TIME WILL TELL!!I wish her and her family peace and comfort.
I love this interview and Katherine! She's so genuine and keeps it real. I
love Utah too and recently moved back there, to my roots. I look forward to any
and all movies/shows that Katherine stars in.
I don't know what church "Church member" belongs to, but anyone who
believes they can "move on" from the Church into something more true is
deceiving themselves. The Gospel already encompasses all truth from all sources;
anything outside it only pulls someone further away from truth. The Church
itself is true and evidence for that is overwhelming to anyone that takes time
to look for it. Leaving does not take courage at all. On the contrary: it's
an act of cowardice. As for Katherine Heigl, great on her for
sticking with the Church's moral values to some extent, but without any
real faith it doesn't mean much. The deeply corrupt cultural influence of
Hollywood is probably what drove her away. You can hardly live the Gospel in its
fullness in an environment where the Word of Wisdom is virtually impossible to
follow and immorality is part of the job. It sounds like there's some sort
of testimony buried in there somewhere, but she needs to break away from the
prison in which she has locked herself before it can blossom back into what it
Panamadesnews:"not currently being actively involved in
something doesn't mean you do not believe it is true." Sure it
does. If somebody really believed all that LDS stuff, they could not help but
follow it. By their acts, most Americans show that they are atheists, including
most people raised LDS.
@Daniel Ben"I would say it takes considerably more courage and
strength to stay in the church than it does to leave. "It
depends on circumstances and reason for leaving. Like if someone's leaving
due to sincere lack of belief then it's better to leave. There's no
courage and strength in staying via lying. If someone's leaving because
even though they believe the church is actually true they just don't want
to pay tithing then I'd agree it takes more courage and strength to stay.
@ UT Brit"The reason I came on this article is to dispel the
myth of claims I have read here and often in the church, that you can only be
"truly" happy when an active member of the church."Well
for some people that might be literally the truth though. Each person derives
happiness from different things.I understand your point though.I think a more correct phrase would be that your probability of
happiness increases as you follow the principles found in the Gospel of Jesus
Christ as taught by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.Another way you can interpret it though is your most likely to be active if
you are following the teachings of Jesus Christ in your life and therefore more
likely to be happy.At the same time Happiness is not guaranteed at
all times. Happiness is a choice to be made. Sometimes it is a lot harder to
make than others.
Katharine is a strong example to young people who are starting to realize that
religion (any brand) is not for them. When this happens, it is usually because
they see bad examples and it is a really wonderful thing that they don't
throw aside all of the good with the bad. This is akin to leaving any
relationship in that some will only remember the experience as bad and some will
smile and remember that there was also a lot that was good..
@kiwi111"These people who leave the church just can't seem
to leave the church alone!"I have given years of my life to the
church and thousands of dollars. If you think people who leave the church can
just swat out there entire past with a wave of their arm, you are mistaken. I
have friends and my entire family are still in the church, hence church is still
a part of my life.The reason I came on this article is to dispel the
myth of claims I have read here and often in the church, that you can only be
"truly" happy when an active member of the church.
@curbeeYou wrote "I think a lot of people follow these Deseret
news posts just so they can say something bad about the LDS church. What a
negative activity.. Maybe they should find a more useful way to spend their
time....time is limited after." And on the flip side, many also
follow the DesNews and posts comments to find fault and critique those who
don't believe in the church to varying degrees. Just read how many people
are trying to sell Heigl on her shortcomings (or as they suppose). She
doesn't need your advice ya'll. And from what I read, you are going to
steer her further away from church activity. Chill please.
I totally agree with you, Curbee. I never thought I would ever use the
following cliche, but the more I think about it, the more I come to the
conclusion that it is actually the best way to describe these people who pop up
at any opportunity to twist a normal, positive and informative article, to fit
their often misplaced and mis-/ill-informed agenda. The cliche? These people who
leave the church just can't seem to leave the church alone! Get a life
I think a lot of people follow these Deseret news posts just so they can say
something bad about the LDS church. What a negative activity.. Maybe they
should find a more useful way to spend their time....time is limited after all.
It's not about a 'true Church", it's about Jesus and the
relationship you have with Him. If you have received Him and are born again, you
are His child, this is the time one becomes a Child of His. I was LDS but
clearly God showed me that it wasn't for me any longer and made my choice
to be a follower of Him, not through the LDS church. I've never been
happier. I praise and worship Him in such a different way. It's all about
whether you "truly know Him or not". God bless.
Oh Sister, please find your way home! The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the
greatest blessing that we can have. Eternal Families are one of the greatest
teachings that we have in the LDS Church today. I am one of 10 children, with
only 4 of us left. Through our Mother and other great ancestors, we have the
blessings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in our lifes, and someday, when the time
is right we have been taught, and we will each testify, that we will be together
again as a family. Our mother set the exmples for us, and she is waiting to
take us in her arms. May the Lord Bless you and yours.
Red CorvetteYes, and not currently being actively involved in
something doesn't mean you do not believe it is true.
so if she appreciates the values then why doesn't she live them ? there are
other Latter-day Saint celebs whom DO NOT live the standards and only claim the
gospel when it suits them to look good.
Katherine is a beautiful, talented person. And she is right; Utah is a beautiful
place with wonderful people. There are only a handful of you left who cannot
accept non-Mormons, or anyone who has dared to leave your church (I see a few of
you have left a comment here. Tsk, tsk, your intolerance is showing). I am happy
to say that the rest of the population of Utah, including most of the Mormon
population, are very open and accepting of everyone who calls Utah home. Welcome
home, Katherine. We are happy to have you here!
It seems like she IS living the faith she was brought up in, to a degree. Now
she needs to build on that.
Maybe living in Utah she will come back to church. Could you imagine her
showing up at that ward? Whew! That'd be entertaining to see.
@UT BrittGood for you in finding peace, if indeed you have. There
are many here in this forum caught up in trying to define what acts correspond
to a courageous person. Unfortunately, for the sake of intelligent conversation,
they do so without relative context. And furthermore, based on spiritual
matters, one should never speak or judge concerning another's courage or
lack thereof. As for courage? To me, it seems that you have
exercised courage. At least I have no reason to believe otherwise. I don't
know what you feel inside but I will take you on your word. Your comments come
from the heart and I respect that. Other comments seeking to expose a flaw in
you are full of flaw themselves. Those comments can't come from the heart
and are full of insecurity. If it's true you have found your burdens lifted
then don't fret with these comments from people regurgitating jargon for
doctrine. Again, they are trying to expose your folly but they are ONLY exposing
Too many here seem to feel inclined to make comments solely obsessed with what
'church member' wrote. Where's the insight? As a byproduct of the
insecurity some are having with 'Church members' comments, more of you
are refuting things that are somewhat non existent and it's going nowhere
except for judging Heigl in the process.If you find it important to
defend your perception of a perfect church universe, then you might not want to
come off as petty to those reading these comments and perhaps Katherine herself.
Compliments work better. But if one sees a need to speak hard truth, then having
a sincere approach that is free from defensive motivations and incentives on
winning arguments is more likely to get through.If I was looking at
these comments as a person interested in the church, I would think these people
sound crazy. Do we really need this trivial analysis? I mean we just read an
article about a young women who has apparently found happiness with her family
in Deer Valley and she expressed that the church was a help to her family.
maclouieWhat don't I get exactly? I was responding to cats
assertion that happiness is only found in the church. If she wanted to talk
about eternal happiness I assume she would have stated that. jasonlivyI have read my scriptures, said my prayers, served at the
temple, served in my calling on the bishopric and feel far more peace and calm
now than before. I feel a burden has been lifted from me and feel a huge sense
of liberation.Why do I feel better about myself and my family than when I
was living my life in the church before?
UT Brit:You don't get it. Christ never said it would be easy or
cause us to be happy all the time in this life. His Atonement was to pay for all
sin and all misery that all of us experience in mortality. His promise is that
if we follow him, exercise faith, and do those things he specified, then it
would lead all to Eternal Happiness, which is what I think @Cats actually meant.
Knowing the truth and following the True Teacher will bless everyone's life
somehow, but it does not guarantee perfect health, mentally or physically, nor
the elimination of problems and challenges.Making covenants,
following the commandments, and receiving the saving ordinances from those who
are authorized to administer them will lead the Eternal Happiness and you are
not in a position nor have authority to say it wont.
UT Brit:I've been a member of the LDS church all my life and
I've come to these conclusions. One, we are accountable for our actions.
Two, there is no magic formula for bliss and tranquility.What the
gospel gives is peace, as we adhere to it's teachings. If we choose to stop
praying and feasting on the scriptures (not easy to do on a daily basis), we
will lose the spirit and become subject to our own vices. It's these vices
that bring us down and 'wickedness never was happiness'.We
have not be promised, as members of the Church, that we will live in a blissful
utopia. We are subject to pain and suffering along with everyone else. All
we've been promised is that we will have peace in times of struggle, the we
can receive the comforting assurance that God is there and He is aware of our
suffering. And if we 'press forward, feasting upon the word of God, and
endure to the end, we shall obtain Eternal Life'. Nowhere in the doctrines
of the church or in scripture does it say that we are immune from depression,
anxiety, or worse.
I admired Katherine as an actress long before I knew she was LDS and have to
admit, when I found that she was a member of the Church, I was pleasantly
surprised, but then felt a let-down when I discovered she was not active in the
Church. I felt the same hearing Ryan Gosling was raised Mormon but
no longer practicing the faith. There seems to be something about Hollywood and
religion that few actors find compatible. I think it's a sad commentary on
the film industry, since many who are active in any faith find it hard to find
parts that do not violate their moral standards.Being a guy, there
was one other thing in Katherine's interview that troubled me. She referred
to everything as being "My" ranch, dog, horses, etc. I felt the
embarrassment it might be for her husband that she was not saying "Our"
ranch, etc. instead. Even if her money is what made it possible, if I were the
husband, I would feel left out and diminished, hearing that.
I could relate to her. I was raised in the LDS Church as well. Like her, I am no
longer a practicing member, but feel like I have a lot of good qualities that
were a result of the way I was raised. I lead a pretty conservative and very
family oriented lifestyle. I love Utah and my neighbors and community.Too often I think people leave and seem bent on putting the LDS church and
those who believe it down. Ultimately I decided I did not believe it, or any
organized religion for that matter, but I try not to attack others for what they
believe. Other than some differences of opinion when it comes to politics, I
have no issue with the church or it's members.It really is too
bad that we can't see past each others differences to what we have in
common. This world is missing mutual respect that we should afford one another.
Happy Liberal,Why do you think other women should do the same? It
sounds like you need validation. An honest decision shouldn't need
validation by others. On the other hand, Heigl seems confident in doing what is
right for her and her family.
Daniel BenDeciding to leave the church is one of the hardest things
I have done. I could sit in church each week and carry on like everything is
normal but I would be lying to myself.I am potentially losing my family
and friends because of my decision, please don't patronise me by saying its
harder to stay in the church, in my situation its completely false
GOOD comments here.Above all (although I'm not an official
spokesperson for the church) - we (Christian LDS worshippers) need to strive to
make EVERYONE feel welcome at any/all of our gatherings.Lets be
inclusive - NEVER exclusive!
The silly debate over which is more "courageous" -- staying in the LDS
Church or leaving it -- is meaningless without context. Every person's
situation is different. If you're a pioneer asked to uproot your family and
follow a supposed prophet to parts unknown in the West, it's probably fair
to say that doing so took tremendous courage.If you're a
successful actress who's been raised LDS and has generally positive
feelings about the faith, does it take more "courage" to leave or stay?
I have no idea. Neither do you. Depends on her family relationships, her circle
of friends, and most importantly, how she actually feels about the doctrine.
Does she believe it's literally all true? Then staying or returning would
require courage. Does she regard it as helpful and appealing but doesn't
actually buy it? Then staying or returning would be lying to herself. Which is
true? None of us have any idea.I'm a lifelong member who
figured out it's all make-believe a few years ago. Leaving would destroy my
family, but would allow me to be honest with everyone. Which road requires
courage? Tough question.
Many years ago Katherine talked about this in a video interview. She said that
the church had given her much joy and "fun" as a teen. I remember
distinctly she said, "I had so much fun as a Mormon teenager," saying
the Church gives the youth many opportunities to be together doing worthwhile
and wholesome activities. She then said, she was no longer a practicing Mormon
because she was just too "lazy." Lazy was the word she used.
Church member and happy liberal are right. Thanks.
@greatbam22I agree with you but I think that whether in the Church
or outside of the Church people are going to focus on perfection. There are many
personalities within the Church and just because a small group of people within
the Church focus on perfection doesn't mean the rest of them are like that.
Hat's off to Kathrine. Her class & intelligence is amazing.
I like how she always keeps it together and her success isn't driven by
negative publicity. Her talent as an actress is the root of her success. Whether
you're a religious person or not, her view on family life is definitely a
great one in my book.
Appreciating something doesn't mean you believe it is true.
"Judge not, lest ye be judged." I don't pretend to know what is in
her heart, and neither do any who have commented. Decisions made at one point in
life are often reversed later in life.
Interesting how people can read the very same words and get totally different
meanings from it. I personally read that Heigl very much appreciates the
Mormon Church and what it has taught her, the strength it gave her and her
family. I see no animosity spoken about it. Interesting how others
read it differently, perhaps projecting their own feelings onto someone else,
which says more about them, than those to whom they apply their own feelings.
@ UT Brit"I know many, many people outside the church that lead
good, happy lives. I know many people in the church that are unhappy and
depressed."I would agree with you on this as well.I
have debated this idea in my head myself because I have dealt with my own share
of depression and anxiety.I think a sentiment that I think is shared
whether consciously or unconsciously between members sometimes is that if you
are are doing everything the church tells you to do then you will be happy which
isn't accurate.Although I believe the things the Church teaches
are true I think some people in the Church focus a little too much on perfection
and comparing themselves to others. I think that is one of the big issues that
the Church and the world in general deals with.I would elaborate in
more detail but I am constantly staring at the word count allowance and
can't seem to fit my thoughts into the box that I am allowed.
Being inactive and leaving the Church are two different things. Some of the
correspondents seem not to recognize that. I have a hunch these respondents
have never had any Church positions of substance(Relief Society, Priesthood), of
they would know the difference. I can only hope that Ms. Heigl will revisit
this issue as she lives her life. Best wishes to her.
@Cats"and know they are the true and only way to find
happiness"It isnt though, I know many, many people outside the
church that lead good, happy lives. I know many people in the church that are
unhappy and depressed.The church does not have exclusive rights on
the happiness tag. Also please dont start on about "true" happiness, you
will be able to hear my eyes rolling in the States.
CM: Do you not see the irony in your comment? You applaud Heigl for "MOVING
ON" from her LDS upbringing yet she has moved her family to Utah to join a
community that embraces the core values of her youth. Those values were gained
through her parent's conversion to the Church and her involvement in Church
activities. I have met several struggling actors that experienced the same
dilemma -- it is difficult to live in the world while living of the world.
Unfortunately, these standards are not meant to be easy to live. This scenario
is repeated in many Utah homes that want to raise their family in an LDS culture
without a commitment to active Church attendance. They simply want the Church on
their terms, not the Lords. We all need to continually remind ourselves of the
purpose in the Lord reestablishing the Church upon the earth and whether we are
willing to serve Him in preparing for His second coming. The expression, God
will force no man to Heaven, comes to mind.
I am happy that her and her family found some happiness by following LDS
principles and sharing that knowledge with others. I know that as
people follow the principles of the gospel that they can have the Holy Spirit
them and that they will be happier as a result.
I see that she still believes the church is true, and comments about its solid
Dear Church Member:I have read two interviews of Katherine in which
she stated that she wanted to get back into the church. I hope she eventually
makes it. She has NEVER stated that the church isn't true. I think deep
down she knows it is and she wants those blessings in her life. I
know that the Church is true. I know this for two reasons. One is that I have
applied the principles in my own life and know they are the true and only way to
find happiness. The most important reason I know it is true is because of
personal revelation from God. I am accountable for knowing it and saying it and
you are accountable for reading it.
It makes me happy to hear that even though Katherine Heigl has chosen to move on
from the Mormon faith, she can remain positive about the church's influence
in her life and the lives of her family members. It is nice to hear stories of
people who decide that the LDS faith is not true for them, continue to live
good, clean lives, and yet refrain from only seeing what they think are negative
aspects of their prior faith. Bravo to her for having the courage to remain
positive about a religion even though she is not a practicing member anymore.
Church member, How come you haven't? Also can you tell us which one is
It doesn't appear that she has completely moved on. By following teachings
of her childhood faith, her life has been blessed.And it is True!
@Church Member - Katherine doesn't say that she "left" but if it
makes you happy to think that then go right ahead. She also never says she
figured out it's "not true" as you claim, she's just not
actively practicing the Mormon faith (an many times has said she plans to return
to full activity). If anything she gives credit to the LDS Church for pulling
her family together and instilling in her some very sound beliefs. You are
right in saying that you can live a "good, honest and moral life" if you
aren't Mormon. How you live is a choice whether you are Mormon, Catholic,
Baptist, Atheist, etc. Bravo on her for having the strength to admit how
influential the Mormon Faith has been on her life, especially doing it in an
interview that will reach the whole world and also considering the profession
she is in.
Church Member, you make it sound so "honorable" that Ms. Heigl left the
church. That only thing that is "not true" are your comments. I actually
think Ms. Heigl will come back to the church one day when her children are
older..and yes, as a matter of fact I do speak from experience. Twenty years of
being inactive and experiencing the "world" left me empty, hollow, and
in pain. The only truth I could ever come to was that I was a daughter of God
and should start living my life that way. The more I study Christ, the more
clarity I get about why I am here, where I came from and where I'm going.
By the way, why are you still in Utah if you have such disdain for the Church?
You know what they say...if you can't take the heat, get out of the frying
pan! Yes, i do agree that many people live moral, honest and good lives that
are not LDS...but I also believe that if they knew the truth their earthly lives
would be so much richer.
I would say it takes considerably more courage and strength to stay in the
church than it does to leave. Regardless, good for her for holding on to some
of those beliefs and values.
Church Member, too bad she didn't have the courage and strength to stay.
Just a matter of perspective.
Heigle says she still has some Mormon in her. I hardly call that leaving the
Mormon church so stop saying that. She even says it helped her parents. I hardly
call that putting the church down either. Stop exaggerating the situation.
@ Church MemberI didn't read anything in the article that said
she moved on because the LDS church was not true. It said she was not practicing
but still had a lot of mormon in her. Better luck next time.
It makes me happy to hear that Katherine Heigl has moved on from her Mormon
beliefs. It is nice to hear stories of people who figure out it is not true but
can still live a good, honest, and moral lives! Bravo to her for having the
courage and strength to leave.