There are many aspects of the Monument, not just public policy.
RepertoryDanceTheater and UtahDineBikeyah are approaching the area as
everyone's land that we should be celebrating. In particular we should be
celebrating the unprecedented coming together of 5 tribes to advocate for the
protection of this cultural-rich area and for those tribes to become co-managers
of it. Long before Zinke decided to show up RDT commissioned a work by NYC-based
Zvi Gotheiner which I hope will add a level of gravitas to how public lands get
perceived by Utahns and others. That the Company is down there together with
Zinke at this moment is a coincidence, but underscores that there is more than
one way to see the issue. We can view it collectively as a cultural and
Unfortunately, I see the Native Americans once again being used as pawns in a
chess match where the King (Certain Federal Agencies) is doing his best to avoid
check-mate by The People, and a State that keeps blaring their voices out
their Rook window, seemingly always one step behind. In the meantime, Native
Americans are being used on both sides of the board. I wish that Native
Americans would use their own voice, climb on their Knight, and let out a war
cry. Why fight for a voice in a monument co-council when you can fight to
finally own something, anything. Most Americans do not understand that the
Government "already" owns and manages over 56 million acres of Sacred
Native Land, called Reservations. If Native Americans' co-voice in Bears
Ears equals their voice in the current land held "in-trust" by the US
Government then they have very little to look forward to, and very little to
trust. This fight, if we are going to include Native Americans, should not be
about a monument, rather it should be about poverty and reliance on a Government
who needs to let "individual" Native Americans finally own property on
the playing board, then everyone can play Monopoly together.
This op-ed doesn't make any sense. It seems more like a tirade against the
federal government than an argument against the BENM. What information has
been forced upon Utahns? The BENM boundaries are the same as Rep.
Bishop's PLI bill, all existing uses remain in place, and Native Americans
will, for the first time in history, be allowed to manage an area that is scared
toi them in a way that will preserve their heritage and educate others about
their important history, Also important, the natural habitat will be spared
from further mining, logging, and real estate development. I ask again what has
been forced upon Utahns?? Everyone knows the real issue is about allowing
more oil and gas exploration, coal mining, logging and real estate development.
The BENM benefits all native or non-native Americans who are the real owners of
this awesome cultural landscape.
Some of us have been advocating for wilderness designation of the Bears Ears
area for more than 35 years. With the one exception of Dark Canyon Wilderness
(1984), the Utah congressional delegation has long ignored the obvious need for
recognition and protection of wilderness values in San Juan County.President Obama did the right thing. Now it's up to the federal
government, the tribal governments, and all concerned citizens to devise better
ways to manage this unique world-class national monument. All of us in Utah
ought to be grateful that so much of our state merits special recognition. BTW I am a U.S. Army veteran. We can all wave the flag equally as
I know it won't happen but I would love to see a Dnews editorial about the
positive sides to Monuments and National Parks. Can anyone imagine Utah
without Zion, Arches, Canyonlands, Bryce or Capital Reef? The locals opposed all
of those designations as well.Look at the businesses in Escalante, they
are all grateful for GSENM.Why doesn't the Dnews publish a pro op-ed
written by one of the many tribes who support the monument?
“Why incorporate a national monument when there are already existing
federal protections for the land for every single reason that creating a
monument was called for?”“Existing federal
protections” were not sufficient to keep the good citizens of San Juan
County from looting the graves. They weren’t enough to keep Mr. Lyman and
his friends on the proper paths. How, specifically, would local control have
better protected this land? Or do you not care, since it’s not *your*
ancestors who are buried there?“With all these levels of
protection, how did the monument still happen?”Well, not
everybody thought that oil wells and strip mines enhance the beauty of the land.
Because the R’s budget was short on enforcement money. Because the
locals who were “caring” for the land were also looting the
gravesites. For local control at its finest, look at the satellite
view of Eastern Kentucky. Even 300 miles up in the air, you can clearly see
the results. Those beige blobs on those beautiful hills aren’t
clouds--they are abandoned strip mines, destroyed by the coal industry.
@kigalia wrote, "San Juan County's public land has remained
"pristine"for hundreds of years".Sure has. Remember in
May 2014 when Phil Lyman led that backpacking tour of Recapture Canyon just to
illustrate how respectfully the locals have cared for the land over the last 150
years? And at the very moment that Lyman & Co. were posing for the
cameras, showing the world that all of the thousands of graves in Bears Ears
have remained untouched, the evil federal agents were ripping up Blanding
Cemetery with their ATVs. This is what I remember. I suppose
it's possible that I might have gotten a few details wrong.
The author brings up twice that he is a veteran. While I applaud people for
making this choice I don't see how it gives anyone extra credibility on any
topic that they want. Stop using your military background as a prop,
it cheapens the title.
Bears Ears is not Navajo Nation land but is a place that has many native
artifacts but then all of southern Utah is. You can find artifacts anywhere down
there. Every Navajo home on the reservation outside the few cities uses a
wood stove and Bears Ears is a popular wood gathering locationAnd nobody
is drilling or mining anywhere near this place, that is an environmentalist
scare tacticSome of Bears Ears is cool but no cooler than most other land
is southern Utah or northern Arizona.
This piece contains so many pieces of misinformation it's almost impossible
to know where to start.
Yes, elections do have consequences, and that is why we support Utah's duly
elected congressmen, and Governor in their united efforts to rescind this ill
thought out 1.3 million disaster. Why would a country $20 Trillion dollars in
debt, keep tying up more land and layering on more federal restrictions, that
are unneeded and can't be paid for without more debt? San Juan
County's public land has remained "pristine"for hundreds of years,
and now the environmental community wants us to turn to tourism as the only
valid economy base? Moab's household median income is even less than San
Juan County's and they have had a "booming" tourism for decades.
When we turn away from multiple use, we are turning to government serfdom in
communities adjacent to National Parks and Monuments. See what has happened on
most reservations, when they were forced to be wards of the government. Free
enterprise should be encouraged, not decried.Despite the pros and cons of
using natural resources, and the rise and fall of markets, taxes from uranium
and oil built the schools in San Juan County, and paved the roads. A wide a
varied businesses is needed to be "self-sustaining" in a healthy
@ Laura BillinghamParks do vary in size. I agree that is not news
or relevant. That they vary is size though is very relevant in regards to the
statute and the examples of previous monuments and how limited they were and how
focused they were to actually only protect a treasure. What is relevant is
does the monument follow the statute it was built on. "the limits of which
in all cases shall be confined to the smallest area compatible with the proper
care and management of the objects to be protected." Does Canyon de chelly
lock up all of the Navajo reservation land that has loads of relics or just what
is a treasure to be protected?Most commenters on here I doubt have
even been to Bears Ears. I've been there, and most of it is just a wide
expanse of......land. There are some treasures to be had, but not 1.3 million
acres of treasures. It is very similar to wide expanses of land also with the
possibility of indian relics all through New Mexico, Arizona, and Colorado.
There is a strong argument that most of it is just a lot of open space with not
a lot of special geographical or historical significance. Protect what is
special and keep it at that.
This from Ryan Benally As a result, nearly all of San Juan County’s
natives sat in a Senate’s Energy and Natural Resources Committee hearing
in Blanding, Utah, last summer. They spoke to our elected Utah leaders about why
another national monument was the wrong answer to protecting lands we all share.
Why incorporate a national monument when there are already existing federal
protections for the land for every single reason that creating a monument was
called for?With all these levels of protection, how did the monument still
happen? Years ago, out-of-state business organizations and radical environmental
groups tried to implement a “wilderness area” — the
legislative equivalent to a national monument. The boundary proposal was
suspiciously the exact dimensions as what Bears Ears National Monument is today.
One of these environmental groups in southern Utah has a yearly income of
over 2 million dollars, spent over 100 thousand for a director, 225 thousand for
legal fees, 1.2 million on Wilderness studies, 500 thousand on RS2477 studies,
and 50 thousand on lobbying (probably easterners/ the President or out of State
tribes.Sometimes you get what you pay for but did we need it?
@cmsense wrote, " For comparison, Canyonlands National park is
337,598 acres, but Bears Ears is 1,351,849 acres. "You are
correct.And Lake Clark National Park has 4,045,000 acres and Hot
Springs national Park has 5549 acres. Parks vary in size. This
isn't news. And monuments vary in size. Also not news. Now
if you took part of your back lawn and made it into a vegetable garden, would
your neighbors be justified in calling that a "land grab"?
If Navajo wiseman Mark Maryboy was opposed to BENM, and then came to support it,
Utahns of all stripes should consider taking the same position.Mark
Maryboy's long record of advocating for Native American interests (and even
voting rights) in San Juan County speaks for itself. Nobody is
going to pull the wool over Maryboy's eyes.BENM is the right
thing to do.
"..our disenfranchised native people who were scared to enter the monument
for wood gathering."I'm not surprised that they are scared.
Remember reading about the millions that that the feds are spending for armed
guards to block the paths of Bears' Ears? Oh, sorry, my mistake.
That's the additional expense for the security detail for Trump's
family.But they should be scared, because--well, you remember
reading about the raids on native American woodpiles, where they were looking
for scrounged wood to see if it came from Bears' Ears? Oh, no, my mistake
again. I'm thinking of the ICE raids on the Mexicans gathered at the Home
Depot parking lot. Maybe it's because we're having an
uncommonly cold winter and there's a fuel shortage? I know, it's
April and it was 72° yesterday, but it might get really cold tonight....Perhaps the writer could give us the contact information for a few
native Americans and I could ask them just why they are "scared"? Also
I'd like to know just how many cords of firewood they gathered in the
Bears' Ears monument area in the 2010-2016 calendar years.
Our family spent a number of days down there last year. There are a few cool
areas like Natural Bridges, and Valley of the Gods, but when they make Bears
Ears bigger than the Grand Canyon...ie bigger than Rhode Island, it is pretty
much a huge land grab. For comparison, Canyonlands National park is 337,598
acres, but Bears Ears is 1,351,849 acres. Some have mentioned part of the park
has been leased out as a gravel pit. It is just massive. Quoting from the act
"the limits of which in all cases shall be confined to the smallest area
compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be
protected." I don't think Trump should rescind the
designation, but there is a strong argument for shrinking the monument. Compare
it to similar minded monuments...Hoovenweep, Chaco Canyon, canyon de chelly,
Walnut Canyon, Mesa Verde, Canyons of the Ancients. They could all be put in
Bears Ears and they probably wouldn't fill half of it. The
infux of tourist that will follow and the maps given will not protect the area.
It is a quite place now, but the best area's will be over run.
CB asked incorrectly: "did Pres. Obama even make an attempt to come and see
what he was going to take away from the State of Utah? How do you
take away that which Never Belonged to Utah?This is the ignorance
that our leaders like Lee, and Hatch and Bishop continually Lie to the people of
Utah about, I can't stand these liars representing our state, they dumb
down the entire population every time they speak.
RE: "Therefore, it was a cause for celebration when news spread that Gov.
Gary Herbert signed the resolution for our disenfranchised native people who
were scared to enter the monument for wood gathering."Ha! What a
bunch of Trump!It is big oil and mining interests who have a vested
monetary interest in obliterating the monument designation for bears ears.And there have ALWAYS been native Americans willing to betray their
people for a few shiny baubles.A good number of the so-called
treaties signed by native "chiefs" were signed by frauds who did NOT
represent their people.These Uncle Tom Toms should be ashamed of
themselves, but the shameless never feel shame do they?Just ask our
Ryan, our elected, local, Republican officials failed us. They had over 3 years
to get a bill thru a Republican congress and they could not. Nothing has
changed with the land we all love but with the Monument designation it's
now ensured our children and grandchildren will be able to have the same
experiences as we have been blessed have. I encourage you to join with the
other Indian tribes and work with the joint management plan that is in the
Let see, did Pres. Obama even make an attempt to come and see what he was going
to take away from the State of Utah? Seems to me it was just another Democrat
who took his revenge on a Republican State. As was said 'elections
have consequences' and what has been done, can be undone, and hopefully for
those who have care taken this area for hundreds of years, should be allowed to
continue to do so.
Sorry, but elections have consequences. President obama already declared this a
national monument. It's time for Utah thugs to stop whining and get over