@ ModerateRead the article again (i.e., Title IX office [within BYU]
reported honor code violations to the Honor Code office [within BYU]). Police
are legally obligated to report to institutions when rapes occur on or are
associated with the institutions. It's called Title IX. And Title IX
offices have the legal obligation to investigate, which may uncover code of
conduct violations by those involved. Turning a blind eye to code of conduct
violations for crime victims is unwarranted. It is the victim that would be
choosing to let his/her rapist go free in order to avoid punishment for code of
conduct violations. It is a costs/benefits analysis. The underreporting of crime
is immaterial to proposing legislation that compels institutions to grant code
of conduct amnesty for rape victims.
It's pretty clear that this is in response to BYU, Westminster, and the
University of Utah all being placed under federal investigation for their
handling of sexual assault cases (particularly BYU, since the honor code forbids
the use of alcohol and drugs). My question is as follows: after public outcry
made people realize that there was an issue, why are we just now seeing
legislators ponder solutions a year afterward? BYU has revised their policies
and separated the Honor Code Office from the Title IX office, Westminster has
also made changes, and I'm sure the U has, too. In other words, the law is
just untimely bloated nonsense to win some votes from a few uninformed citizens
while ignoring the real issues at hand.
DrMan "I just don't understand what the code of conduct violations have
to do with the rapes" When a student is raped, they normally report it
to the police. Unfortunately, the police took it upon themselves to forward the
matter to the honor code office.Knowing that the local police
department would forward the complaint, students hesitate to report a crime.
Because students are reluctant to report a crime, a rapist goes free. Other
students believe the campus is safe because they see a low crime statistic. The
statistic is falsely low, and hides the fact that the crime rate is higher, just
unreported. Worse, it hides the fact that rapists run free.
No BIG12 for BYU.
If I'm growing weed in my house and I am the victim of a home invasion, the
cops who come to investigate the home invasion aren't going to give me a
pass (AKA, amnesty) on my weed-growing antics because I'm now the victim of
a home invasion. Now, if I'm not willing to come forth to report the home
invasion because the cops will find out about my weed (and, hence, let the home
invasion perpetrators get away with it), that's my own stupid fault for
growing weed! I don't have a leg to stand on trying to blame the
government/law enforcement for me not reporting the invasion because of their
stance against and associated consequences with growing weed. The one has
absolutely nothing to do with the other!I just don't understand
what the code of conduct violations have to do with the rapes such that the code
of conduct violations would be overlooked when investigating the rapes. This
just makes no sense.
Wow, Brent T. of Aurora CO. You realize that this is an article about sexual
assault, right? Sexual assault is not about "exercising poor
judgement". It is a crime against a victim.
A woman who has unprotected sex and ends up with an STD or pregnant is culpable.
These are possible and reasonable consequences of not protecting yourself. In
the same way, drinking and drug use (lowering your protection by compromising
your mental and physical faculties), while not excusing the rapist, makes you
culpable. Giving a pass on stupid, as well as unsanctioned behavior, is yet one
more ill advised capitulation to exercising poor judgement. As well it
certainly clouds the determination of consent.While my message to my
daughters, and now my granddaughters, would be abstinence until marriage and
never consuming alcohol or using drugs, it would clearly be that CHOOSING to do,
impairing yourself, is asking for trouble, implies interest/consent, and is not
a valid excuse for the expected outcome from foolish decisions.