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Black Diamond co-founder calls on outdoor trade show to leave Utah over public lands stance

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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 13, 2017 12:46 p.m.

    These snowflakes have been threatening to leave for years now.
    Just leave already!
    Good Riddance!

  • DGA28 Monticello, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 8:30 p.m.

    Happy to wave good-bye to Black Diamond and the likes. They all claim ranchers and mineral extractors are living on the "public lands dole" because they don't pay fair market for their use. Yet ranchers and mineral extractors pay to use the land and they pay taxes. What does the outdoor recreation pay? Nothing. All those people use the public land for free. Interestingly that they claim their entire industry livelihood is dependent on public lands but couldn't care less about anybody elses livelihood. Very selfish people.

  • Bale Sandy, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 12:26 p.m.

    I know this is the D-News, but you guys should wake up and realize that the vast majority of Utahns are for the Bears Ears. People like "conservative scientist" seem to enjoy recreating in places like Zion, but are oblivious to the fact that Zion wouldn't exist if it were up to our current "leaders". The BD boycotts are humorous, you don't account for .0001% of their world wide sales. Go buy your gear at Wally World, it's not like you go outside much anyway.

  • el steve o Herriman, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 1:03 p.m.

    Let the states manage their own resources. Won't even think of buying black diamond products again.

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:57 p.m.

    CMO Beaver said "lib crybaby... I will take my toys and go home"

    But its not even that--he seeks to hurt many and the state by attempting to get the outdoor trade show to leave Utah.

    Some California LGBT guy trying to hurt LDS with his commercials that arecoming to Utah.

    And now this guy, trying to hurt the the outdoor/ Utah economy in general with this nonsense. He's biting the very hand that feeds him.

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 12:16 p.m.

    lib crybaby... I will take my toys and go home

  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:33 a.m.

    I would personally love nothing better than if a bunch of liberals quit visiting Utah's national wonders altogether. I know tourism is important to those local communities but it is so difficult to find a parking spot any any trail-heads inside our national parks, national monuments, or even state parks or to reserve a campground anymore. Being able to actually sit down on the Zion shuttle system instead of having to stand would be welcome.

    After reading recent Deseret News articles about the severe problems that people congestion is causing in both Springdale and in Moab, I think even those in the tourism industry may be happy with a 20 or 30% decrease in visitors. All those mad at Utah leaders over opposition to Bears Ears please go elsewhere for your recreation and those of us in Utah will continue to enjoy the amazing opportunities and scenery we have here in Utah.

  • booshway Woods Cross, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:14 a.m.

    The problem with people like Metcalf is they have a VERY narrow and limited view of "public" lands. Instead letting everyone use the land they want to lock it up, steal it from the state (unconstitutional taking) and deny that there is any other use for the land. Bears Ears is unconstitutional because I can't go on the land and take wood and plants etc. but the Indians can, that's not equal treatment under the law - unconstitutional. The Antiquities Act is unconstitutional in that the Fed gov't is not granted control or ownership of sovereign state land and the Congress can't give power to the President that do not have themselves.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:49 a.m.

    Every time a wilderness issue raises it's head, someone from the ODR threaten to pull out of the state.

    Think about it, if there was a better economic model for them do you think that they would not move. Economically they are stuck here in the state.

    Black Diamond came here for the market, and the better work force. If he could do it else where he would be gone in a New York minute.

    Did you ever notice the retailers come to Utah when air quality is at its worse, both winter and summer. Why do we want their pollution brought to our valley.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Jan. 11, 2017 8:32 a.m.

    I just started a buycott of Black Diamond.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:45 p.m.

    Bishops bill would have helped maybe 3-4% of Utah. He wanted a back door for the 1% to acquire and lock up the land.

    Most polls I have seen show the support at 50% among Utahns. Utah loses the outdoor show, and it's outdoor activities, and we will lose more than the royalties from the oil and gas industry.

    Many of our leaders think recreation activities stop at the city rec center and park. We don't all have a family home and our own canyon up Provo canyon.

  • Canyonlover Blanding, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:39 p.m.

    I live here in Blanding and i am very glad to see so many that are willing to speak out against Black Diamond for there short sightedness. Thanks for helping everyone understand what we are up against. I am glad that our community, county, state and federal representatives have listened to the people of Utah. Utah has some of the best people in the owrld living here and we can make our own products and clothing and dont need big companies like Black Diamond pushing us around and bullying us.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:13 p.m.

    After years and years of hearings, Bishop couldn't get his PLI through even a Republican Congress.

    Orchids to you, Mr. President for taking the initiative and protecting that sublime landscape.

    And orchids to you too, Mr. Metcalf, but the semi-educated realtors who run this state will never listen, because all they see when they look at a piece of land is dollar signs. Onions to them.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:45 p.m.

    liberalism=intolerance

    We are seeing this intolerance from folks on the left in every aspect of our lives. Maybe you oughta look in the mirror and give your head a shake. Meanwhile the national day of the intolerant minority looks to be on Jan 20th. Give them all a teddie bear and a comfort blankie. The rest of us gotta show up for work.

  • Mack2828 Ft Thomas, KY
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:10 p.m.

    Heck, I'm not even from Utah, but still...no more black diamond for me or my family.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:06 p.m.

    Good for him, his business counts on outdoor activities and camping. Any attempt by the state to restrict land use and fishing is an attack on his livelihood.

    Closing land for business hurts other business, it's as simple as that. Do we want Utah's treasures and outdoor life auctioned off to the highest bidder?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:58 p.m.

    Every time "big recreation" comes to Salt Lake one or more of their big shots insists on making some sort of demands with threats of leaving if their demands are not met.

    I am not sure if that qualifies as extortion or blackmail, or just spoiled kids throwing a temper tantrum.

    If they want to leave, they are free to go. But, if they go to the wilderness paradise they demand of us, they will find that the public cannot go there. If they want bigger facilities, they will not be minutes from mountains or ski slopes. If they want more hotels, ditto.

    Life is full of compromises, and if you cannot compromise then we won't miss you and your perpetual demands and tantrums.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:10 p.m.

    That's rich. An east coast lib encourages economic punishment to Utah because he knows better than the majority of Utahns, who don't agree with his wisdom.

    Blacklist Black Diamond folks. Give em a taste of their own medicine.

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:53 p.m.

    Yeah, and rock climbers thought the church shouldn't be allowed to quarry rock from land it owned for the Conference Center. We all know how that turned out.

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:39 p.m.

    Is Mr Metcalf aware of the State's efforts to protect the same land in the Bear's Ear Minument? Obama's designation included less land than Bishop proposed. As Herbert said, it wasn't the designation that was offensive, but the process.

    Metcalf's ignorance undermines his credibility.

  • Blue Collar Huntington, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:32 p.m.

    See you later! Don't really care if the door hits you on the way out either.

  • windsor City, Ut
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:30 p.m.

    Well, was going to buy Black Diamond trekking poles for the AT Trail, next year just to support a local Utah company--even though they have terrible customer support compared to Leki.

    Guess this dude with his bash to Utah just made my decision easier.

    Leki, here I come.

  • boyd Ricks sandy/salt lake, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:15 p.m.

    I keep hearing that the majority of Utah people are against the National Monument. Well, I'm for it. I disa

  • makka Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:12 p.m.

    Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:43 p.m.

    Who put this guy in charge of public lands policy? Why is he getting all he media coverage? I hope this all blows over quickly, just like "hey, the election is over now so let's get on with life." It's pretty easy to be against something---anything---these days, isn't it?

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:41 p.m.

    p.s. I'm an outdoor enthusiast. No more Black Diamond for me.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:40 p.m.

    So Peter wants to use Utah's unique outdoors to make profits for his company, but doesn't want to give back to the State that feeds him because of a political vendetta? The decision has been made. Move on.

  • Goahead76 Tooele, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:36 p.m.

    Good riddance Black Diamond, never heard of you, won't miss you.

  • verlo Logan, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:20 p.m.

    Good riddance!

  • WJ_Coach West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:15 p.m.

    The Bears Ears area has been raped and pillaged over the years by individuals that don't respect the beauty and history of the land. There are many that are looking short sided at lost revenue from possible energy and oil development instead of looking long term with the millions of dollars that will be earned by visitors to that region from all over the world.

    I have not spoken to ONE person that lives in our state that doesn't want these lands protected! Stop to politicization of OUR public lands. We need preserve the history and the beauty without allowing the development and destruction of the area.

    The Antiquities Act is how the state of Utah received the designation and protection of our 5 national parks! There is way too much special interest involved by our state officials in the energy industry for any of them to be making an impartial and educated opinion on what's best for the people of Utah, America, and the entire world to enjoy this special area of the planet.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:05 p.m.

    @wyomex;
    "That's all the governor is saying, Pete. Bear Ears was a last-minute sneaky political move without the candor we love in the west."

    Last minute? Utah was given 3 years to come up with an alternative plan. Sally Jewel came here to hash out a compromise. Rob Bishop's PLI was laden with gifts to developers & extraction industry "donors". Do some research. Utah politicians got what they deserved. They're lucky President Obama didn't name another National Monument.

  • BB Santaquin, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:56 p.m.

    Won't be purchasing from Black Diamond anymore!!!

  • South of the border Sparks, NV
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:25 p.m.

    Black Diamond was never that great anyway. I won't miss buying their products. No, I am not trying to make a political statement and neither should he.

  • Tuffy Parker Salem, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:20 p.m.

    Completely agree with Vermonter - Here's another prime example of the liberal mentality that if one does not agree 100% with their positions, then the only recourse is ostracism and boycotts. When it comes to public land debates, I have yet to see a situation where SUWA, Metcalf and their ilk work to seek collaborative solutions with others with different viewpoints but rather insist on forcing their will upon all.

    In regard to Metcalf's prediction of an economic boon to the region 20 years hence, history has shown otherwise. Similar prognostication was voiced with the Escalante Grand Staircase Monument 20 years ago. By most accounts, the promise of economic prosperity has proven to be empty.

    What Metcalf and similarly positioned others really seek are private play grounds that keeps everyone else out except the worthy elite.

    With proper involvement and oversight, including locals, there is much opportunity to find solutions to meet myriad uses of public land.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:15 p.m.

    "said the lucrative trade gathering should leave the state because of top leaders' political opposition to the Bears Ears National Monument."

    No worries, not that I agree with Utah's political leaders, but Black Diamond can be boycotted much easier than the state of Utah!

    Does he really think this will send any type of message but I'm going to hurt the many because I disagree with the few? How about he put his profits to work opposing those he disagrees with? I'm not feeling the high road here, more like he has an agenda and took this opportunity to push it.

    I would support Utah's political leaders passing a bill to ban Black Diamond equipment in the state of Utah. Of course, easy for me since I only visit and don't vote there.

  • Wyomex Burlington, WY
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:08 p.m.

    Peter Metcalf is from New York City.

    Folks, most people from the coasts just see things differently than native westerners. Give him some slack. Those New Yorkers are blustery talkers.

    So Pete disagrees with a lot of smart people who have lived here all their lives and who have dealt with land issues on an intimate basis. Does he know more than they?

    So Pete agrees with the heavy hand of back-room, eleventh hour politics - little to no public discussion, debate or hearing the sensitivities of locals. Maybe that's how they do it in New York or New Jersey, but here in the west we like transparency, openness and discussion.

    That's all the governor is saying, Pete. Bear Ears was a last-minute sneaky political move without the candor we love in the west.

  • Enough is enough! Saint George, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 5:07 p.m.

    This amounts to blackmail and an adult tantrum—all rolled into one!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:57 p.m.

    Does he know most utah residents oppose bears ears.
    If they pull out, they will lose my business.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:46 p.m.

    @golong You mean like when Lyman Family Farms bought some Utah Trust Land next to Bears Ears and cut off access to it? No one will be denied access to National Monuments, or National Parks, or BLM land. Unless they are sold to the wealthy.

  • Commenter88 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:41 p.m.

    Does Peter Metcalfe have children in Utah schools who will miss out on the lost revenues and alternative benefits from the seized school trust lands? Is he even a Utah parent?

    What does this executive have against people wanting to do small, personal geological rock collection, open camping, small campfires, or limited-use ATV permits for disabled veterans (all activities now outlawed in wholesale fashioned on this land) that he cannot abide Utah state leaders wanting to represent their citizen's use of the land? Why is he against the broad effort of inclusion that the state leaders wanted instead of the unilateral, executive action to seize land-use from Utahns?

    How does this executive justify the reasoning that all such meaningful use of the land should be shut down except for those uses that coincide with his marketing images and expensive outdoor and fashion products for the trendy consumer?

  • Summit Park City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:40 p.m.

    The Federal Government is not listening to what the people of Utah want. They have moved ahead with public land initiatives at the expense of the people who live here and do the most to help maintain these lands.

    It is a shame that the co-founder of Black Diamond is making such a call after Utah has supported him and his founded company to status, wealth and fame. One would think that Utah's interests would play a larger role. But, perhaps even though Black Diamond is head quartered in Salt Lake, its holdings in China, Europe, and elsewhere may hold more importance than Utah. While Black Diamond claims to support several non-profit (tax loophole?) organizations, how much of those dollars actually make it directly into the Utah infrastructure?

    Please be more supportive of Utah. Utah loves the lands, maintains the lands where allowed, and wants these lands to benefit all people for generations to come. "Black mail" type threats are not the way to obtain a great future for the people.

  • Procoug Layton, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:22 p.m.

    I don't think I will be buying any more black diamond gear.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:21 p.m.

    Can't help but think about the intolerance for different ideas. Metcalf and others see one way to manage public lands. If you merely disagree with Metcalf, environmental groups like the Sierra Club, and President Obama, they want nothing to do with you and want to exclude you entirely from the decision-making process. That attitude is ripping our nation apart.

  • golong Washington, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:08 p.m.

    ...and why is it so "critical" to "protect" more and more of Utah's land? Single issue organizations like environmental groups are unable to defend the argument why some huge swath of Utah (or any other state) land must be cordoned off and made available only to the wealthy and the elite leftists who drive these campaigns. Somehow, over the past 125 years, all this land has been protected, is in great condition, and everybody has access to it. Why must it be isolated? Nobody knows, nobody can say why, only that environmentalists under their environmental religion make that issue an act of passage into their group. Please, leave us and our state alone, we're doing just fine without you.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 3:50 p.m.

    Herbert and his GOP cohorts in the Legislature say one thing and do another. Actions speak louder than words and their actions are going to cost the state the OR convention and industry jobs. Colorado will be happy to benefit from their shortsightedness.