If Jason is a lawyer then he knows full well he can make alot more money at a
law firm than in fighting Democrats. I say go for it Jason!!
@loweye 4:13,RE: "So I guess I'm a drain on society"...---I didn't say you were a drain on society. Read my post.
Don't assume.===RanchHand -10:12 a.m.RE"
@2 bits; Funny thing about your comment. You imply that the 24 Million Americans
Trump will kick off health care are not taxpayers too.---No. In
fact I said the exact opposite. Read my post. I said "319
million American tax payers". Google "Population of USA".
It's 319 Million. So I clearly included all of us in the "tax
payer" category. We all pay taxes.Where did I say the 24
million are not tax payers?===I wish you guys would quit
speaking for me, and saying I said things I didn't say, in your assuming I
say what you think I should say (according to your political stereotypes).I only said he may have been talking about Trump being for all Americans
(not just the 24 million in CBI report, but the whole 319 million who pay
taxes)Sometimes politicians focus on the poor, or the rich. I hope
Trump is for ALL Americans (rich and poor). We are all tax payers. Even
Loweye who doesn't pay Federal Income Taxes, pays other taxes.I'm saying a President who's for the tax payers is for all of us.
@Eastern Co Coug "Socialism and religion clash."When
socialist sci-fi writer wanted to find in his view the most socialist part of
the U.S. he found it in 1890's Brigham City. The result was the famous
sci-fi novel "Looking Backward."
I am so amazed by the comments on this article. Have the liberals taken over
Utah? Or is it that Liberals/media try to shout down everybody that opposes
them? Real freedom of speech! Trump won for several reasons. People see our
values go down a rat hole and many fine religious people held their noses while
they voted for Trump. At least he wanted to give back the country to the
people. People like Chaffetz for many reasons. People have had enough of this
government and the socialist push of the left. Colorado has gone liberal and we
are becoming a huge social mess here. California here we come! CA is broke and
ONLY the Feds are keeping the state from collapsing. Go Greece and Spain and EU!
The far left will first push medical marijuana - then recreational marijuana.
Youth in CO have big time access to Marijuana. Lives are being ruined. Religion
is out of most people's lives here and families are a mess. Socialism and
religion clash. Watch out Christians and Guns. Drugs are more than fine
Run Jason the sky is falling. Save yourself and never mind all the damaged you
have caused. Soon Donald J. Trump's Russian connection will be
exposed and he will be impeached! All near him will jump from office to save
themselves. Billionaires in government office? Now that is funny!
@2bits "Read the CBI report that estimated as many as 24 million fewer may
be insured by 2026. Didn't say anybody would be kicked off. It said up to
24 million may decide they can't afford insurance."Of
course these means 24 million people without health care. And you wonder why so
many are angry and scared.I can promise you something 2bits. If
this goes down there will be a socialist revolt in this country! I guarantee
I love my home state and miss so many things about it. But I haven't
missed our political naÏvetÉ.There are situations &
occasions when going with a highly skilled outsider is best, but this should be
uncommon in politics. Deep-rooted bonds greatly influence what receives
attention. Yet like Cannon, Hatch, Romney & Lee, Chaffetz didn't grow
up here. He (or in Lee's case, his father) only came to Utah to attend
BYU, with no intention of staying permanently. None of them has ancestors from
Utah or a material Utah heritage at all. They were barely permanent residents
of Utah before being elected to Washington, where he has spent the majority of
his time since. And in Washington he has focused extensively on (1) building
his national brand image via committee work, and (2) doing the weird
"fundraising calls down the street for many hours every week" thing, --
both at the expense of time working on Utah's behalf. It's a bad
pattern. Even "native son" Bob Bennett lived in Washington the majority
of his life. I say this with respect, but he chose to spend his final days and
to pass away in Washington because it was home for him. Utah's
electoral culture is truly broken.
Frozen FractalsYou said: "a retiring member of Congress can
focus more on doing what they feel is right rather than feeling like they need
to do what is necessary to be re-elected".Would that this is
what most retiring members do. However, many of them go on to make buckets of
money based on who/what they know about how things really work in Washington
DC.Going to work in Corporate America is bad enough, but so many
retired members of Congress and the Senate become lobbyists. (So do many of
their family members.) Their ought be a special place in the afterlife for
those who now peddle their influence and contacts like this. A common thief has
2bits,You're right about tax payers paying for insurance.
That's why the 1% won't be paying for insurance--because they
DON'T pay taxes. The Paul Ryan version of healthcare was meant to save
money by making the lower income Americans pay for it so that the big money
makers can have yet another perk. Trump has made that his rich donars become
even more rich.And it's true that most of the poor you look
down on are working. They're rightfully called the working poor. And many
of them don't pay taxes because they don't make enough. I
have not paid taxes for years because I was one of those working poor and since
I retired last year I have even less to pay taxes on. So I guess I'm a
drain on society, a society that has really never existed, except for the rich.
The Donald and coming storm.
On the plus side, a retiring member of Congress can focus more on doing what
they feel is right rather than feeling like they need to do what is necessary to
Jay Evensen: Why are you really leaving, Jason Chaffetz?====== My 2 guesses :1. Family trouble.or 2. [and most
likely] the bully-in-chief Donald Trump threatened him if ever investigated
@2 bits;Funny thing about your comment. You imply that the 24
Million Americans Trump will kick off health care are not taxpayers too.I guess they don't deserve coverage though. After all,
they're just poor.
Oh, please . . . everybody knows why Chaffetz is quitting now. There's
nothing to "investigate" now that the Republicans are in charge, so
he's losing his spotlight. Back in Utah, he'll pick up
some big cash from the MLMs he used to work for and then run for governor, and
then president, and why not "Dancing with the Stars"?
@Misty,RE: "Kicking tens of millions off health insurance is putting
America first?"---In a way... yes.To see how
it's putting Americans first, you have to look at America as a whole.
People receiving subsidized health insurance are not the only Americans. Trump
is for the hundreds of millions of American Tax Payers too. They are Americans
too you know.Maybe that's what Gravy was getting at. I'm
not sure. But I know tax payers are Americans too. And I'm glad we have
a President who cares about us too now.To put it in perspective...
there are 319 million American tax payers. If 24 Million decided insurance is
too expensive and drop it, he could still be for Americans if he is for the tax
payers.BTW... I think Trump cares about the poor too. GOP plan
included subsidies for the poor. GOP plan did not kick anybody off their
insurance.Read the CBI report that estimated as many as 24 million
fewer may be insured by 2026. Didn't say anybody would be kicked off.It said up to 24 million may decide they can't afford insurance.That may happen by 2026 under ACA as well. Insurance premiums are going
up each year. Especially ACA plans.
Rep Chaffetz apologists suggest we should take him literally and at his word for
leaving his office.Funny, Rep Chaffetz rarely did that when pursuing
Democrats and alleged misdeeds.I suppose once again, sauce for the
goose is not sauce for the gander.
@Herbert Gravy wrote, "Sorry, but we do not have a "despicable"
President. Any more than the one we had for the past 8 years. [We have] someone
who puts America first! "Weekly trips to go golfing in your own
resort--with the government having thousands for the golf cart rental fees for
the Secret Service people!--is putting America first, yes?Putting
your family on the government payroll shows a touching concern for America--yes?
Along with doing everything you can to keep under wraps your connections with
Russia?Kicking tens of millions off of health insurance is putting
America first? Are these people not "America"? Or are they all
"losers"--and losers don't count?
Sorry, but we do not have a "despicable" President. Any more than the
one we had for the past 8 years.Finally, someone who puts America
first! You cannot help someone else if you are not strong yourself.😁
NoNames wrote, "We do not pay congressmen enough to maintain two homes, one
of which needs to be in the DC area, one of the most expensive markets I the
nation. For the truly honest and ethical, congressional service is a real
sacrifice."Not true. There are any number of perks, from
housing allowances to paid airfare home (with free parking at the airport) that
come on top of the official salary. Of course, if he sleeps in his office, he
gets to pocket that, too. More telling question: Why didn't
he just move his family to DC--or at least close by (e.g. Maryland / Virginia)
for the rest of his term? Lots of congressmen do just that.Regarding the domain names he just registered a few weeks ago--that was then.
Many scandals were kept under wraps for years--and then came to light with
only a few days warning. Bob Livingston can tell you about that. So can Newt
Gingrich. And Aaron Schock. And Dennis Hastert.
As a lifelong Republican I am very embarrassed with the state of our politics
now. Republicans talked for eight years to about how they had the answers to the
pressing issues of our nation and now they finally have the reins it comes to
light that there was never really a plan at all, except to lower taxes for the
wealthy.The last eight years Rep Chaffetz got to play the defender
of conservative values without actually having to commit or do anything. Now
that he's getting shade for not investigating his own party and criticism
for his party's laws, and he's not having fun anymore. It's easy to look at someone else's work and find flaws. It's
far harder to create something. I hope the person who replaces him is ready to
work and get things done - even if it means reaching across the aisle
occasionally (gasp! the horror!)
Read the article on the domain names he registered. His next move is probably
going after Hatch's or Lee's senate seat as a launch pad for his
presidential bid.I can't imagine that tea party demagogue as
the leader of the free world. That'd be like, I don't know -- like
having some dark & crazy billionaire businessman in the oval office.
Gettin' while the gettin's good. Someone in an oversight role
should have seen it coming. It's going to splatter far and wide.
Until Utah Republicans come to understand the despicable president we have
elected and everything which trails from him, they will not understand what is
happening in the congress and the administration: Chaffetz, Nunes, Carter Page,
and the list will only grow.
I very much hope Chaffetz really just wants to get out of the Washington swamp,
and that's it. But what breeds suspicion has been his absolute refusal to
examine the Russian involvement with Trump's election. He was so eager to
nail Clinton to the barn door, and at the same time so circumspect with Trump,
around whom there are questions galore. Why has Chaffetz dodged his
responsibility with Trump?And now the seemingly desperate departure.
This smells. There's no getting around it.
He's a quitter. ..
Maybe he's tired of people's never ending watchful eye, trying to
constantly find reasons to criticize. This doesn't mean he's been
perfect, but that has got to get old. It's fine to step out into normal
life again, and sounds like he feels that is best for him.
If Chaffetz follows through on his statement today and leaves before the end of
this term then he is breaking his contract to represent his district for two
years. This is especially true if his motive really is to rejoin the private
sector, which in politispeak translates as "cash in on my game while I still
can."Public servant? Turns out, not so much.
I would be interested to know what Donald Trump said to Jason Chaffetz in their
private meeting in the Oval Office a few weeks ago.I think there is
more to this story...MUCH more...
There is no reason we should take him at his word, because he has used words in
the past and then changed those words. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me
twice, shame on me. I don't believe Jason. There is no reason I should,
because he has changed his mind too many times. Anyone remember the fable
"The Boy Who Cried Wolf"?
It is a shame that in an effort to write an article that highlights why we
should accept Rep. Chaffetz at his word, the author ended up promulgating a lot
of nasty rumors that really don't need to be furthered. I'm sure this
was unintended. But from the comments I think it has been the unfortunate
effect.I'm sorry to see Chaffetz leaving. I think he has done
good work.But I can fully understand why 10 years of sleeping on a
cot in the office, away from his family is long enough.The real
question isn't why Chaffetz is leaving after 10 years, but why others stay
so long.We do not pay congressmen enough to maintain two homes, one
of which needs to be in the DC area, one of the most expensive markets I the
nation. For the truly honest and ethical, congressional service is a real
sacrifice.Those who are making a bunch of money while serving in
congress are obviously taking advantage of legal, but unethical loopholes
(insider trading, for example) available only to members of congress.I wish Rep. Chaffetz the best, hope he completes his term before quitting, and
is replaced by another solid conservative.
This comes across as a mean-spirited article Jay. Maybe we all can accept Jason
Chaffetz words at face value and in the meantime appreciate his service on our
What if he's leaving because he wants to do something else, and live at
home with his family... like he says?Have you ever changed jobs? I
have.Sometimes it's because you want to pursue a different
(maybe even better) opportunity. Or a quality of live issue.Living
in Washington and dealing with those egos is not for everybody.Why
do so many jaded people leap to the assumption that he must have sinned or done
something wrong? Maybe he's just moving on to something else (like he
I hope the howling banshees that showed up at the Cottonwood Heights Town Hall
meeting don't think it was their doing.If he can't handle
that (heckling) he doesn't belong in politics. Every politician deserves
some heckling, and has to be able to handle it and move on in representing the
majority of their constituents.If he quit because of that... I
don't respect that.But if he quit because he's tired of
"Politics-as-Usual" in Washington, and his party leaders insisting he
reports to them (instead of the people in his district)... then I respect
that.He's never been a politics-as-usual guy. From his
sleeping on a cot in his small office to save money. But he was starting to
become a "politics-as-usual" politician. And maybe that's what he
didn't like. I don't know.I doubt it's because he
sees Trump's fall coming (Like some media types assume). He's not a
Trump fan. Remember the harsh things he said about Trump during the Republican
Primary? I do. He's not a Trump fan.If he saw fall of Trump
coming... he would stay on. Because that would mean President Mike Pence. He
is a Mike Pence fan.I like people who serve and then leave politics.
This decision goes against political perpetual motion, so of course it's
suspect. I guess we'll wait and see. You get certain things when each
party is in power and many of those things are not good. Perhaps someday
American's will get tired of simply having to pick-your-poison. I choose
Republican over Democrat and patiently wait for a still better choice. I look
at the Democratic National leadership and run! So when you pick a
"person" over a "party" you find they are gradually pulled into
the party line. Those who resist this pull are eaten by their own.
Seems more likely Chaffetz took a look in the mirror and he didn't like
what he saw. Mirrors are bad things for a lot of Republicans.
David,I too have voted R for most of my life. And I voted for GW
Bush once (until he and his group pushed us into a completely useless and costly
war) I finally realize that the GOP is not fiscally conservative. They cut
programs that help people. They cut taxes for the wealthy. And then they spend
it all on more military.I believe that both the Dems and the Reps
are leading us down the tubes. I just like the Dems path a bit better at this
point.I completely agree with everything you wrote.
"Was it no longer fun to head the House Oversight Committee without a
Democrat in the White House to oversee? Did someone have dirt on you we never
will see?"I'm guessing both. Chaffetz is a proven self
serving opportunist. Doesn't add up. He doesn't walk away from TV
cameras. There's got to be something hidden.
Jay Evensen: Why are you really leaving, Jason Chaffetz?======= My guess -- He is responsible for the House investigation of
Donald Trump.He is getting pasted by not only his constituents in
town-hall meetings, but is getting pounced by the entire Nation for NOT
doing his JOB!and since he is such the Republican lackey, he
can't bear himself to do it.Investigating Trump will make him
look like not only an enemy of Trump, but as a traitor to all the
Republicans throwing themselves on a sword to defend him.Politically
- Jason Chaffetz made a politically smart move.Donald Trump will soon be
gone, and Chaffetz will jump back onto the game once the smoke has
I have been a Republican my entire life and am watching carefully to see whether
the Republican Party is as hypocritical as the opposition, and will do nothing
to reign in federal spending, reform Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security, and
reform taxes as they have called for years; or whether they will act like the
opposition and spend like crazy while in power and work to secure their own
political strength.I am not very optimistic. Especially with a
president that is definitely not conservative.