tosmart wants to know who isn't paying their fair share? That is easy the
large families that are stressing the system for one. Most of them pay little
to nothing for the education of their children. The second group all of us.
Twenty years ago we were top 10 in tax dollars per $1000.00 of income going to
education. Now we are in the low 30's in tax dollars per $1000.00 of
income. How can you expect a quality education when we have more students than
any other state and we spend by far the least per student. That is a completely
illogical situation. Do we have to spend the most, no, but the spending the
least is not going to provide a high quality education.
worf, McAllen TX. You have commented on this issue more than anyone posting.
This article is about Utahans voting to increase taxes OR not to increase taxes,
specifically for education of our children. Thanks for the advice but for or
against, unless you have residency here you don't have a vote. If however
you would like Texas to share some of those oil generated tax revenues please
help that vote along in Texas.
I fully support tax deductiona for up to two children, after that its on you.
Utah may good for business, but business is not being good to Utah. Businesses
are taking away huge profits and not increasing wages or contributing enough to
the infrastructure costs. We are making the rich get richer--at least some of
the wealthy recognize their responsibility to the rest of us and are willing to
step up to the plate to make sure that our economy does not continue to be built
on industries of the past like mining, coal, oil, and gas. Two words
people--information economy. You do not get transformed to an information
economy by being last in per pupil funding--end of story. Please stop living in
the past. If you want your children to become slaves to outdated industries that
will soon be swept away leaving them with no skills and no way out of poverty,
then keep being stingy. I am sure they will thank you all for what you delivered
to them. Stop cheating children. Restore income taxes to appropriate levels.
Huntsman's plan cheated an entire generation out of an education with the
tax cuts so many pretend they never received. Will it continue for another?
Utah is the #1 business state in the nation. There are reasons for this. One
is that residents do not like tax hikes.
To those who say: "Pay their fair share..." will you please explain
just what about this Democratic buzz phrase made popular by Obama means in terms
of dollars and cents/sense? Utah already grants 100% of personal income tax and
63% of property tax to education, so who in the group of persons that pay income
tax and property tax aren't paying their "fair share?" That is a
cute but meaningless little saying.There has to be education reform,
too, not just more income tax. Traditional methods, however sacrosanct, may and
indeed need to be improved. Since the call is from business
leaders, I want to know who exactly put them in charge of education lobbying?
If they want to see more money go towards education they may certainly throw it
in the pot themselves; I'm sure it will be accepted and spent, not rejected
and returned.I call on ALL voters, young and old, to REJECT this
method of funding education. There has to be a better way.
@Al - Vernal, UT,Those with more children have increased tax
deductions.They pay less than those with no children.Sorry, but parents should pay a small tuition fee, and feed their own kids.
The rich business leaders bring alot more home than retirees. They need to
invest more, besides they will get all back through tax deductions retirees
If a person earns a high salary.Why do others feel want to increase
their taxes, and be entitled to their earnings!This is envy, and a
desire for theft.
Utah is not under taxed in terms of what it pays for education. Rather, too much
of the money being spent on education is being misallocated to School
administration pay and to pay District Personnel. The function of schools is
have good teachers teach students. Too much of the money is funneled to the
bureaucracy at the school district, and to paying high School administration
salaries and benefits.Change that before you tax anyone more than
tbey are being taxed. I liked the idea to tax tickets for
professional sporting events, if there is to be any increase in taxes.
My wife is getting close to retirement in Public School. 30 years very little
help from Utah Government and long working days and high stress. This will never
change to improve as long we see more kids growing in our state. I asked her if
she is looking to retire and she said NO because she loves her young students.
For all those who think that those who have more children should pay more for
education, newsflash, they already do. With fees, trips, etc. those with more
children already pay more than those with less. The bigger point, I
will gladly pay more now to educate my 5 children than you do for your 2, if,
when it comes to receiving the social security at retirement, because I have
five children paying into the system to your two, I should receive
two-and-a-half times as much as you do.
I have long supported the elimination of the property tax exemption for
religious and non-profit organizations.How much tax money would be
collected if these organizations paid their fair share in property taxes?Do they not benefit from the same police and fire departments? Do they
not benefit from the public education system that educates the people who grow
up, get jobs, and donate to them?How is it we live in a red state
and every time I turn around the GOP is raising taxes? The raised gas and
property taxes in the past 3 years, now they are going to tax food, and they
have also found a way to collect tax for online purchases (Amazon has agreed to
send them money).
We make it too easy for other people to tax and spend our hard-earned money.
Personally, I already feel like my current tax burden is much too high.If
our schools can't operate on what they already get, the taxpayer dollars
already extorted need to be redistributed.
Many people can't afford more tax increases. Wages are not going up as fast
as taxes, housing, and many other things. Or, many people are on fixed incomes
and can't afford additional tax increases. Cut something somewhere else to
fund more teachers, pay them more, and give them smaller classrooms. Cut some of
the tax breaks for the Gail Millers of the state and some of their corporations.
The tax loopholes for them could be closed to help fund the educational needs we
have. Start doing a head tax as well.
Don't they get Federal money. Don't the Feds just print it. Am I
missing something hear. What would raising taxes do, it tells you their in
control. That's all it's for, to tell you who's the Boss.
It's easy to complain about new taxes and perhaps the current proposal
isn't ideal. But, something must be done about Utah's underfunded
schools. Without an increase in teacher pay, we select for a less effective
teacher. If our classrooms are over crowded, we dilute the learning experience
of our children. Instead of complaining about the increase in income tax, come
up with a better way to come up with the money. It's either get enough
money or cheat our children out of a decent education.
Let parents pay their fair share, and contribute some tuition. Quit having
children if you can't afford to raise them.Also, let parents
feed their own children and quit expecting others to do it.Raising
Utah income tax for schools is theft.
#1 we have a representative form of govt., not a direct democracy for a reason (
to prevent emotion based mob rule.) #2 It is immoral to vote to empower
the state to take money from your neighbor, no matter how worthy the cause.
Let's just end the Utah brand of socialism already and place the burden on
those who created the excessive demand, limit tax credits to 2 .
Since the legislature refused to address the teacher shortage issue it's
time for someone to step up and get their attention. They did what they
generally do when faced with a difficult problem, just kick the can down the
The big danger with the referendum process is that well financed groups can go
out and pay signature gatherers to con gullible voters into signing the
petitions. They approach people in malls or at the post office, etc, usually
using a one or two sentence explanation like "Sign here if you want kids to
get a better education." Too many voters today know very little
about what is going on, have only the vaguest notion of what major candidates
are proposing, and are clueless about where the government gets money to give
away "free stuff."The "business leaders" are doing
this because they see a financial benefit for themselves, and do not care a bit
about the taxpayers who will foot the bill.Refuse to sign the
petitions. Vote "NO!" on the "Raise my taxes" initiative.
Lets add a surtax to the sales of all tickets to professional sporting
events.Or maybe raise the sales tax on all new and used cars
purchased through a dealer.Perhaps even remove the sales tax
exemption on newspapers.Those who want to raise taxes always want to
raise it on somebody else.A 17% increase in the State income tax
really hurts the middle class wage earner getting paid on W2 income. It has
very little effect on many of those pushing the oncrwase as their income is from
tax advantaged sourcws like interest, investments, and businesses that get
massive tax breaks.
This is garbage. Big Business Billionaires, that take tens of millions in tax
breaks, wanting every little guy to pony up for our underfunded schools. How
about Gail Miller give up the 20+ million in tax breaks for the Vivint Arena?
How about Larry Miller Dealerships give up their tax rebates from cities for car
sales? Zion's Bank? They want to keep their taxpayer gravy train flowing
into their pockets while overtaxing the average citizen. They have no shame.