think twice before leaving the country next time.
That pilot needs a huge PR acknowledgment for doing the right thing.
For those who complain about illegal immigrants -- consider this as yet another
reveal of a major systemic bureaucratic problem. Five years of bureaucratic
processing to be finally system blessed, only to be received like this? There is no justification for that kind of (sadly normal) delay. The
Immigration system is broken.
Oh please bamafone, what exactly is the "Deseret News agenda?"God bless this family and the pilot who stepped up and did the right thing.
Hmmmm . . .Please enlighten me as to the "DN Agenda?" A US
citizen, with legally documented family members, has flown back/forth multiple
times and now on a no-fly list? Props to the AA pilot, although I'm
sure he'll be visiting the Chief Pilot's office for a chat!
It sure indicates again how important family is. We had a similar situation
wherein we could not get our new son in law into the United States even though
he was not on any "lists". Senator Hatch intervened and he is here!
The Deseret News agenda proudly on display
If I were him, and I'd read some of the things people had said on this
website about me, I'd avoid coming back to Utah at all costs. The bigotry
and islamophobia on display here over the last couple of days has been