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Letter: Our national heritage

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  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    March 17, 2017 9:43 a.m.

    Lollipops and unicorns. Always fascinating to see how naive people can be, and to observe the bubble and the fog of hypocrisy that the natural recourse worshipers live in. I'm guessing darren is using daddy's money, earned from a job that depends on the use and trade of many natural resources, (or uncle sams money - gained from the sale and trade of natural resources) to go to school and to jet off to the nations capital to support his resource worship ideas. I could be wrong, maybe he is hiking all the way to DC, lodging with the indigenous people, and living on the nuts and berries he scavenges along the way. Thereby not using precious resources to get there, or to manufacture and deliver the goods and services he will need along the way. As he goes, he can access all these wilderness areas and ponder the great envy we are of all the world wide indigenous persons who are so jealous of us. Like they really give a crud!

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    March 16, 2017 6:09 p.m.

    Prometheus,

    Thanks for stepping up. The demonstrably false legal arguments you're confronting have been refuted ad nauseum on these pages by people who actually practice and understand the law. Those who insist on perpetuating ignorance as correct principles won't change their minds, but at least we can correct them openly and help others to understand why they're wrong.

    Ultimately everything we have in this country is tied to the food we eat, the water we drink, and the air we breathe. We have a responsibility to conserve our natural resources for us and for future generations. Not everything is meant for short-term exploitation.

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    March 16, 2017 5:35 p.m.

    Mr Richards, Who gave the State ownership? If you want to play that game then show me Utah's legal claim?

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    March 16, 2017 2:51 p.m.

    Mike Richards, your interpretation of the constitution is incorrect again, and repeating it over and over, even though you have been proven incorrect is strange.

    ARTICLE III
    ORDINANCE
    The following ordinance shall be "irrevocable" without the consent of the United States and the
    people of this State:
    Second:--The people inhabiting this State do affirm and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within the boundaries hereof, and to all lands lying within said limits....

    definition of irrevocable: not able to be changed, reversed, or recovered; final.

    That's the Utah State Constitution, which came after the constitution and has been upheld as legal, right? I also did not see anything about "paying Utah" for it's federal lands, did you?

    Article IV, § 3, Clause 2 — the Property Clause — gives Congress authority over federal property generally, and the Supreme Court has described Congress’s power to legislate under this Clause as “without limitation.”

    The Supreme Court has been very clear and consistent on the issue.

    Again, they know the constitution better than angry right wing radio fans.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 16, 2017 11:50 a.m.

    Thank you Darren Bingham. I fear your good deed fell on deaf ears.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 16, 2017 11:31 a.m.

    ugottabkidn,

    Please show us the payment made by the Federal Government with the approval of the Utah STATE Legislature where that legislative body sold 66% of the State of Utah to the Federal Government for forts, magazines or other military purposes. Any other use is illegal under the Constitution.

    When citizens tell us that they are tired of being reminded that the Constitution trumps their personal opinion, they are only telling us that they reject law unless they see a personal advantage in obeying law.

    The Federal Government is forbidden from owning 66% of Utah. You know it. I know it. Anyone who has read the Constitution knows it.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    March 16, 2017 10:08 a.m.

    We are fortunate and I'm glad you are going to DC to speak on behalf of the many, many Utahan's who love our public lands and want to keep them public.

    It's both sad, and reprehensible that some believe that our heritage belongs to the highest bidder and that all know energy resources be exploited as quickly as possible for the benefit of a few corporations.

    The worship of money has become a conservative value according to some of the comments, and only those who posses it are of value. Common property is taking away from those who want private property.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 16, 2017 9:59 a.m.

    @John Charity Spring: I'm really curious to find out where your fixation with Kaiser Wilhelm comes from. He was a monarch and behaved the way that monarchs often do. He was not uniquely depraved, as you often imply. I'm no fan of monarchy and certainly not of Kaiser Wilhelm, I'm just curious why you single him out.

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    March 16, 2017 9:42 a.m.

    Mr Richards, please source for us your insinuation that the Feds "confiscated" land without agreement. The State's only claim is that is within our borders. Your
    disdain for anything national is getting old.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    March 16, 2017 8:14 a.m.

    Oh boy Kaiser Wilhelm is back!

    Care to tell us where the founders.." established this Country on the principle that the natural resources must be used for the benefit of the people."

    While you're at it tells how a lands natural beauty and majesty does not benefit the people.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 16, 2017 8:07 a.m.

    Could anyone twist the Constituiton more? Every American does not "own" two acres of "public land". To own something is to have paid for it by purchasing it from its legal owner. The Federal Government "owns" no public lands. Public lands do no exist under the Constitution. Article I, Section 8 limits the Federal Government's "ownership" of land to a tract ten-miles square. All other land "owned" by the Federal Government must be purchased from the States which "own" that land. All other land purchased by the Federal Government must have military needs (forts, magazines) or be the sites of Federal Buildings.

    Misunderstanding the Constitution and the limits that the people put on the Federal Government is no excuse. We are a literate nation, but too many pretend that because they don't want to see something that is printed clearly in the Constitution, that that item does not exist.

    We cannot maintain correct principles by pretending that those correct principles don't exist.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    March 16, 2017 7:33 a.m.

    Our Great Nation truly has a Great Heritage. But it is not what this letter infers.

    The Founding Fathers established this Country on the principle that the natural resources must be used for the benefit of the people. Sadly, the left-wing environmental extremists would lock up every vacant field and stream from the use of man.

    One of the great evils of the last century was the effort of Kaiser Wilhelm II to dictate the use of the land, to the exclusion of the will of the people. We cannot allow that nonsense here.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 16, 2017 7:27 a.m.

    Utah is indeed fortunate. Sadly, local politicians and lobbyists want Utah to look like parts of the East, where lands are forever destroyed and "No Trespassing" signs are ubiquitous. Some here don't realize how blessed they are.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 16, 2017 6:28 a.m.

    Good for you Darren. However:
    "By respecting our shared history and birthright, Americans are ensuring a future that we all can be proud of."

    Our local GOP politicians keep trying to sell our birthright to their extraction industry donors. Vote differently.