"Soccer is a smart person's sport"frisco:And yet, when you read an article about lacrosse, you never see the word
"hooligan", do you?
@ all posters complaining about no soccer, hockey, etc.You all seem
to have skipped over the part of the anonymous donor donating millions of
dollars to the U for LAX. if the donor donated money for soccer then there would
be soccer. Same goes for hockey, track and field or anything else. If the donor
paid for LAX, then the U is getting LAX.
Lacrosse? Why in the world would you pick up Lacrosse before men's
Track and Field. The Pac 12 is one of the best track conferences in the
country. UT has some great athletes to choose from.
@ Johnny SLC - Soccer is a smart person's sport & NCAA D1 programs are
about competition before entertainment. If you want entertainment, go watch
NASCAR. @ wake 666 - you're simply incorrect and uninformed
about this. UNM has a very strong men's soccer program and New Mexico still
shares a boarder with Utah. Not to mention UNLV with a decent Men's soccer
program and Nevada still sharing a boarder with Utah. How about DU and Air
Force, both with established D1 men's teams in a boring state? And do you really see the U pulling players from strong East Coast club
programs? Where if they can't get on at Hopkins, Duke, UNC, Maryland, Notre
Dame, CUSE, VA, Va Tech, etc. they still have all the Ivy's to choose from
and if that's not enough, they have really strong LAX programs at small
schools like James Madison, Hofstra, Colgate, etc. etc. all much closer to home
and with established competitive LAX programs. Is this the worst
move ever? No, but it's bizarre to add a sport that they will be guaranteed
bottom dwellers for decades to come + no recruiting pipelines what so ever +
having to build a facility for it and no conference to play in. Come on, think
objectively about it.
Absolutely love that the UofU is doing this! I'm really proud of all the
work that all the players and volunteer coaches up there have done over the past
few decades to make this even a possibility. Congrats Utes!
so, what league are/will they be in for LAX? since no other PAC12 schools
participate, do they play AF and Denver a few times a year and venture out
east?thanks in advance
FriscoUte-You answered your own question- The PAC-12 has a bunch of
established men's soccer programs- UCLA, Stanford, etc. have some of the
best programs in the country, and with their respective talent beds, will never
be surpassed by Utah. Why put the money in to field a perpetual 5th or 6th place
soccer team? CU, UO, USC, etc. all COULD have soccer, but see no advantage in
it, because they'll never win.Rather than play catch-up, U of U
is going to be a leader, and have early-mover advantage. Look how it has played
out for U of Denver (who has won the NCAA title and been very competitive, and
to a less extent USAFA. DU won the title by recruiting Colorado, California, and
Canada- Utah will be the closest program to CA, which produces a fair number of
D1 players. As for Utah high school lax, it's a chicken-egg
thing. Should the U wait until the high schools improve, or help it along by
starting a program? There are no WCC or full time-WAC schools in
states adjacent to Utah... Pacific, in Stockton, CA, is the closest WCC school
to Utah. This move, yes, looks specious now, but will look very wise
ten years from now.
Lacrosse has been the fastest growing high school sport for nearly 2 decades
now, so moving the Utes to the D1 level NOW is definitely the right move.
It'll give us a leg up on the competition for when the rest of our Pac-12
brethren decide to join. In fact, our decision to add Lacrosse might just be
what would spur the others to likewise add LAX, as they might be thinking that
there won't be enough D1 programs in the west to make sense. But with Utah
joining Denver and Air Force as the westernmost teams, all it would take for us
to form our own conference would be maybe 2 more teams. The ACC has only 5
teams in their league, and the BigTen, Big East, and Colonial leagues all have
about 6. And since I think it would be reasonable to believe that Denver (Big
East) and Air Force (SoCon) may be persuaded to leave their respective leagues
in favor of joining one that would seriously cut down on their travel costs.GO UTES!
FriscoUte:The decision to add lacrosse may have something to do with
the simple fact that to many, the game is fast-paced and is much more
entertainIng to watch than soccer.
IMO - this is a questionable move by the U admin. No Men's
soccer? With a great competitive player base already in the state of Utah + an
excellent travel partner in UVU (already a strong program) to help attract top
level sides from out of state + the PAC12 is a VERY strong soccer league for the
schools that sponsor - UCLA, CAL, WA, Stanford, O State all well established
programs. The U's campus already has a class facility for soccer &
additional existing infrastructure to support a successful program. Not to
mention being surrounded by men's soccer programs in the WAC & the WCC
that give good competition in states adjacent to UT.Even Ice Hockey
seems a more logical move, with the primo ice facility (directly across the
street). And a much stronger (than LAX) HS varsity league + some strong clubs
to boot! UT's HS LAX league is still in it's infancy at
best + no existing LAX facility at the U & no conference? + travel? In CA, LAX is further established than in UT. CA has loads of strong HS
teams, tons of pay to play club LAX teams & still NO college programs??? IMO
- this is because the CA LAX scene knows that the West is still light years
behind the East Coast in LAX.
That is really really cool!