Published: Thursday, Sept. 4 2014 4:20 a.m. MDT
While I do sympathize with fast food worker's plight, their demands of
$15.00/hr are not sustainable. Fast food jobs were never meant to be lifelong
careers. Exceptions being store managers and franchise owners. FF jobs have
always been introductory type jobs into the work force to give young men and
women a chance to earn money, learn how to work and be responsible. What used to
be the most productive and educated workforce in the world has dwindled and
succumbed to overseas competition, corporate greed and nurse maid policies
conceived by inept government administrations.
If I were manager of these restraunts my help wanted signs would be going up
today with a warning to any protestor- don't show up its not excused and
you will be terminated. Before people say how mean I was taught by my small
business grandfather that you work an honest days labor for an honest days wage.
Everyone remembers the wage part but often forgets the value of the labor
portion of that saying. It is menial labor for a reason people you are not meant
to make a career out of it. 6 types of people should be working these jobs1.People just entering the workforce2.People just getting back on their
feet from a major life altering situation(i.e. death, divorce etc)3.People
working their way through school4.People needing supplamental income not
primary5.People who have retired and want to continue to work and have
secondary income6.People going for upper management who will make a career
of it but know they are working up from the bottom.When minimum wage
increases any gain is eaten up in inflation and devalues the everyone elses
I dropped out of High School. I got facial piercings and or tatoos. I have
poor social skills. I don't want to go back to school and get an education.
But you should pay me $15/hr because it's not my fault.
A workers wage that garners twice or more than what they are getting paid now
will create a fallout that will be worse than anyone might imagine. Both Europe
and the Far East have maximized efficiency and profits by eliminating the
workforce entirely by automating fast food – with great success. A machine
can produce an order perfectly every time. It doesn’t complain about
working conditions or get vindictive against “uncooperative”
customers. It requires neither health, medical or other retirement benefits and
doesn’t care if it has stock options. And while automating
food service may initially be expensive, the savings realized by laying off
thousands of over/underpaid mostly uneducated workers that think they deserve a
wage most college graduates don’t earn will WAY more than offset start-up
costs. Granted, automation lacks the “human touch” but
if a business has to choose between profits and people it won’t be hard to
figure out which goes first. Also, the attitude of “If I can’t get
what I want, then I just won’t show up.” will doubtfully go well
with employers. Be careful what you ask for. You might just get it.
In late 2011 Pew did a survey about socialism vs capitalism. Forty-nine percent
of people in the 18-29 age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism;
only 43 percent say they have a negative view.Hence, the Occupy Movement
and the $15/hour push.They were never taught history and don't
understand the dangers.My guess is that experience will be a demanding
Hopefully people will realize that they don't need Fast Food unless it is
"natures fast food" like apples, bananas, etc.The
entitlement mentality is going to ruin our country.How many of these
$15 an hour wannabe's would have defended the Alamo to the death?
Babe Ruth was once asked by a reporter why he deserved to be paid more than the
President of the US? The Babe said, "Because I had a better year than he
did." How preposterous it is for Obama or any other jealous socialist to
pontificate on what a CEO, professional athlete or fast food worker should be
paid when they are not the ones who pay them! They have no idea the value a
particular person brings to an organization. That's something for the
owners of the company to decide, the only people who have their "skin in the
game". If Karl Marx had been right, every third world nation full of workers
would be prosperous, but they are not because they produce little or nothing
that anyone wants to pay for! In other words, liberals, you either produce
something consumers are willing to pay for or there are no jobs, no paychecks,
no taxpayers and yes, eventually no food stamps, period! It matters not what
business you are in, consumers pay your salary and fast food workers may soon
learn that consumers are unwilling to pay you for your overpriced products!
If you are working at a fast food place then you can not complain about the pay.
If you want more money then go get a different job!
The VERY BEST thing advocates for higher wages could do is to "hitch their
wagon" to comprehensive illegal immigration ENFORCEMENT.Illegal
alien trespassers are DIRECTLY responsible for low wages. DESPITE what amnesty
advocates tell you.As long as smarmy employers are allowed, with
impunity, to import low-wage workers - wages will REMAIN low.Its' not complicated.
Well, most fast food isn't good for you, anyway. One day off of it for the
public seems like a good thing to me. People who are demanding these outrageous
pay increases are in serious problem of not having pay at all.
Lets say they get the raise to $15/hour. Lets suppose that most employees are
not replaced with technology/automation. Very few people currently
working in fast food would continue to be there under these circumstances. At
$15/hr employers can go hire school teachers for summers and evenings. You can
replace a teenager with a college educated adult? Which employee would you
@Say no to bo"They were never taught history and don't understand
the dangers."Of what? Being Canada? Norway? Denmark? Sweden?
Australia?@Mountanman"They have no idea the value a
particular person brings to an organization. "You used Babe Ruth
as an example. Ruth was an employee, not the person writing paychecks. So do
only some employees know their value (obviously you don't think these fast
food workers do)?
@SchneeExhibit A. I rest my case.
Some comments today suggest that there are plenty of alternatives to working for
fast food establishments, but this is not true for most of these part-time
workers.Other comments suggest that these low-skill people have
brought their woes upon themselves. That may be true of all of us; everybody has
made some poor choices. Others lacked opportunites that we may take for
granted.I suggest an alternative to strikes and power plays to
demand higher pay. Instead, let the consumers decide: are we willing to pay a
few cents extra per burger for a company that meets the $15/hour minimum
wage?Let's start a viral trend, by asking the Fast Food manager
to accept an extra $1/meal as a gratuity for their part-time workers. If enough
folks did this, the FF chains would see that customers would accept higher
prices if they knew the workers were adequately paid.
The 49% that have a favorable view of socialism have never tried to appreciate
what it was like to live in the Soviet Union. Not surprising, most Americans of
the younger generation have no idea who Brezhnev was, will think you are
swearing in some tribal dialect when Khruschev is mentioned, might remember a
fact or two about Stalin, and may wonder what John Lennon is doing in the tomb
on Red Square when they hear the name Lenin. The first two had the ability to
wipe out the United States with a push of a button while the remaining two have
laid a physical and ideological foundation for the potential. This
forgetfulness leads to quite a bit of confusion of values.That said,
I am in favor of raising minimum wage in the fast food industry to $100/hour.
This will put it out of business which will have a side effect of lowering my
health insurance premiums.
It seems that logic is in short supply these days.Lets replace the
wage discussion with a classroom discussion... Because you come to
class....Does not mean you have earned an A.Because you want an A.... Does
not mean you have earned an A.Because your mommy wants you to get an A....
Does not mean you have earned an A.Because you took a test... Does not
mean you have earned an A.Because you turned in your homework... Does not
mean you have earned an AIf you want an A you need to do the things
that get you an A.Same applies to getting paid more.... Because you
have bills to pay is not a reason why an employer should pay you more money...
If you need to earn more, improve your skills so that you are worth more. There
are plenty of jobs that pay better than working for a fast food restaurant.
Just because someone wants something does not mean they are entitled to having
@Sasha Pachev"The 49% that have a favorable view of socialism have
never tried to appreciate what it was like to live in the Soviet Union. "Or they know the difference between living in the Soviet Union and
living in Canada... that's a pretty wide range of socailisms.
@Say No to BOYou "rested your case" because I assume you
don't want to argue how Sweden or Canada are distinctly inferior places to
live. I think you just want everyone to associate the word socialism with the
Soviet Union or China or North Korea (even though we had a different word for
those nations... communist).
Many people who work in factories operating machines or welding are currently
receiving $15/hr for their knowledge and skills. If you raise minimum wage to
$15 then these people will expect to be paid $22/hr. And everybody above minimum
will expect to receive at least a $7/hr raise.
I have a hard time believing that fast food workers do the kind of work that
merits 15 bucks an hour. The price of fast food will only go up if
this occurs, which could be a good thing... if I end up buying it less
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