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The Obama presidency: ‘War on religion’ or ‘Amazing Grace’?

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  • elarue53078 Chandler, AZ
    Jan. 12, 2017 11:32 a.m.

    "Here is a RED LETTER line for liberals. You lost!! Your Socialist king was rejected and that my friends is why Hillary lost. She had nothing to run on or run with."

    As a true liberal, let me clue you in - Hillary is not one of us. That's why we were so filled with hatred and rage at the Democratic party when they nominated her. You're right that she had nothing to run on or run with, which is why liberals across the board refused to support her.

  • elarue53078 Chandler, AZ
    Jan. 12, 2017 11:30 a.m.

    Unfortunately, to many conservatives, so much as putting a 'D' next to your name instead of an 'R' is tantamount to "attacking Christianity." If a member of the clergy were to run as a Democrat, a Green, or anything other than a Republican, (s)he would be "attacking Christianity." And it's pretty sad for those of us who want true freedom of religion that that line of reasoning has gained so much traction in this country.

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:23 a.m.

    @ UGC

    'How will President Trump react in a similar moment in front of grieving mass shooting families?'

    I hope that he does not. Why is it a Presidential responsibility to be Grief Counselor in Chief? Bad things happen.
    The President does not need to get involved in every tragedy, let the families grieve without the bully pulpit blaring condemnation and hypocrisy.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:28 a.m.

    EscherEnigma

    Exactly right. Christians cry "war on Christianity" when they lose control over what other people can do.

    I have yet to hear a valid argument as to how allowing SSM affects anyone's heterosexual marriage. You may disagree with it, but it doesn't affect you otherwise.

  • EscherEnigma Ridgecrest, CA
    Jan. 10, 2017 9:01 a.m.

    Lawrence v. Texas repeals sodomy laws nationwide. War on Christianity!
    DADT repeal means gay soldiers don't have to be closeted. War on Christianity!
    Windsor v. United States means the federal government will recognize the same-sex marriages recognized by states. War on Christianity!
    Obergefel v. Hodges means that gay people can be married in any state. War on Christianity!

    Anyone else notice a pattern here? Very few of these "war on Christianity" battles have actually been about Christians or Christianity. It's only a "war on Christianity" because some Christians aren't happy that the government is no longer enforcing their views.

    That's why I have never been able to take the "War on Christianity" seriously. Because Christians have cried wolf so many times.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:12 a.m.

    @patriot " Here is a RED LETTER line for liberals. You lost!! Your Socialist king was rejected and that my friends is why Hillary lost. She had nothing to run on or run with. This little man had destroyed all trust in the Democrat party over 8 years and that is also why the Dem's lost the last two mid-terms in 2010 and 2014 as well as countless state races for governor and legislature. "

    I could respond, but how does one respond to another who's foaming at the mouth?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Jan. 10, 2017 6:24 a.m.

    I sure hope you all keep the same standard in the next 4 years. I have a strong feeling that if you dont let partisanship rule the day, you are going to be really really upset.

    Considering that so many can so easily side with Assange over US intelligence agencies, and Putin over Obama, I am betting on partisanship.

  • vern001 Castle Rock, CO
    Jan. 10, 2017 3:39 a.m.

    Obama was a class act in every way. He did not boast of his faith or try to come across as more pious or religious to look better politically. He is a humble man who did his best and was sincere and kind. He knew his scriptures and his hymns. Sadly, the same cannot be said for his successor.

  • Deanvrtc Vancouver, WA
    Jan. 9, 2017 7:36 p.m.

    How anyone could imagine that Obama was a friend to Christianity world wide is stunning. Obama turned his back from Christians being persecuted, murdered, raped,and every other sickening inhuman atrocity. Mostly all perpetrated by Islam radical elements, to whom Obama bowed so he would not offend them. Barack Obama will always be remembered as a weak president who let the world bullies walk over him and Christians everywhere....

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 6:27 p.m.

    President Obama did as well as anyone could in navigating the mine field that separates religion and the larger society. We're going to miss his thoughtful, passionate and well presented reasoning in the future.
    The 'amazing grace' moment was one of pure humanity. A credit to the man and the office. He not only has comedic talent I admire, but some singing chops as well.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 4:42 p.m.

    Obama's "Amazing Grace" helped seal his legacy as a man with class and soul. It had to be one of the greatest impromptu presidential moments of all time.

    How will President Trump react in a similar moment in front of grieving mass shooting families?

    "I knew this was going to happen!" seems like a good bet.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 4:38 p.m.

    Ask Evangelicals and Mormons. Ask Catholic "Little Sisters Of The Poor". Unless you have spent the past 8 years on Mars you know another one of "Obama' Wars" was certainly the war against Christianity. Throw Israel into that bucket as well. But enough already about Obama -- he is history literally and thankfully! Don't care anymore. Here is a RED LETTER line for liberals. You lost!! Your Socialist king was rejected and that my friends is why Hillary lost. She had nothing to run on or run with. This little man had destroyed all trust in the Democrat party over 8 years and that is also why the Dem's lost the last two mid-terms in 2010 and 2014 as well as countless state races for governor and legislature. Anywhere where Obama's record was on the ballot the Dem's got smoked!!! A letter grade for Barack is a solid F!