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  • Kimber Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 12, 2017 12:29 p.m.

    I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw there was anything negative to say about President Obama's speech. It was tender and well written and delivered and brought tears to me and my families eyes. I can only think that there have been so many negative things said about him in the Republican areas, that nothing he could ever say or do could change their thinking. Some people will not even take a fair look at events and even great speeches because of their affiliations. It is really sad. And as far as the upcoming president, we had political figures in Utah that did not support him in any shape or form and then when he won they changed their tune. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 11:03 p.m.

    JoeCapitalist2 - Orem, UT, the jury is back on the Bush regime before Obama and it isn't very good. Deaths of hundreds of thousands in wars we should not have fought. Dow Jones at 8,000 and 401-k plans losing 57 plus percent. The economy in shambles and unemployment at an all time high. No healthcare for millions.

    Yup, the jury already judged the Bush years and they were not pretty. Seems the right forgets the mess that our amazing President inherited and turned around in almost every category. I'm sure you're happy that your 401-k is doing three times better? Or was that not a good thing?

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 10:44 p.m.

    say good-bye to the stomach flu. As Reagan once stated "It's morning in America again" after Jan 20th!!!

  • Ajax Mapleton, UT
    Jan. 11, 2017 8:53 a.m.

    Haven’t we suffered enough political blathering from the usual culprits? Political extremism mixed with religion as an instigator of divisiveness and conflict is a curse on Utah and the nation. If that is the “Utah way”, it is a sham...we have nothing to offer. Only a healthy blend of principles of the left and the right, both of progress and of values, offers any hope of reason, civility and truth.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Jan. 11, 2017 7:22 a.m.

    Hey Joe Capitalist -

    "But many of us certainly won't miss his far-left politics, his rigid ideology, or his many prevarications."

    Everything you said in that quote is false.

    As an adherent of fake news and fake history written by real fakes, you are simply passing on untruths.

    Obama is not "far left." And he is much more pragmatic than he is ideological.

    As far as "prevarications" go, Donald Trump routinely broadcasts more blatant falsehood every day than Obama has in eight years.

    Do you know why "Conservative" propagandists lie so much?

    It's because the facts almost NEVER support their preferred beliefs.

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 4:21 p.m.

    Washington's "Warnings of a Parting Friend" were, to a fairly large degree, warnings against partisan politics. He walked the talk, being our only president elected without party affiliation. He warned us against the dangers of dividing into party lines. We left his words behind, as quickly as they were uttered. Yes, it would be most interesting if any politician patterned a speech -- any speech -- after Washington's famous address.

  • Nana.P Alpine, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 3:06 p.m.

    Well said Boyd Matheson!

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 12:08 p.m.

    To "Lew Elton Jeppson" yes, biased just like you. Had he said that Obama will tell us about his accomplishments and how he overcame Republicans, you wouldn't have any issue with it.

    To "Hutterite" yes, we miss George Washington's demeanor. However, we will settle for the self promotion that Obama will give us since that is all there is.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 8:45 a.m.

    Obama self-promoting? That's rich.

    The only question remaining about Trump's inauguration is whether he'll emerge from a giant smoke machine or whether he'll be introduced as though it's the start of a Bulls-Knicks game.

    "And now! From New York City! The man who has sacrificed EVERYTHING to serve you, the American people! ..."

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:48 a.m.

    A conservative who wants Obama to exude values, which he has done for his entire term, but who then supports the next President who has spurned the values demanded of from Obama. And the Sutherland crowd is just fine with that double standard.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Jan. 10, 2017 7:03 a.m.

    A soon to be president who tweets?

    Kind of like a LION who sqeeks like a mouse.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 5:46 p.m.

    @Hutterite "We're sure going to miss his thoughtful consideration, civil demeanour and rich eloquence."

    It's like we've been missing it already.

  • forward thinker Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 2:17 p.m.

    Calls for straight answers, and press conferences, from those who stumped for HRC, seem pretty hollow.

    But I will take some of Obama's advice. He told us to move along, nothing to see here, so I won't be watching his farewell address.

    I can't wait to see MoTab singing at the inauguration. I have been looking forward to a new president for many years, even if it isn't my favorite guy.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 2:04 p.m.

    Lew Jeppson: "Are Trump's remarks careless or calculated? I'm not sure."

    You may not be sure, but clearly you are concerned about it. The question is were you equally concerned about whether Hillary Clinton's disregard to securing our nation's secrets were just 'careless or calculated'? Were you really upset when you were lied to about the reasons behind the Benghazi attack, or did you just shrug and move on? When you found out from Gruber, that Obama lied to you about his health care law, did it raise some big red flags for you?

    The selective outrage and concern over everything Trump these days by the far-left when they could not care less when all kinds of misdeeds were done by Hillary or Obama, just shows how hypocritical they can be.

  • Lew Elton Jeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:58 p.m.

    "At a time when national unity is desperately needed, ..."

    What will unity accomplish? Mr Matheson implies both sides are equally at fault (though he probably thinks Trump people are considerably more right than Obama people), so we meet somewhere in the middle and all's well.

    But Trump is a strange, even dangerous, guy. He won't give straight answers - he won't even hold a press conference where in can be cross-examined. And he continues his line of insults, e.g. Senator Schumer is "head clown."

    What we need is this: not unity but a strategy to deal with a nuclear incident created by Trump's careless remarks.

    Are Trump's remarks careless or calculated? I'm not sure.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:55 p.m.

    Hutterite: "We're sure going to miss his thoughtful consideration, civil demeanour and rich eloquence."

    But many of us certainly won't miss his far-left politics, his rigid ideology, or his many prevarications.

    The jury is still out on whether a Trump administration will be any better, but like everyone else who voted for him, I am hopeful that things will improve if we can get off the current disastrous path.

    ...and yes, I know full well that a whole bunch of people who regularly comment on this forum think differently; but the reality is that your side LOST in the election, so we get to try something different now.

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:52 p.m.

    @ George of the jungle

    Why do you expect others to do what you yourself havent done? Let's look at things objectively. Did you learn from the disastrous bush regime?

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Jan. 9, 2017 12:40 p.m.

    If Obama were truthful, his speech would contain these words: "Never has anyone been given no much of other people's money and so little done with it as I did"!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 11:23 a.m.

    We're sure going to miss his thoughtful consideration, civil demeanour and rich eloquence.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 9:31 a.m.

    "Washington spoke little of what he had done as president, other than to ask forgiveness for any wrongs his administration might have committed. He was humble enough to know the success of the nation was due to good people and divine providence and acknowledged the mistakes and failures that were his."

    "However, for many presidents the farewell address has been more of a self-indulgent review of their time in office with spotlights on their successes, a whitewash of their failures and an attempt to declare their own legacy."

    Any bets on which approach Obama will take? My money is on the second one!

  • forward thinker Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:48 a.m.

    "His final address would be the perfect time to shed the supercool, aloof persona and authentically look the American people in the eye and share something of his soul."

    Why should Obama try to like he has changed his spots? It is a funny sentence to use the word 'authentically' to suggest be anything but authentic.

    Even if he did do that, his worshippers would wonder who he was, and the rest of us wouldn't be watching.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 8:19 a.m.

    Sounds as if Mr. Matheson should become POTUS as he has his own fairwell speech planned out.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 7:14 a.m.

    Yeah- I'm sure President Obama will look to the Sutherland Institute on advice on a speech urging unity for our country. For 8 years, the Sutherland Institute did nothing but deride and oppose any idea or program put forth by the Obama Administration. President Obama will give his farewell address with the same class, dignity and honor as he conducted himself over 2 terms. Then Trump will take over and turn the White House into a disrespectful circus.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 6:01 a.m.

    I think he should!d give the credits to all those ho supported him, and name names and how they helped. So what did we learn? I hope we don't do that again.

  • Lew Elton Jeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2017 5:57 a.m.

    "On Friday, Obama issued a cover letter to the American people sadly signaling that his farewell address will likely be more self-centered and self-promoting than instructive and forward-moving."

    Biased? This fairly drips with Sutherland (and Deseret News) style Obama disdain. i guess one must be an economic historian like myself to appreciate how much we owe President Obama in keeping us from another Great Depression.

    And if Obama wants to defend his record he has every right. In rescuing us from Great Depression II he was fought every step of the way by conservative outfits like Sutherland.