Ariz. Sen. Jeff Flake dubbed 'one of the heroes' after Scalise shooting, Utah officials react

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  • AzPete Mesa, AZ
    June 15, 2017 4:49 p.m.

    @FT and @Tolstoy - What "meaningful solutions" and "sensible gun laws" do you propose? And how would they have made a difference in any of the recent shooter situations?

    How does disarming law abiding citizens better protect them from those who do not obey the law?

  • liberal larry Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2017 8:26 a.m.

    Although Flake's actions were laudable, they don't make him a hero!

    A hero is the fireman who runs into the burning building to save a life, the soldier who advances in the face of enemy fire, and the law enforcement person who goes to work every day.

    A lot of people do a lot of good things, but let's save the word "hero" for those few, rare instances of people who voluntarily help others in the face of huge personal risk.

  • Say No to Trump Payson, UT
    June 14, 2017 7:01 p.m.

    A tragic event!

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 14, 2017 5:44 p.m.

    @ArizonaMormon
    Trained professionals saved life'stoday. Trained professionals that would have to face less situations were they were outgunned by bad guys if we had sensible gun laws.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 14, 2017 4:02 p.m.

    @kaysvillecougar
    In my opinion what is shameful are the thousands of innocent people that have been killed already this year due to firearms and the lack of response or concern by millions of Americans. This was just another incident with the only difference being it involved public officials. After Sandy Hook and the lack of response from politicians I became convinced that we as a country have become immune to firearm deaths. Our politicians have become servants to special interests. Why are there so many guns? Why are there so many innocent people slaughtered and maimed each year? Why do continually elect politicians who refuse to address the situation and offer meaningful solutions?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 14, 2017 2:06 p.m.

    Kaysville, if now is not the time to try to discuss things like this, when will be?

    It never takes more than a few seconds for "conservatives" to start demonizing and politicizing their favorite causes. Welcome to America and the First Amendment.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 14, 2017 1:05 p.m.

    Wow, our favorite liberals are out in force politicizing a tragedy like this. How shameful. There are times and places for those discussions. This isn't one of those times.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 14, 2017 12:52 p.m.

    No, Airnaut, this probably won't bring about any sensible changes in gun laws.

    Most likely just the opposite.

    Now we'll hear shouts that every Republican needs to be armed to defend against those "liberals."

    Remember, the only thing that can stop a Liberal with a gun is a Conservative with an even bigger gun.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    June 14, 2017 11:18 a.m.

    Hmm...

    Perhaps since this shooter targeted a REPUBLICAN,
    that NOW there might be some discussion of background checks by Republicans...

    ...maybe?... perhaps?.... please?

    BTW --
    A young woman, her 6 year old son, were killed and another son and good Samaritans child were gunned down last week right here.

    Utah Government delegation were completely silent about that.
    I reckon it only warrants outrage or comment when it's one of 'them'.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 14, 2017 10:57 a.m.

    Imagine if that shooter didn't have a gun. Imagine if he'd only had a knife, or whatever else he could round up in his garage. How many less people would have been hurt today.

    Guns may have had a place in the 18th century, to stop armed soldiers from demanding to stay in your house. But what benefit do guns provide in modern society? I mean, besides making certain men feel more manly...

  • Sore loser Oakland, CA
    June 14, 2017 10:52 a.m.

    I am not sure if Flake was a hero. The police and the doctor who treated Scalise were. What did he do heroically, apply some pressure to an injury? That's kind of a low bar

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    June 14, 2017 10:44 a.m.

    Impartial, there were armed men there shooting back. The Capitol Police that guard the majority whip that go hurt were shooting back and got the bad guy.

    Personally, I never carry my personal firearm when I'm playing or reffing a sport. But it is always near by. So your assertion that they should have been armed themselves is just a plain, uneducated statement.

    The bad guy was apparently a Bernie supporter according to Facebook posts published on several news sites. So this is nothing more than a pissed off lefty with a weapon.

    Yes, Trump might have said something stupid during the campaign about Hillary, but when have any NRA supporters ever caused something like this? The answer is never.

    This shooting is a direct result of the venom from the left and their hatred of Trump, and specifically targeted Republicans.

    By the way, I do have personal knowledge of politicians that do pack concealed weapons. Even in Washington.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 14, 2017 10:16 a.m.

    @Husker1
    "Politicizing this tragedy is very classless."
    Oh it will get politicized(and it already has) but I think you're more upset about the timing of my comment. Sandy Hook was politicized before all those children were even buried.

  • ArizonaMormon Mesa, AZ
    June 14, 2017 10:03 a.m.

    @Impartial7

    Armed Capital Police were in site and shot the gunman. Good guys with guns did in fact save lives today.

  • Facts are friendly Sandy, UT
    June 14, 2017 10:00 a.m.

    We are now shooting Republican congressman while playing softball?

    Wow...just wow.

  • Husker1 Northern Utah County, UT
    June 14, 2017 9:53 a.m.

    @FT "Other than thoughts and prayers our GOP representatives will wait until they get the NRA's statement to the event before offering a political response."

    Politicizing this tragedy is very classless.

    "I don't understand. This was a large group of NRA funded GOP politicians. The one's that tell us, every time that there's a mass shooting, that we need more guns, not restrictions. "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". Why weren't these guys armed and shooting back?"

    They weren't armed because they were playing baseball. Plus, politicians don't typically carry firearms for obvious reasons. By all accounts, good guys with guns did come to the rescue.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 14, 2017 9:47 a.m.

    @nickeson;
    "After the baseball practice shooting, it is time to file appropriate charges of inciting violence against public figures promoting violence such as"

    Like when Trump suggested that "the second amendment people" do something to take care of Hillary? Like that?

  • Nickeson Bicknell, UT
    June 14, 2017 9:27 a.m.

    After the baseball practice shooting, it is time to file appropriate charges of inciting violence against public figures promoting violence such as: Madonna, Kathy Griffin,Snoop Dog,the recent Washington play, the parties encouraging violent protests at gov. public meetings and those paying violent protesters.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 14, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    I don't understand. This was a large group of NRA funded GOP politicians. The one's that tell us, every time that there's a mass shooting, that we need more guns, not restrictions. "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". Why weren't these guys armed and shooting back?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 14, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    Other than thoughts and prayers our GOP representatives will wait until they get the NRA's statement to the event before offering a political response.