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  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 10:57 a.m.

    @Truth-

    Re: "Putin has already been running the USA for the last 8 years"!

    Emotionally based fake news anyone? How so? Aware my request is Kryptonite for the extremist, obstructionist faction. However. Specifics and facts please!

    "Obama is a weakling and for once , we now have a leader who is tough and is not a globalist liar!

    How exactly is Obama a "weakling"? Besides the Breitbart and National Enquirer talking points. The global community as well as the majority of Americans highly disagree. 67% approval rating! Specifics anyone?

  • Rumoris Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:30 p.m.

    Esquire

    My narrative has evidence, which makes it more reflective of reality. Hence it trumps your narrative.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 2:54 p.m.

    @ Multi, that's quite a narrative and a load of rationalizations.

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 2:12 p.m.

    @Multi excuses

    Re: "What multi billion dollar business owner, hasn't had a business fail"?

    For those of us actually aware of Trump the facts state otherwise!

    "Lost contracts, bankruptcies, defaults, deceptions and indifference to investors—Trump’s business career is a long, long list of such troubles, according to regulatory, corporate and court records, as well as sworn testimony and government investigative reports. Call it the art of the bad deal, one created by the arrogance and recklessness of a businessman whose main talent is self-promotion". {Newsweek}

    "2007 deposition, Trump said he based estimates of his net worth at times on “psychology” and “my own feelings.” But those feelings are often wrong—in 2004, he presented unaudited financials to Deutsche Bank while seeking a loan, claiming he was worth $3.5 billion. The bank concluded Trump was, to say the least, puffing; it put his net worth at $788 million, records show. (Trump personally guaranteed $40 million of the loan to his company, so Deutsche coughed up the money. He later defaulted on that commitment.)" {Newsweek/NY Times/Huff Post}

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 1:52 p.m.

    Earth2Trump Resistance Roadshow theme and tenets are identical to George Soros...coincidence?

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:59 p.m.

    @Tumbleweed - Jan. 9, 2017 9:04 a.m.

    We Conservative Christians should respond by praying for our new President and his advisors. While at it, thank God for our inspired Constitution and those who defend it and for our Founding Fathers who wrote it with promptings from the Almighty. Pray that God will continue to bless and preserve this great nation, forgive us of our sins and inspire our leaders to strive to do the Lord's will.
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    My husband and I are (small "c") conservative Christians who pray daily for our President and also for the soon-to-be titular head of our country's government and all of their advisors. We thank God for our inspired Constitution and those who defend it and for our Founding Fathers who wrote a marvelous document that survives the ages. Pray that God will continue to bless and preserve this great nation, forgive us of our sins and inspire our leaders to strive to do the Lord's will. AND we pray that the soon-to-be titular head of the government will not destroy our country before he can be contained since he and his puppet master (Putin) are HUGE disasters that we now face. May God be with us all.

  • fight4liberty Herriman, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:45 p.m.

    Love, who specializes in climate and energy issues, is particularly disturbed about statements Trump has made regarding the environment.

    There are a lot of scientists, biologists, environmentalist and educators, concerned about the environment read about it on geoengineeringwatch.org.

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:00 p.m.

    Tumbleweed at 9:04 summed perfectly what we all ought to be doing.

    I was very unhappy to have Mr. Obama become President saying he wanted to fundamentally change this Nation. I believe in the Constitution in the spirit of the founders but still prayed for the leader of our country. I have not been pleased with the pathway to socialism but I have prayed for our President to do the right thing. I will continue to pray likewise and wil do it on January 21 and afterward.

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:45 a.m.

    As one who has not been a fan of Mr. Trump I too am getting tired of all the little temper tantrums. Yes, you have freedom of speech and may protest as you feel but "laying on the floor kicking and screaming" is doing no good but rather makes you look like the spoiled, tantrum throwing 2 yr old.

    Do some good in the world. Become a Cub Scout leader, help with a school reading program, go volunteer at a soup kitchen.

  • Rocket Science Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:18 a.m.

    I wonder what kinda fossil fuel Ms. Love is using crossing back and forth across the country to protest Mr. Trumps attitude on energy?

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:11 a.m.

    This is all fine and good, if your so inclined to share this view, and you can be peaceful about it, but can anybody tell me of any effort that would be a more colossal waste of time? Quit crying and get over it.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:10 a.m.

    I am tired of these groups with nothing constructive to do except pander to the media. Turn the fire hoses loose on them and they can experience globe cooling.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:04 a.m.

    The Russian Hackers could take over Whitehouse communications. They can run everything by Putin of substance. Trump can continue to troll the media that does not love him, Arnold and any one that does not say he is the greatest man on earth on television shows.

  • Multi Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:03 a.m.

    Esquire

    Here is what you don't understand about the Russian sanctions. It was bankrupting their country, why would they allow that to continue? Why would they allow a crazy lady to dictate to them, when and where they could help their allies?

    Why would they not absorb the pro Russian Crimea, who wanted to defect from Ukraine? If nations want to shuffle boundaries let them.

    Not that we actually have anything to fear from Russia, seeing as our naval might currently outweighs both Russia's, and China's combined by double the tonnage, and as you can see our economic might can bring their country to its knees quite quickly if need be.

    I don't see why we should be abusing them with it.

  • Multi Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 10:58 a.m.

    Esquire

    Hillary's single sin is greater than all of Trump's.

    That little private server with thousands of top secret documents in it, which we know she had because we have evidence of her deleting thousands of emails, is treason.

    Now when you couple the server with her charity, which is loaded with foreign money, kinda seems like it is a pay to play scheme for other countries to have influence in America's politics.

    That single mistake is worse than all of Trump's failings. What multi billion dollar business owner, hasn't had a business fail?

    By the way, Russia didn't hack the U.S. we can clearly see how flimsy that narrative is, when that narrative is then used to explain why Britain left the EU, and why the migrants are creating a rape crisis in Germany, and Europe. The evidence is incredibly nebulous, and none of it can be fact checked. Russia didn't hack the U.S. Julian Assange who posted the content on Wikipedia has stated his contact isn't Russian, and so far he has been more truthful than the entire media complex in America.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 10:49 a.m.

    One vote

    Yes mean tweets are the core concepts we want addressed. How dare he attack the media that has been attacking him, and making up outright lies.

    Remember when Trump won, and then had a meeting with a bunch of high ranking news outlets, and he let them have the what for?

    You know what is funny, those media moguls thought they were going to be discussing special access to Trump's White House. Just look at the entitlement these people think they deserve, they denigrate a person for an entire year, make up lies, and straw man his every position, and then expect to be treated fairly in return?

    Nope, big media has become as bad for our nation as big banks. In the words of Bernie,"break them up."

    I propose that these media giants be shut out of the White House, and Trump bring in, and use alternative means of media. The internet is a very powerful forum for learning, and diversity.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 10:38 a.m.

    @ Creeper51, here is my final follow-up to your comments.

    Russia. We had a cordial relationship with Russia until Putin came back into office and started his imperialism. Georgia. Ukraine/Crimea. Now threatening the Baltic States. How did the West respond? Sanctions. Putin doesn't like that, so he pushes back. Only you and Trump think Russia is innocent. You give Russia the benefit of the doubt? Try listening to McCain and Graham on the subject. They have it right. You don't even have to pay attention to what the Dems are saying. Trump's vigorous, long-standing defense of Russia and Putin are also astonishing. The fact that Republicans care more for Russia than for our own Western institutions is short-sighted and undermine our nation and values. And you are on full board with that. I'm OK with a good relationship with Russia, but only if Russia behaves itself, and Russia has NOT behaved itself. And you are just fine with that. May I ask to what do you swear your allegiance? It certainly is not with the American nation in which I was raised. To Russia? To one person, Trump? To another system of government? Do tell.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 10:29 a.m.

    @ Creeper51, all I can say is "wow". No, I'll say a little more.

    Hillary was not accused of "...adultery, cheating employees and contractors, filing bankruptcy, not paying taxes, multiple business failures, promoting vulgarity and violence, supporting Russia more than American institutions." Lying, yes, but then researchers concluded she couldn't hold a candle to Trump.

    You think Trump is going to do what "we" want him to do? What is that, exactly? So far, I see the elimination of a health insurance program with no replacement, the elimination of Medicaire and Social Security, a cabinet made up of people who have NO clue about the travails of the middle class, even bigger budgets and deficits, and just the opposite of draining the swamp. It really is incredible at the 180 degree turnaround from his campaign rhetoric. Astonishing is what it is.

    So, does Utah support his values and history? That question stands on its own. If you didn't want Hillary, you had other choices. McMullin seemed like a man of integrity who represented Utah value. But he was rejected in favor of Trump in Utah. Well?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 10:00 a.m.

    Someone asked, "Has anyone noticed there are very few DN stories on what Trump is actually doing and saying?"

    Could that be because the Deseret News doesn't want to be singled out and accused of being part of the "lying media?"

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Jan. 9, 2017 9:46 a.m.

    I think groups like this should be worried.

    Trump, himself, is not really a solid conservative, and only a relatively recent convert to conservatism. But, since traditional liberals and Washington elites want nothing to do with him (see Tulsi Gabbard, Heidi Heitkamp, etc.), Trump has had to turn to genuine conservatives and tea party types to fill his cabinet and administration.

    Mike Pence as VP is a literal dream-come-true for tea party conservatives.

    The nightmare for liberals and Democrats may get a lot worse in about a year when Trump takes on the Chairman of the Board type role, and turns over day-to-day operations in Washington to Vice President Pence and his cabinet.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 9:25 a.m.

    The President elect is on another critic and news media twitter rant attack today, they could be next. Soon even his supporters that let him do anything, will start to revolt against the instability he demonstrates with petty mean tweets.

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 9:04 a.m.

    We Conservative Christians should respond by praying for our new President and his advisors. While at it, thank God for our inspired Constitution and those who defend it and for our Founding Fathers who wrote it with promptings from the Almighty. Pray that God will continue to bless and preserve this great nation, forgive us of our sins and inspire our leaders to strive to do the Lord's will.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:59 a.m.

    @Joan Watson - Jan. 8, 2017 11:30 p.m.

    One need be more affronted and indignant of these kind of well organized, we'll funded disruptive groups , than one need be of a Trump Presidency. It is not only a protest against an American elected president, but also against all those Americans who voted for him and elected him. One wonders who is the master planner and whose money is supporting and encouraging all this dissension?

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    I'm a small "c" conservative, a Republican and a Christian (LDS). I am grateful both for the independent people and the well-organized and well-funded groups that are working tp minimize the devastation and damage that the soon-to-be titular head of our country's government will be raining down on our country and the world.

    As for me and my husband - if Donnie ever does anything to support the country, the rights of women/minorities, etc., I will applaud him. I don't see that happening much. To date I have seen nothing to indicate that he would support or benefit anybody but himself.

    Donnie and his puppet master (Putin) need to be contained. I will work to keep that containment in place.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:58 a.m.

    Oh, and here is to a new age of co-operation with Russia. If we can't rely on the mainstream media to be the investigative journalists they are supposed to be, then Russia is OK in my book for doing their job for them. Besides that, there still isn't any proof that they did what they have been accused of.

    But all the same let's have a cordial relationship with them.

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:57 a.m.

    Esquire

    Was Hillary also not every one of those things as well? For heaven's sakes, they were nearly bankrupted after Bill left the White House, or you'd think that if you believed her lies.

    So tell me, in the race of two candidates as terrible as you paint them. Which were we supposed to choose? The democrats couldn't muster up a candidate, or refused to muster one up, (Debbie Schultz/Podesta emails.) That could beat Trump.

    Why would we vote for her, if she wasn't going to do what we wanted her to do?

    What a lot of entrenched Democrats fail to understand, is that Donald Trump is not an established candidate, he is a grass roots/populist candidate. Which means he was listening to normal people, and got the Republican Party ticket due to the people wanting him, not the elitists Republicans. Hillary is the opposite, she was out to help her elitist buddies.

    Now I hope Trump does well, I hope he brings economic growth back to the U.S. I hope he expels en mass illegal immigrants of all colors, so as to stop the supression of wages.

    Stop Middle Eastern immigration for a time, and focus on the problems at home. This is what I hope.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:49 a.m.

    Has anyone noticed there are very few DN stories on what Trump is actually doing and saying?

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:40 a.m.

    Oh my, "hundreds" attended? Nothing like a Trump rally. Just bring the President-elect to town and he can show us what a real gathering looks like.😁

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:32 a.m.

    Utah has cast its lot with man well known for lying, adultery, cheating employees and contractors, filing bankruptcy, not paying taxes, multiple business failures, promoting vulgarity and violence, supporting Russia more than American institutions, and the list goes on. The question is, does Utah support these values and behavior? As a result, I'm sure this group opposing Trump won't get much traction here.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:17 a.m.

    More and more folks who are so willing to place roadblocks in the path of PEOTUS who is already working very hard to make America great again. Most fortunately however YOUR numbers are tiny compared to the millions who are fully in his camp willing to support what WE like about his vision for America.
    My advice: don't give up your day job working for George Soros and his ilk.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:14 a.m.

    For years, I have watched the middle class gutted by bad trade deals, watched the sexual revolution steamroll over anyone that disagreed, and seen illegal immigrants treated as super-citizens. It's why I proudly voted for Trump! The anti-Trumpers can keep complaining, but Trump won and they lost. Go Trump!

  • Creeper51 Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:05 a.m.

    I want a liberal to tell me what Trump's dangerous rhetoric/ agenda is.

    I mean other than the Islam question, I don't think he has advocated for anything dangerous for anybody.

  • ConservativeUtahisBest Murray, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 7:37 a.m.

    Groups like this make me laugh. Hope they enjoyed our wamer than usual global warming... oops I meant `climate change` winter that we have. We have gotten hardly any snow.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 7:37 a.m.

    Are the "small c" conservatives the ones who ask approval from the liberals before they make a move? Kind of like John McCain or Lindsey Graham?

    WHO KNEW - that the nevertrumpers would turn their election loss into a full-time endeavor?

    With travel benefits no less!

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Jan. 9, 2017 5:37 a.m.

    @ The Meliorist

    "Small 'c' conservatives like me want nothing to do with 'T'rumpism."

    I'm seeing signs of this, too, among my conservative friends, co-workers, and acquaintances. Also among the more centrist liberals. Reasonable people are finding each other and discovering again just how much there is to agree on.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Jan. 8, 2017 11:30 p.m.

    One need be more affronted and indignant of these kind of well organized, we'll funded disruptive groups , than one need be of a Trump Presidency. It is not only a protest against an American elected president, but also against all those Americans who voted for him and elected him. One wonders who is the master planner and whose money is supporting and encouraging all this dissension?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2017 10:11 p.m.

    I think it's great that they're here, but they'll have limited success here with an environmental or climate change agenda alone. They need to expand their concern to include the (many) other areas of trumps' ideas and proposed policies that are not only dangerous, but foolish, silly, mean spirited, immoral, illegal and even stupid.
    There is a lot more of a broad appeal that trump offers for them to address.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 8, 2017 9:18 p.m.

    @DougSegesman

    Yeah, because who needs an environment anyway?

  • The Meliorist Grande Cache, 00
    Jan. 8, 2017 9:13 p.m.

    Donald is doing more to motivate these activist groups than any President before.

    When you push the pendulum hard it tends to swing back just as hard. This is exactly why true conservatives opposed Donald. And exactly why he will lose the next election. We could have had 2 terms of Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, except Trump's bully tactics and Russian interference helped elect the most immoral candidate in modern time.

    Small 'c' conservatives like me want nothing to do with 'T'rumpism.

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    Jan. 8, 2017 8:31 p.m.

    They are kicking against the pricks (to use the Biblical term). The vote was in November.

  • DougSegesman Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 8, 2017 7:49 p.m.

    I'd like to thank this group. You are a reminder of why I voted for Trump Keep up your futile quest.